movielover said:

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False premise.
This administration puts handcuffs on the Ukrainians because they are scared ****less of starting WW3.

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How so? Please give specific examples.

Ukraine / NATO / Biden have:

- spent at least 8 years preparing to go to war with Russia
- allowed or co-conspired to blow up Nordstream pipelines
- supplied and used uranium-depleted munitions
- blew up a local dam
- not authentically fulfilled the Minsk Accords
- halted a peace agreement with Russia
- supplied hundreds of Billions in funding
- emptied out the NATO and EU stockpiles of munitions and military equipment at a historic level unseen since WWII

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We purposely avoid giving Ukraine our best stuff -- especially our best "attack stuff" -- so that Putin is not further tempted to escalate the war.

Big C said:

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movielover said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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False premise.
This administration puts handcuffs on the Ukrainians because they are scared ****less of starting WW3.

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How so? Please give specific examples.

Ukraine / NATO / Biden have:

- spent at least 8 years preparing to go to war with Russia
- allowed or co-conspired to blow up Nordstream pipelines
- supplied and used uranium-depleted munitions
- blew up a local dam
- not authentically fulfilled the Minsk Accords
- halted a peace agreement with Russia
- supplied hundreds of Billions in funding
- emptied out the NATO and EU stockpiles of munitions and military equipment at a historic level unseen since WWII

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We purposely avoid giving Ukraine our best stuff -- especially our best "attack stuff" -- so that Putin is not further tempted to escalate the war.

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Ukraine is basically using our stuff from the 90s. That they can use even this to hold off Russia does not speak well of Russia's military capability.

Despite shills pretending that this war is going well for Putin and that Russia is somehow magically not suffering the domestic consequences of this huge debacle.

What they don't want to acknowledge yet - because it is completely counter to everything they've claimed for more than a year - is that the destruction of Ukraine's industrial and commercial infrastructure was very much an aim for Russia and one in which they've been quite successful.

Putin massively benefits from destroying both Kakhovka Dam and ZNPP in pursuit of his goal to damage Ukraine's economy as much as possible. In no way it benefits Ukraine which hosts these structures.

There is absolutely no doubt who would be responsible for anything that may or… https://t.co/gpzrJFxsru

— Dmitri (@wartranslated) July 4, 2023

Prigozhin of course pointed this out right before his coup and while he is a master of his own propaganda, there was very little reason to doubt this to be true.

From scholar and Ukraine/Russia expert Tim Snyder:

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3. Prigozhin told the truth about the war. This has to be treated as a kind of self-serving accident: Prigozhin is a flamboyant and skilled liar and propagandist. But his pose in the days before his march on Moscow made the truth helpful to him. He wanted to occupy this position in Russian public opinion: the man who fought loyally for Russia and won Russia's only meaningful victory in 2023, in the teeth of the incompetence of the regime and the senselessness of the war itself.

I'm not sure enough attention has been paid to what Prigozhin said about Putin's motives for war: that it had nothing to do with NATO enlargement or Ukrainian aggression, and was simply a matter of wishing to dominate Ukraine, replace its regime with a Moscow-friendly politician (Viktor Medvedchuk), and then seize its resources and to satisfy the Russian elite. Given the way the Russian political system actually works, that has the ring of plausibility. Putin's various rationales are dramatically inconsistent with the way the Russian political system actually works.

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Putin and Russia's weakness is manifesting in a number of ways.

The #CIA is reaching out to Russians fed up with Putin and the #UkraineRussiaWar. 40 year CIA vet (ret) @douglaslondon5 says it's a smart move and could yield results. "They largely do it for ideological reasons..patriotism...(people) who see their govt doing their country harm" pic.twitter.com/sQ4o3l6M0Z

— Michael Holmes (@holmescnn) July 3, 2023

There's obviously been a lot of hand-wringing (for the good guys) and premature celebration (for the bad guys) about the state of Ukraine's offensive but it's far too early to claim success or failure.

And another important nugget in the piece--UK still calculating that Russian production can only make up a small % of losses. Rus tank production is around 200 new units a year. This is a really important figure, as pre-war production was estimated about the same. pic.twitter.com/RVfNYsLMRv

— Phillips P. OBrien (@PhillipsPOBrien) July 4, 2023

Nice Radakin quote from the testimony that puts the counteroffensive in context which people talking about the Ukrainian counteroffensive being a failure might understand. “Ukraine has taken back more ground (in the last weeks) than Russia has taken in the last year”

— Phillips P. OBrien (@PhillipsPOBrien) July 4, 2023

Thomas Theiner, says UFA is still in the first of five phases.

which there are at least 5, and we're barely in the middle of Phase 1 - Attrition & Interdiction.

I wouldn't have to do this thread, if i.e. @derStandardat wouldn't confuse the Ukrainian Army's Assault brigades, with the National Guard's Offensive Guard brigades, but...
2/n

— Thomas C. Theiner (@noclador) July 4, 2023

And just a reminder of how incredibly deceitful and dishonest the shills are, for months now they've been pretending that Russia killed Budanov and Zaluzhny (and probably others who I don't recall), without any evidence and despite evidence to the contrary. Both remain alive despite Russia reporting that they've been killed multiple times each. I'm sure if you search this thread you will find the usual suspects making these sorts of false claims and they will never acknowledge that they were simply advancing the firehose of falsehoods spoonfed to them.

Even some of the biggest propagandists have been fed up with having to push these false narratives, although I guess the threat of defenestration will ultimately continue to keep most in line.

Head of @DI_Ukraine Kyrylo Budanov was asked:

"How did you survive your "death"?
"Fine"
"Why did they say it?"
"Can you even look for logic in that?"

📹: Suspilne pic.twitter.com/bZMDdNeUYq

— Anton Gerashchenko (@Gerashchenko_en) July 2, 2023

We cannot kill anyone, since Zaluzhny and Budanov are alive. We are so formidable only in the studio - Russian journalist Yusin believes that it is not worth trying to kill Polish President Duda pic.twitter.com/OvMkNMylL1

— TheKremlinYap (@TheKremlinYap) July 5, 2023

There isn't much left in NATO's armory that Ukraine hasn't gotten. the issue is that the US doesn't have what Ukraine really needs in sufficient quantities, and the quality isn't that good either. What Ukraine needs most are anti-air systems and standoff weapons, areas that have been marginally developed by the US in the past several decades, mostly because the US has successfully relied on its massive air force to dominate the battlefield in all its military campaigns since Vietnam. The Patriot is a high-priced lemon, and the ATACMS are likely to be shot down, and there aren't a lot of these to start with.

The Abrams tanks with better armor aren't of much use either, it would just take one or two extra hits to destroy them, they are very vulnerable without air cover, and are just as likely to be immobilized by land mines.

On the conduct of this war in general and the Ukrainian counteroffensive in particular, a French general who was the head of military intelligence recently came out with this sobering assessment:

Well, at least we helped even the score for all our boys in Vietnam that died at the hands of Soviet supplied weapons.


Instant Karma's gonna get you
Gonna knock you right on the head
You better get yourself together
Pretty soon you're gonna be dead
-John Lennon

U2S' firehose salvos are getting increasingly shrill and outlandish.

The people he follows claimed over a year ago that Russia would run out of ammo, missiles, guns, boots, anesthetics, pirozhkis and now tanks:

And another important nugget in the piece--UK still calculating that Russian production can only make up a small % of losses. Rus tank production is around 200 new units a year. This is a really important figure, as pre-war production was estimated about the same. pic.twitter.com/RVfNYsLMRv

— Phillips P. OBrien (@PhillipsPOBrien) July 4, 2023

Russia is now producing 1,800 tanks/year, mostly T-90s, and they are not even running at full capacity, although they are getting pretty close. This guy is of by a factor of 9...

The USSR used to churn out up to 4,000 tanks per year, they've kept a huge excess capacity in expectation of a possible conflict with NATO. Russia has held on to about half that production capacity, and now are putting those resources back on line. The same thing as with ammunition, they produce around 2.5 million shells per year.

Of course any talk of production volumes and inventory size by these sources misses the elephant in the room, the fact that NATO has depleted its own reserves and doesn't have much in terms of production capacities when it comes to the "basics" of this war of attrition... South Korea, Pakistan, Sudan have kept Ukraine from being completely depleted from ammo, but even those sources are finite.

How laughable for Putin to be stuck in a war of attrition when he was trying for Iraq War 1

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How laughable for Putin to be stuck in a war of attrition when he was trying for Iraq War 1

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He's wound up with World War I trench warfare.

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dajo9 said:

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How laughable for Putin to be stuck in a war of attrition when he was trying for Iraq War 1

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He's wound up with World War I trench warfare.

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A war for which they've prepared, consistent with their long-standing military doctrine, and which NATO did not anticipate. As well in WW1 the sides were fairly even, using the same volume of ammo, and no aerial strikes -not the case here.

The only reason the Blitz attack on Kiev failed to meet its goal, which was to force the Zelensky government into a "Minsk Plus" type of political settlement, is because NATO actively scuttled it.

So the war of attrition went on, Ukraine losing 350,000 men to date, with about 25,000 lost only in the last 31 days, and Ukraine is going to be forced to accept terms much worse that what they got in Istanbul while the war had only started.

Eventually, even you guys will get it.

But since Ukrainians look the same as Russians, I see a future of suicide bombings in Moscow after Putin "wins."

Or Ukranians hunt down their PM for needlessly destroying their country.

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But since Ukrainians look the same as Russians, I see a future of suicide bombings in Moscow after Putin "wins."

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I would refer you to the Chechnian war, which was more intense than the current one, with very bloody terror events including suicide bombings during the war. It was very rough but ended well for both sides.

Bombings in Moscow propelled Putin into power. FSB agents were arrested planting bombs - until they weren't.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Russian_apartment_bombings#:~:text=The%20Russian%20apartment%20bombings%20were,of%20fear%20across%20the%20country.

Lots of Putin propaganda incoming below.

NATO = US approved.

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NATO = US approved.

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The Gladio false flag terror attacks in Europe in the 1970s had been set up by NATO supreme commander Gen. Lemnitzer, who was the Joint Chjief of Staff in the early 1960s. He was the proponent of Operation Northwoods, a series of false flag atttacks that would be blamed on Cuba and would justify the invasion of that island.

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Operation Northwoods was a proposed false flag operation that originated within the US Department of Defense of the United States government in 1962. The proposals called for CIA operatives to both stage and commit acts of terrorism against American military and civilian targets, blaming them on the Cuban government, and using it to justify a war against Cuba. The possibilities detailed in the document included the remote control of civilian aircraft which would be secretly repainted as US Air Force plane, a fabricated 'shoot down' of a US Air Force fighter aircraft off the coast of Cuba, the possible assassination of Cuban immigrants, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, blowing up a U.S. ship, and orchestrating terrorism in U.S. cities. The proposals were rejected by President John F. Kennedy.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

60 years later, the same type of planning is being made for the Zaporozhia nuclear plant...

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sycasey said:

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How laughable for Putin to be stuck in a war of attrition when he was trying for Iraq War 1

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He's wound up with World War I trench warfare.

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A war for which they've prepared, consistent with their long-standing military doctrine, and which NATO did not anticipate. As well in WW1 the sides were fairly even, using the same volume of ammo, and no aerial strikes -not the case here.

The only reason the Blitz attack on Kiev failed to meet its goal, which was to force the Zelensky government into a "Minsk Plus" type of political settlement, is because NATO actively scuttled it.

So the war of attrition went on, Ukraine losing 350,000 men to date, with about 25,000 lost only in the last 31 days, and Ukraine is going to be forced to accept terms much worse that what they got in Istanbul while the war had only started.

Eventually, even you guys will get it.

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Maybe Russia will win. But let's not pretend that this is how they wanted it to go.

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Bombings in Moscow propelled Putin into power. FSB agents were arrested planting bombs - until they weren't.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Russian_apartment_bombings#:~:text=The%20Russian%20apartment%20bombings%20were,of%20fear%20across%20the%20country.

Lots of Putin propaganda incoming below.

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I wouldn't necessary exclude the possibility of a false flag terror attack in the Moscow apartment bombings, I haven't looked enough into it. However there was a series of other terror events in Russia in the decade after that, almost all of which couldn't be characterized as false flags:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Russia#More_recent_attacks

NATO in the late 70s and early 80s conducted a large number of false flag terror attacks, notably in Italy and Belgium, which culminated in the Bologna train station bombing, which killed 85 people. This was known as Operation Gladio.

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You have never met a conspiracy theory you didn't like.

Also, you seem to disseminate a lot of Russian disinformation.

I knew a guy like you once who knew the "real" story behind everything from JFK's assassination to the Clinton body count conspiracy. He had a lot of really legitimate-sounding facts to back it up. Plus, he worked as a spook for many years as well overseas for the CIA, DIA, and others. He was also ethnic Russian. Really interesting guy but most of what he believed was utter bull. I think you would get along with him.

Meanwhile, the rest of us in the real world know that NATO did not engage in false flag bombings in Europe.

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Cal88 said:

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dajo9 said:

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Bombings in Moscow propelled Putin into power. FSB agents were arrested planting bombs - until they weren't.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Russian_apartment_bombings#:~:text=The%20Russian%20apartment%20bombings%20were,of%20fear%20across%20the%20country.

Lots of Putin propaganda incoming below.

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I wouldn't necessary exclude the possibility of a false flag terror attack in the Moscow apartment bombings, I haven't looked enough into it. However there was a series of other terror events in Russia in the decade after that, almost all of which couldn't be characterized as false flags:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Russia#More_recent_attacks

NATO in the late 70s and early 80s conducted a large number of false flag terror attacks, notably in Italy and Belgium, which culminated in the Bologna train station bombing, which killed 85 people. This was known as Operation Gladio.

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You have never met a conspiracy theory you didn't like.

Also, you seem to disseminate a lot of Russian disinformation.

I knew a guy like you once who knew the "real" story behind everything from JFK's assassination to the Clinton body count conspiracy. He had a lot of really legitimate-sounding facts to back it up. Plus, he worked as a spook for many years as well overseas for the CIA, DIA, and others. He was also ethnic Russian. Really interesting guy but most of what he believed was utter bull. I think you would get along with him.

Meanwhile, the rest of us in the real world know that NATO did not engage in false flag bombings in Europe.

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I have provided an irrefutable proof that at least one NATO supreme leader, Gen. Lemnitzer, actively advocated using false flag attacks on civilians in order to achieve political goals. His advocacy of Operation Northwoods, a false flag attack, is beyond dispute, it's declassified information. Lemnitzer was essential in setting up the Operation Gladio network across Europe, notably in Belgium and Italy, countries where NATO has had a large footprint.

The difference between you and me is that you are poorly informed on this and other subjects, especially events that occurred outside of the US, and your overton window is a bit narrow.

If you would like to learn more about NATO's Operation Gladio in the 1970s-80s, I would recommend starting with this BBC documentary:



There are other documentaries and reports from official sources like RAI (national Italian network) that corroborate the findings above.

Cal88 said:

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dimitrig said:

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Cal88 said:

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dajo9 said:

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Bombings in Moscow propelled Putin into power. FSB agents were arrested planting bombs - until they weren't.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Russian_apartment_bombings#:~:text=The%20Russian%20apartment%20bombings%20were,of%20fear%20across%20the%20country.

Lots of Putin propaganda incoming below.

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I wouldn't necessary exclude the possibility of a false flag terror attack in the Moscow apartment bombings, I haven't looked enough into it. However there was a series of other terror events in Russia in the decade after that, almost all of which couldn't be characterized as false flags:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Russia#More_recent_attacks

NATO in the late 70s and early 80s conducted a large number of false flag terror attacks, notably in Italy and Belgium, which culminated in the Bologna train station bombing, which killed 85 people. This was known as Operation Gladio.

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You have never met a conspiracy theory you didn't like.

Also, you seem to disseminate a lot of Russian disinformation.

I knew a guy like you once who knew the "real" story behind everything from JFK's assassination to the Clinton body count conspiracy. He had a lot of really legitimate-sounding facts to back it up. Plus, he worked as a spook for many years as well overseas for the CIA, DIA, and others. He was also ethnic Russian. Really interesting guy but most of what he believed was utter bull. I think you would get along with him.

Meanwhile, the rest of us in the real world know that NATO did not engage in false flag bombings in Europe.

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I have provided an irrefutable proof that at least one NATO supreme leader, Gen. Lemnitzer, actively advocated using false flag attacks on civilians in order to achieve political goals. His advocacy of Operation Northwoods, a false flag attack, is beyond dispute, it's declassified information. Lemnitzer was essential in setting up the Operation Gladio network across Europe, notably in Belgium and Italy, countries where NATO has had a large footprint.

The difference between you and me is that you are poorly informed on this and other subjects, especially events that occurred outside of the US, and your overton window is a bit narrow.

If you would like to learn more about NATO's Operation Gladio in the 1970s-80s, I would recommend starting with this BBC documentary:



There are other documentaries and reports from official sources like RAI (national Italian network) that corroborate the findings above.

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General Lemnitzer was the NATO leader in the 1960s. That's pretty old history. We hadn't even been to the moon and Vietnam was still ramping up. A lot has happened since then. Do you have any false flag advocates in the last 40-50 years?

Here you go:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Nord_Stream_pipeline_sabotage

Prigozhin in St. Petersburg; home raided; wigs (trans?), $$$.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/06/europe/prigozhin-lukashenko-analysis-intl/index.html

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3 keys to Ukraine peace

"With the war in Ukraine hitting the 500-day mark today, three big things have to go right to achieve peace, Axios' Dave Lawler reports.

1. The diplomacy: Former senior U.S. officials have met with well-connected Russians, including Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, to try and set the stage for potential peace talks, NBC News reports.

Ukrainian officials told CIA Director Bill Burns on a secret visit last month to Kyiv that they believe if Ukrainian forces advance in the east and move within striking distance of Crimea in the south, Russia will negotiate in order to avoid defeat and keep control of the occupied peninsula, The Washington Post reports.

2. The counteroffensive: Ukraine has yet to bring many of its Western-armed-and-trained troops into the fight.

The British Ministry of Defense estimates Russia's force is so depleted that Moscow couldn't mount an offensive of its own.

What to watch: The White House is expected to provide cluster munitions to help Ukraine attack Russian entrenchments, despite concerns that dud bombs could endanger civilians.

3. The nuclear threat: Officials in Washington and Beijing are taking the prospect seriously.

Chinese President Xi Jinping warned Putin in March against using nuclear weapons, according to a report this week in the Financial Times.

The U.S., U.K. and France informed Putin they'd attack Russia with non-nuclear means if he used a tactical nuclear weapon."

https://www.axios.com/2023/07/07/ukraine-war-counteroffensive-russia-putin-nuclear

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If peace talks are happening, good.

"Ukrainian forces advance in the east and move within striking distance of Crimea in the south," - sounds like wishful thinking and an attempt to improve bargaining position.

Cluster munitions - flailing away?

Nuclear attack - Projecting? My understanding is that it is the United States that put the possibility of using limited nuclear weapons on the table, not Miscow. Source: Colonel Douglass McGregor.

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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Cal88 said:

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dimitrig said:

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Cal88 said:

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dajo9 said:

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Bombings in Moscow propelled Putin into power. FSB agents were arrested planting bombs - until they weren't.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Russian_apartment_bombings#:~:text=The%20Russian%20apartment%20bombings%20were,of%20fear%20across%20the%20country.

Lots of Putin propaganda incoming below.

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I wouldn't necessary exclude the possibility of a false flag terror attack in the Moscow apartment bombings, I haven't looked enough into it. However there was a series of other terror events in Russia in the decade after that, almost all of which couldn't be characterized as false flags:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Russia#More_recent_attacks

NATO in the late 70s and early 80s conducted a large number of false flag terror attacks, notably in Italy and Belgium, which culminated in the Bologna train station bombing, which killed 85 people. This was known as Operation Gladio.

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You have never met a conspiracy theory you didn't like.

Also, you seem to disseminate a lot of Russian disinformation.

I knew a guy like you once who knew the "real" story behind everything from JFK's assassination to the Clinton body count conspiracy. He had a lot of really legitimate-sounding facts to back it up. Plus, he worked as a spook for many years as well overseas for the CIA, DIA, and others. He was also ethnic Russian. Really interesting guy but most of what he believed was utter bull. I think you would get along with him.

Meanwhile, the rest of us in the real world know that NATO did not engage in false flag bombings in Europe.

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I have provided an irrefutable proof that at least one NATO supreme leader, Gen. Lemnitzer, actively advocated using false flag attacks on civilians in order to achieve political goals. His advocacy of Operation Northwoods, a false flag attack, is beyond dispute, it's declassified information. Lemnitzer was essential in setting up the Operation Gladio network across Europe, notably in Belgium and Italy, countries where NATO has had a large footprint.

The difference between you and me is that you are poorly informed on this and other subjects, especially events that occurred outside of the US, and your overton window is a bit narrow.

If you would like to learn more about NATO's Operation Gladio in the 1970s-80s, I would recommend starting with this BBC documentary:



There are other documentaries and reports from official sources like RAI (national Italian network) that corroborate the findings above.

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General Lemnitzer was the NATO leader in the 1960s. That's pretty old history. We hadn't even been to the moon and Vietnam was still ramping up. A lot has happened since then. Do you have any false flag advocates in the last 40-50 years?

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Don't let pesky things like facts get in the way of a narrative.

movielover said:

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bearister said:

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3 keys to Ukraine peace

"With the war in Ukraine hitting the 500-day mark today, three big things have to go right to achieve peace, Axios' Dave Lawler reports.

1. The diplomacy: Former senior U.S. officials have met with well-connected Russians, including Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, to try and set the stage for potential peace talks, NBC News reports.

Ukrainian officials told CIA Director Bill Burns on a secret visit last month to Kyiv that they believe if Ukrainian forces advance in the east and move within striking distance of Crimea in the south, Russia will negotiate in order to avoid defeat and keep control of the occupied peninsula, The Washington Post reports.

2. The counteroffensive: Ukraine has yet to bring many of its Western-armed-and-trained troops into the fight.

The British Ministry of Defense estimates Russia's force is so depleted that Moscow couldn't mount an offensive of its own.

What to watch: The White House is expected to provide cluster munitions to help Ukraine attack Russian entrenchments, despite concerns that dud bombs could endanger civilians.

3. The nuclear threat: Officials in Washington and Beijing are taking the prospect seriously.

Chinese President Xi Jinping warned Putin in March against using nuclear weapons, according to a report this week in the Financial Times.

The U.S., U.K. and France informed Putin they'd attack Russia with non-nuclear means if he used a tactical nuclear weapon."

https://www.axios.com/2023/07/07/ukraine-war-counteroffensive-russia-putin-nuclear

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If peace talks are happening, good.

"Ukrainian forces advance in the east and move within striking distance of Crimea in the south," - sounds like wishful thinking and an attempt to improve bargaining position.

Cluster munitions - flailing away?

Nuclear attack - Projecting? My understanding is that it is the United States that put the possibility of using limited nuclear weapons on the table, not Miscow. Source: Colonel Douglass McGregor.

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Well then it must be 1000% true and correct...

"However, one thing that sets this system apart from the usual cluster munitions is that they are capable of disabling these mines remotely, either actively, or by pre-programming the duration of these mines' lives."

In light of all the Russian troops that have been slaughtered in the Ukraine, whatya reckon the odds are of Putin authorizing the disabling feature after hostilities cease?

Cal88, I don't poo poo any analysis of the conflict. Do you have too many sources to list for the basis of your essay? As I said, the truth will reveal itself eventually.

If you are looking for sources that are better than Russian funded shills, there are plenty.

Mick Ryan, former aussie military, often provides good analysis. Here's a recent example about the current offensive.

2/ What is this operational system? To understand what it is, and how Ukraine is ‘taking down’ the Russian operational system, two foundational concepts are important to understand: the operational art; and, systems destruction warfare.

— Mick Ryan, AM (@WarintheFuture) July 6, 2023

Dmitri, Estonian who translated Russian and Ukrainian content into English, is a great "primary source" for content. His info isn't always right because it's often based on underlying social media content that can be incorrect but it's often a good barometer for sentiment. The second tweet below claims that Ukraine has re-taken Klescheevka near Bakhmut. Russian shills, with no basis, will claim this is fake news since that is the propaganda party line. I assume the truth will come out soon and we will know whether Ukraine has taken control or not.

Mobiks of the Russian regime have lost over 50% of their company resisting the offensive in Novodarivka, west of Rivnopil, both recently liberated by the Ukrainian defence forces. Mobiks are forced to fight without artillery support, are left without provision and water, and as… pic.twitter.com/5QEaQsYaAe

— Dmitri (@wartranslated) July 7, 2023

❗️Sladkov - Russian armed formations left Klischiivka!

"We left Kleshcheevka.
This is near Bakhmut. It is necessary to check this, I'll be glad if this is reguted. If it's true, then it's bad. Bakhmut is under fire control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
I can’t say a bad word… pic.twitter.com/0jTd0443yG

— Dmitri (@wartranslated) July 5, 2023

chriso_wiki is similar to Dmitri but with more in depth research based on primary sources. He focuses on Russian corruption so he has a lot of content lol.

2/ The independent Russian news outlet Verstka reports that the Moscow city authorities have told "at least two major construction companies to find several dozen volunteers who will agree to sign a contract for military service and go to the war zone in Ukraine."

— ChrisO_wiki (@ChrisO_wiki) July 7, 2023

There are plenty of others like @noclador (who Twitter has shadow banned) and a lot of traditional journalists who are focused on this awful war and regularly provide great content.

Obviously, it should go without saying that none of these are pro Russian because the only people who favor Putin and Russia are either shills or useful idiots.

Another source of info is to just assume everything being shared by the shills on BI is the opposite of truth and you will get closer to an accurate picture than the one they want you to hear.

Is it true that Ukraine's offensive has already gained more ground that the entire Russian winter offensive which I heard was a huge strategic military success?