Why couldn't Poland be the "bulwark" and Ukraine be neutral? NATO told Gorby when the USSR imploded, in writing, and verbally, that NATO wouldn't expand eastward. And that's exactly what they did.

Merkel publicly said their committment to Minsk was a ruse intended to give them time to build up the Ukrainian military.

American neocons faied in Afghanistan, Syria, Vietnam and Iraq. Add Ukraine.

Russia views NATO in Eastern Ukraine with 400,000 trained and armed troops as an existential threat. Meanwhile, it's not even a top 3 priority for America.

Now we have Germany 5 days ago saying its possible a western power (read America) blew up Nord Stream. And dummies Biden, Nuland, and Blinken gloated about it. The Pentagon reportedly told the White House 2 months ago NATO couldn't win. The WH won't accept that conclusion.

Now the escalation Colonel Douglass McGregor warned about may unfold.

1. Will Russia respond to America allegedly blowing up NS 1 and 2, or send us a bill? What infrastructure could they strike?

2. In response to the UK saying they may send jets to Ukraine, Putin has warned of a possible serious response.

3. Germany has now secured non-US, long-term energy contracts,, and is showing more daylight between itself and America, including questioning whether the west sabatoged NS 1 and 2.

movielover said:

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Peace talks with no preconditions. Now.

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Well, as Naftali Bennett (former Israeli Prime Minister) said in an interview, there were peace talks and what really halted them was the Russians massacring Ukrainian citizens in Bucha.

https://www.thebulwark.com/no-the-united-states-and-its-allies-did-not-blow-up-a-ukraine-russia-peace-deal/

So again, there will be no peace until Putin stops the violence.

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Peace talks with no preconditions. Now.

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Well, as Naftali Bennett (former Israeli Prime Minister) said in an interview, there were peace talks and what really halted them was the Russians massacring Ukrainian citizens in Bucha.

https://www.thebulwark.com/no-the-united-states-and-its-allies-did-not-blow-up-a-ukraine-russia-peace-deal/

So again, there will be no peace until Putin stops the violence.

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There will be no peace until there is peace!!!

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Well, Ukraine was a puppet state of Ukraine

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LOL

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Please explain the LOL.

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Ukraine was a puppet state of itself? Is this like having your head up your a**?

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Well, Ukraine was a puppet state of Ukraine

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LOL

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Please explain the LOL.

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Ukraine was a puppet state of itself? Is this like having your head up your a**?

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Fixed.

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And now thete see allegations that we committed an act of war against our ally, and an adversary.

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Why couldn't Poland be the "bulwark" and Ukraine be neutral? NATO told Gorby when the USSR imploded, in writing, and verbally, that NATO wouldn't expand eastward. And that's exactly what they did.

Merkel publicly said their committment to Minsk was a ruse intended to give them time to build up the Ukrainian military.

American neocons faied in Afghanistan, Syria, Vietnam and Iraq. Add Ukraine.

Russia views NATO in Eastern Ukraine with 400,000 trained and armed troops as an existential threat. Meanwhile, it's not even a top 3 priority for America.

Now we have Germany 5 days ago saying its possible a western power (read America) blew up Nord Stream. And dummies Biden, Nuland, and Blinken gloated about it. The Pentagon reportedly told the White House 2 months ago NATO couldn't win. The WH won't accept that conclusion.

Now the escalation Colonel Douglass McGregor warned about may unfold.

1. Will Russia respond to America allegedly blowing up NS 1 and 2, or send us a bill? What infrastructure could they strike?

2. In response to the UK saying they may send jets to Ukraine, Putin has warned of a possible serious response.

3. Germany has now secured non-US, long-term energy contracts,, and is showing more daylight between itself and America, including questioning whether the west sabatoged NS 1 and 2.

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Are you this naive about everything? When a drunk driver crashes into your car are you worried about him sending you a bill for the damage to his car too?

It's amazing to me how people can completely suspend all rational thought process when they've been radicalized by self-serving propaganda.

If Russia wanted to attack the US (it doesn't), they don't need the fake excuse of NS. Russia has precisely zero credibility but shills like you incredulously take everything they say and do at face value.

I don't have the time to debunk all of your BS baseless theories, because you continue to engage in the firehose of falsehoods, but let's just unpack your painfully naive view on Minsk. You are so focused on what Russia wants you to hear about Minsk that you ignore the most important fact which is that Russia never believed that it was a party to Minsk or that it was bound by it. With that as the starting point, why do you pretend like Germany's views are fatal to Minsk?

And if Russia wants us to pay for NS, they can come talk to us when they have clean hands - eg after they exit their illegal occupation of Ukraine, pay reparations, and properly atone for their numerous war crimes.

How do the Russians know that the UK blew up the North Stream pipelines in partnership with the US?

Because @trussliz used her iPhone to send a message to @SecBlinken saying “It’s done” a minute after the pipeline blew up and before anybody else knew?

iCloud admin access rocks!

— Kim Dotcom (@KimDotcom) October 30, 2022

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More on Hersh:

This explains a lothttps://t.co/9lFEyLGzQT

— Mikael Jern (@JernMikael) February 8, 2023

ALWAYS consider the source.

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I did. Bellingcat?
https://www.mintpressnews.com/bellingcat-intelligence-agencies-launders-talking-points-media/276603/

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Also: MintPress News?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MintPress_News

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MintPress News has reposted content from Russian state media outlets RT and Sputnik, and is listed as a "partner" of PeaceData, a Russian fake news site run by the Internet Research Agency. A report from New Knowledge includes MintPress News as part of the "Russian web of disinformation,"and the site has published fake authors attributed to the GRU, the Russian military intelligence agency. MintPress News defended Russia's invasion of Crimea, claiming Ukraine's post-revolution government was "illegitimate."

The site ran numerous stories sympathetic to Syrian president Bashar al-Assad. The false information published by MintPress News attracts communities, including some Twitter users, that support Assad and the Russian government.

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Yup, sounds about right.

I'll just lay it out here: any outlet that publishes these ridiculous denials about Assad using chemical weapons in the Syrian civil war is automatically discredited in my book. There is no logical reason to believe these conspiracy theories, and it's a frankly disgusting attempt to run cover for a despot and war criminal. MintPress has done it, and so has Hersh. I don't find either of them credible.

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I don't know much about MintPress News. I do know something about Bellingcat though and when a Bellingcat author posts a tweet about something that he thinks I should pay attention to, I immediately think of the government trying to control a narrative they don't like.

Belingcops out in full force today pic.twitter.com/KDl1GAWNwW

— Mr Skalastiks 🛹 (@OJutel) February 8, 2023

Also, quoting Wikipedia to try and identify who the bad people are that we shouldn't listen to is yet another example where you attack the man, rather than the story. You may not be aware of this, but I could go to Wikipedia right now and edit that entire page to say something else if I wanted. It can be a convenient site for looking things up, but it's also not something to be relied upon.

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How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline

The New York Times called it a "mystery," but the United States executed a covert sea operation that was kept secret until now.

https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream

So much for the "moral high ground" and claiming to be the "good guys."

IF you were believing the Biden/U.S. foreign policy stories on what happened with the Nordstream sabotage & why, you were fooled.

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Seymour Hersh (a once great journalist) has increasingly become a conspiracy theorist in recent years.

He's claimed the Bin Laden raid was an elaborately staged con, and that Assad never used Sarin gas on his own people in Syria (again, he claims a US-led false flag conspiracy).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Hersh

I think we need more than his unnamed sources to be sure of this one.

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You do realize that if he names his sources inside the U.S. intelligence community, their careers are over, if not their lives.

You also have to realize that anyone in the corporate media who validates his writing will also be labeled a "Putin apologist".

Hersh has been a "conspiracy theorist" for his entire career in journalism. He quite literally exposes actual conspiracies that OUR government participates in, using OUR tax dollars, in OUR name. His work is exactly why we have a 1st Amendment and Freedom of the Press. How else do we come to know what OUR government is doing, if not for his unnamed sources??

The Neocon war criminals who took over the U.S. foreign policy, intelligence, and defense establishments in 2001, and who remain in place today, are no friend of the American People. They're continuing their quest for world dominion, trying to keep the U.S. as a unipolar superpower in an increasingly multipolar world. They've been planning this war in Ukraine for well over 20 years, but they have most Americans convinced that Russia is the aggressor.

We can now expect many more attacks on U.S. power plants & energy infrastructure, thanks to the Neocon bozos who wanted to penalize Germany for buying gas from Russia.

This is all about keeping Russia from having close ties with Europe, and keeping them from having influence as a world power. As many have said, the U.S. will fight Russia "down to the last Ukrainian."

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I understand why he might not want to name sources. But he also has no physical evidence. No memos, photos, emails, anything. This article has a very compelling story, but there's no way for anyone to verify it.

At one time Hersh exposed actual conspiracies, it's true (when he reported on Abu Ghraib, he had an actual government report in hand). In more recent times he's seemingly turned to making them up himself. Read this:

https://www.vox.com/2015/5/11/8584473/seymour-hersh-osama-bin-laden

Now, does any of that prove he's WRONG about this? No. I just can't take his word for it alone. Frankly, I think the fact that no editor at a real publication would take this story from a well-known journalist and he had to publish it on a personal Substack blog should raise some red flags right off the bat.

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What does Substack have to do with anything?

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Peace talks with no preconditions. Now.

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Well, as Naftali Bennett (former Israeli Prime Minister) said in an interview, there were peace talks and what really halted them was the Russians massacring Ukrainian citizens in Bucha.

https://www.thebulwark.com/no-the-united-states-and-its-allies-did-not-blow-up-a-ukraine-russia-peace-deal/

So again, there will be no peace until Putin stops the violence.

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https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-bulwark/

Founded in 2018 by Charlie Sykes and William Kristol

For those who may be a little younger, Bill Kristol was one of the neocons that tried to sell the weapons of mass destruction lie in Iraq and then when they didn't exist, still insisted that the war was worth fighting.

https://www.mediamatters.org/bill-kristol/iraq-war-architect-bill-kristol-knowing-what-we-know-now-we-were-right-fight-iraq

To quote you from earlier in this topic, I'll just lay it out here: anybody that tried to sell the weapons of mass destruction narrative in Iraq is automatically discredited in my book.

Yup. Scott Ritter recently said he had worked w Colin Powell and respected him, until he gave his WMD speech "full of lies".

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If you only read "real publications," you're missing out on the truth.

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And also, clearly, if you only trust "alternative" sources you are also going to be led down some rabbit holes.

I think you're too far gone at this point. One would think that being proven so obviously wrong about Russia not wanting to invade Ukraine would have taught you a bit of humility, but apparently not. The Hersh article confirms your priors, so you treat it as gospel despite the numerous issues with it.

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Max pretty much sums up where I am at on this. Nord Stream was blown up in NATO's backyard - you can't fart in the Baltic Sea without NATO sonar picking it up. Hard to believe the Russians would pull this off and not get caught red handed either right after or before hand. https://t.co/46qLTSzARa

— Dan Caldwell 🇺🇸 (@dandcaldwell) February 11, 2023

movielover said:

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Why couldn't Poland be the "bulwark" and Ukraine be neutral? NATO told Gorby when the USSR imploded, in writing, and verbally, that NATO wouldn't expand eastward. And that's exactly what they did.

Merkel publicly said their committment to Minsk was a ruse intended to give them time to build up the Ukrainian military.

American neocons faied in Afghanistan, Syria, Vietnam and Iraq. Add Ukraine.

Russia views NATO in Eastern Ukraine with 400,000 trained and armed troops as an existential threat. Meanwhile, it's not even a top 3 priority for America.

Now we have Germany 5 days ago saying its possible a western power (read America) blew up Nord Stream. And dummies Biden, Nuland, and Blinken gloated about it. The Pentagon reportedly told the White House 2 months ago NATO couldn't win. The WH won't accept that conclusion.

Now the escalation Colonel Douglass McGregor warned about may unfold.

1. Will Russia respond to America allegedly blowing up NS 1 and 2, or send us a bill? What infrastructure could they strike?

2. In response to the UK saying they may send jets to Ukraine, Putin has warned of a possible serious response.

3. Germany has now secured non-US, long-term energy contracts,, and is showing more daylight between itself and America, including questioning whether the west sabatoged NS 1 and 2.

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It was U.S. Secretary of State James Baker, who told Gorbachev that NATO wouldn't expand Eastward. It was verbal, not written. But that assurance was critical, because with it, Ukraine relinquished their nuclear weapons from the USSR days.

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movielover said:

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Why couldn't Poland be the "bulwark" and Ukraine be neutral? NATO told Gorby when the USSR imploded, in writing, and verbally, that NATO wouldn't expand eastward. And that's exactly what they did.

Merkel publicly said their committment to Minsk was a ruse intended to give them time to build up the Ukrainian military.

American neocons faied in Afghanistan, Syria, Vietnam and Iraq. Add Ukraine.

Russia views NATO in Eastern Ukraine with 400,000 trained and armed troops as an existential threat. Meanwhile, it's not even a top 3 priority for America.

Now we have Germany 5 days ago saying its possible a western power (read America) blew up Nord Stream. And dummies Biden, Nuland, and Blinken gloated about it. The Pentagon reportedly told the White House 2 months ago NATO couldn't win. The WH won't accept that conclusion.

Now the escalation Colonel Douglass McGregor warned about may unfold.

1. Will Russia respond to America allegedly blowing up NS 1 and 2, or send us a bill? What infrastructure could they strike?

2. In response to the UK saying they may send jets to Ukraine, Putin has warned of a possible serious response.

3. Germany has now secured non-US, long-term energy contracts,, and is showing more daylight between itself and America, including questioning whether the west sabatoged NS 1 and 2.

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It was U.S. Secretary of State James Baker, who told Gorbachev that NATO wouldn't expand Eastward. It was verbal, not written. But that assurance was critical, because with it, Ukraine relinquished their nuclear weapons from the USSR days.

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I believe Mearsheimer and other have pointed out that Ukraine and other former Soviet states giving up their nuclear arsenal was prompted as much by pressure from the US as anyone else, because these states were very politically unstable and fragile early in the post-Soviet era, so pressuring them into giving up their nukes was a no-brainer.

You didn't want officials or generals from these countries selling off a couple of nuclear bombs to third parties for a billion or two, the same way the current Ukrainian government and military are selling off Javelins to rogue elements in Africa or the Middle East on the black market.

Just watched a professor who claimed our proxy war here was an attempt to weaken China, by weakening Russia - which included "the mother of all sanctions" (Biden) - and it all failed.

Russia economy fine, ruble up, China and Russia closer.

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Just watched a professor who claimed our proxy war here was an attempt to weaken China, by weakening Russia - which included "the mother of all sanctions" (Biden) - and it all failed.

Russia economy fine, ruble up, China and Russia closer.

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If our economy was doing as "well" as Russia's economy, people would be apoplectic. Russia's done better than they had feared, but only a devoted propagandist could pretend that it's gone well.

As for the ruble being up, maybe time to stop listening to propaganda? After cratering immediately post-invasion, the Ruble settled in at ~55-60 per USD (eg 1 RUB = ~1.7 cents). It started falling quickly in December and is now sitting at around 73 (eg 1 RUB = ~1.3 cents). That's a 20-30% fall depending on when you measure from which isn't great for Russia and certainly not "up". There is a reason that the shills stopped crowing about the Ruble a few months ago, but I guess you haven't gotten the memo yet.

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The head of Russia's Central Bank said in December that Russian GDP would contract just 3% in 2022, while President Vladimir Putin predicted a drop of 2.5%.

"The Russian economy has survived 2022," economist Janis Kluge of the German Institute for International and Security Affairs (SWP) told The Moscow Times.

"But we cannot yet say that it survived the sanctions because they are still unfolding."

Economists like Kluge warn that, behind the seemingly positive end-of-year statistics, there are numerous signs of darker times ahead.

And even the GDP numbers are not as rosy as they might appear.

The inclusion of sanctions-free January and February into GDP figures creates a misleading image of Russia's real economic losses and economists point out that Russia's war-related economic losses are significantly higher because before the invasion the economy was expected to grow about 3%.

Even a contraction of 3% is a "colossal recession given that all world economies were expected to grow by 3% or 4% after the coronavirus pandemic," economist Oleg Itskhoki said in a recent YouTube stream hosted by Russian journalist Yevgenia Albats.

According to Kluge, before the war, Russia's economy was expected to grow up to 4% between February and December. Instead, it has declined 6% in that time.

This means Western sanctions "basically shrunk Russia's economy by 10%," he said.

In comparison, Russian GDP contracted 7.8% during the 2009 global economic crisis.

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Falling gas and oil exports are expected to weaken Russia's currency and the ruble has lost 13% against the U.S. dollar since the imposition of the price cap.

This trend is likely to continue, according to Kruge.

"The ruble will weaken and it will lead to even more inflation in Russia. This is also becoming a political problem," said the SWP's economist.

Annual inflation in Russia last year is expected to hit 12%.

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How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline

The New York Times called it a "mystery," but the United States executed a covert sea operation that was kept secret until now.

https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream

So much for the "moral high ground" and claiming to be the "good guys."

IF you were believing the Biden/U.S. foreign policy stories on what happened with the Nordstream sabotage & why, you were fooled.

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Seymour Hersh (a once great journalist) has increasingly become a conspiracy theorist in recent years.

He's claimed the Bin Laden raid was an elaborately staged con, and that Assad never used Sarin gas on his own people in Syria (again, he claims a US-led false flag conspiracy).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Hersh

I think we need more than his unnamed sources to be sure of this one.

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I'm not sure what put the bug in my head, but I finally went and read that article about the bin Laden raid. I found it very interesting.

https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v37/n10/seymour-m.-hersh/the-killing-of-osama-bin-laden

I'm curious to know what issues you have with the article.

I see that the usual DELUSIONAL SUSPECTS are once again presenting a terribly "twisted" view of a bullish Russian economy.

Never mind that Russia's budget deficit hit a record 1.8 trillion Russian rubles in January, with spending growing by 58% from the previous year while revenues fell by more than a third.

Never mind that Industrial production and retail sales in December fell to their worst year-on-year contractions since the onset of the Covid-19 pandemic in early 2020, with retail sales dropping by 10.5% year-on-year while industrial production shrank by 4.3%, compared to a 1.8% contraction in November.

Oil and gas revenues amounted to RUB 426 billion in January 2023, a decline of 46% from a year earlier, primarily due to a decrease in quotations for Urals oil and a drop in natural gas exports.

Yeah, the Russian economy is doing GREAT!

Bwahahahahahaaaaaaa!

Morons.

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I see that the usual DELUSIONAL SUSPECTS are once again presenting a terribly "twisted" view of a bullish Russian economy.

Never mind that Russia's budget deficit hit a record 1.8 trillion Russian rubles in January, with spending growing by 58% from the previous year while revenues fell by more than a third.

Never mind that Industrial production and retail sales in December fell to their worst year-on-year contractions since the onset of the Covid-19 pandemic in early 2020, with retail sales dropping by 10.5% year-on-year while industrial production shrank by 4.3%, compared to a 1.8% contraction in November.

Yeah, the Russian economy is doing GREAT!

Bwahahahahahaaaaaaa!

Morons.

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No wonder the Ruble has dropped ~25% since the end of November when it had finally managed to climb back to pre-pandemic levels through manipulation.

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No wonder the Ruble has dropped ~25% since the end of November when it had finally managed to climb back to pre-pandemic levels through manipulation.

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Yeah, the Ruble has been doing GREAT against the USD.
Hahahahaaaaaa!

DiabloWags said:

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I see that the usual DELUSIONAL SUSPECTS are once again presenting a terribly "twisted" view of a bullish Russian economy.

Never mind that Russia's budget deficit hit a record 1.8 trillion Russian rubles in January, with spending growing by 58% from the previous year while revenues fell by more than a third.

Never mind that Industrial production and retail sales in December fell to their worst year-on-year contractions since the onset of the Covid-19 pandemic in early 2020, with retail sales dropping by 10.5% year-on-year while industrial production shrank by 4.3%, compared to a 1.8% contraction in November.

Oil and gas revenues amounted to RUB 426 billion in January 2023, a decline of 46% from a year earlier, primarily due to a decrease in quotations for Urals oil and a drop in natural gas exports.

Yeah, the Russian economy is doing GREAT!

Bwahahahahahaaaaaaa!

Morons.

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According to the IMF, it is doing OK. Not great, not terrible, just OK. Which is a pretty unexpected state, given that NATO technocrats thought it would collapse, and that the starving Russian masses will storm the Kremlin...

You think that the Russian economy is going to collapse because the numbers in January looked bad?

Remedial Russian Economy 101 quizz:

• What is Russia's debt, in absolute figure, and as a percentage of its GDP?
• Which large industrialized economies are in better shape than Russia, in terms of debt to GDP ratio?
• What is the size of Russia's sovereign fund, of its currency reserves, and its gold reserves?
• What is the estimated Russian wealth in natural resources, and where does that place that country in the world ranking?
• If you're having trouble answering any of the questions above, would you trust yourself to mow your own lawn?

Is Putin88 working really hard (again) to push Mother Russia's agenda?

Sorry folks.... but I've had this Russian propagandist clown on IGNORE for awhile now.

Too bad his rubbish shows up in other people's posts via quotes.

Apparently, he violates no Terms of Service at Bearinsider.

Think I might have to revisit my subscription here.
I have a difficult time supporting a platform that sees no problem with his misinformation.

Reuters: German Industrial production fell 3.1% on month, 0.7% decline expected, while production in energy-intensive sectors fell 6.1%.

How many German companies will close or relocate due to much higher energy prices and instability?

Will they go to India, China, Vietnam?

DiabloWags said:

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Is Putin88 working really hard (again) to push Mother Russia's agenda?

Sorry folks.... but I've had this Russian propagandist clown on IGNORE for awhile now.

Too bad his rubbish shows up in other people's posts via quotes.

Apparently, he violates no Terms of Service at Bearinsider.

Think I might have to revisit my subscription here.
I have a difficult time supporting a platform that sees no problem with his misinformation.

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Revisit your subscription... Hahahahaaaaaa

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No wonder the Ruble has dropped ~25% since the end of November when it had finally managed to climb back to pre-pandemic levels through manipulation.

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Yeah, the Ruble has been doing GREAT against the USD.
Hahahahaaaaaa!

Idiots.

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Looks like this idiotic clown moron purposely chose 6 months. Choose 1 year or 5, and the pattern shows it worth much more than the dip in early 2022 and where it has been historically the last 5 years. Hahahahaaaaaa!!! Idiotic clown moron. Hahahahaaaaaa!!!

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Typical Oski.

Always looking in the rear view mirror and 5 years behind what's going on.
As if where the Ruble was 5 years ago has anything to do with what is going on right now, let alone Unit2's post about ruble weakness since November.

DiabloWags said:

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Is Putin88 working really hard (again) to push Mother Russia's agenda?

Sorry folks.... but I've had this Russian propagandist clown on IGNORE for awhile now.

Too bad his rubbish shows up in other people's posts via quotes.

Apparently, he violates no Terms of Service at Bearinsider.

Think I might have to revisit my subscription here.
I have a difficult time supporting a platform that sees no problem with his misinformation.

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You posted this, saying that you have me on ignore, like10min after I've eviscerated your thesis of Russian economic collapse. OK, sure...

You lose an argument, and throw a hissy fit, calling for censorship?

Did you really go to Cal?

The Russian Stock Market

Same place as it was from 5 years ago.

The S&P 500 is + 30% in the last 5 years

DiabloWags said:

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The Russian Stock Market

Same place as it was from 5 years ago.

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This appears to be a better target than your misleading posts on the alleged collapse of the ruble. Hahahahaaaaaa

oski003 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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Unit2Sucks said:

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No wonder the Ruble has dropped ~25% since the end of November when it had finally managed to climb back to pre-pandemic levels through manipulation.

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Yeah, the Ruble has been doing GREAT against the USD.
Hahahahaaaaaa!

Idiots.

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Looks like this idiotic clown moron purposely chose 6 months. Choose 1 year or 5, and the pattern shows it worth much more than the dip in early 2022 and where it has been historically the last 5 years. Hahahahaaaaaa!!! Idiotic clown moron. Hahahahaaaaaa!!!

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The most important aspect about the Ruble, which I've highlighted above, is that it has not declined due to the war sanctions, as expected by NATO technocrats. Year to year, it has actually gained about 5%-10% vs the US$ since the start of the war.

On the German economy:

Mittel-kaput? German industry stares into the abyss
Facing a prolonged energy crisis, many German firms face the unpleasant option of either shutting down or relocating elsewhere.
https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-industry-europe-energy-prices-basf/


Transition state of play Germany in the grip of the energy crisis

The energy crisis fueled by Russia's war against Ukraine is dealing a heavy blow to Europe's biggest economy. Germany, due to its large dependence on Russian fossil fuels. Policymakers, businesses and households alike are struggling to cope with skyrocketing prices, which are fanning fears of irreparable damages to the country's prized industries, economic hardships for its citizens, and social unrest.

https://www.cleanenergywire.org/germany-net-zero-transition-energy-crisis


On the bright side (no pun intended), least one company and one sector in Germany seem to be doing OK, Porsche (reportedly), and candle makers:

Facing an energy crisis, Germans stock up on candles
https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2022/12/20/1144258347/facing-an-energy-crisis-germans-stock-up-on-candles