sycasey said:
cbbass1 said:
sycasey said:
cbbass1 said:
How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline
The New York Times called it a "mystery," but the United States executed a covert sea operation that was kept secret until now.
https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream
So much for the "moral high ground" and claiming to be the "good guys."
IF you were believing the Biden/U.S. foreign policy stories on what happened with the Nordstream sabotage & why, you were fooled.
Seymour Hersh (a once great journalist) has increasingly become a conspiracy theorist in recent years.
He's claimed the Bin Laden raid was an elaborately staged con, and that Assad never used Sarin gas on his own people in Syria (again, he claims a US-led false flag conspiracy).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Hersh
I think we need more than his unnamed sources to be sure of this one.
You do realize that if he names his sources inside the U.S. intelligence community, their careers are over, if not their lives.
You also have to realize that anyone in the corporate media who validates his writing will also be labeled a "Putin apologist".
Hersh has been a "conspiracy theorist" for his entire career in journalism. He quite literally exposes actual conspiracies that OUR government participates in, using OUR tax dollars, in OUR name. His work is exactly why we have a 1st Amendment and Freedom of the Press. How else do we come to know what OUR government is doing, if not for his unnamed sources??
The Neocon war criminals who took over the U.S. foreign policy, intelligence, and defense establishments in 2001, and who remain in place today, are no friend of the American People. They're continuing their quest for world dominion, trying to keep the U.S. as a unipolar superpower in an increasingly multipolar world. They've been planning this war in Ukraine for well over 20 years, but they have most Americans convinced that Russia is the aggressor.
We can now expect many more attacks on U.S. power plants & energy infrastructure, thanks to the Neocon bozos who wanted to penalize Germany for buying gas from Russia.
This is all about keeping Russia from having close ties with Europe, and keeping them from having influence as a world power. As many have said, the U.S. will fight Russia "down to the last Ukrainian."
I understand why he might not want to name sources. But he also has no physical evidence. No memos, photos, emails, anything. This article has a very compelling story, but there's no way for anyone to verify it.
At one time Hersh exposed actual conspiracies, it's true (when he reported on Abu Ghraib, he had an actual government report in hand). In more recent times he's seemingly turned to making them up himself. Read this:
https://www.vox.com/2015/5/11/8584473/seymour-hersh-osama-bin-laden
Now, does any of that prove he's WRONG about this? No. I just can't take his word for it alone. Frankly, I think the fact that no editor at a real publication would take this story from a well-known journalist and he had to publish it on a personal Substack blog should raise some red flags right off the bat.
Any editor at any "real publication" is being threatened with de-monetization & censorship if they "engage in misinformation" (i.e., publish reports or opinions that conflict with the official U.S. narrative.) Bottom line: There is no longer 1st Amendment Press Freedom in the U.S.
You accuse me of believing Russian propaganda 100%. That's not what's happening.
I just find that the Russian propaganda is, on several occasions, more credible than the U.S. propaganda.
Case in point: I find Sy Hersh's story about the Nordstream sabotage, though single-sourced and anonymously sourced, far more credible than the denials of the Neocons, who don't even try to hide their rejoicing over Nordstream's destruction. They had the means, motive, and opportunity to pull it off; and Biden had even said, "If Russia invades, we will end it [Nordstream]." Russia had ZERO motive. And if Russia wanted to close the pipeline, they could simply close the pipeline.
Just before the Russian invasion of Ukraine last year, I raised a caution. I said, "Believe very little of what you hear." That's in keeping with the adage that "Truth is the first casualty of war."
It was 20 years ago that U.S. armed forces invaded Iraq. We did a "shock & awe" invasion of a sovereign nation based on a pile of lies. The U.S. propaganda machinery went into overdrive, crowing about bringing freedom & democracy to Iraq. IF that was the intention (it wasn't), it was an abject failure. After 20 years, and after spending $6 Trillion on a pointless war, and killing 200,000 civilians, we've added yet another failed state to our list of ruined nations.
As you probably remember, journalists & analysts who spoke out against the invasion of Iraq were fired. Phil Donahue -- fired. Dixie Chicks -- criticized relentlessly by establishment media. "If you're not with us, you're against us."
The Neocons who pushed & lied us into the Iraq War have never been held accountable for their war crimes. In fact, because of their illegal & unprovoked invasion, and the Neocons' fear of being held accountable, the U.S. no longer supports the International Criminal Court in The Hague.
So, 20 years after the illegal & unprovoked invasion of Iraq, 200,000 deaths, and the complete destruction of Iraq's infrastructure, supported by a tsunami of U.S. propaganda & lies --
these are the people you trust to tell you the truth?It doesn't take an ounce of courage to believe the lie-riddled official U.S. narrative on Ukraine. But those who publish opinions that refute or challenge the official U.S. narrative do so at great personal risk, and great personal cost.
Sy Hersh was right when he reported on My Lai; Daniel Ellsberg was right when he published the Pentagon Papers. Edward Snowden was right when he warned us about warrantless wiretapping and surveillance; and Julian Assange was right when he published WikiLeaks; and the millions of people around the world who marched with me to protest the illegal & unprovoked U.S. invasion of Iraq were right. We were right, and the Neocon liars were absolutely wrong. Can we at least agree on that?
You're absolutely right to be skeptical about Russian propaganda. I am, too.
But I would expect, given the stream of lies that were told 20 years ago, that you would be *a lot* more skeptical about anything that the U.S. Neocon warmongers are saying.
