The Midterm Elections

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In reply to DiabloWags • 2:20p, 11/10/22
DiabloWags said:
calbear93 said:

You said a lot of stupid things. No need to keep repeating it.

Do you ever take a look at yourself in the mirror?

Calbear93 said:
"Anyone who was employed during the last ten years and did not accumulate at least a few million in wealth needed some basic financial education."
I think you brain short-circuited and you are resorting to repeating the same thing over and over again and acting like this is some popularity contest with who gets invited to dinner parties.

You get invited to so many dinner parties that you spend your days and nights here. Got it.
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In reply to calbear93 • 2:20p, 11/10/22
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. . . and I guess a bit presumptuous on my part. wasn't a real number but a statement I made as part of a post i was typing on my phone while eating snacks. not really well thought out - which is a trait shared with most posts here.

This is the understatement of the year.
"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
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In reply to DiabloWags • 2:21p, 11/10/22
DiabloWags said:
calbear93 said:

. . . and I guess a bit presumptuous on my part. wasn't a real number but a statement I made as part of a post i was typing on my phone while eating snacks. not really well thought out - which is a trait shared with most posts here.

This is the understatement of the year.
Don't you have some dinner party to go to in your porsche?

Funny.

You should list Beainsider as your address since you live here.
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In reply to calbear93 • 2:24p, 11/10/22
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You should list Beainsider as your address since you live here.

Cool story.
As if posting 4.1 times per day is living here.
Nice try.


"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
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2:26p, 11/10/22
When you brag about all of the money that you made in your investments after your law career, but are too tight to support Bearinsider to the tune of a whopping $11.50 per month.




"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
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In reply to DiabloWags • 2:29p, 11/10/22
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When you brag about all of the money that you made in your investments after your law career, but are too tight to support Bearinsider to the tune of a whopping $11.50 per month.




OK. Cool story, dinner parties, posting 4 times a day every day, bro, pressuring others to subscribe when he only subscribed after being mocked, makes fun of those who did not go to UC Berkeley then says education is not important when others with better pedigree are presented, brags about his porsche, and name drops MAGA reporters after saying that people here are financially illiterate.

And I should take advice from you? Clearly you are a winner.
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In reply to calbear93 • 2:32p, 11/10/22
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Big C said:

Back to DeSantis: Yes, he is probably smart and he might be competent, I don't know. But the way he's constantly playing the "culture wars" card, he comes off to me as mean and calculating. Sure, being calculating is part of politics, but I'd like to see a lot more "competent" and less bs. Show me your vision for all Americans, beyond "Florida is where woke goes to die!" Hard no on DeSantis. What a phony. I would prefer Gavin Newsom in a heartbeat.
You don't think Gavin Newsom is phony? You don't think he says things to play to his base?
Newsom does seem a bit phony. But he doesn't seem vindictive or mean. Everything DeSantis says or does seems like he's just trying to get back at somebody.
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In reply to sycasey • 2:35p, 11/10/22
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calbear93 said:
Big C said:

Back to DeSantis: Yes, he is probably smart and he might be competent, I don't know. But the way he's constantly playing the "culture wars" card, he comes off to me as mean and calculating. Sure, being calculating is part of politics, but I'd like to see a lot more "competent" and less bs. Show me your vision for all Americans, beyond "Florida is where woke goes to die!" Hard no on DeSantis. What a phony. I would prefer Gavin Newsom in a heartbeat.
You don't think Gavin Newsom is phony? You don't think he says things to play to his base?
Newsom does seem a bit phony. But he doesn't seem vindictive or mean. Everything DeSantis says or does seems like he's just trying to get back at somebody.
I think Newsom does come out as mean but in a frat boy mean type of way. Not sure whether he is vindictive or not, but I suppose you cannot rise as he has politically in California without being vindictive.

DeSantis does not seem as cool as Newsom, which may be a bit of his appeal as well.

I suspect DeSantis has a better chance of eventually being president than Newsom but who knows. Political winds change pretty quickly.

Also, you have to remember that DeSantis was a prosecutor, including cases involving child abuse. He has that prosecutor, bulldog demeaner, especially with him having served in the military.

He needs to cut back on the social warfare if he wants to win a national election, but he has been doing fine so far.
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In reply to calbear93 • 2:37p, 11/10/22
calbear93 said:
Big C said:

Back to DeSantis: Yes, he is probably smart and he might be competent, I don't know. But the way he's constantly playing the "culture wars" card, he comes off to me as mean and calculating. Sure, being calculating is part of politics, but I'd like to see a lot more "competent" and less bs. Show me your vision for all Americans, beyond "Florida is where woke goes to die!" Hard no on DeSantis. What a phony. I would prefer Gavin Newsom in a heartbeat.
You don't think Gavin Newsom is phony? You don't think he says things to play to his base?

He is/does, for sure. And his French Laundry escapade... I looked up Limousine Liberal and there was his picture. And that's sort of why I'm comparing the two: Newsom at least talks of creating an equal playing field, whereas DeSantis is riling up ignorant white people who are desperately afraid that their piece of the pie might not continue to grow. When it comes to phonies, I'll go with the former, any day.
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2:38p, 11/10/22
This thread appears to have a couple of people rapidly heading towards BearFarce2 2020 election day territory.
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In reply to Big C • 2:40p, 11/10/22
Big C said:
calbear93 said:
Big C said:

Back to DeSantis: Yes, he is probably smart and he might be competent, I don't know. But the way he's constantly playing the "culture wars" card, he comes off to me as mean and calculating. Sure, being calculating is part of politics, but I'd like to see a lot more "competent" and less bs. Show me your vision for all Americans, beyond "Florida is where woke goes to die!" Hard no on DeSantis. What a phony. I would prefer Gavin Newsom in a heartbeat.
You don't think Gavin Newsom is phony? You don't think he says things to play to his base?

He is/does, for sure. And his French Laundry escapade... I looked up Limousine Liberal and there was his picture. And that's sort of why I'm comparing the two: Newsom at least talks of creating an equal playing field, whereas DeSantis is riling up ignorant white people who are desperately afraid that their piece of the pie might not continue to grow. When it comes to phonies, I'll go with the former, any day.
I don't know whether he appeals only to ignorant white people. I suspect he has strong support from various demographics in Florida, including the Hispanic community.

I think some would argue that DeSantis is about creating an equal playing field as well instead of catering to every special interest group that threatens to cancel unless catered to.

By the way, I completely respect that you prefer Newsom. I don't object too much to Newsom. He would be better than Biden at this point in their respective careers. And I remember when he ran for mayor in San Francisco, the dig against him was that he was too conservative relative to those competing with him. I am glad he won, and he started the trend to allow gay marriages.

But I prefer DeSantis.
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In reply to Eastern Oregon Bear • 2:41p, 11/10/22
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
This thread appears to have a couple of people rapidly heading towards BearFarce2 2020 election day territory.
Not sure I get the reference, but since you are one of the more rational liberals posting here, interested in what your criticism is.
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In reply to Eastern Oregon Bear • 2:58p, 11/10/22
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
This thread appears to have a couple of people rapidly heading towards BearFarce2 2020 election day territory.
Yea, they need to get a room together. Let's get back to the mid terms.
This just in: Republicans find another whistleblower who claims Hillary's emails were proven to be on Hunter's laptop while Obama spied on tRump as he sat (shat?) upon his golden toilet. Gym Jordan afraid whistle blower may be in danger of abduction by aliens in cahoots with Democrats.
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In reply to calbear93 • 3:02p, 11/10/22
calbear93 said:
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
This thread appears to have a couple of people rapidly heading towards BearFarce2 2020 election day territory.
Not sure I get the reference, but since you are one of the more rational liberals posting here, interested in what your criticism is.


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In reply to dajo9 • 3:03p, 11/10/22
dajo9 said:
calbear93 said:
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
This thread appears to have a couple of people rapidly heading towards BearFarce2 2020 election day territory.
Not sure I get the reference, but since you are one of the more rational liberals posting here, interested in what your criticism is.


OK, that was funny.
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In reply to GoOskie • 3:04p, 11/10/22
GoOskie said:
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
This thread appears to have a couple of people rapidly heading towards BearFarce2 2020 election day territory.
Yea, they need to get a room together. Let's get back to the mid terms.
I like your signature.
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In reply to dimitrig • 3:06p, 11/10/22
dimitrig said:
dajo9 said:
okaydo said:
On the one hand, we need to get better at rejecting idiots from the social consciousness. On the other hand, these idiots give us so many laughs.

I don't think she's lost yet. It is supposedly very, very close.



Looks like Bobo is going to pull it off. She is ahead about 800 votes now with most of the vote counted.

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In reply to dimitrig • 3:07p, 11/10/22
dimitrig said:
dimitrig said:
dajo9 said:
okaydo said:
On the one hand, we need to get better at rejecting idiots from the social consciousness. On the other hand, these idiots give us so many laughs.

I don't think she's lost yet. It is supposedly very, very close.



Looks like Bobo is going to pull it off. She is ahead about 800 votes now with most of the vote counted.

I doubt she will complain about voter fraud or not wanting to get the election certified.
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In reply to calbear93 • 3:13p, 11/10/22
calbear93 said:
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
This thread appears to have a couple of people rapidly heading towards BearFarce2 2020 election day territory.
Not sure I get the reference, but since you are one of the more rational liberals posting here, interested in what your criticism is.
I was just making a comment about the bickering back and forth between you and Diablo Wags. In the 36 hours before the 2020 election, BearFarce2 made about 500-600 posts to Off Topic. No exaggeration. He didn't appear to even take more than an hour or two off to sleep. Both of you were over 40 posts today and much of it was of the Yes you are, No I'm not variety. I understand both of your mutual annoyance but enough was enough.

By the way thanks for calling me at least somewhat rational. I appreciate it.
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In reply to Eastern Oregon Bear • 3:16p, 11/10/22
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
calbear93 said:
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
This thread appears to have a couple of people rapidly heading towards BearFarce2 2020 election day territory.
Not sure I get the reference, but since you are one of the more rational liberals posting here, interested in what your criticism is.
I was just making a comment about the bickering back and forth between you and Diablo Wags. In the 36 hours before the 2020 election, BearFarce2 made about 500-600 posts to off topic. No exaggeration. He didn't appear to even take more than an hour or two off to sleep. Both of you were over 40 posts today and much of it was of the Yes you are, No I'm not variety. I understand both of your mutual annoyance but enough was enough.

By the way thanks for calling me at least somewhat rational. I appreciate it.
Yeah, a lot of counter punching there. Stupid posters make me act stupid. But I take as well as I throw. But fair that it must have been annoying to be polluted with the back and forth.
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In reply to Eastern Oregon Bear • 3:21p, 11/10/22
Eastern Oregon Bear said:

I was just making a comment about the bickering back and forth between you and Diablo Wags. In the 36 hours before the 2020 election, BearFarce2 made about 500-600 posts to Off Topic. No exaggeration. He didn't appear to even take more than an hour or two off to sleep. Both of you were over 40 posts today and much of it was of the Yes you are, No I'm not variety. I understand both of your mutual annoyance but enough was enough.


But I'm willing to spend $11.50 a month to support Bearinsider.
You'd think that BearFarce would have at least been given a monthly stipend from the troll farm company.

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In reply to calbear93 • 4:04p, 11/10/22
calbear93 said:
sycasey said:
calbear93 said:
Big C said:

Back to DeSantis: Yes, he is probably smart and he might be competent, I don't know. But the way he's constantly playing the "culture wars" card, he comes off to me as mean and calculating. Sure, being calculating is part of politics, but I'd like to see a lot more "competent" and less bs. Show me your vision for all Americans, beyond "Florida is where woke goes to die!" Hard no on DeSantis. What a phony. I would prefer Gavin Newsom in a heartbeat.
You don't think Gavin Newsom is phony? You don't think he says things to play to his base?
Newsom does seem a bit phony. But he doesn't seem vindictive or mean. Everything DeSantis says or does seems like he's just trying to get back at somebody.
I think Newsom does come out as mean but in a frat boy mean type of way. Not sure whether he is vindictive or not, but I suppose you cannot rise as he has politically in California without being vindictive.
I see Newsom as more smarmy than mean. Like he's going to lecture you about what you're doing wrong, when these are standards he can't even live up to himself.

But does he tend to attack people who don't do what he wants? I mean, besides other politicians who oppose his agenda? I don't think so. DeSantis does that. He went at some high school kids just because they were wearing masks while standing behind him, for crissakes.

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In reply to sycasey • 4:41p, 11/10/22
sycasey said:
calbear93 said:
sycasey said:
calbear93 said:
Big C said:

Back to DeSantis: Yes, he is probably smart and he might be competent, I don't know. But the way he's constantly playing the "culture wars" card, he comes off to me as mean and calculating. Sure, being calculating is part of politics, but I'd like to see a lot more "competent" and less bs. Show me your vision for all Americans, beyond "Florida is where woke goes to die!" Hard no on DeSantis. What a phony. I would prefer Gavin Newsom in a heartbeat.
You don't think Gavin Newsom is phony? You don't think he says things to play to his base?
Newsom does seem a bit phony. But he doesn't seem vindictive or mean. Everything DeSantis says or does seems like he's just trying to get back at somebody.
I think Newsom does come out as mean but in a frat boy mean type of way. Not sure whether he is vindictive or not, but I suppose you cannot rise as he has politically in California without being vindictive.
I see Newsom as more smarmy than mean. Like he's going to lecture you about what you're doing wrong, when these are standards he can't even live up to himself.

But does he tend to attack people who don't do what he wants? I mean, besides other politicians who oppose his agenda? I don't think so. DeSantis does that. He went at some high school kids just because they were wearing masks while standing behind him, for crissakes.

That was definitely a political move. When he is standing against what he viewed as oppressive nature of the COVID mandates (mask wearing is pretty basic - did not agree with him there), it would have been a bad photo op for him to stand in front of kids wearing masks. Petty but I get the political annoyance.

Never said he was perfect, but, in light of economic policies, his prior positions as a member of congress, his willingness to serve in the military despite having graduated from Harvard Law School with honors, etc., I would prefer him by far over Trump and I prefer his policies over those of Biden and the progressive left. So, holistically, I prefer him over Trump, Biden and most likely Newsom. Again, not perfect but someone I can support.
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5:17p, 11/10/22
Hear me out calbear93. Before you go all in on DeSantis, you should know that totally normal person Kari Lake, who is definitely not a complete nutjob, thinks DeSantis is part of a cabal orchestrating a conspiracy against her in order to hurt Trump. LOL.

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In reply to Unit2Sucks • 5:36p, 11/10/22
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Hear me out calbear93. Before you go all in on DeSantis, you should know that totally normal person Kari Lake, who is definitely not a complete nutjob, thinks DeSantis is part of a cabal orchestrating a conspiracy against her in order to hurt Trump. LOL.



The fact that loonies like Lake and Trump are threatened by DeSantis makes me like him more. He can play to their base like them without all of their actual stupidity and with the ability to actually govern.
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In reply to Big C • 5:38p, 11/10/22
Big C said:
movielover said:
Big C said:
tequila4kapp said:
Big C said:
tequila4kapp said:
This election is over but for some counting and Georgia's run-off.

The underlying fundamentals were so skewed toward Rs that I am suspicious there's something more fundamental at play rather than anti-trump, abortion, etc. It has to be something like Ds on the ground get out the vote game developed during the Covid shutdown were leveraged to great effect. It's the most logical explanation to me, but we will learn in time.

In the meantime, Ds get some time to rightly gloat and Rs still have a solid path to quietly capturing the House and Senate. TBD.

How, in your opinion, were "the underlying fundamentals... so skewed toward Rs"?

For me, the one thing that comes to mind is the way that the midterms have tended to go against the President that has just taken office two years prior, which, in this case, happens to be away from the Dems, toward the Republicans.
Biden massively underwater. 75-80% of people saying country is going in the wrong direction. Very high number of people saying inflation was their major issue. Historical trend of party in power losing seats. This will be 1st ever party in power with underwater president has over 195 seats.

If that's true that "75-80% of people saying country is going in the wrong direction", how, specifically, did they pin that on ol' Joe?

It's like inflation, how, specifically, is that Biden's fault? Sure, the Republicans tried to pin it on him, but I didn't sense that they had their own plan to counter it, did they? Do they?

Everybody hates inflation and it's an aspect of the economy that everybody sees, firsthand, all the time. But I feel like, in general, the economy's in decent shape.

Americans (and, heck, people everywhere) like to gripe and blame things on the politicians in office, but when push came to shove and people looked at alternatives, they were like, "Biden? He's doing okay."


We've gone over this before, didn't you pay attention?

1. Added over $4 Trillion+ in spending, on top of orevious stimulus spending.
2. Green NewcDeal / Build Back Better / WEF - restricting new oil and NG leases, shutting down new pipelines, and negative market news.
3. Signed Paris Accord
4. 2 & 3 lead to big jumps in energy prices, which lead to big jumps in food prices
5. Proxy war w Ukraine
6. Could have fired the Fed chair
7. Extended Lockdowns, which leads to a host of problems, including more $$$ chasing fewer goods

If you posted it, no, I didn't pay attention.


Liberals: emotion > facts
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5:40p, 11/10/22
So much for Trafalgar's A polling rating
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In reply to calbear93 • 5:46p, 11/10/22
C'mon now, Newsom posed on a rug w Kimberely, was nursed at the teet by Pelosi and the Robber Barron's prodigy, and then moved from The City to diverse... Ross, CA.

Michael Savage dubbed him "Any Twosome Newsom".

But does he have a Porsche on backorder?

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In reply to movielover • 6:07p, 11/10/22
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Oh, so you're saying that TWO DAYS after the election they just FOUND all these votes to help put the Republicans ahead? Let's get Dinesh D'Souza on this scandal to expose what's going on.

Stop the steal! How many mules this time?
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In reply to tequila4kapp • 8:07p, 11/10/22
tequila4kapp said:
concordtom said:
tequila4kapp said:

1st, he's the Comptroller. Since when does a candidate for that position have enough money to have a slick website, including some very smart graphical information, and the ability to have billboards all over the city? Call me conspiratorial but this smells of Soros backed nonesense.



You made me laugh when you connected the dots between a guy possibly being funded or aided by someone else to an effort by "George Soros".
Like, really? What do you know about either Mejia or Soros and on what grounds other than wild speculation do you have in connecting the two?
Any answer is just more wild speculation, but hey, the more it's said the more real it becomes, so go for it!!
Keep reading the thread. I said later that it was speculative of me to say "Soros". My instincts told me he had to have real money on hand and that instinct was right. It turns out it came at least in part from the Govt matching program. I have not seen a source that lists his total campaign funds or some other things that would help fill in the blanks.

I jumped to Soros because Mejia is Green Party and his positions read like their are from the Soros playbook.


Fair enough. I speculate often, too.
I was just laughing because, I mean, come on… George Soros is just sooo cliche!
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In reply to DiabloWags • 8:20p, 11/10/22
DiabloWags said:
calbear93 said:
DiabloWags said:
dimitrig said:
calbear93 said:


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I know most people are not fiscally responsible. They spent above their means and they missed out on one of the greatest wealth creation period in history.

I think you need to walk this statement back.

This might just be the most outrageous post in the history of Bearinsider.
Talk about living in a Ivory Tower.

Have you seen your signature? I have a hard time believing that the person who flaunts his wealth the most is the person writing this. Self-awareness is not clearly a strong attribute among those on OT

Youre hysterical.
I dont flaunt anything here except for the Beer that I drink.
No photos of lifestyle, cars, homes, vacations, dining, etc.

But go right ahead and deflect from making one of the most IVORY TOWER posts ever on Bearinsider.
Go right ahead.
I can take it.

Talk about self-awareness.
Oh the irony.

"Anyone who was employed during the last ten years and did not accumulate at least a few million in wealth needed some basic financial education."





So, I think you're a Class A Liar!!!

Because as much as I read here, if you flaunted the type of beer you drink then I'm pretty sure I'd know about it.

So, what kind is it??

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Insufferable smug religious hypocrite thy name is CalBear93. Even your flustered "takedown comebacks" are total weak sauce.


Wow!

And here I was just wondering why REFUSES TO PAY $11.50 PER MONTH to support Bearinsider with a subscription.



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8:30p, 11/10/22
He's on ignore, so…. Whatever!
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In reply to concordtom • 8:49p, 11/10/22
concordtom said:


So, I think you're a Class A Liar!!!

Because as much as I read here, if you flaunted the type of beer you drink then I'm pretty sure I'd know about it.

So, what kind is it??



HENHOUSE IPA

https://bearinsider.com/forums/6/topics/108165

"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
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