calbear93 said:
For example, you are against more housing because of traffic and resources but want more liberal policies for illegal immigrants, worry about affordability, wealth disparity, etc. That reveals such shallow thinking. You think the NIMBY attitude of the self proclaimed liberals and excess regulation on new development are not creating a lack of affordable housing? But you think everyone else should sacrifice to address but homeowners (maybe because you are a homeowner and you may actually have to sacrifice).
So, California housing. . .
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but want more liberal policies for illegal immigrants
You should admit you are wrong with this statement. At this point, I recognize that it is futile to ask you to stop making up strawman arguments against other people. It's kind of what you do.
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You think the NIMBY attitude of the self proclaimed liberals and excess regulation on new development are not creating a lack of affordable housing?
You should also admit this statement is wrong. It's kind of incomprehensible to me that somebody could read what I wrote about all the differing viewpoints and conflicting goals and then ascribe such a claim to me (but calbear93 and strawmen go together like peanut butter and jelly). Of course, NIMBY and regulation lead to higher prices.
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But you think everyone else should sacrifice to address but homeowners (maybe because you are a homeowner and you may actually have to sacrifice).
I read people complain about California all the time on these boards. I was born and raised in California and I am the one who moved out. Is that the kind of sacrifice you are talking about? I left California with negative net worth and zero asset ownership. I made money in suburban New Jersey and bought a rental property in California despite the lousy cap rates in California, because I know the demand to live in California and figured price appreciation would make it a good investment. I am less a California homeowner and more a California investor. I don't vote in California. I don't pay taxes in California. My home is in New Jersey.
My suburban New Jersey home is nice and bigger than my family needs and backs up against town woods. It would cost 2x - 3x as much in any desireable part of California. There is life outside of California. I have spent over 90% of my life in the suburbs. I don't really have NIMBY / YIMBY opinions for urban areas as I don't really get the draw of urban areas. Urban is not my thing. I don't want to live there and because I don't get it, I wouldn't want to invest there. I didn't relate well to living in Manhattan. I did relate well to living in Los Angeles but that is because L.A. is basically a big suburb. If I were still a Los Angeleno, why would I want to change the thing I like best about it? But I'm not a Los Angeleno.
I'm a New Jersey suburbanite and in my state - where I live and vote and pay taxes and where there is plenty of water (I have a big, green lawn, with deer visiting to graze daily, and I don't even have a sprinkler system) I support building more local housing. But I wouldn't support housing that changes the characteristic of our suburban community. Housing is complicated - even in New Jersey. But I've already made my California sacrifice.
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