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concordtom
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DiabloWags said:

Anarchistbear said:



We won!
Art of the deal


Just goes to show that Trump's word is worthless just like his trade agreements like USMCA and he can be easily "bought".

I wonder how much Putin "donated"




He put the Pee tape back in the vault.

The very first move in this game of global compromat is to obtain as much dirt on people as possible.

Once you entrap them in illegalities or embarrassments, you own them.

Offer a new up and comer something.

I recently watched 2011's Ides of March.
Giamatti "played" the kid.
And that wasn't even illegal.
Imagine the moves unscrupulous criminal like Putin and Trump will do to catch someone.


Recommend film:





cal83dls79
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concordtom said:

cal83dls79 said:

concordtom said:

Cal88 said:

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concordtom said:



We should make tshirts with the formula mocking maga.

Who can come up with a good design?
Separate thread for entrees and judging?

Jeans made in Los Angeles cost 3.5x more than Vietnam.
$60 an hour labor vs $1.50 an hour.

MAGA!!!





When did people sewing jeans in Los Angeles start making $60 per hour? Did you get the number out of your ass? Assuming they are actually legal workers, they'd make about $18-20 per hour.

Add another 30% to that labor cost with the payroll overhead.

Still it is possible to have competitive textile jobs in the US at the higher end, the way Italy does today. Jeans retailing over $100 can be manufactured in the US, $35 jeans from Walmart or Old Navy, not so much.

$18 from Walmart
what in gods name world does he live in? Obviously doesn't own a house or done any sort of business or worked in a real firm and stuff and again. Why do the mods allow such incompetence on this board? I was questioned and edited from a mod "if Maine women had di*ks" and shot back similarly.I guess morons are ok here . Tried to explain screws and lutnick comments, now the A1 sauce from his secretary of education and as a graduate of the greatest public institution in the world now have to withstand this.


Huh?
All I said was jeans can be bought at Walmart for $18, not $35. Maybe Old Navy is $35, but not Walmart - they're real cheap.
my comment wasn't directed at you
sycasey
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Cal88 said:

Cal88 said:

DiabloWags said:

cal83dls79 said:



we were taking about the price of iPhones right? Well the screw robots apparently have that problem solved. His comments have been universally panned as dimwitted.
Here are Lutnick's comments from Face the Nation last week with Margaret Brennan:

"The army of millions and millions of human beings screwing in little screws to make iPhones that kind of thing is going to come to America," Lutnick said.

My mouth dropped to the floor when I heard this INSANITY.
Can't wait for an iPhone 16 Pro that goes for $3,000.

Howard Lutnick says he hopes Trump's tariffs will eliminate China's 'army of millions and millions of human beings screwing in little, little screws to make iPhones' so they can be built in America by robots | Fortune


They will probably cut a special deal for Apple and other VIP firms, otherwise the company will lose a big chunk of its current $3 trillion valuation.

Sure enough.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/12/trump-exempts-phones-computers-chips-tariffs-apple-dell.html
Trump exempts phones, computers, chips from new tariffs


concordtom
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Uhg.
What idiots!!!!

Trump has no idea how to govern effectively.
He's a sham.
chazzed
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DiabloWags
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Pure genius!

SO MUCH WINNING!!!



oski003
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DiabloWags said:

Pure genius!

SO MUCH WINNING!!!






Only morons think that is anywhere near 99% of what we import from China.
cal83dls79
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oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

Pure genius!

SO MUCH WINNING!!!






Only morons think that is anywhere near 99% of what we import from China.
oh gawd. Then there are other morons. You just torpedoed your own premise. Now he's selectively blinking based on his political contributors.
oski003
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cal83dls79 said:

oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

Pure genius!

SO MUCH WINNING!!!






Only morons think that is anywhere near 99% of what we import from China.
oh gawd. Then there are other morons. You just torpedoed your own premise. Now he's selectively blinking based on his political contributors.


Huh??? How did I torpedo my premise by rightly refuting the idiotic statement that 99% of what we buy from China are computers and computer chips?
cal83dls79
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oski003 said:

cal83dls79 said:

oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

Pure genius!

SO MUCH WINNING!!!






Only morons think that is anywhere near 99% of what we import from China.
oh gawd. Then there are other morons. You just torpedoed your own premise. Now he's selectively blinking based on his political contributors.


Huh??? How did I torpedo my premise by rightly refuting the idiotic statement that 99% of what we buy from China are computers and computer chips?
in the sense you were super pro tariffs day 1, day 2 notsomuch and day 3 are super excited about carve outs for major campaign donors..and convince yourself this was part of a master plan. Give me a break . What's the next play? Say it.
oski003
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cal83dls79 said:

oski003 said:

cal83dls79 said:

oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

Pure genius!

SO MUCH WINNING!!!






Only morons think that is anywhere near 99% of what we import from China.
oh gawd. Then there are other morons. You just torpedoed your own premise. Now he's selectively blinking based on his political contributors.


Huh??? How did I torpedo my premise by rightly refuting the idiotic statement that 99% of what we buy from China are computers and computer chips?
in the sense you were super pro tariffs day 1, day 2 notsomuch and day 3 are super excited about carve outs for major campaign donors..and convince yourself this was part of a master plan. Give me a break . What's the next play? Say it.


When did I say or even sound excited about carve outs? I also was never super pro Tarriffs, although I presented a reasonable defense of them while specifically stating multiple times that Trump's were too aggressive. Are you on mind-altering drugs?
cal83dls79
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oski003 said:

cal83dls79 said:

oski003 said:

cal83dls79 said:

oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

Pure genius!

SO MUCH WINNING!!!






Only morons think that is anywhere near 99% of what we import from China.
oh gawd. Then there are other morons. You just torpedoed your own premise. Now he's selectively blinking based on his political contributors.


Huh??? How did I torpedo my premise by rightly refuting the idiotic statement that 99% of what we buy from China are computers and computer chips?
in the sense you were super pro tariffs day 1, day 2 notsomuch and day 3 are super excited about carve outs for major campaign donors..and convince yourself this was part of a master plan. Give me a break . What's the next play? Say it.


When did I say or even sound excited about carve outs? I also was never super pro Tarriffs, although I presented a reasonable defense of them while specifically stating multiple times that Trump's were too aggressive. Are you on mind-altering drugs?

perhaps or you are a shape shifter , methinks the latter. Who knows. You never have an original post but just reply or troll other folks and just make snarky comments constantly. You might be a bot for all I know
movielover
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chazzed said:




Don't forget a biggie:

"In 2024, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) processed over 1.3 billion de minimis shipments, with nearly half likely originating from China. This surge was fueled by the popularity of Chinese e-commerce companies like Temu and Shein, which utilize the de minimis provision to ship low-cost goods to the U.S. This provision allows shipments valued at or under $800 to enter the U.S. duty-free."

No more duty free from Chy-na.
DiabloWags
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cal83dls79 said:



perhaps or you are a shape shifter , methinks the latter. Who knows. You never have an original post but just reply or troll other folks and just make snarky comments constantly. You might be a bot for all I know

Bingo.

He's like a little lost puppy dog that follows you around.
Everywhere you go, everywhere you turn, there he is!


sycasey
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cal83dls79 said:

oski003 said:

cal83dls79 said:

oski003 said:

cal83dls79 said:

oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

Pure genius!

SO MUCH WINNING!!!






Only morons think that is anywhere near 99% of what we import from China.
oh gawd. Then there are other morons. You just torpedoed your own premise. Now he's selectively blinking based on his political contributors.


Huh??? How did I torpedo my premise by rightly refuting the idiotic statement that 99% of what we buy from China are computers and computer chips?
in the sense you were super pro tariffs day 1, day 2 notsomuch and day 3 are super excited about carve outs for major campaign donors..and convince yourself this was part of a master plan. Give me a break . What's the next play? Say it.


When did I say or even sound excited about carve outs? I also was never super pro Tarriffs, although I presented a reasonable defense of them while specifically stating multiple times that Trump's were too aggressive. Are you on mind-altering drugs?

perhaps or you are a shape shifter , methinks the latter. Who knows. You never have an original post but just reply or troll other folks and just make snarky comments constantly. You might be a bot for all I know
oski003 often has defensible opinions when you fully drill down into them, but you can be fooled into thinking he doesn't because of how much energy he spends only criticizing the minor logical inconsistencies of lefties and liberals. That's assuming you are of a left-leaning political persuasion. If not, you probably don't notice because he never goes after you.
oski003
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cal83dls79 said:

oski003 said:

cal83dls79 said:

oski003 said:

cal83dls79 said:

oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

Pure genius!

SO MUCH WINNING!!!






Only morons think that is anywhere near 99% of what we import from China.
oh gawd. Then there are other morons. You just torpedoed your own premise. Now he's selectively blinking based on his political contributors.


Huh??? How did I torpedo my premise by rightly refuting the idiotic statement that 99% of what we buy from China are computers and computer chips?
in the sense you were super pro tariffs day 1, day 2 notsomuch and day 3 are super excited about carve outs for major campaign donors..and convince yourself this was part of a master plan. Give me a break . What's the next play? Say it.


When did I say or even sound excited about carve outs? I also was never super pro Tarriffs, although I presented a reasonable defense of them while specifically stating multiple times that Trump's were too aggressive. Are you on mind-altering drugs?

perhaps or you are a shape shifter , methinks the latter. Who knows. You never have an original post but just reply or troll other folks and just make snarky comments constantly. You might be a bot for all I know


Again, when did I say or even sound excited about carve outs? I also was never super pro Tarriffs, although I presented a reasonable defense of them while specifically stating multiple times that Trump's were too aggressive.
oski003
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DiabloWags said:

cal83dls79 said:



perhaps or you are a shape shifter , methinks the latter. Who knows. You never have an original post but just reply or troll other folks and just make snarky comments constantly. You might be a bot for all I know

Bingo.

He's like a little lost puppy dog that follows you around.
Everywhere you go, everywhere you turn, there he is!





It is cute that you and cal83dls79 found each other, both united by pathological lying and hatred of Trump.
DiabloWags
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Trump on Saturday declined to elaborate on the exemptions beyond the published memoranda but hinted at further developments on Monday.

"I'll give you that answer on Monday. We'll be very specific on Monday," he told reporters on Air Force One. "We're taking in a lot of money; as a country we're taking in a lot of money."

Trump's latest exemptions cover almost $390 billion in US imports based on official US 2024 trade statistics, including more than $101 billion from China, according to data compiled by Gerard DiPippo, associate director of the Rand China Research Center.


DiabloWags
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sycasey said:

. . . but you can be fooled into thinking he doesn't because of how much energy he spends only criticizing the minor logical inconsistencies of lefties and liberals.


Thanks for the laugh.
Im anything but a liberal or lefty.
cal83dls79
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sycasey said:

cal83dls79 said:

oski003 said:

cal83dls79 said:

oski003 said:

cal83dls79 said:

oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

Pure genius!

SO MUCH WINNING!!!






Only morons think that is anywhere near 99% of what we import from China.
oh gawd. Then there are other morons. You just torpedoed your own premise. Now he's selectively blinking based on his political contributors.


Huh??? How did I torpedo my premise by rightly refuting the idiotic statement that 99% of what we buy from China are computers and computer chips?
in the sense you were super pro tariffs day 1, day 2 notsomuch and day 3 are super excited about carve outs for major campaign donors..and convince yourself this was part of a master plan. Give me a break . What's the next play? Say it.


When did I say or even sound excited about carve outs? I also was never super pro Tarriffs, although I presented a reasonable defense of them while specifically stating multiple times that Trump's were too aggressive. Are you on mind-altering drugs?

perhaps or you are a shape shifter , methinks the latter. Who knows. You never have an original post but just reply or troll other folks and just make snarky comments constantly. You might be a bot for all I know
oski003 often has defensible opinions when you fully drill down into them, but you can be fooled into thinking he doesn't because of how much energy he spends only criticizing the minor logical inconsistencies of lefties and liberals. That's assuming you are of a left-leaning political persuasion. If not, you probably don't notice because he never goes after you.
I'll drill into his 13,000 plus posts and get back. His flippant attitude to the Dow crashing and the "moaning" and how we all just need to pull up our bootstraps attitude vis a vis tariffs and at at the same time not admitting this whole tariff plan was a mess is slightly annoying especially considering the irreparable damage it's done to the US. It's 13k posts so it may take a while.
oski003
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cal83dls79 said:

sycasey said:

cal83dls79 said:

oski003 said:

cal83dls79 said:

oski003 said:

cal83dls79 said:

oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

Pure genius!

SO MUCH WINNING!!!






Only morons think that is anywhere near 99% of what we import from China.
oh gawd. Then there are other morons. You just torpedoed your own premise. Now he's selectively blinking based on his political contributors.


Huh??? How did I torpedo my premise by rightly refuting the idiotic statement that 99% of what we buy from China are computers and computer chips?
in the sense you were super pro tariffs day 1, day 2 notsomuch and day 3 are super excited about carve outs for major campaign donors..and convince yourself this was part of a master plan. Give me a break . What's the next play? Say it.


When did I say or even sound excited about carve outs? I also was never super pro Tarriffs, although I presented a reasonable defense of them while specifically stating multiple times that Trump's were too aggressive. Are you on mind-altering drugs?

perhaps or you are a shape shifter , methinks the latter. Who knows. You never have an original post but just reply or troll other folks and just make snarky comments constantly. You might be a bot for all I know
oski003 often has defensible opinions when you fully drill down into them, but you can be fooled into thinking he doesn't because of how much energy he spends only criticizing the minor logical inconsistencies of lefties and liberals. That's assuming you are of a left-leaning political persuasion. If not, you probably don't notice because he never goes after you.
I'll drill into his 13,000 plus posts and get back. His flippant attitude to the Dow crashing and the "moaning" and how we all just need to pull up our bootstraps attitude vis a vis tariffs and at at the same time not admitting this whole tariff plan was a mess is slightly annoying especially considering the irreparable damage it's done to the US. It's 13k posts so it may take a while.


You don't have to go all the back to 2012, but you know that already. You don't have to constantly lie to attempt to prove a point.
cal83dls79
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oski003 said:

cal83dls79 said:

sycasey said:

cal83dls79 said:

oski003 said:

cal83dls79 said:

oski003 said:

cal83dls79 said:

oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

Pure genius!

SO MUCH WINNING!!!






Only morons think that is anywhere near 99% of what we import from China.
oh gawd. Then there are other morons. You just torpedoed your own premise. Now he's selectively blinking based on his political contributors.


Huh??? How did I torpedo my premise by rightly refuting the idiotic statement that 99% of what we buy from China are computers and computer chips?
in the sense you were super pro tariffs day 1, day 2 notsomuch and day 3 are super excited about carve outs for major campaign donors..and convince yourself this was part of a master plan. Give me a break . What's the next play? Say it.


When did I say or even sound excited about carve outs? I also was never super pro Tarriffs, although I presented a reasonable defense of them while specifically stating multiple times that Trump's were too aggressive. Are you on mind-altering drugs?

perhaps or you are a shape shifter , methinks the latter. Who knows. You never have an original post but just reply or troll other folks and just make snarky comments constantly. You might be a bot for all I know
oski003 often has defensible opinions when you fully drill down into them, but you can be fooled into thinking he doesn't because of how much energy he spends only criticizing the minor logical inconsistencies of lefties and liberals. That's assuming you are of a left-leaning political persuasion. If not, you probably don't notice because he never goes after you.
I'll drill into his 13,000 plus posts and get back. His flippant attitude to the Dow crashing and the "moaning" and how we all just need to pull up our bootstraps attitude vis a vis tariffs and at at the same time not admitting this whole tariff plan was a mess is slightly annoying especially considering the irreparable damage it's done to the US. It's 13k posts so it may take a while.


You don't have to go all the back to 2012, but you know that already. You don't have to constantly lie to attempt to prove a point.
ok, I may have lied a little, but not just now. I'll work on my truthiness
DiabloWags
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Idiots.
Lutnick the Loser.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/commerce-secretary-lutnick-tariff-exemptions-electronics-temporary/story?id=120752319

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/13/us/politics/trump-tariffs-china-chips-technology.html


cal83dls79
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Not to name drop here but one of my siblings worked at the same desk with Lutnicks brother at Cantor. I only found this out after blasting Howard recently in our family OT board thread. His brother died in 9/11 and shaped much of my brother's politics and even his kids. Runs deep. I promised to lay off of Howard but also noted some of the whack things the Secretary was out there with to which he replied "he's not an intellectual, he's a trader". Apparently he lost his parents early and Cantor took him under his wing. Needless to say my brother went to lots of funerals. But even my staunch Trump sibling admitted he (Howard) wasn't the brightest bulb.
And here he is again
cal83dls79
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Big day in sports today guys. Take a breath, watch the Masters and the Dubs. I'll pick up lying Monday.
DiabloWags
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cal83dls79 said:

Big day in sports today guys. Take a breath, watch the Masters and the Dubs. I'll pick up lying Monday.


Dubs vs Clippers at 12:30
Go Dubs!
cal83dls79
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DiabloWags said:

cal83dls79 said:

Big day in sports today guys. Take a breath, watch the Masters and the Dubs. I'll pick up lying Monday.


Dubs vs Clippers at 12:30
Go Dubs!

I'm "dub ious". But hopeful. As a cal fan it's not a foreign place. Hopefully Rory doesn't coug
It but it's too close to deem a coug …typically it's a huge blown lead
chazzed
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This genius' books are the reason Trump became obsessed with tariffs.




movielover
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Sunday Talks: Secretary of Commerce outlines purpose of Tariff "exemptions" sector specific Tariffs coming soon

Industries like steel, aluminum, semiconductors, lingerie and pharmaceuticals are of vital national interest.


movielover
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Sunday Talks: Economic Council Director Kevin Hassett explains China and global Tariff distinctions, vs the insufferablly negativeJake Tapper.

oski003
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movielover said:

Sunday Talks: Secretary of Commerce outlines purpose of Tariff "exemptions" sector specific Tariffs coming soon

Industries like steel, aluminum, semiconductors, lingerie and pharmaceuticals are of vital national interest.





Lingerie?
Cal88
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Vital!
cal83dls79
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oski003 said:

movielover said:

Sunday Talks: Secretary of Commerce outlines purpose of Tariff "exemptions" sector specific Tariffs coming soon

Industries like steel, aluminum, semiconductors, lingerie and pharmaceuticals are of vital national interest.





Lingerie?
note how the news guy is obviously confused because he's explaining why industries we want to protect and are of vital interest are excluded from the tariffs . Making this up as they go along it quite interesting
SBGold
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Cal88 said:

Cal88 said:

DiabloWags said:

cal83dls79 said:



we were taking about the price of iPhones right? Well the screw robots apparently have that problem solved. His comments have been universally panned as dimwitted.
Here are Lutnick's comments from Face the Nation last week with Margaret Brennan:

"The army of millions and millions of human beings screwing in little screws to make iPhones that kind of thing is going to come to America," Lutnick said.

My mouth dropped to the floor when I heard this INSANITY.
Can't wait for an iPhone 16 Pro that goes for $3,000.

Howard Lutnick says he hopes Trump's tariffs will eliminate China's 'army of millions and millions of human beings screwing in little, little screws to make iPhones' so they can be built in America by robots | Fortune


They will probably cut a special deal for Apple and other VIP firms, otherwise the company will lose a big chunk of its current $3 trillion valuation.

Sure enough.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/12/trump-exempts-phones-computers-chips-tariffs-apple-dell.html
Trump exempts phones, computers, chips from new tariffs
LOL

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SBGold
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cal83dls79 said:

DiabloWags said:

cal83dls79 said:

Big day in sports today guys. Take a breath, watch the Masters and the Dubs. I'll pick up lying Monday.


Dubs vs Clippers at 12:30
Go Dubs!

I'm "dub ious". But hopeful. As a cal fan it's not a foreign place. Hopefully Rory doesn't coug
It but it's too close to deem a coug …typically it's a huge blown lead
Way to go Kawhi!

VOTE BLUE

Go Bears Forever
 
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