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Top 3 Words describing 25 posts from a Trump poster yesterday:

RUBBISH
GULLIBLE
DELUSIONAL




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DiabloWags said:

Top 3 Words describing 25 posts from a Trump poster yesterday:

RUBBISH
GULLIBLE
DELUSIONAL




This is gullible, delusional rubbish.
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Fox New, Maria Bartiroma

https://www.facebook.com/reel/3793386354130103/?mibextid=CDWPTG
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movielover said:

Fox New, Maria Bartiroma

https://www.facebook.com/reel/3793386354130103/?mibextid=CDWPTG
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cal83dls79 said:

movielover said:

Fox New, Maria Bartiroma

https://www.facebook.com/reel/3793386354130103/?mibextid=CDWPTG

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The GDR went out of business in 1990 and merged with the FRG.
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On tariffs broadly, the goal isn't just protectionist's revenue. As Scott Bessent has noted, a well-structured tariff regime could generate $300 to 600 billion annually, roughly 12% of GDP. That alone wouldn't close a 6% deficit, but it would be a meaningful down payment. It's unconventional, yes. But in a system addicted to debt and allergic to discipline, it may be worth the experiment especially if paired with broader spending restraint and tax reform. Achieving that kind of revenue would likely require an average tariff of 1020% on total imports lower for allies like Mexico and Canada, moderate for most trading partners, and sharply higher for strategic rivals like China.

- @HayekAndKeynes

As of October 20, 2025, approximately 9 months into Donald Trump's second term, the U.S. has collected an estimated $240 to $260 billion in tariff revenue attributable to his administration's policies. This figure is derived from official Treasury and CBP data, adjusted for the sharp increases in tariff rates implemented since inauguration.

- GrokAI
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PAC-10-BEAR said:

On tariffs broadly, the goal isn't just protectionist's revenue. As Scott Bessent has noted, a well-structured tariff regime could generate $300 to 600 billion annually, roughly 12% of GDP. That alone wouldn't close a 6% deficit, but it would be a meaningful down payment. It's unconventional, yes. But in a system addicted to debt and allergic to discipline, it may be worth the experiment especially if paired with broader spending restraint and tax reform. Achieving that kind of revenue would likely require an average tariff of 1020% on total imports lower for allies like Mexico and Canada, moderate for most trading partners, and sharply higher for strategic rivals like China.

- @HayekAndKeynes

As of October 20, 2025, approximately 9 months into Donald Trump's second term, the U.S. has collected an estimated $240 to $260 billion in tariff revenue attributable to his administration's policies. This figure is derived from official Treasury and CBP data, adjusted for the sharp increases in tariff rates implemented since inauguration.

- GrokAI
key phrase "well structured". Tarriffs shrink GDP, or don't add to it and bessent has admitted this. They are a tax and we know this.
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President Trump has said a primary reason for all the investments - they're claiming $17 Trillion - new plants, drug reshoring, car manufacturing, expansion of plants, etc , is bc of the fulcrum of tariffs.
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More farm bailouts. NYT:
"This may seem nonsensical, especially since Mr. Trump already shoveled at least $28 billion to farmers hurt by his first trade war in 2018. But it actually makes perfect sense. It's what happens when Mr. Trump's zero-sum philosophy of trade which is that there are always winners and losers, and he should get to choose the winners collides with Washington's sycophantic approach to agriculture, which ensures that farmers always win and taxpayers always lose. In the end, Mr. Trump's allies, including President Javier Milei of Argentina and the politically influential agricultural community, will get paid, and you will pay.l
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Too Little too late Sue.
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cal83dls79 said:

Too Little too late Sue.

I'll go with Animal House to answer this.

"You trusted them. You f'ed up."
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movielover said:

President Trump has said a primary reason for all the investments - they're claiming $17 Trillion - new plants, drug reshoring, car manufacturing, expansion of plants, etc , is bc of the fulcrum of tariffs.


Why would anyone believe this crap?
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PAC-10-BEAR said:

On tariffs broadly, the goal isn't just protectionist's revenue. As Scott Bessent has noted, a well-structured tariff regime could generate $300 to 600 billion annually, roughly 12% of GDP. That alone wouldn't close a 6% deficit, but it would be a meaningful down payment. It's unconventional, yes. But in a system addicted to debt and allergic to discipline, it may be worth the experiment especially if paired with broader spending restraint and tax reform. Achieving that kind of revenue would likely require an average tariff of 1020% on total imports lower for allies like Mexico and Canada, moderate for most trading partners, and sharply higher for strategic rivals like China.

- @HayekAndKeynes

As of October 20, 2025, approximately 9 months into Donald Trump's second term, the U.S. has collected an estimated $240 to $260 billion in tariff revenue attributable to his administration's policies. This figure is derived from official Treasury and CBP data, adjusted for the sharp increases in tariff rates implemented since inauguration.

- GrokAI


Guess who has paid roughly 65% of those tariffs?
Take one guess.
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bearister said:




One of the greatest movies of all time.
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BearlySane88 said:

bearister said:




One of the greatest movies of all time.




Otter (Tim Matheson), in his role as Officer Phil Sweet in Magnum Force, was a dead ringer for Doug Schmidt, Dan White's defense attorney in the City Hall assassinations.
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DiabloWags said:

movielover said:

President Trump has said a primary reason for all the investments - they're claiming $17 Trillion - new plants, drug reshoring, car manufacturing, expansion of plants, etc , is bc of the fulcrum of tariffs.


Why would anyone believe this crap?



Your ilk suggested a man who couldn't find his way off a stage was running the country.
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Beat the Blue Jays. Beat Canada.
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PAC-10-BEAR said:


Beat the Blue Jays. Beat Canada.

So much for free speech. I guess you're only allowed to use edited remarks if you agree with Trump. Or if you're James O'Keefe.
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PAC-10-BEAR said:


Beat the Blue Jays. Beat Canada.
don't bring sports into politics!
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PAC-10-BEAR said:


Beat the Blue Jays. Beat Canada.

Post this in The Censorship Thread, please.
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Upcoming trade agreement will be signed by President Trump and Chairman Xi at the upcoming meeting in South Korea.

Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent made the legacy media rounds this Sunday saying that he and his Chinese negotiating counterpart had reached an agreement on export controls for rare earth minerals, abd that would lead to the United States not imposing 100 percent tariffs on China.
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BEAT LA. BEAT THE DODGERS
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sonofabear51 said:

BEAT LA. BEAT THE DODGERS

What are you? Some kind of Canadian socialist commie?
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It probably went something like this:

Xi: "There are a couple of things that you should take into consideration before our tariff negotiations."

Trump: "Maybe. Like what?"

Xi: "Oh, like think "Off switch."


Navy loses two aircraft from USS Nimitz aircraft carrier | AP News https://apnews.com/article/navy-nimitz-aircraft-carrier-crashes-8afee8488bd39371350fe0a1dd55374d


Chinese F-35 Part Shows the Pentagon Needs To Fix Its Supply Chain Visibility Problem | The Heritage Foundation https://www.heritage.org/defense/commentary/chinese-f-35-part-shows-the-pentagon-needs-fix-its-supply-chain-visibility
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More failures from our fat-cat-4-star Generals. Time for RIFs.
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"The reliance of U.S. fighter jet manufacturers on Chinese-sourced parts is a result of decades of globalized supply chains driven by cost-saving measures, combined with the hollowing out of America's own domestic manufacturing base.
This has created deep and complex supply chains that are often opaque, making it difficult for defense contractors and the Pentagon to know the ultimate origin of every component.

Key factors that created this situation include:
Decades of globalization.
American industries, including defense, have outsourced manufacturing to reduce costs for decades. The focus on cost over supply-chain security has left the defense industrial base vulnerable to disruptions and foreign influence.

The decline of domestic manufacturing. Over time, critical segments of U.S. manufacturing including the production of rare earth minerals, specialty metals, and microelectronics have moved offshore. Many domestic industries that once supplied the defense sector no longer have the capacity to do so on a large scale.

Dependence on rare earth minerals.The manufacturing of advanced weapons systems requires rare earth elements, which are vital for components like advanced magnets, radar, and missile guidance systems. China dominates the global supply chain for these minerals, and U.S. domestic production is insufficient.

Complex subcontractor networks. The U.S. defense supply chain involves hundreds of thousands of suppliers in multiple tiers. A primary U.S. contractor may use a domestic subcontractor, but that subcontractor may then source materials or parts from China. This complexity makes it extremely challenging to track the origin of every component.

Limited oversight. Until recently, the U.S. government had limited visibility into the lowest tiers of its defense supply chain. Federal contractors were not contractually required to disclose the country of origin for all components, and government databases intended to flag foreign parts were often incomplete.

The F-35 case study
The risks associated with this dependency were highlighted in 2022 when the Pentagon halted F-35 deliveries. The pause occurred after it was discovered that an alloy in a magnet used in the fighter jet's engine came from China.

The component: The magnet was part of a turbomachine pump manufactured by Honeywell for the jet's engine.

The discovery: Lockheed Martin, the prime contractor, discovered the issue and voluntarily reported the violation of defense acquisition rules.

The result:While the Pentagon determined the component posed no flight risk and granted a waiver to allow deliveries to resume, the incident exposed a major supply-chain vulnerability. It demonstrated how Chinese-sourced materials could end up in even the most sensitive U.S. military hardware through indirect channels.

Government response and outlook
Following high-profile incidents like the F-35 issue and reports from oversight bodies like the Government Accountability Office (GAO), the Department of Defense has recognized its dangerous dependency and has taken action.
Efforts to increase oversight and tighten regulations are underway to prevent foreign components from entering the supply chain.

Legislative action, like the CHIPS Act, aims to incentivize domestic manufacturing and reduce reliance on foreign-produced microelectronics and materials.

Shifting focus: The U.S. is beginning to prioritize supply chain security over pure cost efficiency, but reversing decades of globalization is a complex, long-term challenge. "
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