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We know Massie supported DeSantis from the very beginning and votes a like a Democrat at times but I hope he succeeds.

I also wonder, where was all this energy the last 4 years? Epstein didn't happen in 2025.

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Where was it under Trump term #1? That's when Epstein happened.

WHAT'S IN THE F ' NG BINDER?

UNITY OVER DIVISION

VOTE BLUE

Go Bears Forever

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Speaking of the DailyMail, Jeffrey Epstein visited the White House at least 17 times during Bill Clinton's first term between 1993 and 1995, according to visitor logs obtained by the Daily Mail. These visits occurred on 14 separate days, with Epstein making two visits in a single day on three occasions. The majority of these visits were to the West Wing, suggesting meetings with high-level officials, potentially including Clinton himself.

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No way! Thank you for the new information!

Was this in Binder release -20?

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Good morning EspteinOski! Like I said before, call your representative and senators and find out!

BREAKING: Senate Democrats objected to approving a resolution calling for the release of Epstein grand jury transcripts.

— Leading Report (@LeadingReport) July 24, 2025

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I don't understand why you're not capable of calling the creeps out all over the political spectrum. I've NEVER maintained that Epstein was some looney conspiracy, so you can go ahead and remove that bullet from the chamber before shooting it off.

Any of these *******s should be exposed and held accountable. It's not that difficult.

They need to fulfill the implied promise and release the files. There is literally NOTHING stopping them from doing so except for their own decisions, which from the outside sure seem nefarious. Don't split hairs and dance around this over whether an actual blood oath "promise" was made. We all know what the inferred outcome was to be.

Stop defending the non-disclosure of information that you sure seemed to be in full support of being released in post #1 of this thread. That is, unless the you that made that post was being a giant phony. If that's the case, carry on with what you're doing, BinderBoy. However, actively saying the admin should run cover for pedos by not delivering impartially here is not a good look.

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If democrats were affiliated with the crimes that Epstein committed then they should be punished. Let me hear you say the same things about Republicans, I'll wait.

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If Republicans were affiliated with the crimes that Epstein committed then they should be punished. Let me hear you say Bill Clinton is a pedophile, I'll wait.

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If Bill slept with underage girls then he should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. See how easy that was?

You're so gullible.
You're reading comprehension continues to be as poor as our mascots.

There's no way you ever got into CAL.

MULLIN ONLY WANTS TO ALLOW JUDGES TO GET THE FILES. NOT CONGRESS

Sen. Markwayne Mullin objects to Sen. Ruben Gallego's request to release Epstein files

Markwayne Mullin Blocking Epstein Release to 'Cover' Trump


This time around, however, Mullin explicitly said he was trying to "give him cover" referring to President Donald Trump, who the Oklahoma Republican argued would be unfairly attacked by members of Congress if they got hold of the files.


GOP Senator Mullin said:

Well, I'm sure Congress has never once played politics with any information. I'm sure that this investigation will be handled much like other investigations into this administration that the Democrats have done over the last, I don't know, eight years?

I'm sure this would be handled just like any other thing that they've tried to go after, like the baseless impeachments, or the baseless special counsels, or the unbelievable amount of charges they've tried to file against the president. I'm sure this would be handled the exact same way. What we're simply wanting to do here is give him cover.

So if my colleague from Arizona actually wants transparency, then he would drop his objection to my resolution and just simply have mine go through, and we can move forward with the transparency that maybe both of us actually want. So therefore I object to combining them. I would ask my colleague once again to accept my resolution.

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bear2034 said:

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We know Massie supported DeSantis from the very beginning and votes a like a Democrat at times but I hope he succeeds.

I also wonder, where was all this energy the last 4 years? Epstein didn't happen in 2025.

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Where was it under Trump term #1? That's when Epstein happened.

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In Trump's first term, you said Epstein was another right wing conspiracy. Why the flip flop?

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I don't believe I said that. Unlike MAGAts, I don't usually fall for conspiracy talk.

UNITY OVER DIVISION

VOTE BLUE

Go Bears Forever

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If democrats were affiliated with the crimes that Epstein committed then they should be punished. Let me hear you say the same things about Republicans, I'll wait.

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If Republicans were affiliated with the crimes that Epstein committed then they should be punished. Let me hear you say Bill Clinton is a pedophile, I'll wait.

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Isn't this one easy? Any Rep or Dem that is affiliated or guilty should be published.

If Clinton is in there (and it sure sounds like he is), let the court of law and public opinion take him to the cleaners.

Of course, a lot of people will have to get rid of their Clinton hats, Clinton shirts, golden Clinton shoes, Clinton bibles, Clinton cell phones, Clinton university diplomas, Clinton leftover frozen steaks and of course disown any Clinton NFTs/meme coins. It may be embarrassing for those people to get rid of those Clinton items publicly as he's a politician, but it's what they're going to have to do. Of course, nobody is going to forget who wore all that Clinton stuff like a bunch of marks, but them's the breaks.

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If democrats were affiliated with the crimes that Epstein committed then they should be punished. Let me hear you say the same things about Republicans, I'll wait.

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If Republicans were affiliated with the crimes that Epstein committed then they should be punished. Let me hear you say Bill Clinton is a pedophile, I'll wait.

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If Bill slept with underage girls then he should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. See how easy that was?

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Yeah. If Clinton, or Trump, or JFK or anyone else was doing underaged victims of sex-trafficking, then let the chips fall where they may for them.

However, I'm already assuming that they all did some bad s*** in that area and that's already baked into my opinion of them. I also don't think digging this stuff up and finding out who did what decades ago should be our top priority as a nation, but if it happens, it happens and that's fine. Good, even.

Now, some may ask me, "Big C, what if your 13 year old daughter was a victim?" Well, then I'd want to tear the perp apart with my bare hands, but if it happened decades ago, I still wouldn't think it should be one of our top priorities as a nation.

"Pedophilia (alternatively spelled paedophilia) is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children.[1][2]: vii Although girls typically begin the process of puberty at age 10 or 11, and boys at age 11 or 12,[3] psychiatric diagnostic criteria for pedophilia extend the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13." Wikipedia

Do I think either Bill Clinton or Trump is a pedophile? I severally doubt it.

Do I think anyone that hung out with Epstein and hitched a ride on the Lolita Express could be a statutory rapist? Sure.

Do I view one statutory rapist being different from another based on political affiliation? No.



*The criminal statute of limitations has probably long since run, as has the statute of limitations for a civil wrong absent the passing of a statute that lifts the bar of the civil statute of limitations for a window period within which to file previously barred claims (this has happened twice in California to nail The Church).
Lifting the bar of the criminal statute of limitations has been deemed unconstitutional in California. Without researching it, I wouldn't know the law of the state that would have jurisdiction over Trump and Bubba in this matter.

Breaking:

Todd Blanche will resume a second day of interviewing Ghislane Maxwell tomorrow.

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Breaking:

Todd Blanche will resume a second day of interviewing Ghislane Maxwell tomorrow.

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Gathering everything Trump needs for the quid pro quo.

bear2034 said:

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We know Massie supported DeSantis from the very beginning and votes a like a Democrat at times but I hope he succeeds.

I also wonder, where was all this energy the last 4 years? Epstein didn't happen in 2025.

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it did take a while, but thanks to your original post the importance of the issue has never been forgotten by the BI community.

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I've NEVER maintained that Epstein was some looney conspiracy, so you can go ahead and remove that bullet from the chamber before shooting it off.

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oh really?

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Yes, really!

You can search my post history.

It'll be easy for you to do and will only take a minute, too! You see, unlike you, I've only had one account here on BI, so you wouldn't need to pull up a list of screen names longer than a Dostoyevsky novel to search through.

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Breaking:

Todd Blanche will resume a second day of interviewing Ghislane Maxwell tomorrow.

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Gathering everything Trump needs for the quid pro quo.

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The fact that these interviews are being conducted at the U.S. Attorney's Office (and not the Prison) by Todd Blanche ( who represented Trump in the 2024 criminal trial in NYC) tells you that Trump is most interested in controlling the "narrative" and act like he's doing "something" for his MAGA base.

If Maxwell had anything of "value", it would have come out in her trial 5 years ago with Prosecutors.

Release the FILES.

2010 deposition:

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If democrats were affiliated with the crimes that Epstein committed then they should be punished. Let me hear you say the same things about Republicans, I'll wait.

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If Republicans were affiliated with the crimes that Epstein committed then they should be punished. Let me hear you say Bill Clinton is a pedophile, I'll wait.

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If Bill slept with underage girls then he should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. See how easy that was?

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Yeah. If Clinton, or Trump, or JFK or anyone else was doing underaged victims of sex-trafficking, then let the chips fall where they may for them.

However, I'm already assuming that they all did some bad s*** in that area and that's already baked into my opinion of them. I also don't think digging this stuff up and finding out who did what decades ago should be our top priority as a nation, but if it happens, it happens and that's fine. Good, even.

Now, some may ask me, "Big C, what if your 13 year old daughter was a victim?" Well, then I'd want to tear the perp apart with my bare hands, but if it happened decades ago, I still wouldn't think it should be one of our top priorities as a nation.

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Uh, excuse me.
You should want to tear this creep apart with your bare hands for what he's done to this nation in the last ten years, what he's doing to this nation currently, and what he's going to do to it in the next ten years.

We are ALL victims.

Ive been out of town.
Has Trump pardoned Maxwell yet?

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Ive been out of town.
Has Trump pardoned Maxwell yet?

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Didn't you mean to ask: "is G Maxwell dead yet?"

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If democrats were affiliated with the crimes that Epstein committed then they should be punished. Let me hear you say the same things about Republicans, I'll wait.

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If Republicans were affiliated with the crimes that Epstein committed then they should be punished. Let me hear you say Bill Clinton is a pedophile, I'll wait.

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If Bill slept with underage girls then he should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. See how easy that was?

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Yeah. If Clinton, or Trump, or JFK or anyone else was doing underaged victims of sex-trafficking, then let the chips fall where they may for them.

However, I'm already assuming that they all did some bad s*** in that area and that's already baked into my opinion of them. I also don't think digging this stuff up and finding out who did what decades ago should be our top priority as a nation, but if it happens, it happens and that's fine. Good, even.

Now, some may ask me, "Big C, what if your 13 year old daughter was a victim?" Well, then I'd want to tear the perp apart with my bare hands, but if it happened decades ago, I still wouldn't think it should be one of our top priorities as a nation.

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Uh, excuse me.
You should want to tear this creep apart with your bare hands for what he's done to this nation in the last ten years, what he's doing to this nation currently, and what he's going to do to it in the next ten years.

We are ALL victims.

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Are you talking about Trump? I hope he suffers the same fate as Mussolini, but I'm not gonna be involved myself.