Was kirk a racist or not ?

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bearister said:

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Guess what, you're both. You are filled with hate. Bless your soul and I hope you find peace. It must really suck being filled with some much hate all the time


I think you mean that about as much as Holy Hubert meant his blessing of the hippies he was debating in Sproul Plaza in the early 1970's. I watched his show coming back from a class many times.






Nope I mean it with my whole heart. I wish everyone the best, regardless of who or what they are. I hope you figure out what's making you so angry and get past it.
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going4roses said:

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dajo9 said:

going4roses said:

Why ? Or Why not ?


Yes Kirk was a racist. His questioning of the qualifications of black workers make that clear.


Faulty assumption. I interpret that comment as DEI putting unqualified people in places they don't safely belong.


Look up how many black people love him


Choose kindness.







Terrence is paid by racist whites and their supporters to spew racist rhetoric from a Black face. He is an agent working for the dark side. He has embraced his capitulation to get good boy pets on the head of persons that simply use him proximity to whiteness/ desire to be white is his mental illness

There is a saying "tokens get spent"

He is paid well to hate himself and anyone that looks like him He is a sellout he is a prime example of meritorious manumission

Anyone that uses their words or props them up are nothing more than disingenuous racist


My goodness. Yes just because he doesn't follow the leader, he's a sellout? You're pathetic
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going4roses said:

I didn't call him an Uncle Tom … but you did lol


You did bro, you did
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going4roses said:

Here we go slandering the Ministers name for the benefit of a racist narrative or talking point.

You didn't follow him nor the NOI so you need to shut the **** up.
He hated all that were responsible for the condition of the Black community in both parties because clearly neither party has made or even allowed any tangible changes to the Black community. So disingenuous so racist of you , acting as if like he praised conservatives gtfoh he never did both the democrats and republicans have been complicit in the destruction of the Black community.
Here is a list of wrongs show me where any republican has fought against it or proposed to change/ redressing of harm done ( still till this day ) if not I'll say again stfu

Systemic racism doesn't have political party it is interwoven within America's foundation



All your talking points are racist or bigoted. You slander in every post you make. Get over yourself and find peace.
going4roses
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Thought so you got nothing at all lol
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BearlySane88
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Oh no don't get it confused, I didn't read it beyond the first sentence. Couldn't get past your hypocrisy
going4roses
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Nope he chose to fully capitulate for the appeasement of massa …

I am the resident expert here , he is a prime example of meritorious manumission meaning he sold his soul for the proximity to whiteness. He hates himself. He is an agent
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going4roses
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You are a very funny guy
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BearlySane88
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going4roses said:

Nope he chose to fully capitulate for the appeasement of massa …

I am the resident expert here , he is a prime example of meritorious manumission meaning he sold his soul for the proximity to whiteness. He hates himself. He is an agent


You're an expert of nothing that I've seen. You're the resident shill, trying to say a race is forced to vote a certain way and if they don't they are just doing it to look good to whites. You're quite literally a racist. Using the system to try to keep people pigeon holed into a certain category. You're doing the work of the master and holding others down for them.
going4roses
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Of course someone that doesn't get it would say I am not an expert… how pompous of you I have ethnographic experience I have done qualitative and quantitative analysis. I have been acknowledged by academics who know what I speak of are factual statements that have and can be proven. Just admit it I know your type ,just be truthful for once in your life it's ok if you have racist ways/tendencies you are supposed to. Just don't lie about it.
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dajo9 said:

going4roses said:

Why ? Or Why not ?


Yes Kirk was a racist. His questioning of the qualifications of black workers make that clear.

There you have it. If Dajo, Bearister and Concord call someone a racist, they must be racist! come on folks, we've all read these lefties' posts. All three are FOS!
sycasey
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From what I can tell, I don't think I would say Kirk was specifically racist against Black people, though he was highly inflammatory in his statements about affirmative action or DEI or whatever and walked right up to the line while criticizing those things (purposely, I suspect).

I think he probably was racist (or prejudiced, or whatever you prefer) against Muslims. I also suspect several of our conservative posters here agree with him on this.



https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/hellhole-uk-stolen-elections-south-korea-charlie-kirk-took-message-abroad
Quote:

Foreign residents and supporters of mass migration were, he claimed, "very quietly and secretly funnelling themselves into Japanese life. They want to erase, replace and eradicate Japan by bringing in Indonesians, by bringing in Arabs, by bringing in Muslims".

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He claimed he had seen a cafe in which "every single table was taken by a Mohammedan and a fully burqa-wearing woman not a single native Brit" and that people were being arrested for online posts that displayed no apparent harmful intent.

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going4roses said:

Of course someone that doesn't get it would say I am not an expert… how pompous of you I have ethnographic experience I have done qualitative and quantitative analysis. I have been acknowledged by academics who know what I speak of are factual statements that have and can be proven. Just admit it I know your type ,just be truthful for once in your life it's ok if you have racist ways/tendencies you are supposed to. Just don't lie about it.


I'm Pompous? Oh boy that's rich. You're the only racist I've seen in this thread. You're the only one telling people what they can and can't believe based on race. You sir, are as much the problem as white supremacists.
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kelly09 said:

dajo9 said:

going4roses said:

Why ? Or Why not ?


Yes Kirk was a racist. His questioning of the qualifications of black workers make that clear.

There you have it. If Dajo, Bearister and Concord call someone a racist, they must be racist! come on folks, we've all read these lefties' posts. All three are FOS!


At least sycasey tries to see both sides. Those three and Diablowig are as delusional as it gets and are exactly the type of people that are dividing the country. Most right wing and left wing people can see eye to eye and meet in the middle. The absolutists mentioned above cannot. Or will not. I think it's half for show at this point, they know if they don't double down then they might actually have to look at facts instead of making claims like black people aren't black unless they vote for dems.
going4roses
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Slowly
Listen closely
I can not be racist
It is impossible
Just say you have no clue what racism is and how it works or you are just lying

In order to be a racist a person that looks like me has to have history of building and maintaining systems that systematically destroy/under/ oppress and / suppress

Of the list below name one I have ( my people ) have had power over yours for hundreds of years ( and deny )
Name one !!! A single one

You can't because why ? I am not and cannot be racist
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BearlySane88
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going4roses said:

Slowly
Listen closely
I can not be racist
It is impossible
Just say you have no clue what racism is and how it works or you are just lying

In order to be a racist a person that looks like me has to have history of building and maintaining systems that systematically destroy/under/ oppress and / suppress

Of the list below name one I have ( my people ) have had power over yours for hundreds of years ( and deny )
Name one !!! A single one

You can't because why ? I am not and cannot be racist



I love that you think you speak for all people that look like you. Call it what you want then if you want to play that game. You're a close minded bigot. You have hate in your heart. You're a moron and you don't speak for anyone but yourself. Keep the rest of us out your damn mouth. Stay in your closed off circle of thought and that's where you will always remain. Maybe try listening sometime because you sure talk a lot and say very little of value
BearlySane88
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And just to be clear, you are a racist by definition


going4roses
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Knock it off … answer my clear question or nip it look up my profile you are late around these parts
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bearister
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"I love that you think you speak for all people that look like you."



"As a gamblin' degenerate, I'm wagering my funds on the accuracy of a Black man speaking for Black people over a White MAGA speaking for Black people or a Black man designated by White MAGAs to speak for Black people."
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going4roses
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Answer the question.

Or you can't answer the simple question because you know you can not
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kelly09 said:

dajo9 said:

going4roses said:

Why ? Or Why not ?


Yes Kirk was a racist. His questioning of the qualifications of black workers make that clear.

There you have it. If Dajo, Bearister and Concord call someone a racist, they must be racist! come on folks, we've all read these lefties' posts. All three are FOS!


Yes, CHARLIE KIRK WAS A RACIST.

His own words makes that clear.

"Happening all the time in urban America. Prowling blacks go around for fun targeting white people. That's a fact!"

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bearister said:

"I love that you think you speak for all people that look like you."



"As a gamblin' degenerate, I'm wagering my funds on the accuracy of a Black man speaking for Black people over a White MAGA speaking for Black people or a Black man designated by White MAGAs to speak for Black people."


You have no idea what my skin color is buddy but nice try. I love how riled up the left gets when a minority doesn't automatically line up with them.

Who is the racist really when you demonize someone for disagreeing with you, solely based on their skin color? That my friend, is you
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going4roses said:

Answer the question.

Or you can't answer the simple question because you know you can not


Not gonna answer your question that is built off a false statement to begin with.
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DiabloWags said:

kelly09 said:

dajo9 said:

going4roses said:

Why ? Or Why not ?


Yes Kirk was a racist. His questioning of the qualifications of black workers make that clear.

There you have it. If Dajo, Bearister and Concord call someone a racist, they must be racist! come on folks, we've all read these lefties' posts. All three are FOS!


Yes, CHARLIE KIRK WAS A RACIST.

His own words makes that clear.

"Happening all the time in urban America. Prowling blacks go around for fun targeting white people. That's a fact!"

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Where is that racist? There have, in fact, been groups of black individuals attacking white people for being white.
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BearlySane88 said:

going4roses said:

Answer the question.

Or you can't answer the simple question because you know you can not


Not gonna answer your question that is built off a false statement to begin with.


Exactly, you won't answer because you know the truth…

You do know the truth will set you free
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going4roses
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BearlySane88 said:

DiabloWags said:

kelly09 said:

dajo9 said:

going4roses said:

Why ? Or Why not ?


Yes Kirk was a racist. His questioning of the qualifications of black workers make that clear.

There you have it. If Dajo, Bearister and Concord call someone a racist, they must be racist! come on folks, we've all read these lefties' posts. All three are FOS!


Yes, CHARLIE KIRK WAS A RACIST.

His own words makes that clear.

"Happening all the time in urban America. Prowling blacks go around for fun targeting white people. That's a fact!"

Post by @adamparkhomenko.bsky.social Bluesky



Where is that racist? There have, in fact, been groups of black individuals attacking white people for being white.


More bigotry more racism coming straight from your mouth or arse
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going4roses said:

BearlySane88 said:

going4roses said:

Answer the question.

Or you can't answer the simple question because you know you can not


Not gonna answer your question that is built off a false statement to begin with.


Exactly, you won't answer because you know the truth…

You do know the truth will set you free


Can you read? I told you why I won't answer your question. Feel free to go back and reread if necessary
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going4roses said:

BearlySane88 said:

DiabloWags said:

kelly09 said:

dajo9 said:

going4roses said:

Why ? Or Why not ?


Yes Kirk was a racist. His questioning of the qualifications of black workers make that clear.

There you have it. If Dajo, Bearister and Concord call someone a racist, they must be racist! come on folks, we've all read these lefties' posts. All three are FOS!


Yes, CHARLIE KIRK WAS A RACIST.

His own words makes that clear.

"Happening all the time in urban America. Prowling blacks go around for fun targeting white people. That's a fact!"

Post by @adamparkhomenko.bsky.social Bluesky



Where is that racist? There have, in fact, been groups of black individuals attacking white people for being white.


More bigotry more racism coming straight from your mouth or arse


lol choosing to be blind isn't really a valid argument these days. Have there been white groups attacking blacks, sadly yes. Have there been black groups attacking whites, sadly yes.

Not sure how any of that is racist or bigoted but go ahead and make yourself feel better by throwing out more buzz words. Maybe one will actually work for ya


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Off with the racist lying bigoted sock puppets you go.

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going4roses said:

Off with racist lying bigoted sock puppets you go.

Toodles


Yes that's accurate to everything you post here. Bless your heart.

Sorry to burst your bubble, get used to me buddy
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Lot of stereotyping in this thread.



Not to mention some of the usual Trump Derangement Syndrome. Trump is basically a bitter old guy who insults everyone regardless of race, creed, or any other grouping Hilary Clinton could come-up with. There are blacks, Hispanics, legal, gay people, legal and illegal immigrants, Arabs, Jews, veterans, men, women, POWs, Jed Bush's and Ted Cruz's wives, the disabled, celebs such as Taylor Swift, Iowans (e.g., people from Iowa) and many other states, the French (maybe deserved), journalists, business executives, etc. If you are in a group he has not insulted yet, just wait a few minutes. Trump basically objects to so many different people and groups, he is a universal bigot. He dislikes everyone. That fact that he is President twice probably says something about the candidates that opposed him.

The problem with Kirk was that he was a smart, likable and young, and debated people at colleges. He even went to centers of liberal elitism where it wasn't cool to be conservative. He was a big deal to the discussion on campuses of important issues that are forbidden in PC schools, and students of various political views approved of his voice being heard, even when they didn't like what he said. To their credit they are angry that he was shot, and what that meant.

A whole generation gets their news or gets more informed through podcasters, influencers and similar folks. Ask your kids of relevant age if Kirk was a big deal for their generation? He was considered approachable in a way that most politicians are not, and was not afraid to have an honest debate with those he disagreed with, and college kids, more sturdy that we think, appreciated that.


His goal seemed to be to make college campuses more friendly to conservative students by making conservative ideas like free market economics and traditional gender roles more popular. This philosophy also has to do with not feeling a need to apologize for one's identity. A big divide between liberals and conservatives is how they explain disadvantage. It is issue that should be discussed and it is not, especially by you adults. And all so far so good.

But at some point Charlie was becoming what one magazine called "a social and cultural identity that was ends transforming campuses and Gen Z." He needed to be better than Trump with his language. Instead, he said a lot of controversial, offensive, in many cases bigoted things. Controversial and even offensive is okay, but hating on some groups of people or individuals for clicks isn't. And the thing is he didn't need to go there with the following he had. I'm attacking the man with words, not bullets. But Kirk should have been better than that.

Was he personally a bigot? I don't know. There are now stories coming out about getting black artists into the White House and black and gay celebs saying he wasn't a bigot. Maybe on a personal level he wasn't. I already said my piece on his some of the things he said.
ACC Bear
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I think you can make a convincing argument here that what Charlie Kirk said in the first 40 seconds of this video is racist.



However, it's not the part that everyone is misquoting him on (also the part that got Washington Post opinion columnist Karen Attiah fired for intentionally misquoting him).

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Officer Tatum was talking to going4roses.
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ACC Bear said:

I think you can make a convincing argument here that what Charlie Kirk said in the first 40 seconds of this video is racist.




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