Soccer Topics: No goalies in the USA

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sluggo
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OneKeg said:

Not sure when the USMNT plays next (CONCACAF Nations' League in September?).

But I was curious on how the roster and starting lineup is likely to evolve in the short term, understanding that there are longer-term prospects like Gozo on the horizon for 2030 and that some of the top-line players may not play when it's not a big tournament or if they are injured.

But let's pretend the US had to play in a critical match later in 2026 and everyone is healthy and available. For example, does Trusty replace Ream alongside Richards at center back? (Or perhaps move Freeman inside?)

I think it is hard to say. September is early in the European season and even if it is during an international break (meaning the players don't miss a league game), our top players need to fight for their spots.

I think Trusty for Ream is going to be an immediate change as Ream (hopefully) retires from international play. I think Gozo is the next player to get integrated, he should have been there for the Cup. Adri Mehmeti (17, ball distributing center mid) and Julian Hall (18, striker) both from Red Bull NYC are two other players who might join soon. I am curious what will happen with the goalkeeping situation, no predictions there.

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MLS commissioner Don Garber will be replaced next year. Garber is only the second commissioner of the league and has served since 1999. On the business side he has done great. On making the soccer good he has been bad. In terms of the USMNT, which is what I care about, he has been a disaster. I will say more about that later.

https://www.foxsports.com/articles/soccer/search-for-mls-commissioner-don-garbers-successor-reportedly-down-to-three-finalists
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Aunburdened said:

sluggo said:

sycasey said:

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Big C said:

As I continue my learning journey, let me ask the following:

Obviously, England was bunkering (turtleing, whatever) and obviously, it didn't work.

What specifically should they have been doing so that Argentina wasn't able to camp on their side of the field taking shots and initiating crosses until two balls finally went into the net?

Seems quite analogous to sticking with a prevent defense and an ultra-conservative offense in American football, in which case I could answer this myself... but help me out with soccer.

Unfortunately Cal fans who lived through Wilcox should be all too familiar with that.

I was going to talk about Wilcox, but I did not want to alienate anyone, but since you did first, I think England lost in a very Wilcoxian way. Losing is fine but losing passively feels ten times worse.

It was basically us taking a lead because of Mendoza's passing and then taking the ball out of his hands for most of the 4th quarter while the opponent grinds us down. So like the Miami game or the Pitt game or . . . sigh.

The "..." says it all. Too many to count. I know Tosh will lose sometimes, that is part of competition, but it will be because Cal was beaten, not because Cal laid down. I used to talk about how Wilcox managed losses. Like we were going to lose without taking chances, but we might lose worse if we took those chances, so we didn't. F*** that.


Wanted to take the opportunity to say that although we had different opinions on how far the US team could go in the tournament, I've enjoyed your posts and your enthusiasm. Good stuff.

Thanks man. Fine to disagree. I can't remember if I was more optimistic or pessimistic than you. I think I got things about right although I don't remember exactly what I said.
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This is pretty interesting, reffing a WC final is usually a huge privilege granted to the very best referee in the world who is not from either country playing...


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OneKeg said:

Not sure when the USMNT plays next (CONCACAF Nations' League in September?).

But I was curious on how the roster and starting lineup is likely to evolve in the short term, understanding that there are longer-term prospects like Gozo on the horizon for 2030 and that some of the top-line players may not play when it's not a big tournament or if they are injured.

But let's pretend the US had to play in a critical match later in 2026 and everyone is healthy and available. For example, does Trusty replace Ream alongside Richards at center back? (Or perhaps move Freeman inside?)

Probably others have already answered this, but I would say the first order of business is "who is the coach going to be going forward?" Pochettino has been linked to other professional jobs.

But yes, you are asking the right questions. I would think Tim Ream has played close to his last matches. There might be some swan song, goodbye games, or maybe it's just the women that do that!
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concordtom said:

OneKeg said:

Not sure when the USMNT plays next (CONCACAF Nations' League in September?).

But I was curious on how the roster and starting lineup is likely to evolve in the short term, understanding that there are longer-term prospects like Gozo on the horizon for 2030 and that some of the top-line players may not play when it's not a big tournament or if they are injured.

But let's pretend the US had to play in a critical match later in 2026 and everyone is healthy and available. For example, does Trusty replace Ream alongside Richards at center back? (Or perhaps move Freeman inside?)

Probably others have already answered this, but I would say the first order of business is "who is the coach going to be going forward?" Pochettino has been linked to other professional jobs.

But yes, you are asking the right questions. I would think Tim Ream has played close to his last matches. There might be some swan song, goodbye games, or maybe it's just the women that do that!

Poch has said his decision will be made by next week. For the next couple years what is mostly needed is for players to get better playing for their clubs.
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Cal88 said:

This is pretty interesting, reffing a WC final is usually a huge privilege granted to the very best referee in the world who is not from either country playing...





Yikes!!!!
oski003
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Cal88 said:

This is pretty interesting, reffing a WC final is usually a huge privilege granted to the very best referee in the world who is not from either country playing...





That is six years ago. Not enough information to cloud this event over his career much later.
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While Gozo is our next right winger, Mathis Albert is our next left winger. He is 17 and plays for Borussia Dortmund like Haaland, Bellingham, Pulisic and Reyna before him. This is a preseason game with the first team (!) playing against what I assume is a lower level team.

I think it is clear that he has the technique and the brain. His pure speed is maybe in question, but at his age it can improve, and it can somewhat be made up for with other skills. It is also possible he will move into the midfield. He is a top 5 exciting future USMNT player (with Gozo, Sullivan, Mehmeti, and Jakupovic).


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Cal88 said:

This is pretty interesting, reffing a WC final is usually a huge privilege granted to the very best referee in the world who is not from either country playing...



Sounds like the kind of guy Maradona would have gotten on with
Happy Roevember!
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oski003 said:

Cal88 said:

This is pretty interesting, reffing a WC final is usually a huge privilege granted to the very best referee in the world who is not from either country playing...





That is six years ago. Not enough information to cloud this event over his career much later.


He said he was just there for lunch.

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This ref sounds quintessential FIFA
OneKeg
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sluggo said:

OneKeg said:

Not sure when the USMNT plays next (CONCACAF Nations' League in September?).

But I was curious on how the roster and starting lineup is likely to evolve in the short term, understanding that there are longer-term prospects like Gozo on the horizon for 2030 and that some of the top-line players may not play when it's not a big tournament or if they are injured.

But let's pretend the US had to play in a critical match later in 2026 and everyone is healthy and available. For example, does Trusty replace Ream alongside Richards at center back? (Or perhaps move Freeman inside?)

I think it is hard to say. September is early in the European season and even if it is during an international break (meaning the players don't miss a league game), our top players need to fight for their spots.

I think Trusty for Ream is going to be an immediate change as Ream (hopefully) retires from international play. I think Gozo is the next player to get integrated, he should have been there for the Cup. Adri Mehmeti (17, ball distributing center mid) and Julian Hall (18, striker) both from Red Bull NYC are two other players who might join soon. I am curious what will happen with the goalkeeping situation, no predictions there.



Thanks Sluggo! Good stuff.

Yes, hopefully Ream exits stage left. This is not to hate on him, though he unfortunately had an exceedingly poor game against Belgium, but I think the US needs to find out what it has in Trusty alongside Richards at center back. Again, unless they move Freeman inside with Richards at center back and play Trusty on the outside of the back line?

I checked up a bit on Julian Hall (also listed as Julian Zakrzewski depending on where you look on the Red Bulls' roster) and Adri Mehmeti. Looks like both have been coming on lately. 2 assists for Hall, one for a Mehmeti goal to tie it up for the final score of 2-2, in a match against Inter Miami in April (Messi started that game for Miami!).

Hall has 9 goals in 15 matches to lead the team along with 4 assists, and Mehmeti also has 4 assists, both one off the team lead in assists. Gozo has 6 goals and 5 assists in 14 matches for Real Salt Lake. Hopefully all three keep progressing. Maybe play in Europe at some point like the other kid you linked (Mathis).
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OneKeg said:

sluggo said:

OneKeg said:

Not sure when the USMNT plays next (CONCACAF Nations' League in September?).

But I was curious on how the roster and starting lineup is likely to evolve in the short term, understanding that there are longer-term prospects like Gozo on the horizon for 2030 and that some of the top-line players may not play when it's not a big tournament or if they are injured.

But let's pretend the US had to play in a critical match later in 2026 and everyone is healthy and available. For example, does Trusty replace Ream alongside Richards at center back? (Or perhaps move Freeman inside?)

I think it is hard to say. September is early in the European season and even if it is during an international break (meaning the players don't miss a league game), our top players need to fight for their spots.

I think Trusty for Ream is going to be an immediate change as Ream (hopefully) retires from international play. I think Gozo is the next player to get integrated, he should have been there for the Cup. Adri Mehmeti (17, ball distributing center mid) and Julian Hall (18, striker) both from Red Bull NYC are two other players who might join soon. I am curious what will happen with the goalkeeping situation, no predictions there.



Thanks Sluggo! Good stuff.

Yes, hopefully Ream exits stage left. This is not to hate on him, though he unfortunately had an exceedingly poor game against Belgium, but I think the US needs to find out what it has in Trusty alongside Richards at center back. Again, unless they move Freeman inside with Richards at center back and play Trusty on the outside of the back line?

I checked up a bit on Julian Hall (also listed as Julian Zakrzewski depending on where you look on the Red Bulls' roster) and Adri Mehmeti. Looks like both have been coming on lately. 2 assists for Hall, one for a Mehmeti goal to tie it up for the final score of 2-2, in a match against Inter Miami in April (Messi started that game for Miami!).

Hall has 9 goals in 15 matches to lead the team along with 4 assists, and Mehmeti also has 4 assists, both one off the team lead in assists. Gozo has 6 goals and 5 assists in 14 matches for Real Salt Lake. Hopefully all three keep progressing. Maybe play in Europe at some point like the other kid you linked (Mathis).

The last two coaches have wanted left-footed left center backs and right-footed right center backs. So Trusty is really the only candidate if the new coach (who may be the old coach) wants a left-footed player to replace Ream. I also think he is the best center bank not named Richards, but that is more open to debate. My idea to move Freeman inside is not something I have seen reported. He is also right footed and his obvious replacement, Joe Scally, is far from great.

Hall has been scoring like a maniac. But he is not that big or fast or really anything. He just scores. Which means his skills may or may not translate to a high level. He reminds me of Chicharito who played for Mexico and just scored but not much else. Mehmeti is a skilled midfielder who is more than his stats. He is like Rodri or Pedri who you run a game through, which will be more important when Ream leaves. Also, I think the US struggled to play through the midfield in the WC. I prefer him to Tyler Adams who is more of a defensive bulldog. Hall and Mehmeti both grew up in NYC, which is funny to me because a tiny reason I moved from there back to the Bay Area is I that I wanted my kids to have a better soccer environment. (Not that I thought they would be pros, not with my genes, just that I wanted them outside.)

Gozo has to go(zo) to Europe. He is too good for MLS. Unfortunately MLS owns him practically forever, so we will see.

Mathis Albert has a French (maybe) father so he could go to Europe at 16 instead of waiting for 18. He is an American kid and friends with the others. He played for the LA Galaxy before he smartly went to Germany when he could.
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England up 1-0 on France, 3 minutes in. Bunker time?
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2-0 Lions.
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4-0 now.
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oski003 said:

4-0 now.

France seems to think they're playing Germany
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Game on biches!
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Come on Tuchel, put in 3 more defenders.

And screw the hydration break, totally destroys the flow of the game, hope we never see that monstrosity in any future WCs.
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A Tale of Two Halves
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Cal88 said:

Come on Tuchel, put in 3 more defenders.

And screw the hydration break, totally destroys the flow of the game, hope we never see that monstrosity in any future WCs.

100%. I hate it so much. I hate it worse than flopping. But we both know it is not going anywhere.

BTW, Infantino is talking about a 64 team World Cup. Of course he is. Such a disgusting man.
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UEFA is going after Infantino, as is anyone in the football world who isn't rotten.
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Cal88 said:

UEFA is going after Infantino, as is anyone in the football world who isn't rotten.

A short list indeed.

The problem is that every country has a vote, but almost every country will never host a world cup so what do they care? Corruption is inevitable.
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Olise can pass, but he can't score
sluggo
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Cal88 said:

Olise can pass, but he can't score

Not against real competition.
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Competition doesn't matter, he had two open goals today.
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Does England get a parade in front of Charlie and Camilla for bringing third place home?
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Smart of England to save Saka for the third place game.

(I just turned on the game hoping for another total flop, but it is not to be.)
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I've NEVER seen a ref so consistently out of position, clogging the passing lanes, in the way of players run, where the hell did they get him from.
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Cal88 said:

I've NEVER seen a ref so consistently out of position, clogging the passing lanes, in the way of players run, where the hell did they get him from.

Perhaps he is an imposter. Any mid level ref knows where to stand.
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Jesus Valenzuela from VENEZUELA, the only county in South America where they don't care about soccer...

Venezuela is the only country in South America to never qualify for a world cup.
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sluggo said:

Cal88 said:

Come on Tuchel, put in 3 more defenders.

And screw the hydration break, totally destroys the flow of the game, hope we never see that monstrosity in any future WCs.

100%. I hate it so much. I hate it worse than flopping. But we both know it is not going anywhere.

BTW, Infantino is talking about a 64 team World Cup. Of course he is. Such a disgusting man.



Aren't you looking forward to the HALF HOUR halftime tomorrow with BTS and 85 year old Madonna...
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Cal88 said:

sluggo said:

Cal88 said:

Come on Tuchel, put in 3 more defenders.

And screw the hydration break, totally destroys the flow of the game, hope we never see that monstrosity in any future WCs.

100%. I hate it so much. I hate it worse than flopping. But we both know it is not going anywhere.

BTW, Infantino is talking about a 64 team World Cup. Of course he is. Such a disgusting man.



Aren't you looking forward to the HALF HOUR halftime tomorrow with BTS and 85 year old Madonna...

I heard there was going to be a Super Bowl like halftime show but did not know the details. I think I will go for a walk and switch bars during that time.

Ignoring that it annoys me, it is a perversion of the game. Soccer is like water polo. It is extremely strenuous with midfielders running over 10k in game. That is why a typical soccer player is like 150-160 pounds. No breaks but halftime makes players and teams have to make decisions on how to expend energy. You let them takes breaks and they can play all out all the time. Other players will stiffen up. It is not right. Somebody do something.
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Cal88 said:

sluggo said:

Cal88 said:

Come on Tuchel, put in 3 more defenders.

And screw the hydration break, totally destroys the flow of the game, hope we never see that monstrosity in any future WCs.

100%. I hate it so much. I hate it worse than flopping. But we both know it is not going anywhere.

BTW, Infantino is talking about a 64 team World Cup. Of course he is. Such a disgusting man.



Aren't you looking forward to the HALF HOUR halftime tomorrow with BTS and 85 year old Madonna...


What?
That's abhorrent.

Maybe they should just do a home and away. More commercials!!
 
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