GB54;842839696 said:

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Putin isn't this smart.

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At this point I think it's most likely that both Trump and Putin are in over their heads. Neither expected it to go this far.

sycasey;842839699 said:

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At this point I think it's most likely that both Trump and Putin are in over their heads. Neither expected it to go this far.

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Reminds me my ex-girlfriend, oh well.

sycasey;842839694 said:

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Yup, it's a non-denial denial.

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"The story that came out tonight is false."

Strykur;842839701 said:

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"The story that came out tonight is false."

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Did you go to imprecision school with Trump? You left out "as reported." The quote was "The story that came out tonight as reported is false."

If Trump didn't divulge classified information to the Russians, McMaster would have said so, but curiously he didn't. The story didn't say that Trump divulged soures, but did say Trump mentioned the city and that if you knew the city you could figure out the source. Why didn't McMaster refute that statement specifically?

going4roses;842839687 said:

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Well how does this happen?

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https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/white-working-class-trump-cultural-anxiety/525771/


https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/1/20/14061660/women-march-washington-vote-trump

GB54;842839696 said:

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Putin isn't this smart.

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Doesn't have to be cause American's are that dumb.

Unit2Sucks;842839705 said:

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"The story that came out tonight as reported is false."

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McMaster said that the Washington Post's story was false, but I guess that is not enough for a whiny snowflake.

Strykur;842839708 said:

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McMaster said that the Washington Post's story was false, but I guess that is not enough for a whiny snowflake.

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I hope he and your faith in his statement are right.

BeachedBear;842839631 said:

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It has been entertaining watching this thread and all of the opinions dressed as rhetoric. Most of it is pretty far off. Not sure I can articulate or agree with Odonto's political worldview - simply because I am not paying attention to specific avatars, but his comment stands out as the most accurate in the 30+ pages of posts.

Hilary seemed like one of the most unelectable personas decades ago. Guess what, nothing changed since then. The fact that she won the nomination and lost the election is just more of the sideshow.

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Hillary has always been so... so... uppity. Just last week, I stayed at home and baked cookies and what's wrong with that?. She always thought she was better than me. Unelectable is right.

Now Donald Trump, there's a guy that's electable, apparently.

grandmastapoop;842839710 said:

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I hope he and your faith in his statement are right.

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Don't worry. This administration has great credibility in the past.

BearChemist;842839712 said:

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Don't worry. This administration has great credibility in the past.

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McMaster is an active Army lieutenant general. He should be fine.

Strykur;842839708 said:

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McMaster said that the Washington Post's story was false, but I guess that is not enough for a whiny snowflake.

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You don't realize you are the whiny snowflake in this scenario?

The irony that someone who supports this admistration, headed by the whinniest, most thin skinned, easily triggered man of them all uses the term "whiny snowflake" is almost sad.

Unit2Sucks;842839715 said:

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You don't realize you are the whiny snowflake in this scenario?

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Nixon still had about 25% approval at the end. Just remember that.

burritos;842839707 said:

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Doesn't have to be cause American's are that dumb.

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I don't believe the collusion stuff at all- collusion implies a secret conspiracy. The truth it was all above board- Putin wanted Trump to win and Trump would do anything to win. I seriously doubt anyone finds a quid pro quo. The half assed hacking was a laughably low grade intelligence operation. American intelligence ( Comey) helped Trump a lot more than Russian

burritos;842839657 said:

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And Hilary gets the blame for that why? You do know that Newt Gingrich was having an affair as he prosecuted Bill for having his. I could care less about their affairs, just like I could care about JFK's and Roosevelt's dalliances. Hell, I don't even care about Eleanor's lesbian affair. I'm sure you don't/didn't either. Or did you? Yet you lose sleep from what Monica and Bill did. Why is that? Are you jealous?

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Didn't bother me a bit. Show up for work and let's measure your results. But then, I was commenting not on the events but the rational of morality on each/both sides. Same/same.

A little bit off topic but maybe they should have let Coulter speak. Might have surprised them.

http://theweek.com/speedreads/698965/even-ann-coulter-thinks-trumps-presidency-been-disaster


In an interview Sunday with The Daily Caller, Coulter admitted that she is "not very happy with what has happened" in Trump's presidency. "It's just that it has been such a disaster so far," said Coulter

She said that "everyone who voted for him knew his personality was grotesque," but they'd been banking on Trump to act on the issues — and so far he hasn't. "It's not like I'm out yet, but boy, things don't look good.

However, she admitted that if "we just keep going to New York," she'll have to say the "Trump-haters were right." "It's a nightmare. I can't even contemplate that,"

RioDelMarBear;842839660 said:

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Several years ago I was having a conversation with my primary care physician, and she recommended a stress test to establish a baseline for me. I asked what that would cost. She replied "I don't know, you'd have to call the business office, but they probably wouldn't be able to tell you either." I declined to have the test.

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You were the kind of patient that any health care needs. You participated in the cost, so you were asking about it. Without that all is free and no one cares about the cost. Ends with little complaint, little cost control.

One way to tell if the Trump gave the Russians classified information is to subpoena the tapes he has alluded to previously. You can't make this **** up. Who the hell is feeding this President of all people, fake news? It's like giving a monkey a hand grenade. Good thing somebody stepped in and took the hand grenade away before it went off.

BearNIt;842839724 said:

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One way to tell if the Trump gave the Russians classified information is to subpoena the tapes he has alluded to previously. You can make this **** up. Who the hell is feeding this President of all people, fake news? It's like giving a monkey a hand grenade. Good thing somebody stepped in and took the hand grenade away before it went off.

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That would mean we were taping that meeting with the Russian ambassador. How's that for espionage?

Strykur;842839708 said:

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McMaster said that the Washington Post's story was false, but I guess that is not enough for a whiny snowflake.

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gobears725;842839722 said:

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A little bit off topic but maybe they should have let Coulter speak. Might have surprised them.

http://theweek.com/speedreads/698965/even-ann-coulter-thinks-trumps-presidency-been-disaster


In an interview Sunday with The Daily Caller, Coulter admitted that she is "not very happy with what has happened" in Trump's presidency. "It's just that it has been such a disaster so far," said Coulter

She said that "everyone who voted for him knew his personality was grotesque," but they'd been banking on Trump to act on the issues — and so far he hasn't. "It's not like I'm out yet, but boy, things don't look good.

However, she admitted that if "we just keep going to New York," she'll have to say the "Trump-haters were right." "It's a nightmare. I can't even contemplate that,"

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Eh, Coulter says all kinds of things. On the day before election day, she said on Twitter that Trump and Pence weren't even qualified to vote.

(Trump has ZERO grandparents born in America. Pence has three.....Obama has two. Hillary has four.)

BearNIt;842839724 said:

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One way to tell if the Trump gave the Russians classified information is to subpoena the tapes he has alluded to previously. You can make this **** up. Who the hell is feeding this President of all people, fake news? It's like giving a monkey a hand grenade. Good thing somebody stepped in and took the hand grenade away before it went off.

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http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/15/donald-trump-fake-news-238379

OdontoBear66;842839649 said:

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Most votes, wrong places, still equals a loss. Change the rules and you're right dajo.

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My statement is 100% correct. I'll even add that Hillary received more votes for President than any white man ever.

dajo9;842839728 said:

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My statement is 100% correct. I'll even add that Hillary received more votes for President than any white man ever.

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She did not receive more votes than Obama, who is technically a white man (as well as a black man).

Strykur;842839708 said:

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McMaster said that the Washington Post's story was false, but I guess that is not enough for a whiny snowflake.

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Would be fun to keep a spreadsheet of how far down the traitorous rabbit hole Republicans go with Trump by the time this all ends.

if a field goal kicker kicked trumps head hard enough, is it possible to decapitate him and send the head thru the goal posts?

that would be an interesting experiment and good for the country

graguna;842839732 said:

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if a field goal kicker kicked trumps head hard enough, is it possible to decapitate him and send the head thru the goal posts?

that would be an interesting experiment and good for the country

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Trump's head is so big it wouldn't fit through the goal posts unfortunately.

OdontoBear66;842839723 said:

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You were the kind of patient that any health care needs. You participated in the cost, so you were asking about it. Without that all is free and no one cares about the cost. Ends with little complaint, little cost control.

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I wasn't so much concerned with out-of-pocket costs; I wanted to know how much PAMF planned to overcharge my insurance company. I love it when I'm encouraged not to care what anything costs because insurance is taking care of it. When my insurance is overcharged for something, it's all those other suckers out there who foot the bill for me; when some other person gets overcharged, however, I'm part of the group of suckers who gets to overpay for them. We all pay the bill with higher insurance rates and out-of-pocket expenses. Anyway, more transparency would help, as would more local competition (or just a switch to Medicare for all). We small business owners were getting screwed over on this long before the ACA.

(I did recently have a stress-echo a few months ago, and everything's fine)

Unit2Sucks;842839715 said:

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You don't realize you are the whiny snowflake in this scenario?

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FromGQ 2-1-17

"The concept of a "snowflake" as a derisive term first entered the cultural zeitgeist in Fight Club by Chuck Palahniuk (the irony of staunch conservatives using language popularized by an openly gay author who writes shock-value stories about debauched sexual experiences is overlooked.) "You are not special," Palahniuk's protagonist, Tyler Durden, told his herd of anarchists, "You're not a beautiful and unique snowflake. You're the same decaying organic matter as everything else."

The term "snowflake" did have another slang application: according to Merriam Webster, "In Missouri in the early 1860s, a 'snowflake' was a person who was opposed to the abolition of slaverythe implication of the name being that such people valued white people over black people." The meaning has more or less swapped. Nowadays, someone with a Confederate flag in their profile picture is more likely to be the one calling someone else a snowflake. (There is also a rumor that "snowflake" was a term the Nazis used to refer to the ashes of people incinerated during the Holocaust; this has been debunked by Snopes.)"

Bobodeluxe;842839745 said:

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FromGQ 2-1-17

"The concept of a “snowflake” as a derisive term first entered the cultural zeitgeist in Fight Club by Chuck Palahniuk (the irony of staunch conservatives using language popularized by an openly gay author who writes shock-value stories about debauched sexual experiences is overlooked.) “You are not special,” Palahniuk’s protagonist, Tyler Durden, told his herd of anarchists, “You're not a beautiful and unique snowflake. You're the same decaying organic matter as everything else.”

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Fight Club is a terrific example of conservative men reading something that is clearly meant as satire and taking it literally.

sycasey;842839747 said:

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Fight Club is a terrific example of conservative men reading something that is clearly meant as satire and taking it literally.

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They didn't read it. They just watched the movie.

NYCGOBEARS;842839748 said:

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They didn't read it. They just watched the movie.

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Even that!

But I suppose I can't blame them for finding Brad Pitt attractive.

dajo9;842839728 said:

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My statement is 100% correct. I'll even add that Hillary received more votes for President than any white man ever.

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Again, you are reaching. As much as it may violate your stats, she lost!

RioDelMarBear;842839741 said:

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I wasn't so much concerned with out-of-pocket costs; I wanted to know how much PAMF planned to overcharge my insurance company. I love it when I'm encouraged not to care what anything costs because insurance is taking care of it. When my insurance is overcharged for something, it's all those other suckers out there who foot the bill for me; when some other person gets overcharged, however, I'm part of the group of suckers who gets to overpay for them. We all pay the bill with higher insurance rates and out-of-pocket expenses. Anyway, more transparency would help, as would more local competition (or just a switch to Medicare for all). We small business owners were getting screwed over on this long before the ACA.

(I did recently have a stress-echo a few months ago, and everything's fine)

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Co-pay of some sort is the only way. Other wise costs are too great. Patient participation in their own care given.

grandmastapoop;842839693 said:

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Just let Strykur continue to take his blue pill. It'll be ok, big guy. Nothing to see here, because a nice man said so.

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Hey Charlie Brown, Lucy may have promised that she would not pull the football away. But don't trust her. She is lying.

How many times must some people be lied to before they realize this administration has a penchant for lies especially when denying that the administration did any thing wrong.

Fool me 9,999 time shame on you fool me 10,000 times shame on me.

GB54;842839720 said:

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I don't believe the collusion stuff at all- collusion implies a secret conspiracy. The truth it was all above board- Putin wanted Trump to win and Trump would do anything to win. I seriously doubt anyone finds a quid pro quo. The half assed hacking was a laughably low grade intelligence operation. American intelligence ( Comey) helped Trump a lot more than Russian

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1. We KNOW that Manafort, Trump's initial campaign manager was paid millions by the Russian Banks via Ukraine.
2 We KNOW that Flynn Trump's top national security aide (both during the campaign and after the election) was receiving money from Russian Bank's under the control of Putin.
3. We KNOW (from Trump's attorneys) that Trump sold real estate assets to high Russian officials of at least $185,000,000 over the past 10 years. We KNOW that millions and millions of dollars in real estate sales were made to LLC's with undisclosed equity holders and that many of those equity holders were reported by Trump's associates to have been Russians.
4. We know that Manafort, Flynn and Trump were all very much in favor of removing economic sanctions from Russia.

That sure sounds like "quid pro quo" to me.