There is a $75,000 deductible if you get into an accident on this highway.
Anarchistbear said:
If you're a banker driving on the Obama highway and you kill a child, don't worry, we're all in this together.
Renewables are intermittent sources that require significant backup in hydrocarbon powered generators (mostly natural gas), they can't possibly come close to replacing oil, gas and coal in the short term. As well their cost is prohibitive, consumers in countries that have heavily invested in renewables like Spain, Denmark or Germany pay up to 4-5 times as much as US consumers for their heating KWs.dajo9 said:
Cal88 would never advocate going to renewables because Russia is a big oil producer (ok he'll probably do it once to refute this post but then no more).
Incremental things like the $10 trillion bank bailout, now that sure did improve the lives and futures of the American taxpayer, as did the same neocon foreign war program started by W & co with the mass droning and devastation of Libya, Syria, Yemen, and Afghanistan.dajo9 said:
These sorts of poor attempts at humor remind me of the banality of the criticisms of the Obama Presidency. Back when the government was well run and incremental things were done to improve the lives of the American people. A stark contrast to today's **** show.
dajo9 said:
Cal88 would never advocate going to renewables because Russia is a big oil producer (ok he'll probably do it once to refute this post but then no more).
sycasey said:Good call.dajo9 said:
Cal88 would never advocate going to renewables because Russia is a big oil producer (ok he'll probably do it once to refute this post but then no more)
Another Bear said:
So today was pretty freaking whacked even for the Mushroom Nationalist. To review:
A) Mattis resigns
B) Trump flips on signing the funding bill...will shut government down
C) Trump pulls out of Syria
D) Stock market craps its pants in response
E) All the usual stupidity and incompetence...
Frankly I didn't think things would get crazy for a while but it's looking like sooner than later. 10 days until the Dems take the House. I'm not sure the Short Finger Vulgarian makes it through March. I'm guessing the shyt hits the fan pretty soon. It's going to get nasty.
Cal88 said:Renewables are intermittent sources that require significant backup in hydrocarbon powered generators (mostly natural gas), they can't possibly come close to replacing oil, gas and coal in the short term. As well their cost is prohibitive, consumers in countries that have heavily invested in renewables like Spain, Denmark or Germany pay up to 4-5 times as much as US consumers for their heating KWs.dajo9 said:
Cal88 would never advocate going to renewables because Russia is a big oil producer (ok he'll probably do it once to refute this post but then no more).
France has succeeded in securing its energy independence by building the most ambitious nuclear energy program in the West, but the country is not prone to natural catastrophes like Japan or the US, and it has traditionally had a technocratic culture which would not sacrifice public safety for quarterly shareholder profits. In any case under the current financial climate, that program wouldn't be feasible today, it was accomplished back when the French state could issue funds interest free for large infrastructure projects.
The US and Canada have enough crude oil for well over a century's worth of domestic consumption, and that's just with today's technology and today's proven reserves. You want to **** with Russia dajo? Pump as much oil as you can, and depress one of their main sources of income. By doing this you also become competitive with Europe and China with a lower-energy cost industrial base. And guess what - that's precisely what Trump has done, the US is now a net oil exporter for the first time in history. We no longer need mideastern oil for our consumption, we're just there for Israel and geopolitical leverage over China and the rest of the world.
Its not just the Fed rate. Housing has been marginal for most of the year, business equipment purchases have been slowing, uncertainty with Brexit, concerns about the Eurozone and China, and plenty of other indicators pointing to an economic slowdown.oski003 said:Another Bear said:
So today was pretty freaking whacked even for the Mushroom Nationalist. To review:
A) Mattis resigns
B) Trump flips on signing the funding bill...will shut government down
C) Trump pulls out of Syria
D) Stock market craps its pants in response
E) All the usual stupidity and incompetence...
Frankly I didn't think things would get crazy for a while but it's looking like sooner than later. 10 days until the Dems take the House. I'm not sure the Short Finger Vulgarian makes it through March. I'm guessing the shyt hits the fan pretty soon. It's going to get nasty.
Fed rate just went up, which explains most of D
The current cost per megawatt may favor oil, but the infrastructure supporting oil and gas is pricey and requires long-range planning, and typically lasts several decades. It is in this infrastructure where wind, large-scale solar and storage have been making gains, to where several new natural gas plants have been shelved as it was more economical to go with storage and renewables. Further, and most importantly, I would much rather live next to a solar or wind farm than an oil or gas plant.Cal88 said:Renewables are intermittent sources that require significant backup in hydrocarbon powered generators (mostly natural gas), they can't possibly come close to replacing oil, gas and coal in the short term. As well their cost is prohibitive, consumers in countries that have heavily invested in renewables like Spain, Denmark or Germany pay up to 4-5 times as much as US consumers for their heating KWs.dajo9 said:
Cal88 would never advocate going to renewables because Russia is a big oil producer (ok he'll probably do it once to refute this post but then no more).
France has succeeded in securing its energy independence by building the most ambitious nuclear energy program in the West, but the country is not prone to natural catastrophes like Japan or the US, and it has traditionally had a technocratic culture which would not sacrifice public safety for quarterly shareholder profits. In any case under the current financial climate, that program wouldn't be feasible today, it was accomplished back when the French state could issue funds interest free for large infrastructure projects.
The US and Canada have enough crude oil for well over a century's worth of domestic consumption, and that's just with today's technology and today's proven reserves. You want to **** with Russia dajo? Pump as much oil as you can, and depress one of their main sources of income. By doing this you also become competitive with Europe and China with a lower-energy cost industrial base. And guess what - that's precisely what Trump has done, the US is now a net oil exporter for the first time in history. We no longer need mideastern oil for our consumption, we're just there for Israel and geopolitical leverage over China and the rest of the world.
Unfortunately things are pointing towards a Trump Recession and it might well be the Trump Shutdown that kicks it off. Trump is going to get full blame on this because of his chaotic policy.golden sloth said:Its not just the Fed rate. Housing has been marginal for most of the year, business equipment purchases have been slowing, uncertainty with Brexit, concerns about the Eurozone and China, and plenty of other indicators pointing to an economic slowdown.oski003 said:Another Bear said:
So today was pretty freaking whacked even for the Mushroom Nationalist. To review:
A) Mattis resigns
B) Trump flips on signing the funding bill...will shut government down
C) Trump pulls out of Syria
D) Stock market craps its pants in response
E) All the usual stupidity and incompetence...
Frankly I didn't think things would get crazy for a while but it's looking like sooner than later. 10 days until the Dems take the House. I'm not sure the Short Finger Vulgarian makes it through March. I'm guessing the shyt hits the fan pretty soon. It's going to get nasty.
Fed rate just went up, which explains most of D
Every morning, Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin flies halfway around the world in his supersonic Tupolev, lands near Dajo's home and goes inside his house to piss on his cereals.dajo9 said:Cal88 said:Renewables are intermittent sources that require significant backup in hydrocarbon powered generators (mostly natural gas), they can't possibly come close to replacing oil, gas and coal in the short term. As well their cost is prohibitive, consumers in countries that have heavily invested in renewables like Spain, Denmark or Germany pay up to 4-5 times as much as US consumers for their heating KWs.dajo9 said:
Cal88 would never advocate going to renewables because Russia is a big oil producer (ok he'll probably do it once to refute this post but then no more).
France has succeeded in securing its energy independence by building the most ambitious nuclear energy program in the West, but the country is not prone to natural catastrophes like Japan or the US, and it has traditionally had a technocratic culture which would not sacrifice public safety for quarterly shareholder profits. In any case under the current financial climate, that program wouldn't be feasible today, it was accomplished back when the French state could issue funds interest free for large infrastructure projects.
The US and Canada have enough crude oil for well over a century's worth of domestic consumption, and that's just with today's technology and today's proven reserves. You want to **** with Russia dajo? Pump as much oil as you can, and depress one of their main sources of income. By doing this you also become competitive with Europe and China with a lower-energy cost industrial base. And guess what - that's precisely what Trump has done, the US is now a net oil exporter for the first time in history. We no longer need mideastern oil for our consumption, we're just there for Israel and geopolitical leverage over China and the rest of the world.
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I don't disagree with the gist of your post, adding renewables where it's economically advantageous is not a bad thing, but it's also not a quick fix panacea. We shouldn't make the same mistakes that countries like Germany or Spain have made in subsidizing massive economically unfavorable projects, leading to exorbitant energy costs that are being disproportionally borne by the middle/lower classes. This kind of politically-motivated planning is part of the reason energy costs in CA have been rising a lot faster than in the rest of US:golden sloth said:The current cost per megawatt may favor oil, but the infrastructure supporting oil and gas is pricey and requires long-range planning, and typically lasts several decades. It is in this infrastructure where wind, large-scale solar and storage have been making gains, to where several new natural gas plants have been shelved as it was more economical to go with storage and renewables. Further, and most importantly, I would much rather live next to a solar or wind farm than an oil or gas plant.Cal88 said:Renewables are intermittent sources that require significant backup in hydrocarbon powered generators (mostly natural gas), they can't possibly come close to replacing oil, gas and coal in the short term. As well their cost is prohibitive, consumers in countries that have heavily invested in renewables like Spain, Denmark or Germany pay up to 4-5 times as much as US consumers for their heating KWs.dajo9 said:
Cal88 would never advocate going to renewables because Russia is a big oil producer (ok he'll probably do it once to refute this post but then no more).
France has succeeded in securing its energy independence by building the most ambitious nuclear energy program in the West, but the country is not prone to natural catastrophes like Japan or the US, and it has traditionally had a technocratic culture which would not sacrifice public safety for quarterly shareholder profits. In any case under the current financial climate, that program wouldn't be feasible today, it was accomplished back when the French state could issue funds interest free for large infrastructure projects.
The US and Canada have enough crude oil for well over a century's worth of domestic consumption, and that's just with today's technology and today's proven reserves. You want to **** with Russia dajo? Pump as much oil as you can, and depress one of their main sources of income. By doing this you also become competitive with Europe and China with a lower-energy cost industrial base. And guess what - that's precisely what Trump has done, the US is now a net oil exporter for the first time in history. We no longer need mideastern oil for our consumption, we're just there for Israel and geopolitical leverage over China and the rest of the world.
https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2018/7/13/17551878/natural-gas-markets-renewable-energy
Cal88 said:Every morning, Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin flies halfway around the world in his supersonic Tupolev, lands near Dajo's home and goes inside his house to piss on his cereals.dajo9 said:Cal88 said:Renewables are intermittent sources that require significant backup in hydrocarbon powered generators (mostly natural gas), they can't possibly come close to replacing oil, gas and coal in the short term. As well their cost is prohibitive, consumers in countries that have heavily invested in renewables like Spain, Denmark or Germany pay up to 4-5 times as much as US consumers for their heating KWs.dajo9 said:
Cal88 would never advocate going to renewables because Russia is a big oil producer (ok he'll probably do it once to refute this post but then no more).
France has succeeded in securing its energy independence by building the most ambitious nuclear energy program in the West, but the country is not prone to natural catastrophes like Japan or the US, and it has traditionally had a technocratic culture which would not sacrifice public safety for quarterly shareholder profits. In any case under the current financial climate, that program wouldn't be feasible today, it was accomplished back when the French state could issue funds interest free for large infrastructure projects.
The US and Canada have enough crude oil for well over a century's worth of domestic consumption, and that's just with today's technology and today's proven reserves. You want to **** with Russia dajo? Pump as much oil as you can, and depress one of their main sources of income. By doing this you also become competitive with Europe and China with a lower-energy cost industrial base. And guess what - that's precisely what Trump has done, the US is now a net oil exporter for the first time in history. We no longer need mideastern oil for our consumption, we're just there for Israel and geopolitical leverage over China and the rest of the world.
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Nyet.dajo9 said:
I wonder if there is anyone who posts here other than Cal88 who knows what kind of airplane Putin flies around in. Weird.
B.A. Bearacus said:Nyet.dajo9 said:
I wonder if there is anyone who posts here other than Cal88 who knows what kind of airplane Putin flies around in. Weird.
More telling about your rampant paranoia than anything else, my friend, because it turns out Air Forski One is an Illyushin 96.dajo9 said:Cal88 said:Every morning, Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin flies halfway around the world in his supersonic Tupolev, lands near Dajo's home and goes inside his house to piss on his cereals.dajo9 said:Cal88 said:Renewables are intermittent sources that require significant backup in hydrocarbon powered generators (mostly natural gas), they can't possibly come close to replacing oil, gas and coal in the short term. As well their cost is prohibitive, consumers in countries that have heavily invested in renewables like Spain, Denmark or Germany pay up to 4-5 times as much as US consumers for their heating KWs.dajo9 said:
Cal88 would never advocate going to renewables because Russia is a big oil producer (ok he'll probably do it once to refute this post but then no more).
France has succeeded in securing its energy independence by building the most ambitious nuclear energy program in the West, but the country is not prone to natural catastrophes like Japan or the US, and it has traditionally had a technocratic culture which would not sacrifice public safety for quarterly shareholder profits. In any case under the current financial climate, that program wouldn't be feasible today, it was accomplished back when the French state could issue funds interest free for large infrastructure projects.
The US and Canada have enough crude oil for well over a century's worth of domestic consumption, and that's just with today's technology and today's proven reserves. You want to **** with Russia dajo? Pump as much oil as you can, and depress one of their main sources of income. By doing this you also become competitive with Europe and China with a lower-energy cost industrial base. And guess what - that's precisely what Trump has done, the US is now a net oil exporter for the first time in history. We no longer need mideastern oil for our consumption, we're just there for Israel and geopolitical leverage over China and the rest of the world.
Putin approves this message
I wonder if there is anyone who posts here other than Cal88 who knows what kind of airplane Putin flies around in. Weird.
Just to return to this point:sycasey said:
The conservative attacks on Ocasio-Cortez really seem like weak sauce to me. I think they've underestimated how likable a politician she is, because she's young, female, and non-white (so exactly the the kind of person who doesn't run much in Republican circles).
You can disagree with her left-wing ideology, that's fine -- but assuming she's stupid seems like a bad approach.