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Inside the Bragg indictment:
Trump doorman paid 30k because he has a story about Trump having another child out of wedlock!!
Haha, what is THIS???!!!
Inquiring minds want to know, who's the new little Trump.
How old, male, female, who's the mother, and will s/he file a paternity suit to claim his $10B?
Siblings fight.
Inside the Bragg indictment:
Trump doorman paid 30k because he has a story about Trump having another child out of wedlock!!
Haha, what is THIS???!!!
WOW โ Trump paid a doorman $30,000 in hush money to not reveal a SECRET CHILD HE HAD OUT OF WEDLOCK ๐https://t.co/kFSISOGjZz
— LeGate๐ค (@williamlegate) April 4, 2023
Inquiring minds want to know, who's the new little Trump.
How old, male, female, who's the mother, and will s/he file a paternity suit to claim his $10B?
Siblings fight.
I'm surprised that 003 is admitting that American right-wing conservatives don't have the ability to analyze complex issues in anything but a black and white manner.sycasey said:oski003 said:sycasey said:calpoly said:Nice summary Unit2. Not surprising that Cal88 left out these important facts.Unit2Sucks said:You know someone is arguing in bad faith about gun control if they bring up Switzerland without context. Switzerland has strict gun control laws that is far beyond anything attempted in the US and far fewer handguns. Their private firearm ownership rate has also been significantly reduced over the last decade plus. And with all of that, they still have the highest rates of gun deaths in Europe because ... more guns.dajo9 said:True. In Switzerland the government gives guns to all males and trains them on their use.Big C said:
The reason that there are so many households in Switzerland that have guns is that, historically, Switzerland has tried to rely on citizen militias to defend itself. That and neutrality.
One reason that there are so many guns in the United States compared to some poorer countries is that we can afford them. Zambia, seriously?
True, gun ownership may not be the end-all, be-all to explain our homicide rate, but it's a factor, for sure. Or, as the Tennessee congressman said, throwing up his hands, "Really, there's nothing we can do!"
After crime rose in the 90's they passed federal gun control legislation. Although they have a long history of private gun ownership, they don't suffer from the same ammosexualism or gun fetishism that many white Americans do. They have far fewer guns than the US - less than 1 for every 4 citizens, whereas we are well over 1 to 1 at this point due to gun nuts. They also have universal background checks. Anyone with a criminal record or history of alcohol or drug abuse or "expressing a violent or dangerous attitude" is prohibited from owning guns.
For most categories of firearms you need a gun license and it only lasts for 9 months and is only valid for one firearm.
People who want to carry for self defense have to take a test proving they can safely use their weapon before they obtain a license.
They also have much stricter limits on the types of weapons they allow and limits on ammo. No armor-piercing rounds and to buy ammo you have to show your papers.
So sure, if we want to compare things to Switzerland, let's adopt their legislation as a starting point and give it a few decades to see if it makes a difference. But claiming that Switzerland is support for the contention that the US doesn't have a gun problem is pure fantasy. Or evidence that someone is on the NRA payroll.
Cal88 has liked to pretend he's an independent European free-thinker, but at this point it's hard to separate him from a bog-standard American right-wing conservative:
-Pro-gun
-Climate change is a hoax
-Covid vaccines bad
-Trans people bad
-Russia good, Ukraine bad
What am I missing here?
The ability to analyze complex issues in anything but a black and white manner.
Or I've understood the issues all too well and can see exactly what he's doing.
Eastern Oregon Bear said:I'm surprised that 003 is admitting that American right-wing conservatives don't have the ability to analyze complex issues in anything but a black and white manner.sycasey said:oski003 said:sycasey said:calpoly said:Nice summary Unit2. Not surprising that Cal88 left out these important facts.Unit2Sucks said:You know someone is arguing in bad faith about gun control if they bring up Switzerland without context. Switzerland has strict gun control laws that is far beyond anything attempted in the US and far fewer handguns. Their private firearm ownership rate has also been significantly reduced over the last decade plus. And with all of that, they still have the highest rates of gun deaths in Europe because ... more guns.dajo9 said:True. In Switzerland the government gives guns to all males and trains them on their use.Big C said:
The reason that there are so many households in Switzerland that have guns is that, historically, Switzerland has tried to rely on citizen militias to defend itself. That and neutrality.
One reason that there are so many guns in the United States compared to some poorer countries is that we can afford them. Zambia, seriously?
True, gun ownership may not be the end-all, be-all to explain our homicide rate, but it's a factor, for sure. Or, as the Tennessee congressman said, throwing up his hands, "Really, there's nothing we can do!"
After crime rose in the 90's they passed federal gun control legislation. Although they have a long history of private gun ownership, they don't suffer from the same ammosexualism or gun fetishism that many white Americans do. They have far fewer guns than the US - less than 1 for every 4 citizens, whereas we are well over 1 to 1 at this point due to gun nuts. They also have universal background checks. Anyone with a criminal record or history of alcohol or drug abuse or "expressing a violent or dangerous attitude" is prohibited from owning guns.
For most categories of firearms you need a gun license and it only lasts for 9 months and is only valid for one firearm.
People who want to carry for self defense have to take a test proving they can safely use their weapon before they obtain a license.
They also have much stricter limits on the types of weapons they allow and limits on ammo. No armor-piercing rounds and to buy ammo you have to show your papers.
So sure, if we want to compare things to Switzerland, let's adopt their legislation as a starting point and give it a few decades to see if it makes a difference. But claiming that Switzerland is support for the contention that the US doesn't have a gun problem is pure fantasy. Or evidence that someone is on the NRA payroll.
Cal88 has liked to pretend he's an independent European free-thinker, but at this point it's hard to separate him from a bog-standard American right-wing conservative:
-Pro-gun
-Climate change is a hoax
-Covid vaccines bad
-Trans people bad
-Russia good, Ukraine bad
What am I missing here?
The ability to analyze complex issues in anything but a black and white manner.
Or I've understood the issues all too well and can see exactly what he's doing.
Sycasey is not an American right-wing conservative. Nice try.
Boston Medical will perform "top surgery" on 15 year olds if thete are no life complicating issues.
How about depression & anxiety?
Gender dysphoria?
Adolescence?
How about depression & anxiety?
Gender dysphoria?
Adolescence?
Trans activists: No one is performing transition surgeries on minors@BostonChildrens: We perform double mastectomies on 15 year old girls pic.twitter.com/t5VPJD2ON6
— Gays Against Groomers (@againstgrmrs) April 4, 2023
He was referring to Cal88. If you're going to change conversation to talk another person, you should let everyone know rather than assume we will read your mind.oski003 said:Eastern Oregon Bear said:I'm surprised that 003 is admitting that American right-wing conservatives don't have the ability to analyze complex issues in anything but a black and white manner.sycasey said:oski003 said:sycasey said:calpoly said:Nice summary Unit2. Not surprising that Cal88 left out these important facts.Unit2Sucks said:You know someone is arguing in bad faith about gun control if they bring up Switzerland without context. Switzerland has strict gun control laws that is far beyond anything attempted in the US and far fewer handguns. Their private firearm ownership rate has also been significantly reduced over the last decade plus. And with all of that, they still have the highest rates of gun deaths in Europe because ... more guns.dajo9 said:True. In Switzerland the government gives guns to all males and trains them on their use.Big C said:
The reason that there are so many households in Switzerland that have guns is that, historically, Switzerland has tried to rely on citizen militias to defend itself. That and neutrality.
One reason that there are so many guns in the United States compared to some poorer countries is that we can afford them. Zambia, seriously?
True, gun ownership may not be the end-all, be-all to explain our homicide rate, but it's a factor, for sure. Or, as the Tennessee congressman said, throwing up his hands, "Really, there's nothing we can do!"
After crime rose in the 90's they passed federal gun control legislation. Although they have a long history of private gun ownership, they don't suffer from the same ammosexualism or gun fetishism that many white Americans do. They have far fewer guns than the US - less than 1 for every 4 citizens, whereas we are well over 1 to 1 at this point due to gun nuts. They also have universal background checks. Anyone with a criminal record or history of alcohol or drug abuse or "expressing a violent or dangerous attitude" is prohibited from owning guns.
For most categories of firearms you need a gun license and it only lasts for 9 months and is only valid for one firearm.
People who want to carry for self defense have to take a test proving they can safely use their weapon before they obtain a license.
They also have much stricter limits on the types of weapons they allow and limits on ammo. No armor-piercing rounds and to buy ammo you have to show your papers.
So sure, if we want to compare things to Switzerland, let's adopt their legislation as a starting point and give it a few decades to see if it makes a difference. But claiming that Switzerland is support for the contention that the US doesn't have a gun problem is pure fantasy. Or evidence that someone is on the NRA payroll.
Cal88 has liked to pretend he's an independent European free-thinker, but at this point it's hard to separate him from a bog-standard American right-wing conservative:
-Pro-gun
-Climate change is a hoax
-Covid vaccines bad
-Trans people bad
-Russia good, Ukraine bad
What am I missing here?
The ability to analyze complex issues in anything but a black and white manner.
Or I've understood the issues all too well and can see exactly what he's doing.
Sycasey is not an American right-wing conservative. Nice try.
Dude
Give the gender crap a rest, will you?
It's at the point of harassment toward a group of people based upon sexual orientation. That's generally included in the board's policy: race, gender, etc.
Give the gender crap a rest, will you?
It's at the point of harassment toward a group of people based upon sexual orientation. That's generally included in the board's policy: race, gender, etc.
concordtom said:
Dude
Give the gender crap a rest, will you?
It's at the point of harassment toward a group of people based upon sexual orientation. That's generally included in the board's policy: race, gender, etc.
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Send my credentials to the House of Detention
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:He was referring to Cal88. If you're going to change conversation to talk another person, you should let everyone know rather than assume we will read your mind.oski003 said:Eastern Oregon Bear said:I'm surprised that 003 is admitting that American right-wing conservatives don't have the ability to analyze complex issues in anything but a black and white manner.sycasey said:oski003 said:sycasey said:calpoly said:Nice summary Unit2. Not surprising that Cal88 left out these important facts.Unit2Sucks said:You know someone is arguing in bad faith about gun control if they bring up Switzerland without context. Switzerland has strict gun control laws that is far beyond anything attempted in the US and far fewer handguns. Their private firearm ownership rate has also been significantly reduced over the last decade plus. And with all of that, they still have the highest rates of gun deaths in Europe because ... more guns.dajo9 said:True. In Switzerland the government gives guns to all males and trains them on their use.Big C said:
The reason that there are so many households in Switzerland that have guns is that, historically, Switzerland has tried to rely on citizen militias to defend itself. That and neutrality.
One reason that there are so many guns in the United States compared to some poorer countries is that we can afford them. Zambia, seriously?
True, gun ownership may not be the end-all, be-all to explain our homicide rate, but it's a factor, for sure. Or, as the Tennessee congressman said, throwing up his hands, "Really, there's nothing we can do!"
After crime rose in the 90's they passed federal gun control legislation. Although they have a long history of private gun ownership, they don't suffer from the same ammosexualism or gun fetishism that many white Americans do. They have far fewer guns than the US - less than 1 for every 4 citizens, whereas we are well over 1 to 1 at this point due to gun nuts. They also have universal background checks. Anyone with a criminal record or history of alcohol or drug abuse or "expressing a violent or dangerous attitude" is prohibited from owning guns.
For most categories of firearms you need a gun license and it only lasts for 9 months and is only valid for one firearm.
People who want to carry for self defense have to take a test proving they can safely use their weapon before they obtain a license.
They also have much stricter limits on the types of weapons they allow and limits on ammo. No armor-piercing rounds and to buy ammo you have to show your papers.
So sure, if we want to compare things to Switzerland, let's adopt their legislation as a starting point and give it a few decades to see if it makes a difference. But claiming that Switzerland is support for the contention that the US doesn't have a gun problem is pure fantasy. Or evidence that someone is on the NRA payroll.
Cal88 has liked to pretend he's an independent European free-thinker, but at this point it's hard to separate him from a bog-standard American right-wing conservative:
-Pro-gun
-Climate change is a hoax
-Covid vaccines bad
-Trans people bad
-Russia good, Ukraine bad
What am I missing here?
The ability to analyze complex issues in anything but a black and white manner.
Or I've understood the issues all too well and can see exactly what he's doing.
Sycasey is not an American right-wing conservative. Nice try.
I was clearly answering his comment, "What am I missing?". I assume you can read what people right and therefore realize that what a direct reply to him.
Proof reading is a lost art.oski003 said:Eastern Oregon Bear said:He was referring to Cal88. If you're going to change conversation to talk another person, you should let everyone know rather than assume we will read your mind.oski003 said:Eastern Oregon Bear said:I'm surprised that 003 is admitting that American right-wing conservatives don't have the ability to analyze complex issues in anything but a black and white manner.sycasey said:oski003 said:sycasey said:calpoly said:Nice summary Unit2. Not surprising that Cal88 left out these important facts.Unit2Sucks said:You know someone is arguing in bad faith about gun control if they bring up Switzerland without context. Switzerland has strict gun control laws that is far beyond anything attempted in the US and far fewer handguns. Their private firearm ownership rate has also been significantly reduced over the last decade plus. And with all of that, they still have the highest rates of gun deaths in Europe because ... more guns.dajo9 said:True. In Switzerland the government gives guns to all males and trains them on their use.Big C said:
The reason that there are so many households in Switzerland that have guns is that, historically, Switzerland has tried to rely on citizen militias to defend itself. That and neutrality.
One reason that there are so many guns in the United States compared to some poorer countries is that we can afford them. Zambia, seriously?
True, gun ownership may not be the end-all, be-all to explain our homicide rate, but it's a factor, for sure. Or, as the Tennessee congressman said, throwing up his hands, "Really, there's nothing we can do!"
After crime rose in the 90's they passed federal gun control legislation. Although they have a long history of private gun ownership, they don't suffer from the same ammosexualism or gun fetishism that many white Americans do. They have far fewer guns than the US - less than 1 for every 4 citizens, whereas we are well over 1 to 1 at this point due to gun nuts. They also have universal background checks. Anyone with a criminal record or history of alcohol or drug abuse or "expressing a violent or dangerous attitude" is prohibited from owning guns.
For most categories of firearms you need a gun license and it only lasts for 9 months and is only valid for one firearm.
People who want to carry for self defense have to take a test proving they can safely use their weapon before they obtain a license.
They also have much stricter limits on the types of weapons they allow and limits on ammo. No armor-piercing rounds and to buy ammo you have to show your papers.
So sure, if we want to compare things to Switzerland, let's adopt their legislation as a starting point and give it a few decades to see if it makes a difference. But claiming that Switzerland is support for the contention that the US doesn't have a gun problem is pure fantasy. Or evidence that someone is on the NRA payroll.
Cal88 has liked to pretend he's an independent European free-thinker, but at this point it's hard to separate him from a bog-standard American right-wing conservative:
-Pro-gun
-Climate change is a hoax
-Covid vaccines bad
-Trans people bad
-Russia good, Ukraine bad
What am I missing here?
The ability to analyze complex issues in anything but a black and white manner.
Or I've understood the issues all too well and can see exactly what he's doing.
Sycasey is not an American right-wing conservative. Nice try.
I was clearly answering his comment, "What am I missing?". I assume you can read what people right and therefore realize that what a direct reply to him.
Unit2Sucks said:You know someone is arguing in bad faith about gun control if they bring up Switzerland without context. Switzerland has strict gun control laws that is far beyond anything attempted in the US and far fewer handguns. Their private firearm ownership rate has also been significantly reduced over the last decade plus.dajo9 said:True. In Switzerland the government gives guns to all males and trains them on their use.Big C said:
The reason that there are so many households in Switzerland that have guns is that, historically, Switzerland has tried to rely on citizen militias to defend itself. That and neutrality.
One reason that there are so many guns in the United States compared to some poorer countries is that we can afford them. Zambia, seriously?
True, gun ownership may not be the end-all, be-all to explain our homicide rate, but it's a factor, for sure. Or, as the Tennessee congressman said, throwing up his hands, "Really, there's nothing we can do!"
A lot of distortions, red herrings and falsehoods in your response here,
-Switzerland has the highest rate of gun ownership in W. Europe, and the highest in all of Europe behind Serbia. You try to muddle this fact by saying they have fewer handguns. What Switzerland has, in large numbers, the largest in W. Europe, is military-grade weapons, which is far worse from the perspective of a gun control advocate.
Whether they have reduced the smaller number of handguns is completely irrelevant, they still have military-grade guns in large numbers, the largest in Europe by far after Serbia... Yet Switzerland has the lowest homicide rates in Europe,
Switzerland has the lowest homicide rate in Europe among the 40 countries listed in the survey, behind Iceland, and barely behind Austria and Norway. Yet Switzerland has the highest rate of gun ownership in Europe, just behind Serbia,Quote:
And with all of that, Switzerland still have the highest rates of gun deaths in Europe because ... more guns.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_guns_and_homicide
So you`re either lying here or at best wilfully obfuscating.
sycasey said:calpoly said:Nice summary Unit2. Not surprising that Cal88 left out these important facts.Unit2Sucks said:You know someone is arguing in bad faith about gun control if they bring up Switzerland without context. Switzerland has strict gun control laws that is far beyond anything attempted in the US and far fewer handguns. Their private firearm ownership rate has also been significantly reduced over the last decade plus. And with all of that, they still have the highest rates of gun deaths in Europe because ... more guns.dajo9 said:True. In Switzerland the government gives guns to all males and trains them on their use.Big C said:
The reason that there are so many households in Switzerland that have guns is that, historically, Switzerland has tried to rely on citizen militias to defend itself. That and neutrality.
One reason that there are so many guns in the United States compared to some poorer countries is that we can afford them. Zambia, seriously?
True, gun ownership may not be the end-all, be-all to explain our homicide rate, but it's a factor, for sure. Or, as the Tennessee congressman said, throwing up his hands, "Really, there's nothing we can do!"
After crime rose in the 90's they passed federal gun control legislation. Although they have a long history of private gun ownership, they don't suffer from the same ammosexualism or gun fetishism that many white Americans do. They have far fewer guns than the US - less than 1 for every 4 citizens, whereas we are well over 1 to 1 at this point due to gun nuts. They also have universal background checks. Anyone with a criminal record or history of alcohol or drug abuse or "expressing a violent or dangerous attitude" is prohibited from owning guns.
For most categories of firearms you need a gun license and it only lasts for 9 months and is only valid for one firearm.
People who want to carry for self defense have to take a test proving they can safely use their weapon before they obtain a license.
They also have much stricter limits on the types of weapons they allow and limits on ammo. No armor-piercing rounds and to buy ammo you have to show your papers.
So sure, if we want to compare things to Switzerland, let's adopt their legislation as a starting point and give it a few decades to see if it makes a difference. But claiming that Switzerland is support for the contention that the US doesn't have a gun problem is pure fantasy. Or evidence that someone is on the NRA payroll.
Cal88 has liked to pretend he's an independent European free-thinker, but at this point it's hard to separate him from a bog-standard American right-wing conservative:
-Pro-gun
-Climate change is a hoax
-Covid vaccines bad
-Trans people bad
-Russia good, Ukraine bad
What am I missing here?
What you're missing here is that there is a bigger picture in all these issues, that one could garner if he isn't subject to the prevailing ideology and is capable of critical thinking beyond the constraints of modern tribal politics.
Cal88 said:sycasey said:calpoly said:Nice summary Unit2. Not surprising that Cal88 left out these important facts.Unit2Sucks said:You know someone is arguing in bad faith about gun control if they bring up Switzerland without context. Switzerland has strict gun control laws that is far beyond anything attempted in the US and far fewer handguns. Their private firearm ownership rate has also been significantly reduced over the last decade plus. And with all of that, they still have the highest rates of gun deaths in Europe because ... more guns.dajo9 said:True. In Switzerland the government gives guns to all males and trains them on their use.Big C said:
The reason that there are so many households in Switzerland that have guns is that, historically, Switzerland has tried to rely on citizen militias to defend itself. That and neutrality.
One reason that there are so many guns in the United States compared to some poorer countries is that we can afford them. Zambia, seriously?
True, gun ownership may not be the end-all, be-all to explain our homicide rate, but it's a factor, for sure. Or, as the Tennessee congressman said, throwing up his hands, "Really, there's nothing we can do!"
After crime rose in the 90's they passed federal gun control legislation. Although they have a long history of private gun ownership, they don't suffer from the same ammosexualism or gun fetishism that many white Americans do. They have far fewer guns than the US - less than 1 for every 4 citizens, whereas we are well over 1 to 1 at this point due to gun nuts. They also have universal background checks. Anyone with a criminal record or history of alcohol or drug abuse or "expressing a violent or dangerous attitude" is prohibited from owning guns.
For most categories of firearms you need a gun license and it only lasts for 9 months and is only valid for one firearm.
People who want to carry for self defense have to take a test proving they can safely use their weapon before they obtain a license.
They also have much stricter limits on the types of weapons they allow and limits on ammo. No armor-piercing rounds and to buy ammo you have to show your papers.
So sure, if we want to compare things to Switzerland, let's adopt their legislation as a starting point and give it a few decades to see if it makes a difference. But claiming that Switzerland is support for the contention that the US doesn't have a gun problem is pure fantasy. Or evidence that someone is on the NRA payroll.
Cal88 has liked to pretend he's an independent European free-thinker, but at this point it's hard to separate him from a bog-standard American right-wing conservative:
-Pro-gun
-Climate change is a hoax
-Covid vaccines bad
-Trans people bad
-Russia good, Ukraine bad
What am I missing here?
What you're missing here is that there is a bigger picture in all these issues, that one could garner if he isn't subject to the prevailing ideology and is capable of critical thinking beyond the constraints of modern tribal politics.
"Critical thinking" that always leads you to the right-wing conservative position on an issue, curious.
bearister said:Check yourself. pic.twitter.com/OyERxJRrLD
— Mueller, She Wrote (@MuellerSheWrote) April 4, 2023
The first sentence is false.
He isnt going to be "asking" you any of those things . . . because there is NO god in the first place.
"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
sycasey said:Cal88 said:sycasey said:calpoly said:Nice summary Unit2. Not surprising that Cal88 left out these important facts.Unit2Sucks said:You know someone is arguing in bad faith about gun control if they bring up Switzerland without context. Switzerland has strict gun control laws that is far beyond anything attempted in the US and far fewer handguns. Their private firearm ownership rate has also been significantly reduced over the last decade plus. And with all of that, they still have the highest rates of gun deaths in Europe because ... more guns.dajo9 said:True. In Switzerland the government gives guns to all males and trains them on their use.Big C said:
The reason that there are so many households in Switzerland that have guns is that, historically, Switzerland has tried to rely on citizen militias to defend itself. That and neutrality.
One reason that there are so many guns in the United States compared to some poorer countries is that we can afford them. Zambia, seriously?
True, gun ownership may not be the end-all, be-all to explain our homicide rate, but it's a factor, for sure. Or, as the Tennessee congressman said, throwing up his hands, "Really, there's nothing we can do!"
After crime rose in the 90's they passed federal gun control legislation. Although they have a long history of private gun ownership, they don't suffer from the same ammosexualism or gun fetishism that many white Americans do. They have far fewer guns than the US - less than 1 for every 4 citizens, whereas we are well over 1 to 1 at this point due to gun nuts. They also have universal background checks. Anyone with a criminal record or history of alcohol or drug abuse or "expressing a violent or dangerous attitude" is prohibited from owning guns.
For most categories of firearms you need a gun license and it only lasts for 9 months and is only valid for one firearm.
People who want to carry for self defense have to take a test proving they can safely use their weapon before they obtain a license.
They also have much stricter limits on the types of weapons they allow and limits on ammo. No armor-piercing rounds and to buy ammo you have to show your papers.
So sure, if we want to compare things to Switzerland, let's adopt their legislation as a starting point and give it a few decades to see if it makes a difference. But claiming that Switzerland is support for the contention that the US doesn't have a gun problem is pure fantasy. Or evidence that someone is on the NRA payroll.
Cal88 has liked to pretend he's an independent European free-thinker, but at this point it's hard to separate him from a bog-standard American right-wing conservative:
-Pro-gun
-Climate change is a hoax
-Covid vaccines bad
-Trans people bad
-Russia good, Ukraine bad
What am I missing here?
What you're missing here is that there is a bigger picture in all these issues, that one could garner if he isn't subject to the prevailing ideology and is capable of critical thinking beyond the constraints of modern tribal politics.
"Critical thinking" that always leads you to the right-wing conservative position on an issue, curious.
Not necessarily, for example I am strongly anti-war. Right-wing conservatives are pro-war, for instance they want escalation with China and a reversal of longstanding US policy on Taiwan, I am completely against that, because it is a policy that destabilizes the world and would lead to war.
Also many of these characterizations, like "trans people bad", "Ukraine bad" etc are gross mischaracterisations.
Exactly. Stop the never-ending wars. I read some quotes translated from Ukranian last night where a Ukranian citizen was saying they'd be 100x better if they solved the Donbas without war. If a 50 year old wants a schmechel, go for it. (Hopefully well thought, deliberative, with wise counseling.) But why the rush to sell barbaric medical procedures on 12-year-old children?
It's not anti-war if you constantly defend the country that started the war.
movielover said:
Exactly. Stop the never-ending wars. I read some quotes translated from Ukranian last night where a Ukranian citizen was saying they'd be 100x better if they solved the Donbas without war. If a 50 year old wants a schmechel, go for it. (Hopefully well thought, deliberative, with wise counseling.) But why the rush to sell barbaric medical procedures on 12-year-old children?
You say stop the neverending wars but you call Victor Davis Hanson a "great historian". I only know who he is from his pumping up the Iraq War.
sycasey said:
It's not anti-war if you constantly defend the country that started the war.
"We must condemn those who wage war, but even more so, those that make it inevitable"
Montesquieu
If I'm Zelensky, and I truly cared about the people I am supposed to lead, I would make sure not to start a war that I am certain to lose, a war that would destroy my country and kill hundreds of thousands of my countrymen, especially when agreements had been set in the first place to avoid said war.
If Taiwan declares independence tomorrow, crossing China's red line, and China invaded, would the responsibility be on China, or on the Taiwanese president who knew the consequences and took that action regardless, egged on by US neocons? It's the same situation in Ukraine.
40,000 Ukrainian soldiers died in Bakhmut alone, for what purpose?
To the last Ukrainian?
"An evil enemy will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes"
Sun Tzu
Cal88 said:sycasey said:
It's not anti-war if you constantly defend the country that started the war.
"We must condemn those who wage war, but even more so, those that make it inevitable"
Montesquieu
If I'm Zelensky, and I truly cared about the people I am supposed to lead, I would make sure not to start a war that I am certain to lose, a war that would destroy my country and kill hundreds of thousands of my countrymen, especially when agreements had been set in the first place to avoid said war.
If Taiwan declares independence tomorrow, crossing China's red line, and China invaded, would the responsibility be on China, or on the Taiwanese president who knew the consequences and took that action regardless, egged on by US neocons? It's the same situation in Ukraine.
40,000 Ukrainian soldiers died in Bakhmut alone, for what purpose?
To the last Ukrainian?
"An evil enemy will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes"
Sun Tzu
The responsibility would be on China. We don't get to just go around declaring red lines for our neighbors.
dajo9 said:
The responsibility would be on China. We don't get to just go around declaring red lines for our neighbors.
Of course we do, except our red lines don't just apply to our neighbors, they have been set all over the world. For instance Qaddafi crossed one, when he wanted to set a gold-backed pan-African currency.
The question is, are those red lines reasonable, and are they being deliberately crossed for ulterior geopolitical motives?
CONCORDTOM, YOU MIGHT NEED TO POLICE THE OT THREADS A LITTLE BIT! MAYBE ORDER THE CREATION OF A "GENDER ISSUES" THREAD AND ANOTHER "GUN CONTROL" THREAD?
I keep clicking on this thread expecting some "breaking news" and get an issue being argued, instead. Heck, I have been guilty of it myself. Concordtom, if this is allowed to continue, pretty soon somebody is going to post an obituary here!
It's amazing that you think anybody cared or was concerned that Qaddafi wanted to start a currencyCal88 said:dajo9 said:
The responsibility would be on China. We don't get to just go around declaring red lines for our neighbors.
Of course we do, except our red lines don't just apply to our neighbors, they have been set all over the world. For instance Qaddafi crossed one, when he wanted to set a gold-backed pan-African currency.
The question is, are those red lines reasonable, and are they being deliberately crossed for ulterior geopolitical motives?
He didn't start it.Cal88 said:
If I'm Zelensky, and I truly cared about the people I am supposed to lead, I would make sure not to start a war that I am certain to lose, a war that would destroy my country and kill hundreds of thousands of my countrymen, especially when agreements had been set in the first place to avoid said war.
sycasey said:He didn't start it.Cal88 said:
If I'm Zelensky, and I truly cared about the people I am supposed to lead, I would make sure not to start a war that I am certain to lose, a war that would destroy my country and kill hundreds of thousands of my countrymen, especially when agreements had been set in the first place to avoid said war.
It started out with the ATO, "Anti-Terrorist Operation", in 2014, by Zelensky's predecessors against the Donbass rebellion.
It was stopped by the Minsk Agreements.
It was restarted by the violation of these agreements, which culminated with the assembly of a large, well-trained, well-equipped (by NATO) Ukrainian army that was set to crush the Donbass rebellion and reconquer Crimea.
This was a war of choice for Zelensky and NATO. It still is right now, Biden can stop the carnage with one phone call.
Dr. Biden's racism results in LSU not visiting the white house?
https://sports.yahoo.com/angel-reese-says-lsu-wont-go-to-the-white-house-due-to-double-standard-would-visit-obamas-193052512.html
https://sports.yahoo.com/angel-reese-says-lsu-wont-go-to-the-white-house-due-to-double-standard-would-visit-obamas-193052512.html
Cal88 said:sycasey said:He didn't start it.Cal88 said:
If I'm Zelensky, and I truly cared about the people I am supposed to lead, I would make sure not to start a war that I am certain to lose, a war that would destroy my country and kill hundreds of thousands of my countrymen, especially when agreements had been set in the first place to avoid said war.
It started out with the ATO, "Anti-Terrorist Operation", in 2014, by Zelensky's predecessors against the Donbass rebellion.
It was stopped by the Minsk Agreements.
It was restarted by the violation of these agreements, which culminated with the assembly of a large, well-trained, well-equipped (by NATO) Ukrainian army that was set to crush the Donbass rebellion and reconquer Crimea.
This was a war of choice for Zelensky and NATO. It still is right now, Biden can stop the carnage with one phone call.
Delusional.
I also note that you leave out Russia's invasion of Crimea. But that shouldn't be surprising at this point.
Putin can also end it with one phone call. Probably more quickly and efficiently too.Cal88 said:sycasey said:He didn't start it.Cal88 said:
If I'm Zelensky, and I truly cared about the people I am supposed to lead, I would make sure not to start a war that I am certain to lose, a war that would destroy my country and kill hundreds of thousands of my countrymen, especially when agreements had been set in the first place to avoid said war.
It started out with the ATO, "Anti-Terrorist Operation", in 2014, by Zelensky's predecessors against the Donbass rebellion.
It was stopped by the Minsk Agreements.
It was restarted by the violation of these agreements, which culminated with the assembly of a large, well-trained, well-equipped (by NATO) Ukrainian army that was set to crush the Donbass rebellion and reconquer Crimea.
This was a war of choice for Zelensky and NATO. It still is right now, Biden can stop the carnage with one phone call.
I don't think it's racism. It looks like it's just a non sports fan deciding that everyone deserves a participation trophy. Also, has LSU cancelled the visit officially? All I see is Angel Reese's statement and she seems to mainly act from the chip on her shoulder. It makes her a great player but I'd want to verify her comments before accepting them.oski003 said:
Dr. Biden's racism results in LSU not visiting the white house?
https://sports.yahoo.com/angel-reese-says-lsu-wont-go-to-the-white-house-due-to-double-standard-would-visit-obamas-193052512.html
Dr. Frankenstein killed by his own creation lol.oski003 said:
Dr. Biden's racism results in LSU not visiting the white house?
https://sports.yahoo.com/angel-reese-says-lsu-wont-go-to-the-white-house-due-to-double-standard-would-visit-obamas-193052512.html
I'm sure the AD loves this.
Not a drag queen in sight https://t.co/XEDtsSoDBT
— Anthony Dominic (@alloveranthony) April 5, 2023
That's not how this works. You have to declare a red line and then commit war crimes if you want to be taken seriously. Bonus points if your arguments are laughable and you hide your true motives. Even more bonus points if you can convince useful idiots to act against their own interests and amplify your nonsense.Big C said:
CONCORDTOM, YOU MIGHT NEED TO POLICE THE OT THREADS A LITTLE BIT! MAYBE ORDER THE CREATION OF A "GENDER ISSUES" THREAD AND ANOTHER "GUN CONTROL" THREAD?
I keep clicking on this thread expecting some "breaking news" and get an issue being argued, instead. Heck, I have been guilty of it myself. Concordtom, if this is allowed to continue, pretty soon somebody is going to post an obituary here!
Apparently it's not an outrage because the victims didn't undergo gender change surgery.dajo9 said:Not a drag queen in sight https://t.co/XEDtsSoDBT
— Anthony Dominic (@alloveranthony) April 5, 2023
Actual Breaking News:
BREAKING: Robert F Kennedy Jr. registers to run for president as Democrat against Joe Biden https://t.co/zNIaOUUsGs
— Jack Poso ๐บ๐ธ (@JackPosobiec) April 5, 2023
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