X/Twitter/Elon Musk wouldn't be prone to Media Matters manipulation (if it happened) if they weren't allowing pro-Nazi and other racist content unlimited access to their platform.oski003 said:Eastern Oregon Bear said:Hooray for free speech, except when we disagree with it!movielover said:The split second court opens on Monday, X Corp will be filing a thermonuclear lawsuit against Media Matters and ALL those who colluded in this fraudulent attack on our company pic.twitter.com/55vl7PspaQ
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 18, 2023
Lawsuit
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24172809-x-v-media-matters-complaint-filestamped-1Considering what we know about big tech already, the idea that the government is not involved in Media Matters is absurd
— Tim Pool (@Timcast) November 21, 2023
I bet discovery will easily show communications/coordination between media Matters and government employeesElon Musk Should Sue Media Matters Into Oblivion https://t.co/NwlaHY1eTQ
— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) November 21, 2023
Suing for defamation and a coordinated effort to use manipulation and lies to cause financial and personal damage is not disagreeing with free speech.
Eastern Oregon Bear said:X/Twitter/Elon Musk wouldn't be prone to Media Matters manipulation (if it happened) if they weren't allowing pro-Nazi and racist content unlimited access to their platform.oski003 said:Eastern Oregon Bear said:Hooray for free speech, except when we disagree with it!movielover said:The split second court opens on Monday, X Corp will be filing a thermonuclear lawsuit against Media Matters and ALL those who colluded in this fraudulent attack on our company pic.twitter.com/55vl7PspaQ
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 18, 2023
Lawsuit
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24172809-x-v-media-matters-complaint-filestamped-1Considering what we know about big tech already, the idea that the government is not involved in Media Matters is absurd
— Tim Pool (@Timcast) November 21, 2023
I bet discovery will easily show communications/coordination between media Matters and government employeesElon Musk Should Sue Media Matters Into Oblivion https://t.co/NwlaHY1eTQ
— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) November 21, 2023
Suing for defamation and a coordinated effort to use manipulation and lies to cause financial and personal damage is not disagreeing with free speech.
Media Matters claimed that ads were placed next to pro-Nazi and racist content. X/Linda Yaccarino, in movielover's post upthread, aren't denying that the pro-Nazi and racist content exists, just saying that no one was shown mainstream business ads next to that content.oski003 said:Eastern Oregon Bear said:X/Twitter/Elon Musk wouldn't be prone to Media Matters manipulation (if it happened) if they weren't allowing pro-Nazi and racist content unlimited access to their platform.oski003 said:Eastern Oregon Bear said:Hooray for free speech, except when we disagree with it!movielover said:The split second court opens on Monday, X Corp will be filing a thermonuclear lawsuit against Media Matters and ALL those who colluded in this fraudulent attack on our company pic.twitter.com/55vl7PspaQ
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 18, 2023
Lawsuit
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24172809-x-v-media-matters-complaint-filestamped-1Considering what we know about big tech already, the idea that the government is not involved in Media Matters is absurd
— Tim Pool (@Timcast) November 21, 2023
I bet discovery will easily show communications/coordination between media Matters and government employeesElon Musk Should Sue Media Matters Into Oblivion https://t.co/NwlaHY1eTQ
— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) November 21, 2023
Suing for defamation and a coordinated effort to use manipulation and lies to cause financial and personal damage is not disagreeing with free speech.
X/Twitter/Elon Musk does not allow pro-Nazi and racist content unlimited access to their platform.
Eastern Oregon Bear said:Media Matters claimed that ads were placed next to pro-Nazi and racist content. X/Linda Yaccarino, in movielover's post upthread, aren't denying that the pro-Nazi and racist content exists, just saying that no one was shown mainstream business ads next to that content.oski003 said:Eastern Oregon Bear said:X/Twitter/Elon Musk wouldn't be prone to Media Matters manipulation (if it happened) if they weren't allowing pro-Nazi and racist content unlimited access to their platform.oski003 said:Eastern Oregon Bear said:Hooray for free speech, except when we disagree with it!movielover said:The split second court opens on Monday, X Corp will be filing a thermonuclear lawsuit against Media Matters and ALL those who colluded in this fraudulent attack on our company pic.twitter.com/55vl7PspaQ
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 18, 2023
Lawsuit
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24172809-x-v-media-matters-complaint-filestamped-1Considering what we know about big tech already, the idea that the government is not involved in Media Matters is absurd
— Tim Pool (@Timcast) November 21, 2023
I bet discovery will easily show communications/coordination between media Matters and government employeesElon Musk Should Sue Media Matters Into Oblivion https://t.co/NwlaHY1eTQ
— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) November 21, 2023
Suing for defamation and a coordinated effort to use manipulation and lies to cause financial and personal damage is not disagreeing with free speech.
X/Twitter/Elon Musk does not allow pro-Nazi and racist content unlimited access to their platform.
Why doesn't MMFA receive the benefit of your "core" 1st amendment beliefs? What about the advertisers who were promised by Twitter that their brand ads wouldn't appear next to abhorrent content? Did you oppose all of the conservatives who absolutely lost their minds when Bud Light sent an influencer a few cans of personalized beer? Did you oppose those expressions of criticism, or only expressions of criticism of Twitter hosting vile content that may be seen along side advertisements from brands who don't have any interest in being associated with nazis, et al.?tequila4kapp said:
I don't really care who started it, I'm just opposed to it. It's foundationally opposite to my core 1st Amendment beliefs.
People paying attention will note that it doesn't matter whether or not MMFA "manipulated" Twitter's platform to generate these unlikely ad / content pairings. Twitter promised advertisers that their content wouldn't be seen next to abhorrent content and MMFA proved that to be wrong. Twitter hasn't challenged this at all - in fact they admitted that it happened.Quote:
The company's placements come after CEO Linda Yaccarino claimed that brands are "protected from the risk of being next to" toxic posts on the platform.
Yaccarino has been trying to bring advertisers back to the platform by claiming it's safe for business. She's also claimed that X (formerly Twitter) has been "demonstrating its absolute commitment to combating antisemitism on the platform" and that "antisemitism is evil and X will always work to fight it on our platform."
movielover said:
The new Libertarian President of Argentina Javier Milei is driving the Liberals mad with his plans to axe complete government departments... upwards of half. Which would help reign in costs. What a task.
On YouTube, every new movie gets a rash of videos gleefully trashing it. I'm not defending Napoleon and fully expect it to be factually inaccurate because Hollywood can't help itself from "improving" history. I'm just finding the social media trend of crapping on everything to be disturbing.movielover said:
History Legends slams new Napoleon movie. Lots of mistakes for $200 Million.
movielover said:
History Legends slams new Napoleon movie. Lots of mistakes for $200 Million.
dajo9 said:movielover said:
History Legends slams new Napoleon movie. Lots of mistakes for $200 Million.
Haven't seen the movie yet but am excited to see it soon. Mostly I am excited that a big budget historical epic was made at all.
This critic asks, why were battle scenes better some 20, 50, 70 years ago. The answer is because audiences went to movies back then. Now it's a huge risk making a movie at all. You have to keep the audience excited to be there.
He then says the timespan is too broad and it should have been a miniseries. That's like saying we should give up on big historical epics. Maybe we should. There will always be complainers.
Then, curiously this critic starts talking up Soviet films as a better approach. Use more extras like the Soviet moviemaker did for War and Peace in the 1960s (the Soviet army provided 10,000 extras at a cost of $60 million in today's dollars) or for the 1970 Waterloo (a box office flop). Why are we even pretending Soviet movies should be even mentioned alongside Hollywood?
Tired of all these internet nobodies trying to hype up the Soviet era. Where does it come from? We all know.
I recently watched Major Grom: Plague Doctor on Netflix. It's a recent Russian movie based on a popular Russian comic book. If you are into action movies, it's pretty entertaining. It did fairly well in Russia.dajo9 said:
Then, curiously this critic starts talking up Soviet films as a better approach. Use more extras like the Soviet moviemaker did for War and Peace in the 1960s (the Soviet army provided 10,000 extras at a cost of $60 million in today's dollars) or for the 1970 Waterloo (a box office flop). Why are we even pretending Soviet movies should be even mentioned alongside Hollywood?
Cal88 said:dajo9 said:movielover said:
History Legends slams new Napoleon movie. Lots of mistakes for $200 Million.
Haven't seen the movie yet but am excited to see it soon. Mostly I am excited that a big budget historical epic was made at all.
This critic asks, why were battle scenes better some 20, 50, 70 years ago. The answer is because audiences went to movies back then. Now it's a huge risk making a movie at all. You have to keep the audience excited to be there.
He then says the timespan is too broad and it should have been a miniseries. That's like saying we should give up on big historical epics. Maybe we should. There will always be complainers.
Then, curiously this critic starts talking up Soviet films as a better approach. Use more extras like the Soviet moviemaker did for War and Peace in the 1960s (the Soviet army provided 10,000 extras at a cost of $60 million in today's dollars) or for the 1970 Waterloo (a box office flop). Why are we even pretending Soviet movies should be even mentioned alongside Hollywood?
Tired of all these internet nobodies trying to hype up the Soviet era. Where does it come from? We all know.
Typical combination of narrow-minded jingoism and lack of cultural erudition. Do you even know who Eisenstein or Tarkovsky are? Eisenstein defined the modern historical epic genre.
dajo9 said:Cal88 said:dajo9 said:movielover said:
History Legends slams new Napoleon movie. Lots of mistakes for $200 Million.
Haven't seen the movie yet but am excited to see it soon. Mostly I am excited that a big budget historical epic was made at all.
This critic asks, why were battle scenes better some 20, 50, 70 years ago. The answer is because audiences went to movies back then. Now it's a huge risk making a movie at all. You have to keep the audience excited to be there.
He then says the timespan is too broad and it should have been a miniseries. That's like saying we should give up on big historical epics. Maybe we should. There will always be complainers.
Then, curiously this critic starts talking up Soviet films as a better approach. Use more extras like the Soviet moviemaker did for War and Peace in the 1960s (the Soviet army provided 10,000 extras at a cost of $60 million in today's dollars) or for the 1970 Waterloo (a box office flop). Why are we even pretending Soviet movies should be even mentioned alongside Hollywood?
Tired of all these internet nobodies trying to hype up the Soviet era. Where does it come from? We all know.
Typical combination of narrow-minded jingoism and lack of cultural erudition. Do you even know who Eisenstein or Tarkovsky are? Eisenstein defined the modern historical epic genre.
Hey Cal88, since you are a Russian know-it-all, I'd like your opinion on the book Red Plenty. I found it highly interesting.
Cal88 said:dajo9 said:Cal88 said:dajo9 said:movielover said:
History Legends slams new Napoleon movie. Lots of mistakes for $200 Million.
Haven't seen the movie yet but am excited to see it soon. Mostly I am excited that a big budget historical epic was made at all.
This critic asks, why were battle scenes better some 20, 50, 70 years ago. The answer is because audiences went to movies back then. Now it's a huge risk making a movie at all. You have to keep the audience excited to be there.
He then says the timespan is too broad and it should have been a miniseries. That's like saying we should give up on big historical epics. Maybe we should. There will always be complainers.
Then, curiously this critic starts talking up Soviet films as a better approach. Use more extras like the Soviet moviemaker did for War and Peace in the 1960s (the Soviet army provided 10,000 extras at a cost of $60 million in today's dollars) or for the 1970 Waterloo (a box office flop). Why are we even pretending Soviet movies should be even mentioned alongside Hollywood?
Tired of all these internet nobodies trying to hype up the Soviet era. Where does it come from? We all know.
Typical combination of narrow-minded jingoism and lack of cultural erudition. Do you even know who Eisenstein or Tarkovsky are? Eisenstein defined the modern historical epic genre.
Hey Cal88, since you are a Russian know-it-all, I'd like your opinion on the book Red Plenty. I found it highly interesting.
I am not an expert on all things Russian, it just might look that way when interacting with people whose world view is a half baked modern version of the Cold War.
Soviet-style economic planning was a failure. Bolshevik social engineering in the 20s and 30s was just as evil as the Nazi version, with similar body counts. I would refer you to the works of Solzhenitsyn, notably the Gulag Archipelgo.
You can be a critic of current US foreign and economic policies without being a fan of communism.
This being said, as bad as Soviet economic planning was, what came after it in the neoliberal shock doctrine policies of the 1990s was much worse, resulting in nearly half that country being plunged into abject poverty, complete social breakdown and the early death of an estimated 5 million people in Russia. Putin owes his popularity at home for having righted their economic and social ship.
dajo9 said:Cal88 said:dajo9 said:Cal88 said:dajo9 said:movielover said:
History Legends slams new Napoleon movie. Lots of mistakes for $200 Million.
Haven't seen the movie yet but am excited to see it soon. Mostly I am excited that a big budget historical epic was made at all.
This critic asks, why were battle scenes better some 20, 50, 70 years ago. The answer is because audiences went to movies back then. Now it's a huge risk making a movie at all. You have to keep the audience excited to be there.
He then says the timespan is too broad and it should have been a miniseries. That's like saying we should give up on big historical epics. Maybe we should. There will always be complainers.
Then, curiously this critic starts talking up Soviet films as a better approach. Use more extras like the Soviet moviemaker did for War and Peace in the 1960s (the Soviet army provided 10,000 extras at a cost of $60 million in today's dollars) or for the 1970 Waterloo (a box office flop). Why are we even pretending Soviet movies should be even mentioned alongside Hollywood?
Tired of all these internet nobodies trying to hype up the Soviet era. Where does it come from? We all know.
Typical combination of narrow-minded jingoism and lack of cultural erudition. Do you even know who Eisenstein or Tarkovsky are? Eisenstein defined the modern historical epic genre.
Hey Cal88, since you are a Russian know-it-all, I'd like your opinion on the book Red Plenty. I found it highly interesting.
I am not an expert on all things Russian, it just might look that way when interacting with people whose world view is a half baked modern version of the Cold War.
Soviet-style economic planning was a failure. Bolshevik social engineering in the 20s and 30s was just as evil as the Nazi version, with similar body counts. I would refer you to the works of Solzhenitsyn, notably the Gulag Archipelgo.
You can be a critic of current US foreign and economic policies without being a fan of communism.
This being said, as bad as Soviet economic planning was, what came after it in the neoliberal shock doctrine policies of the 1990s was much worse, resulting in nearly half that country being plunged into abject poverty, complete social breakdown and the early death of an estimated 5 million people in Russia. Putin owes his popularity at home for having righted their economic and social ship.
6 - 9 million people died in Stalin's famine but what Russia did to itself after taking bad advice from conservative ideologues was worse, according to Putin88. And Putin, who is dead, was the savior even though he benefited more than anybody from that era.
Putin88 never misses a chance to be at work.
Red Plenty is a really good book. Far from a polemic but the obvious truth does out.
Algerian migrant suspected of stabbing women, children in Dublin was known to police, previously slated for deportation but saved by liberal NGOshttps://t.co/ns5UVgUEhNhttps://t.co/ns5UVgUEhN
— Jack Poso 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) November 27, 2023
Isn’t it interesting that neither Poland nor Hungary is enduring the chaos and violence indigenous to mass immigration?
— James Woods (@RealJamesWoods) November 26, 2023
Oh, right, they enforce their borders and their laws.
movielover said:Isn’t it interesting that neither Poland nor Hungary is enduring the chaos and violence indigenous to mass immigration?
— James Woods (@RealJamesWoods) November 26, 2023
Oh, right, they enforce their borders and their laws.
According to the Irish times the suspect is a naturalized Irish citizen who has lived in the country for 20 years. In which case the "migrant" narrative seems unfair to the point of potential racism (generally, not you specifically).movielover said:Algerian migrant suspected of stabbing women, children in Dublin was known to police, previously slated for deportation but saved by liberal NGOshttps://t.co/ns5UVgUEhNhttps://t.co/ns5UVgUEhN
— Jack Poso 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) November 27, 2023
Big C said:movielover said:Isn’t it interesting that neither Poland nor Hungary is enduring the chaos and violence indigenous to mass immigration?
— James Woods (@RealJamesWoods) November 26, 2023
Oh, right, they enforce their borders and their laws.
Isn't it interesting that neither Poland nor Hungary is experiencing the economic growth indigenous to mass immigration?
Oh right, they enforce their borders and their laws, marry their similarly white cousins and hate everyone else, languishing in perpetual mediocrity. But at least brown people and non-Christians aren't competing for their crap jobs!
movielover said:
And more low skilled, non-native speakers who require huge amounts of welfare help that how?
Saint-Malo, Brittany, has one of the highest tides in Europe, with water that can rise 13 m over.
— Massimo (@Rainmaker1973) November 28, 2023
These houses (here seen during storm Ciara), are built as a sea wall and 4 layer glass on the front windows.
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