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Cal88
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ChudBear said:

cal83dls79 said:

ChudBear said:

DiabloWags said:

cal83dls79 said:

I'd put Trump clearly ahead in genocide and false payout promises departments with 2 years to go.


Never mind that at $5,000 for each American adult you're at $1.3 Trillion.
Congress will NEVER approve that.

More snake oil for his gullible followers.


What financial promises did Biden make and not deliver?

  • Up to $125,000 per person for student debt forgiveness
  • $2,000 stimulus checks
  • $8,000 child care credit (only managed half of this amount)
  • Free community college
  • Free public college for families earning under $125,000
  • $15 Federal minimum wage
  • 12 weeks paid family/medical leave
  • 7 paid sick days
  • Section 8 vouchers for every eligible family capping rent at 30% of income
  • Universal preschool for 3 and 4 year olds
Damn that's well over $1.3 trillion.


how's the "no wars" unkept promise working for you? Working up a pretty big tab and getting biglyier.

We are discussing financial promises made during elections. Let the grown ups talk.


Trump promised no new wars, that is a promise with huge financial consequences, in case you needed that to be spelled out.
cal83dls79
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Cal88 said:

ChudBear said:

cal83dls79 said:

ChudBear said:

DiabloWags said:

cal83dls79 said:

I'd put Trump clearly ahead in genocide and false payout promises departments with 2 years to go.


Never mind that at $5,000 for each American adult you're at $1.3 Trillion.
Congress will NEVER approve that.

More snake oil for his gullible followers.


What financial promises did Biden make and not deliver?

  • Up to $125,000 per person for student debt forgiveness
  • $2,000 stimulus checks
  • $8,000 child care credit (only managed half of this amount)
  • Free community college
  • Free public college for families earning under $125,000
  • $15 Federal minimum wage
  • 12 weeks paid family/medical leave
  • 7 paid sick days
  • Section 8 vouchers for every eligible family capping rent at 30% of income
  • Universal preschool for 3 and 4 year olds
Damn that's well over $1.3 trillion.


how's the "no wars" unkept promise working for you? Working up a pretty big tab and getting biglyier.

We are discussing financial promises made during elections. Let the grown ups talk.


Trump promised no new wars, that is a promise with huge financial consequences, in case you needed that to be spelled out.
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Aunburdened
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oskidunker said:

The Tax to fund Bart. Very well concealed in the proposition. No mention of Bart. Ridiculous. I voted no.

Which proposition are you referring to here?
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ChudBear
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Cal88 said:

ChudBear said:

cal83dls79 said:

ChudBear said:

DiabloWags said:

cal83dls79 said:

I'd put Trump clearly ahead in genocide and false payout promises departments with 2 years to go.


Never mind that at $5,000 for each American adult you're at $1.3 Trillion.
Congress will NEVER approve that.

More snake oil for his gullible followers.


What financial promises did Biden make and not deliver?

  • Up to $125,000 per person for student debt forgiveness
  • $2,000 stimulus checks
  • $8,000 child care credit (only managed half of this amount)
  • Free community college
  • Free public college for families earning under $125,000
  • $15 Federal minimum wage
  • 12 weeks paid family/medical leave
  • 7 paid sick days
  • Section 8 vouchers for every eligible family capping rent at 30% of income
  • Universal preschool for 3 and 4 year olds
Damn that's well over $1.3 trillion.


how's the "no wars" unkept promise working for you? Working up a pretty big tab and getting biglyier.

We are discussing financial promises made during elections. Let the grown ups talk.


Trump promised no new wars, that is a promise with huge financial consequences, in case you needed that to be spelled out.

We were discussing financial promises not kept.

If you want to pivot, we can talk about no new wars. This isn't a war, easy. No new wars. He's also been preaching for decades that Iran can't have a nuke. If you were paying attention, you knew this was coming.
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Aunburdened said:

DiabloWags said:

BearlySane88 said:

DiabloWags said:

BearlySane88 said:

DiabloWags said:

movielover said:

And Socialism fails.


Is that why Americans have never received a $500 DOGE Check?
A $2,000 Tariff Dividend?

Because Socialism fails?

Your repeated whataboutism is noted.

There's no whataboutism.
Just curious why Americans never got any of the money that Trump promised.


The entire post was whataboutism.

Are you expecting a $5,000 check if the GOP wins in November?

I'm still waiting on my $2,000 from Genocide Joe. I have equal expectation of receiving either.


Yogi (and all 9 of the people who starred his post) thinks the fiscal policy inflation the world experienced after covid was too low and wanted higher inflation
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dajo9 said:

Aunburdened said:

DiabloWags said:

BearlySane88 said:

DiabloWags said:

BearlySane88 said:

DiabloWags said:

movielover said:

And Socialism fails.


Is that why Americans have never received a $500 DOGE Check?
A $2,000 Tariff Dividend?

Because Socialism fails?

Your repeated whataboutism is noted.

There's no whataboutism.
Just curious why Americans never got any of the money that Trump promised.


The entire post was whataboutism.

Are you expecting a $5,000 check if the GOP wins in November?

I'm still waiting on my $2,000 from Genocide Joe. I have equal expectation of receiving either.


Yogi (and all 9 of the people who starred his post) thinks the fiscal policy inflation the world experienced after covid was too low and wanted higher inflation

With all the tears you've cried today, I'm surprised you're not dehydrated
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dajo9
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Aunburdened said:

dajo9 said:

Aunburdened said:

DiabloWags said:

BearlySane88 said:

DiabloWags said:

BearlySane88 said:

DiabloWags said:

movielover said:

And Socialism fails.


Is that why Americans have never received a $500 DOGE Check?
A $2,000 Tariff Dividend?

Because Socialism fails?

Your repeated whataboutism is noted.

There's no whataboutism.
Just curious why Americans never got any of the money that Trump promised.


The entire post was whataboutism.

Are you expecting a $5,000 check if the GOP wins in November?

I'm still waiting on my $2,000 from Genocide Joe. I have equal expectation of receiving either.


Yogi (and all 9 of the people who starred his post) thinks the fiscal policy inflation the world experienced after covid was too low and wanted higher inflation

With all the tears you've cried today, I'm surprised you're not dehydrated


Projection much?
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Aunburdened said:

oskidunker said:

The Tax to fund Bart. Very well concealed in the proposition. No mention of Bart. Ridiculous. I voted no.

Which proposition are you referring to here?

prop 61
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Cal88
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ChudBear said:

Cal88 said:

ChudBear said:

cal83dls79 said:

ChudBear said:

DiabloWags said:

cal83dls79 said:

I'd put Trump clearly ahead in genocide and false payout promises departments with 2 years to go.


Never mind that at $5,000 for each American adult you're at $1.3 Trillion.
Congress will NEVER approve that.

More snake oil for his gullible followers.


What financial promises did Biden make and not deliver?

  • Up to $125,000 per person for student debt forgiveness
  • $2,000 stimulus checks
  • $8,000 child care credit (only managed half of this amount)
  • Free community college
  • Free public college for families earning under $125,000
  • $15 Federal minimum wage
  • 12 weeks paid family/medical leave
  • 7 paid sick days
  • Section 8 vouchers for every eligible family capping rent at 30% of income
  • Universal preschool for 3 and 4 year olds
Damn that's well over $1.3 trillion.


how's the "no wars" unkept promise working for you? Working up a pretty big tab and getting biglyier.

We are discussing financial promises made during elections. Let the grown ups talk.


Trump promised no new wars, that is a promise with huge financial consequences, in case you needed that to be spelled out.

We were discussing financial promises not kept.

If you want to pivot, we can talk about no new wars. This isn't a war, easy. No new wars. He's also been preaching for decades that Iran can't have a nuke. If you were paying attention, you knew this was coming.


Trump could have easily negotiated an extension of the JCPOA with Iran, but instead he (and his financiers) want regime change in Iran for Israel, and this war that is already costing $100B and counting is the result.

Trump promised to his base no new wars, he lied, having been bought off by the Adelsons, who have already invested a quarter billion in him.
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Cal88 said:

ChudBear said:

Cal88 said:

ChudBear said:

cal83dls79 said:

ChudBear said:

DiabloWags said:

cal83dls79 said:

I'd put Trump clearly ahead in genocide and false payout promises departments with 2 years to go.


Never mind that at $5,000 for each American adult you're at $1.3 Trillion.
Congress will NEVER approve that.

More snake oil for his gullible followers.


What financial promises did Biden make and not deliver?

  • Up to $125,000 per person for student debt forgiveness
  • $2,000 stimulus checks
  • $8,000 child care credit (only managed half of this amount)
  • Free community college
  • Free public college for families earning under $125,000
  • $15 Federal minimum wage
  • 12 weeks paid family/medical leave
  • 7 paid sick days
  • Section 8 vouchers for every eligible family capping rent at 30% of income
  • Universal preschool for 3 and 4 year olds
Damn that's well over $1.3 trillion.


how's the "no wars" unkept promise working for you? Working up a pretty big tab and getting biglyier.

We are discussing financial promises made during elections. Let the grown ups talk.


Trump promised no new wars, that is a promise with huge financial consequences, in case you needed that to be spelled out.

We were discussing financial promises not kept.

If you want to pivot, we can talk about no new wars. This isn't a war, easy. No new wars. He's also been preaching for decades that Iran can't have a nuke. If you were paying attention, you knew this was coming.


Trump could have easily negotiated an extension of the JCPOA with Iran



Why would he have done that when he talked about how awful of a deal it was?
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Trump decides to attend the Alabama-Georgia game in Tuscaloosa this Saturday and God decides to send Alabama a category 2 hurricane to liven things up. The forecast for Tuscaloosa from sources I looked up calls for 2+ inches of rain during the game, 40% chance of thunderstorms, isolated tornadoes and winds in excess of 30-40 mph.

https://www.al.com/alabamafootball/2026/10/a-nightmare-scenario-in-play-with-possible-hurricane-hitting-alabama-georgia-james-spann-says.html
Cal88
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BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

ChudBear said:

Cal88 said:

ChudBear said:

cal83dls79 said:

ChudBear said:

DiabloWags said:

cal83dls79 said:

I'd put Trump clearly ahead in genocide and false payout promises departments with 2 years to go.


Never mind that at $5,000 for each American adult you're at $1.3 Trillion.
Congress will NEVER approve that.

More snake oil for his gullible followers.


What financial promises did Biden make and not deliver?

  • Up to $125,000 per person for student debt forgiveness
  • $2,000 stimulus checks
  • $8,000 child care credit (only managed half of this amount)
  • Free community college
  • Free public college for families earning under $125,000
  • $15 Federal minimum wage
  • 12 weeks paid family/medical leave
  • 7 paid sick days
  • Section 8 vouchers for every eligible family capping rent at 30% of income
  • Universal preschool for 3 and 4 year olds
Damn that's well over $1.3 trillion.


how's the "no wars" unkept promise working for you? Working up a pretty big tab and getting biglyier.

We are discussing financial promises made during elections. Let the grown ups talk.


Trump promised no new wars, that is a promise with huge financial consequences, in case you needed that to be spelled out.

We were discussing financial promises not kept.

If you want to pivot, we can talk about no new wars. This isn't a war, easy. No new wars. He's also been preaching for decades that Iran can't have a nuke. If you were paying attention, you knew this was coming.


Trump could have easily negotiated an extension of the JCPOA with Iran



Why would he have done that when he talked about how awful of a deal it was?

It was a very good deal, Trump didn't like it because he was paid $250,000,000 to not like it, and because it was Obama's deal. Iran is now on the brink of getting nukes because of this.
BearlySane88
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Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

ChudBear said:

Cal88 said:

ChudBear said:

cal83dls79 said:

ChudBear said:

DiabloWags said:

cal83dls79 said:

I'd put Trump clearly ahead in genocide and false payout promises departments with 2 years to go.


Never mind that at $5,000 for each American adult you're at $1.3 Trillion.
Congress will NEVER approve that.

More snake oil for his gullible followers.


What financial promises did Biden make and not deliver?

  • Up to $125,000 per person for student debt forgiveness
  • $2,000 stimulus checks
  • $8,000 child care credit (only managed half of this amount)
  • Free community college
  • Free public college for families earning under $125,000
  • $15 Federal minimum wage
  • 12 weeks paid family/medical leave
  • 7 paid sick days
  • Section 8 vouchers for every eligible family capping rent at 30% of income
  • Universal preschool for 3 and 4 year olds
Damn that's well over $1.3 trillion.


how's the "no wars" unkept promise working for you? Working up a pretty big tab and getting biglyier.

We are discussing financial promises made during elections. Let the grown ups talk.


Trump promised no new wars, that is a promise with huge financial consequences, in case you needed that to be spelled out.

We were discussing financial promises not kept.

If you want to pivot, we can talk about no new wars. This isn't a war, easy. No new wars. He's also been preaching for decades that Iran can't have a nuke. If you were paying attention, you knew this was coming.


Trump could have easily negotiated an extension of the JCPOA with Iran



Why would he have done that when he talked about how awful of a deal it was?

It was a very good deal, Trump didn't like it because he was paid $250,000,000 to not like it, and because it was Obama's deal. Iran is now on the brink of getting nukes because of this.


Trump first publicly said he didn't like the JCPOA in April of 2015, before he even officially announced he was running. You still voted for him twice. He's been saying he wants to get rid of it for over a decade.
sycasey
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BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

ChudBear said:

Cal88 said:

ChudBear said:

cal83dls79 said:

ChudBear said:

DiabloWags said:

cal83dls79 said:

I'd put Trump clearly ahead in genocide and false payout promises departments with 2 years to go.


Never mind that at $5,000 for each American adult you're at $1.3 Trillion.
Congress will NEVER approve that.

More snake oil for his gullible followers.


What financial promises did Biden make and not deliver?

  • Up to $125,000 per person for student debt forgiveness
  • $2,000 stimulus checks
  • $8,000 child care credit (only managed half of this amount)
  • Free community college
  • Free public college for families earning under $125,000
  • $15 Federal minimum wage
  • 12 weeks paid family/medical leave
  • 7 paid sick days
  • Section 8 vouchers for every eligible family capping rent at 30% of income
  • Universal preschool for 3 and 4 year olds
Damn that's well over $1.3 trillion.


how's the "no wars" unkept promise working for you? Working up a pretty big tab and getting biglyier.

We are discussing financial promises made during elections. Let the grown ups talk.


Trump promised no new wars, that is a promise with huge financial consequences, in case you needed that to be spelled out.

We were discussing financial promises not kept.

If you want to pivot, we can talk about no new wars. This isn't a war, easy. No new wars. He's also been preaching for decades that Iran can't have a nuke. If you were paying attention, you knew this was coming.


Trump could have easily negotiated an extension of the JCPOA with Iran



Why would he have done that when he talked about how awful of a deal it was?

That's the problem, he shouldn't have locked himself into scrapping it without having a real plan for what happens next. Unless the plan was this, which seems to go against his "no new wars" campaign promise.
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sycasey said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

ChudBear said:

Cal88 said:

ChudBear said:

cal83dls79 said:

ChudBear said:

DiabloWags said:

cal83dls79 said:

I'd put Trump clearly ahead in genocide and false payout promises departments with 2 years to go.


Never mind that at $5,000 for each American adult you're at $1.3 Trillion.
Congress will NEVER approve that.

More snake oil for his gullible followers.


What financial promises did Biden make and not deliver?

  • Up to $125,000 per person for student debt forgiveness
  • $2,000 stimulus checks
  • $8,000 child care credit (only managed half of this amount)
  • Free community college
  • Free public college for families earning under $125,000
  • $15 Federal minimum wage
  • 12 weeks paid family/medical leave
  • 7 paid sick days
  • Section 8 vouchers for every eligible family capping rent at 30% of income
  • Universal preschool for 3 and 4 year olds
Damn that's well over $1.3 trillion.


how's the "no wars" unkept promise working for you? Working up a pretty big tab and getting biglyier.

We are discussing financial promises made during elections. Let the grown ups talk.


Trump promised no new wars, that is a promise with huge financial consequences, in case you needed that to be spelled out.

We were discussing financial promises not kept.

If you want to pivot, we can talk about no new wars. This isn't a war, easy. No new wars. He's also been preaching for decades that Iran can't have a nuke. If you were paying attention, you knew this was coming.


Trump could have easily negotiated an extension of the JCPOA with Iran



Why would he have done that when he talked about how awful of a deal it was?

That's the problem, he shouldn't have locked himself into scrapping it without having a real plan for what happens next. Unless the plan was this, which seems to go against his "no new wars" campaign promise.


Anyone who voted for Trump should have known full well that Iran was an option if it presented itself. He was presented with a situation that he felt he had to act. None of us know what goes into the decision making of a president.
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Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

ChudBear said:

Cal88 said:

ChudBear said:

cal83dls79 said:

ChudBear said:

DiabloWags said:

cal83dls79 said:

I'd put Trump clearly ahead in genocide and false payout promises departments with 2 years to go.


Never mind that at $5,000 for each American adult you're at $1.3 Trillion.
Congress will NEVER approve that.

More snake oil for his gullible followers.


What financial promises did Biden make and not deliver?

  • Up to $125,000 per person for student debt forgiveness
  • $2,000 stimulus checks
  • $8,000 child care credit (only managed half of this amount)
  • Free community college
  • Free public college for families earning under $125,000
  • $15 Federal minimum wage
  • 12 weeks paid family/medical leave
  • 7 paid sick days
  • Section 8 vouchers for every eligible family capping rent at 30% of income
  • Universal preschool for 3 and 4 year olds
Damn that's well over $1.3 trillion.


how's the "no wars" unkept promise working for you? Working up a pretty big tab and getting biglyier.

We are discussing financial promises made during elections. Let the grown ups talk.


Trump promised no new wars, that is a promise with huge financial consequences, in case you needed that to be spelled out.

We were discussing financial promises not kept.

If you want to pivot, we can talk about no new wars. This isn't a war, easy. No new wars. He's also been preaching for decades that Iran can't have a nuke. If you were paying attention, you knew this was coming.


Trump could have easily negotiated an extension of the JCPOA with Iran



Why would he have done that when he talked about how awful of a deal it was?

It was a very good deal, Trump didn't like it because he was paid $250,000,000 to not like it, and because it was Obama's deal. Iran is now on the brink of getting nukes because of this.


You believe they hid enough material before the Stealth bombers hit a year ago, and the recent bombardment?
Cal88
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BearlySane88 said:

sycasey said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

ChudBear said:

Cal88 said:

ChudBear said:

cal83dls79 said:

ChudBear said:

DiabloWags said:

cal83dls79 said:

I'd put Trump clearly ahead in genocide and false payout promises departments with 2 years to go.


Never mind that at $5,000 for each American adult you're at $1.3 Trillion.
Congress will NEVER approve that.

More snake oil for his gullible followers.


What financial promises did Biden make and not deliver?

  • Up to $125,000 per person for student debt forgiveness
  • $2,000 stimulus checks
  • $8,000 child care credit (only managed half of this amount)
  • Free community college
  • Free public college for families earning under $125,000
  • $15 Federal minimum wage
  • 12 weeks paid family/medical leave
  • 7 paid sick days
  • Section 8 vouchers for every eligible family capping rent at 30% of income
  • Universal preschool for 3 and 4 year olds
Damn that's well over $1.3 trillion.


how's the "no wars" unkept promise working for you? Working up a pretty big tab and getting biglyier.

We are discussing financial promises made during elections. Let the grown ups talk.


Trump promised no new wars, that is a promise with huge financial consequences, in case you needed that to be spelled out.

We were discussing financial promises not kept.

If you want to pivot, we can talk about no new wars. This isn't a war, easy. No new wars. He's also been preaching for decades that Iran can't have a nuke. If you were paying attention, you knew this was coming.


Trump could have easily negotiated an extension of the JCPOA with Iran



Why would he have done that when he talked about how awful of a deal it was?

That's the problem, he shouldn't have locked himself into scrapping it without having a real plan for what happens next. Unless the plan was this, which seems to go against his "no new wars" campaign promise.


Anyone who voted for Trump should have known full well that Iran was an option if it presented itself. He was presented with a situation that he felt he had to act. None of us know what goes into the decision making of a president.


Trump jockeyed to gain Sheldon Adelson's favors in 2015 ahead of the elections. Adelson is the largest donor in history and only cares about Israel, Trump promised him to move the US embassy to Jerusalem and to allow Israel to annex the Golan Heights. In the most recent election cycle Trump promised him to scrap the JCPOA and to push for regime change in Iran.
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cal83dls79 said:

ChudBear said:

DiabloWags said:

cal83dls79 said:

I'd put Trump clearly ahead in genocide and false payout promises departments with 2 years to go.


Never mind that at $5,000 for each American adult you're at $1.3 Trillion.
Congress will NEVER approve that.

More snake oil for his gullible followers.


What financial promises did Biden make and not deliver?

  • Up to $125,000 per person for student debt forgiveness
  • $2,000 stimulus checks
  • $8,000 child care credit (only managed half of this amount)
  • Free community college
  • Free public college for families earning under $125,000
  • $15 Federal minimum wage
  • 12 weeks paid family/medical leave
  • 7 paid sick days
  • Section 8 vouchers for every eligible family capping rent at 30% of income
  • Universal preschool for 3 and 4 year olds
Damn that's well over $1.3 trillion.

how's the "no wars" unkept promise working for you? Working up a pretty big tab and getting biglyier.


Some people cant count that high.
Never mind the $2.0 Trillion annual budget deficit.
So much for Trump being fiscally conservative.

Another lie.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/federal-budget-deficit-reaches-2-trillion-first-11-months-fiscal-year-2026-cbo-reports.amp

It's a CULT.

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Adelson died in January, 2021.
Cal88
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movielover said:

Adelson died in January, 2021.

His Israeli wife took over the lobbying.
BearlySane88
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Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:

sycasey said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

ChudBear said:

Cal88 said:

ChudBear said:

cal83dls79 said:

ChudBear said:

DiabloWags said:

cal83dls79 said:

I'd put Trump clearly ahead in genocide and false payout promises departments with 2 years to go.


Never mind that at $5,000 for each American adult you're at $1.3 Trillion.
Congress will NEVER approve that.

More snake oil for his gullible followers.


What financial promises did Biden make and not deliver?

  • Up to $125,000 per person for student debt forgiveness
  • $2,000 stimulus checks
  • $8,000 child care credit (only managed half of this amount)
  • Free community college
  • Free public college for families earning under $125,000
  • $15 Federal minimum wage
  • 12 weeks paid family/medical leave
  • 7 paid sick days
  • Section 8 vouchers for every eligible family capping rent at 30% of income
  • Universal preschool for 3 and 4 year olds
Damn that's well over $1.3 trillion.


how's the "no wars" unkept promise working for you? Working up a pretty big tab and getting biglyier.

We are discussing financial promises made during elections. Let the grown ups talk.


Trump promised no new wars, that is a promise with huge financial consequences, in case you needed that to be spelled out.

We were discussing financial promises not kept.

If you want to pivot, we can talk about no new wars. This isn't a war, easy. No new wars. He's also been preaching for decades that Iran can't have a nuke. If you were paying attention, you knew this was coming.


Trump could have easily negotiated an extension of the JCPOA with Iran



Why would he have done that when he talked about how awful of a deal it was?

That's the problem, he shouldn't have locked himself into scrapping it without having a real plan for what happens next. Unless the plan was this, which seems to go against his "no new wars" campaign promise.


Anyone who voted for Trump should have known full well that Iran was an option if it presented itself. He was presented with a situation that he felt he had to act. None of us know what goes into the decision making of a president.


Trump jockeyed to gain Sheldon Adelson's favors in 2015 ahead of the elections. Adelson is the largest donor in history and only cares about Israel, Trump promised him to move the US embassy to Jerusalem and to allow Israel to annex the Golan Heights. In the most recent election cycle Trump promised him to scrap the JCPOA and to push for regime change in Iran.


I don't know the validity of most of what you just said so I'll repeat my previous response, Anyone who voted for Trump should have known full well that Iran was an option if it presented itself.
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BearlySane88 said:

sycasey said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

ChudBear said:

Cal88 said:

ChudBear said:

cal83dls79 said:

ChudBear said:

DiabloWags said:

cal83dls79 said:

I'd put Trump clearly ahead in genocide and false payout promises departments with 2 years to go.


Never mind that at $5,000 for each American adult you're at $1.3 Trillion.
Congress will NEVER approve that.

More snake oil for his gullible followers.


What financial promises did Biden make and not deliver?

  • Up to $125,000 per person for student debt forgiveness
  • $2,000 stimulus checks
  • $8,000 child care credit (only managed half of this amount)
  • Free community college
  • Free public college for families earning under $125,000
  • $15 Federal minimum wage
  • 12 weeks paid family/medical leave
  • 7 paid sick days
  • Section 8 vouchers for every eligible family capping rent at 30% of income
  • Universal preschool for 3 and 4 year olds
Damn that's well over $1.3 trillion.


how's the "no wars" unkept promise working for you? Working up a pretty big tab and getting biglyier.

We are discussing financial promises made during elections. Let the grown ups talk.


Trump promised no new wars, that is a promise with huge financial consequences, in case you needed that to be spelled out.

We were discussing financial promises not kept.

If you want to pivot, we can talk about no new wars. This isn't a war, easy. No new wars. He's also been preaching for decades that Iran can't have a nuke. If you were paying attention, you knew this was coming.


Trump could have easily negotiated an extension of the JCPOA with Iran



Why would he have done that when he talked about how awful of a deal it was?

That's the problem, he shouldn't have locked himself into scrapping it without having a real plan for what happens next. Unless the plan was this, which seems to go against his "no new wars" campaign promise.


Anyone who voted for Trump should have known full well that Iran was an option if it presented itself. He was presented with a situation that he felt he had to act. None of us know what goes into the decision making of a president.

Clearly a lot of people did not think so, and that's why his approval rating has cratered.
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sycasey said:

BearlySane88 said:

sycasey said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

ChudBear said:

Cal88 said:

ChudBear said:

cal83dls79 said:

ChudBear said:

DiabloWags said:

cal83dls79 said:

I'd put Trump clearly ahead in genocide and false payout promises departments with 2 years to go.


Never mind that at $5,000 for each American adult you're at $1.3 Trillion.
Congress will NEVER approve that.

More snake oil for his gullible followers.


What financial promises did Biden make and not deliver?

  • Up to $125,000 per person for student debt forgiveness
  • $2,000 stimulus checks
  • $8,000 child care credit (only managed half of this amount)
  • Free community college
  • Free public college for families earning under $125,000
  • $15 Federal minimum wage
  • 12 weeks paid family/medical leave
  • 7 paid sick days
  • Section 8 vouchers for every eligible family capping rent at 30% of income
  • Universal preschool for 3 and 4 year olds
Damn that's well over $1.3 trillion.


how's the "no wars" unkept promise working for you? Working up a pretty big tab and getting biglyier.

We are discussing financial promises made during elections. Let the grown ups talk.


Trump promised no new wars, that is a promise with huge financial consequences, in case you needed that to be spelled out.

We were discussing financial promises not kept.

If you want to pivot, we can talk about no new wars. This isn't a war, easy. No new wars. He's also been preaching for decades that Iran can't have a nuke. If you were paying attention, you knew this was coming.


Trump could have easily negotiated an extension of the JCPOA with Iran



Why would he have done that when he talked about how awful of a deal it was?

That's the problem, he shouldn't have locked himself into scrapping it without having a real plan for what happens next. Unless the plan was this, which seems to go against his "no new wars" campaign promise.


Anyone who voted for Trump should have known full well that Iran was an option if it presented itself. He was presented with a situation that he felt he had to act. None of us know what goes into the decision making of a president.

Clearly a lot of people did not think so, and that's why his approval rating has cratered.


We will see come midterms, his approval rating doesn't mean **** unless it materializes for the left in November.
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BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:

sycasey said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

ChudBear said:

Cal88 said:

ChudBear said:

cal83dls79 said:

ChudBear said:

DiabloWags said:

cal83dls79 said:

I'd put Trump clearly ahead in genocide and false payout promises departments with 2 years to go.


Never mind that at $5,000 for each American adult you're at $1.3 Trillion.
Congress will NEVER approve that.

More snake oil for his gullible followers.


What financial promises did Biden make and not deliver?

  • Up to $125,000 per person for student debt forgiveness
  • $2,000 stimulus checks
  • $8,000 child care credit (only managed half of this amount)
  • Free community college
  • Free public college for families earning under $125,000
  • $15 Federal minimum wage
  • 12 weeks paid family/medical leave
  • 7 paid sick days
  • Section 8 vouchers for every eligible family capping rent at 30% of income
  • Universal preschool for 3 and 4 year olds
Damn that's well over $1.3 trillion.


how's the "no wars" unkept promise working for you? Working up a pretty big tab and getting biglyier.

We are discussing financial promises made during elections. Let the grown ups talk.


Trump promised no new wars, that is a promise with huge financial consequences, in case you needed that to be spelled out.

We were discussing financial promises not kept.

If you want to pivot, we can talk about no new wars. This isn't a war, easy. No new wars. He's also been preaching for decades that Iran can't have a nuke. If you were paying attention, you knew this was coming.


Trump could have easily negotiated an extension of the JCPOA with Iran



Why would he have done that when he talked about how awful of a deal it was?

That's the problem, he shouldn't have locked himself into scrapping it without having a real plan for what happens next. Unless the plan was this, which seems to go against his "no new wars" campaign promise.


Anyone who voted for Trump should have known full well that Iran was an option if it presented itself. He was presented with a situation that he felt he had to act. None of us know what goes into the decision making of a president.


Trump jockeyed to gain Sheldon Adelson's favors in 2015 ahead of the elections. Adelson is the largest donor in history and only cares about Israel, Trump promised him to move the US embassy to Jerusalem and to allow Israel to annex the Golan Heights. In the most recent election cycle Trump promised him to scrap the JCPOA and to push for regime change in Iran.


I don't know the validity of most of what you just said so I'll repeat my previous response, Anyone who voted for Trump should have known full well that Iran was an option if it presented itself.

Because he said he was against wars and everything, he says is a lie?
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Big C said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:

sycasey said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

ChudBear said:

Cal88 said:

ChudBear said:

cal83dls79 said:

ChudBear said:

DiabloWags said:

cal83dls79 said:

I'd put Trump clearly ahead in genocide and false payout promises departments with 2 years to go.


Never mind that at $5,000 for each American adult you're at $1.3 Trillion.
Congress will NEVER approve that.

More snake oil for his gullible followers.


What financial promises did Biden make and not deliver?

  • Up to $125,000 per person for student debt forgiveness
  • $2,000 stimulus checks
  • $8,000 child care credit (only managed half of this amount)
  • Free community college
  • Free public college for families earning under $125,000
  • $15 Federal minimum wage
  • 12 weeks paid family/medical leave
  • 7 paid sick days
  • Section 8 vouchers for every eligible family capping rent at 30% of income
  • Universal preschool for 3 and 4 year olds
Damn that's well over $1.3 trillion.


how's the "no wars" unkept promise working for you? Working up a pretty big tab and getting biglyier.

We are discussing financial promises made during elections. Let the grown ups talk.


Trump promised no new wars, that is a promise with huge financial consequences, in case you needed that to be spelled out.

We were discussing financial promises not kept.

If you want to pivot, we can talk about no new wars. This isn't a war, easy. No new wars. He's also been preaching for decades that Iran can't have a nuke. If you were paying attention, you knew this was coming.


Trump could have easily negotiated an extension of the JCPOA with Iran



Why would he have done that when he talked about how awful of a deal it was?

That's the problem, he shouldn't have locked himself into scrapping it without having a real plan for what happens next. Unless the plan was this, which seems to go against his "no new wars" campaign promise.


Anyone who voted for Trump should have known full well that Iran was an option if it presented itself. He was presented with a situation that he felt he had to act. None of us know what goes into the decision making of a president.


Trump jockeyed to gain Sheldon Adelson's favors in 2015 ahead of the elections. Adelson is the largest donor in history and only cares about Israel, Trump promised him to move the US embassy to Jerusalem and to allow Israel to annex the Golan Heights. In the most recent election cycle Trump promised him to scrap the JCPOA and to push for regime change in Iran.


I don't know the validity of most of what you just said so I'll repeat my previous response, Anyone who voted for Trump should have known full well that Iran was an option if it presented itself.

Because he said he was against wars and everything, he says is a lie?


Its already been said in this thread but no, because Trump has talked about keeping Iran from getting a nuke for decades.
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oskidunker said:

Aunburdened said:

oskidunker said:

The Tax to fund Bart. Very well concealed in the proposition. No mention of Bart. Ridiculous. I voted no.

Which proposition are you referring to here?

prop 61

There is no Prop 61 on this year's ballot. Still not sure what you're talking about.
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Aunburdened said:

oskidunker said:

Aunburdened said:

oskidunker said:

The Tax to fund Bart. Very well concealed in the proposition. No mention of Bart. Ridiculous. I voted no.

Which proposition are you referring to here?

prop 61

There is no Prop 61 on this year's ballot. Still not sure what you're talking about.


Prop RTM is the only one I'm aware of that deals with Bart
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BearlySane88 said:

Big C said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:

sycasey said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

ChudBear said:

Cal88 said:

ChudBear said:

cal83dls79 said:

ChudBear said:

DiabloWags said:

cal83dls79 said:

I'd put Trump clearly ahead in genocide and false payout promises departments with 2 years to go.


Never mind that at $5,000 for each American adult you're at $1.3 Trillion.
Congress will NEVER approve that.

More snake oil for his gullible followers.


What financial promises did Biden make and not deliver?

  • Up to $125,000 per person for student debt forgiveness
  • $2,000 stimulus checks
  • $8,000 child care credit (only managed half of this amount)
  • Free community college
  • Free public college for families earning under $125,000
  • $15 Federal minimum wage
  • 12 weeks paid family/medical leave
  • 7 paid sick days
  • Section 8 vouchers for every eligible family capping rent at 30% of income
  • Universal preschool for 3 and 4 year olds
Damn that's well over $1.3 trillion.


how's the "no wars" unkept promise working for you? Working up a pretty big tab and getting biglyier.

We are discussing financial promises made during elections. Let the grown ups talk.


Trump promised no new wars, that is a promise with huge financial consequences, in case you needed that to be spelled out.

We were discussing financial promises not kept.

If you want to pivot, we can talk about no new wars. This isn't a war, easy. No new wars. He's also been preaching for decades that Iran can't have a nuke. If you were paying attention, you knew this was coming.


Trump could have easily negotiated an extension of the JCPOA with Iran



Why would he have done that when he talked about how awful of a deal it was?

That's the problem, he shouldn't have locked himself into scrapping it without having a real plan for what happens next. Unless the plan was this, which seems to go against his "no new wars" campaign promise.


Anyone who voted for Trump should have known full well that Iran was an option if it presented itself. He was presented with a situation that he felt he had to act. None of us know what goes into the decision making of a president.


Trump jockeyed to gain Sheldon Adelson's favors in 2015 ahead of the elections. Adelson is the largest donor in history and only cares about Israel, Trump promised him to move the US embassy to Jerusalem and to allow Israel to annex the Golan Heights. In the most recent election cycle Trump promised him to scrap the JCPOA and to push for regime change in Iran.


I don't know the validity of most of what you just said so I'll repeat my previous response, Anyone who voted for Trump should have known full well that Iran was an option if it presented itself.

Because he said he was against wars and everything, he says is a lie?


Its already been said in this thread but no, because Trump has talked about keeping Iran from getting a nuke for decades.

There are a lot of versions of this that don't involve going to war in Iran.
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sycasey said:

BearlySane88 said:

Big C said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:

sycasey said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

ChudBear said:

Cal88 said:

ChudBear said:

cal83dls79 said:

ChudBear said:

DiabloWags said:

cal83dls79 said:

I'd put Trump clearly ahead in genocide and false payout promises departments with 2 years to go.


Never mind that at $5,000 for each American adult you're at $1.3 Trillion.
Congress will NEVER approve that.

More snake oil for his gullible followers.


What financial promises did Biden make and not deliver?

  • Up to $125,000 per person for student debt forgiveness
  • $2,000 stimulus checks
  • $8,000 child care credit (only managed half of this amount)
  • Free community college
  • Free public college for families earning under $125,000
  • $15 Federal minimum wage
  • 12 weeks paid family/medical leave
  • 7 paid sick days
  • Section 8 vouchers for every eligible family capping rent at 30% of income
  • Universal preschool for 3 and 4 year olds
Damn that's well over $1.3 trillion.


how's the "no wars" unkept promise working for you? Working up a pretty big tab and getting biglyier.

We are discussing financial promises made during elections. Let the grown ups talk.


Trump promised no new wars, that is a promise with huge financial consequences, in case you needed that to be spelled out.

We were discussing financial promises not kept.

If you want to pivot, we can talk about no new wars. This isn't a war, easy. No new wars. He's also been preaching for decades that Iran can't have a nuke. If you were paying attention, you knew this was coming.


Trump could have easily negotiated an extension of the JCPOA with Iran



Why would he have done that when he talked about how awful of a deal it was?

That's the problem, he shouldn't have locked himself into scrapping it without having a real plan for what happens next. Unless the plan was this, which seems to go against his "no new wars" campaign promise.


Anyone who voted for Trump should have known full well that Iran was an option if it presented itself. He was presented with a situation that he felt he had to act. None of us know what goes into the decision making of a president.


Trump jockeyed to gain Sheldon Adelson's favors in 2015 ahead of the elections. Adelson is the largest donor in history and only cares about Israel, Trump promised him to move the US embassy to Jerusalem and to allow Israel to annex the Golan Heights. In the most recent election cycle Trump promised him to scrap the JCPOA and to push for regime change in Iran.


I don't know the validity of most of what you just said so I'll repeat my previous response, Anyone who voted for Trump should have known full well that Iran was an option if it presented itself.

Because he said he was against wars and everything, he says is a lie?


Its already been said in this thread but no, because Trump has talked about keeping Iran from getting a nuke for decades.

There are a lot of versions of this that don't involve going to war in Iran.


If you want the same situation to keep arising, sure. Lots of versions that just continue the bad deal in a different name.
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sycasey said:

BearlySane88 said:

Big C said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:

sycasey said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

ChudBear said:

Cal88 said:

ChudBear said:

cal83dls79 said:

ChudBear said:

DiabloWags said:

cal83dls79 said:

I'd put Trump clearly ahead in genocide and false payout promises departments with 2 years to go.


Never mind that at $5,000 for each American adult you're at $1.3 Trillion.
Congress will NEVER approve that.

More snake oil for his gullible followers.


What financial promises did Biden make and not deliver?

  • Up to $125,000 per person for student debt forgiveness
  • $2,000 stimulus checks
  • $8,000 child care credit (only managed half of this amount)
  • Free community college
  • Free public college for families earning under $125,000
  • $15 Federal minimum wage
  • 12 weeks paid family/medical leave
  • 7 paid sick days
  • Section 8 vouchers for every eligible family capping rent at 30% of income
  • Universal preschool for 3 and 4 year olds
Damn that's well over $1.3 trillion.


how's the "no wars" unkept promise working for you? Working up a pretty big tab and getting biglyier.

We are discussing financial promises made during elections. Let the grown ups talk.


Trump promised no new wars, that is a promise with huge financial consequences, in case you needed that to be spelled out.

We were discussing financial promises not kept.

If you want to pivot, we can talk about no new wars. This isn't a war, easy. No new wars. He's also been preaching for decades that Iran can't have a nuke. If you were paying attention, you knew this was coming.


Trump could have easily negotiated an extension of the JCPOA with Iran



Why would he have done that when he talked about how awful of a deal it was?

That's the problem, he shouldn't have locked himself into scrapping it without having a real plan for what happens next. Unless the plan was this, which seems to go against his "no new wars" campaign promise.


Anyone who voted for Trump should have known full well that Iran was an option if it presented itself. He was presented with a situation that he felt he had to act. None of us know what goes into the decision making of a president.


Trump jockeyed to gain Sheldon Adelson's favors in 2015 ahead of the elections. Adelson is the largest donor in history and only cares about Israel, Trump promised him to move the US embassy to Jerusalem and to allow Israel to annex the Golan Heights. In the most recent election cycle Trump promised him to scrap the JCPOA and to push for regime change in Iran.


I don't know the validity of most of what you just said so I'll repeat my previous response, Anyone who voted for Trump should have known full well that Iran was an option if it presented itself.

Because he said he was against wars and everything, he says is a lie?


Its already been said in this thread but no, because Trump has talked about keeping Iran from getting a nuke for decades.

There are a lot of versions of this that don't involve going to war in Iran.


I would bet a lot of money that when all is said and done, Trump's "deal" with IRAN winds up looking a lot like the JCPOA that he ripped up and withdrew from in May of 2018.

Never mind that he and his Defense Secretary had repeatedly told us that we "obliterated their nuclear capability" last Summer in Operation Midnight Hammer.

It's a CULT.

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DiabloWags said:

sycasey said:

BearlySane88 said:

Big C said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:

sycasey said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

ChudBear said:

Cal88 said:

ChudBear said:

cal83dls79 said:

ChudBear said:

DiabloWags said:

cal83dls79 said:

I'd put Trump clearly ahead in genocide and false payout promises departments with 2 years to go.


Never mind that at $5,000 for each American adult you're at $1.3 Trillion.
Congress will NEVER approve that.

More snake oil for his gullible followers.


What financial promises did Biden make and not deliver?

  • Up to $125,000 per person for student debt forgiveness
  • $2,000 stimulus checks
  • $8,000 child care credit (only managed half of this amount)
  • Free community college
  • Free public college for families earning under $125,000
  • $15 Federal minimum wage
  • 12 weeks paid family/medical leave
  • 7 paid sick days
  • Section 8 vouchers for every eligible family capping rent at 30% of income
  • Universal preschool for 3 and 4 year olds
Damn that's well over $1.3 trillion.


how's the "no wars" unkept promise working for you? Working up a pretty big tab and getting biglyier.

We are discussing financial promises made during elections. Let the grown ups talk.


Trump promised no new wars, that is a promise with huge financial consequences, in case you needed that to be spelled out.

We were discussing financial promises not kept.

If you want to pivot, we can talk about no new wars. This isn't a war, easy. No new wars. He's also been preaching for decades that Iran can't have a nuke. If you were paying attention, you knew this was coming.


Trump could have easily negotiated an extension of the JCPOA with Iran



Why would he have done that when he talked about how awful of a deal it was?

That's the problem, he shouldn't have locked himself into scrapping it without having a real plan for what happens next. Unless the plan was this, which seems to go against his "no new wars" campaign promise.


Anyone who voted for Trump should have known full well that Iran was an option if it presented itself. He was presented with a situation that he felt he had to act. None of us know what goes into the decision making of a president.


Trump jockeyed to gain Sheldon Adelson's favors in 2015 ahead of the elections. Adelson is the largest donor in history and only cares about Israel, Trump promised him to move the US embassy to Jerusalem and to allow Israel to annex the Golan Heights. In the most recent election cycle Trump promised him to scrap the JCPOA and to push for regime change in Iran.


I don't know the validity of most of what you just said so I'll repeat my previous response, Anyone who voted for Trump should have known full well that Iran was an option if it presented itself.

Because he said he was against wars and everything, he says is a lie?


Its already been said in this thread but no, because Trump has talked about keeping Iran from getting a nuke for decades.

There are a lot of versions of this that don't involve going to war in Iran.


I would bet a lot of money that when all is said and done, Trump's "deal" with IRAN winds up looking a lot like the JCPOA that he ripped up and withdrew from in May of 2018.

Never mind that he and his Defense Secretary had repeatedly told us that we "obliterated their nuclear capability" last Summer in Operation Midnight Hammer.



I would bet a lot of money that when all is said and done, no matter what happens, you will claim and Iranian victory.
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ChudBear said:

DiabloWags said:

sycasey said:

BearlySane88 said:

Big C said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:

sycasey said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

ChudBear said:

Cal88 said:

ChudBear said:

cal83dls79 said:

ChudBear said:

DiabloWags said:

cal83dls79 said:

I'd put Trump clearly ahead in genocide and false payout promises departments with 2 years to go.


Never mind that at $5,000 for each American adult you're at $1.3 Trillion.
Congress will NEVER approve that.

More snake oil for his gullible followers.


What financial promises did Biden make and not deliver?

  • Up to $125,000 per person for student debt forgiveness
  • $2,000 stimulus checks
  • $8,000 child care credit (only managed half of this amount)
  • Free community college
  • Free public college for families earning under $125,000
  • $15 Federal minimum wage
  • 12 weeks paid family/medical leave
  • 7 paid sick days
  • Section 8 vouchers for every eligible family capping rent at 30% of income
  • Universal preschool for 3 and 4 year olds
Damn that's well over $1.3 trillion.


how's the "no wars" unkept promise working for you? Working up a pretty big tab and getting biglyier.

We are discussing financial promises made during elections. Let the grown ups talk.


Trump promised no new wars, that is a promise with huge financial consequences, in case you needed that to be spelled out.

We were discussing financial promises not kept.

If you want to pivot, we can talk about no new wars. This isn't a war, easy. No new wars. He's also been preaching for decades that Iran can't have a nuke. If you were paying attention, you knew this was coming.


Trump could have easily negotiated an extension of the JCPOA with Iran



Why would he have done that when he talked about how awful of a deal it was?

That's the problem, he shouldn't have locked himself into scrapping it without having a real plan for what happens next. Unless the plan was this, which seems to go against his "no new wars" campaign promise.


Anyone who voted for Trump should have known full well that Iran was an option if it presented itself. He was presented with a situation that he felt he had to act. None of us know what goes into the decision making of a president.


Trump jockeyed to gain Sheldon Adelson's favors in 2015 ahead of the elections. Adelson is the largest donor in history and only cares about Israel, Trump promised him to move the US embassy to Jerusalem and to allow Israel to annex the Golan Heights. In the most recent election cycle Trump promised him to scrap the JCPOA and to push for regime change in Iran.


I don't know the validity of most of what you just said so I'll repeat my previous response, Anyone who voted for Trump should have known full well that Iran was an option if it presented itself.

Because he said he was against wars and everything, he says is a lie?


Its already been said in this thread but no, because Trump has talked about keeping Iran from getting a nuke for decades.

There are a lot of versions of this that don't involve going to war in Iran.


I would bet a lot of money that when all is said and done, Trump's "deal" with IRAN winds up looking a lot like the JCPOA that he ripped up and withdrew from in May of 2018.

Never mind that he and his Defense Secretary had repeatedly told us that we "obliterated their nuclear capability" last Summer in Operation Midnight Hammer.



I would bet a lot of money that when all is said and done, no matter what happens, you will claim and Iranian victory.

Iran has already won with how they have shown they can control the strait.

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SBGold said:

ChudBear said:

DiabloWags said:

sycasey said:

BearlySane88 said:

Big C said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:

sycasey said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

ChudBear said:

Cal88 said:

ChudBear said:

cal83dls79 said:

ChudBear said:

DiabloWags said:

cal83dls79 said:

I'd put Trump clearly ahead in genocide and false payout promises departments with 2 years to go.


Never mind that at $5,000 for each American adult you're at $1.3 Trillion.
Congress will NEVER approve that.

More snake oil for his gullible followers.


What financial promises did Biden make and not deliver?

  • Up to $125,000 per person for student debt forgiveness
  • $2,000 stimulus checks
  • $8,000 child care credit (only managed half of this amount)
  • Free community college
  • Free public college for families earning under $125,000
  • $15 Federal minimum wage
  • 12 weeks paid family/medical leave
  • 7 paid sick days
  • Section 8 vouchers for every eligible family capping rent at 30% of income
  • Universal preschool for 3 and 4 year olds
Damn that's well over $1.3 trillion.


how's the "no wars" unkept promise working for you? Working up a pretty big tab and getting biglyier.

We are discussing financial promises made during elections. Let the grown ups talk.


Trump promised no new wars, that is a promise with huge financial consequences, in case you needed that to be spelled out.

We were discussing financial promises not kept.

If you want to pivot, we can talk about no new wars. This isn't a war, easy. No new wars. He's also been preaching for decades that Iran can't have a nuke. If you were paying attention, you knew this was coming.


Trump could have easily negotiated an extension of the JCPOA with Iran



Why would he have done that when he talked about how awful of a deal it was?

That's the problem, he shouldn't have locked himself into scrapping it without having a real plan for what happens next. Unless the plan was this, which seems to go against his "no new wars" campaign promise.


Anyone who voted for Trump should have known full well that Iran was an option if it presented itself. He was presented with a situation that he felt he had to act. None of us know what goes into the decision making of a president.


Trump jockeyed to gain Sheldon Adelson's favors in 2015 ahead of the elections. Adelson is the largest donor in history and only cares about Israel, Trump promised him to move the US embassy to Jerusalem and to allow Israel to annex the Golan Heights. In the most recent election cycle Trump promised him to scrap the JCPOA and to push for regime change in Iran.


I don't know the validity of most of what you just said so I'll repeat my previous response, Anyone who voted for Trump should have known full well that Iran was an option if it presented itself.

Because he said he was against wars and everything, he says is a lie?


Its already been said in this thread but no, because Trump has talked about keeping Iran from getting a nuke for decades.

There are a lot of versions of this that don't involve going to war in Iran.


I would bet a lot of money that when all is said and done, Trump's "deal" with IRAN winds up looking a lot like the JCPOA that he ripped up and withdrew from in May of 2018.

Never mind that he and his Defense Secretary had repeatedly told us that we "obliterated their nuclear capability" last Summer in Operation Midnight Hammer.



I would bet a lot of money that when all is said and done, no matter what happens, you will claim and Iranian victory.

Iran has already won with how they have shown they can control the strait.

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What control? How much Iranian oil is getting through?
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I'd put Trump clearly ahead in genocide and false payout promises departments with 2 years to go.


Never mind that at $5,000 for each American adult you're at $1.3 Trillion.
Congress will NEVER approve that.

More snake oil for his gullible followers.


What financial promises did Biden make and not deliver?

  • Up to $125,000 per person for student debt forgiveness
  • $2,000 stimulus checks
  • $8,000 child care credit (only managed half of this amount)
  • Free community college
  • Free public college for families earning under $125,000
  • $15 Federal minimum wage
  • 12 weeks paid family/medical leave
  • 7 paid sick days
  • Section 8 vouchers for every eligible family capping rent at 30% of income
  • Universal preschool for 3 and 4 year olds
Damn that's well over $1.3 trillion.


how's the "no wars" unkept promise working for you? Working up a pretty big tab and getting biglyier.

We are discussing financial promises made during elections. Let the grown ups talk.


Trump promised no new wars, that is a promise with huge financial consequences, in case you needed that to be spelled out.

We were discussing financial promises not kept.

If you want to pivot, we can talk about no new wars. This isn't a war, easy. No new wars. He's also been preaching for decades that Iran can't have a nuke. If you were paying attention, you knew this was coming.


Trump could have easily negotiated an extension of the JCPOA with Iran



Why would he have done that when he talked about how awful of a deal it was?

That's the problem, he shouldn't have locked himself into scrapping it without having a real plan for what happens next. Unless the plan was this, which seems to go against his "no new wars" campaign promise.


Anyone who voted for Trump should have known full well that Iran was an option if it presented itself. He was presented with a situation that he felt he had to act. None of us know what goes into the decision making of a president.


Trump jockeyed to gain Sheldon Adelson's favors in 2015 ahead of the elections. Adelson is the largest donor in history and only cares about Israel, Trump promised him to move the US embassy to Jerusalem and to allow Israel to annex the Golan Heights. In the most recent election cycle Trump promised him to scrap the JCPOA and to push for regime change in Iran.


I don't know the validity of most of what you just said so I'll repeat my previous response, Anyone who voted for Trump should have known full well that Iran was an option if it presented itself.

Because he said he was against wars and everything, he says is a lie?


Its already been said in this thread but no, because Trump has talked about keeping Iran from getting a nuke for decades.

There are a lot of versions of this that don't involve going to war in Iran.


I would bet a lot of money that when all is said and done, Trump's "deal" with IRAN winds up looking a lot like the JCPOA that he ripped up and withdrew from in May of 2018.

Probably. They'll just have to find a way to call it something else so it doesn't look like Trump is just putting back in place the thing that he trashed for so long.
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