bearister said:
...and fresh in from the Everything Happens for a Reason, it's All Part of God's Plan Dept.:
She was the aggressor': Former Liberty student alleges sexual encounter with Becki Falwell
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/27/becki-falwell-affair-liberty-university-student-band-jerry-402559
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/08/27/becki-falwell-affair-liberty-university-student-band-jerry-402559
Hey Golden Shower, no one has to denigrate tRump...he does it himself. Four years of destroying a great nation and you are willing to sign up for four more years.Golden One said:
You leftists are absolutely hilarious!! You're pulling out every stop to denigrate Trump, his acceptance speech, and the RNC convention. It's pretty obvious that you're very nervous right now. The Republicans pulled off a model convention that completely outshined the technology-challenged Democrat show. Any objective observer (especially Independents) had to be impressed with this week's convention and the diversity of speakers. Average Americans were featured, not life-long politicians. Impressive. Very impressive.
This week has given a big boost to the Trump campaign and dealt a serious blow to Biden. Now Biden has to face up to the question of whether he will debate Trump or not. It's a lose-lose decision for the badly demented Biden. If he decides not to debate, he will be viewed as a coward who doesn't have the courage to be President. If he decides to debate, Trump will absolutely kill him. Poor Biden. He may just roll up in a corner of his basement for weeks.
Liberalism is a mental illness.
calpoly said:Hey Golden Shower, no one has to denigrate tRump...he does it himself. Four years of destroying a great nation and you are willing to sign up for four more years.Golden One said:
You leftists are absolutely hilarious!! You're pulling out every stop to denigrate Trump, his acceptance speech, and the RNC convention. It's pretty obvious that you're very nervous right now. The Republicans pulled off a model convention that completely outshined the technology-challenged Democrat show. Any objective observer (especially Independents) had to be impressed with this week's convention and the diversity of speakers. Average Americans were featured, not life-long politicians. Impressive. Very impressive.
This week has given a big boost to the Trump campaign and dealt a serious blow to Biden. Now Biden has to face up to the question of whether he will debate Trump or not. It's a lose-lose decision for the badly demented Biden. If he decides not to debate, he will be viewed as a coward who doesn't have the courage to be President. If he decides to debate, Trump will absolutely kill him. Poor Biden. He may just roll up in a corner of his basement for weeks.
Liberalism is a mental illness.
Golden One said:
You leftists are absolutely hilarious!! You're pulling out every stop to denigrate Trump, his acceptance speech, and the RNC convention. It's pretty obvious that you're very nervous right now. The Republicans pulled off a model convention that completely outshined the technology-challenged Democrat show. Any objective observer (especially Independents) had to be impressed with this week's convention and the diversity of speakers. Average Americans were featured, not life-long politicians. Impressive. Very impressive.
This week has given a big boost to the Trump campaign and dealt a serious blow to Biden. Now Biden has to face up to the question of whether he will debate Trump or not. It's a lose-lose decision for the badly demented Biden. If he decides not to debate, he will be viewed as a coward who doesn't have the courage to be President. If he decides to debate, Trump will absolutely kill him. Poor Biden. He may just roll up in a corner of his basement for weeks.
Liberalism is a mental illness.
Only a fool (Golden Shower) would be dumb enough to buy that pitch!dimitrig said:calpoly said:Hey Golden Shower, no one has to denigrate tRump...he does it himself. Four years of destroying a great nation and you are willing to sign up for four more years.Golden One said:
You leftists are absolutely hilarious!! You're pulling out every stop to denigrate Trump, his acceptance speech, and the RNC convention. It's pretty obvious that you're very nervous right now. The Republicans pulled off a model convention that completely outshined the technology-challenged Democrat show. Any objective observer (especially Independents) had to be impressed with this week's convention and the diversity of speakers. Average Americans were featured, not life-long politicians. Impressive. Very impressive.
This week has given a big boost to the Trump campaign and dealt a serious blow to Biden. Now Biden has to face up to the question of whether he will debate Trump or not. It's a lose-lose decision for the badly demented Biden. If he decides not to debate, he will be viewed as a coward who doesn't have the courage to be President. If he decides to debate, Trump will absolutely kill him. Poor Biden. He may just roll up in a corner of his basement for weeks.
Liberalism is a mental illness.
Donald Trump sells himself at RNC: Reelect me to fix the problems I created
(Source: USA Today editorial board)
Lies, lies, and more damn lies.Golden One said:
You leftists are absolutely hilarious!! You're pulling out every stop to denigrate Trump, his acceptance speech, and the RNC convention. It's pretty obvious that you're very nervous right now. The Republicans pulled off a model convention that completely outshined the technology-challenged Democrat show. Any objective observer (especially Independents) had to be impressed with this week's convention and the diversity of speakers. Average Americans were featured, not life-long politicians. Impressive. Very impressive.
This week has given a big boost to the Trump campaign and dealt a serious blow to Biden. Now Biden has to face up to the question of whether he will debate Trump or not. It's a lose-lose decision for the badly demented Biden. If he decides not to debate, he will be viewed as a coward who doesn't have the courage to be President. If he decides to debate, Trump will absolutely kill him. Poor Biden. He may just roll up in a corner of his basement for weeks.
Liberalism is a mental illness.
You keep talking in such childish terms, like this is a sporting contest and you are winning. The things you boast about and that excite you are not good things. They are shameful things. Your team "winning", or you perceiving that they are, does not eradicate the moral and ethical failings you are endorsing.Golden One said:
You leftists are absolutely hilarious!! You're pulling out every stop to denigrate Trump, his acceptance speech, and the RNC convention. It's pretty obvious that you're very nervous right now. The Republicans pulled off a model convention that completely outshined the technology-challenged Democrat show. Any objective observer (especially Independents) had to be impressed with this week's convention and the diversity of speakers. Average Americans were featured, not life-long politicians. Impressive. Very impressive.
This week has given a big boost to the Trump campaign and dealt a serious blow to Biden. Now Biden has to face up to the question of whether he will debate Trump or not. It's a lose-lose decision for the badly demented Biden. If he decides not to debate, he will be viewed as a coward who doesn't have the courage to be President. If he decides to debate, Trump will absolutely kill him. Poor Biden. He may just roll up in a corner of his basement for weeks.
Liberalism is a mental illness.
That's the entire raison d'etre for conservatives these days: just win, baby. The policy goals barely even matter anymore. It's all just about winning. Don't believe me? Listen to the party itself. They didn't even write a policy platform this year.blungld said:You keep talking in such childish terms, like this is a sporting contest and you are winning. The things you boast about and that excite you are not good things. They are shameful things. Your team "winning", or you perceiving that they are, does not eradicate the moral and ethical failings you are endorsing.Golden One said:
You leftists are absolutely hilarious!! You're pulling out every stop to denigrate Trump, his acceptance speech, and the RNC convention. It's pretty obvious that you're very nervous right now. The Republicans pulled off a model convention that completely outshined the technology-challenged Democrat show. Any objective observer (especially Independents) had to be impressed with this week's convention and the diversity of speakers. Average Americans were featured, not life-long politicians. Impressive. Very impressive.
This week has given a big boost to the Trump campaign and dealt a serious blow to Biden. Now Biden has to face up to the question of whether he will debate Trump or not. It's a lose-lose decision for the badly demented Biden. If he decides not to debate, he will be viewed as a coward who doesn't have the courage to be President. If he decides to debate, Trump will absolutely kill him. Poor Biden. He may just roll up in a corner of his basement for weeks.
Liberalism is a mental illness.
blungld said:You keep talking in such childish terms, like this is a sporting contest and you are winning. The things you boast about and that excite you are not good things. They are shameful things. Your team "winning", or you perceiving that they are, does not eradicate the moral and ethical failings you are endorsing.Golden One said:
You leftists are absolutely hilarious!! You're pulling out every stop to denigrate Trump, his acceptance speech, and the RNC convention. It's pretty obvious that you're very nervous right now. The Republicans pulled off a model convention that completely outshined the technology-challenged Democrat show. Any objective observer (especially Independents) had to be impressed with this week's convention and the diversity of speakers. Average Americans were featured, not life-long politicians. Impressive. Very impressive.
This week has given a big boost to the Trump campaign and dealt a serious blow to Biden. Now Biden has to face up to the question of whether he will debate Trump or not. It's a lose-lose decision for the badly demented Biden. If he decides not to debate, he will be viewed as a coward who doesn't have the courage to be President. If he decides to debate, Trump will absolutely kill him. Poor Biden. He may just roll up in a corner of his basement for weeks.
Liberalism is a mental illness.
Yes, of course "we" are afraid that Trump might win. Isn't that clear that we fear for the future of the country and think this is the most dangerous man in our nation's history? Why wouldn't we be worried? What does that prove?
5 years ago if we listed all the things that Trump would do under his presidency, you would have sworn he would never do these things, we are just paranoid. If forced to answer, you would have agreed that the things on hat list were unethical and unAmerican and criminal. Now you are amused by these things. Cheer for them. Celebrate them and attack anyone who sees them for what they really are.
I asked in another thread, but I am asking you directly here. If Trump were offered 50K dead Americans from pandemic but he loses election, or 200K dead American but he wins election, which would he choose. I KNOW, you know the answer to that question. So, how can you support this man and believe he should run the nation?
If Biden were given the same choice, you KNOW how he would answer.
One is a good man, with some policies you might disagree with (but most of the things you would say about him are not true). The other is a corrupt bad man who you might agree with SOME of his policies (but most of the things you would say about him are NOT true). Is there any chance you will ever step back and look at this objectively. Take stock of what you are ACTUALLY supporting? You are not exhibiting loyalty to a political ideology, or set of strongly held ethical beliefs, you are being tricked into believing that that is what you are doing while you enable a deceitful criminal to actually destroy the country. He is actually destroying the country. That isn't a liberal whine or a point for my team, it is literally true. You can't pretend like all the misery and discord and unlawfulness is just magically rising up against him, he is creating all of this. These are the RESULTS of his presidency, not the problems he is solving.
I've probably wasted five minutes trying to reason with you, but this is not a sporting event. I don't think you really understand how bad things are going to get the next four years if he is elected. You literally will not recognize the country and the amount of terror, and fear, and turmoil will keep escalating. The logical conclusion of this man and his world view is not a happier place to live. BIden is perhaps not the greatest candidate in the world, but you don't have to think so to try and stave off the reality that Trump is creating. This isn't an attack on conservatism or the GOP, this is a particular person and movement that is poison. Go back to voting GOP the rest of your life, but see this dictator for who he is before the power is consolidated too far and there is no going back.
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The Republican party no longer has any guiding or governing philosophy. Today, the GOP is preternaturally incapable, as is Trump, of projecting into the future. Even with three years under their belt, they couldn't come up with a platform on which to run. There's a reason for that: Because the GOP no longer has any core beliefs that exist outside of Trump's whims. So they can't commit to anything ahead of time because they don't know where he might land in the future. As Timothy Snyder notes in On Authoritarianism, cults of personality cannot look into the future, because they can't control it.
Like all good authoritarians, Trump and his collaborators understand that the past is where they plant their flag.
Look at how America used to be, they proclaim. Trump will make it so again.
We must re-elect him or they will take all you've worked for, all you hold dear, your very way of life.
If this is destruction, I'll take a lot more it it!!calpoly said:Hey Golden Shower, no one has to denigrate tRump...he does it himself. Four years of destroying a great nation and you are willing to sign up for four more years.Golden One said:
You leftists are absolutely hilarious!! You're pulling out every stop to denigrate Trump, his acceptance speech, and the RNC convention. It's pretty obvious that you're very nervous right now. The Republicans pulled off a model convention that completely outshined the technology-challenged Democrat show. Any objective observer (especially Independents) had to be impressed with this week's convention and the diversity of speakers. Average Americans were featured, not life-long politicians. Impressive. Very impressive.
This week has given a big boost to the Trump campaign and dealt a serious blow to Biden. Now Biden has to face up to the question of whether he will debate Trump or not. It's a lose-lose decision for the badly demented Biden. If he decides not to debate, he will be viewed as a coward who doesn't have the courage to be President. If he decides to debate, Trump will absolutely kill him. Poor Biden. He may just roll up in a corner of his basement for weeks.
Liberalism is a mental illness.
Only a fool like Cal Poly Dropout would vote for a candidate with Stage 3 Dementia!calpoly said:Only a fool (Golden Shower) would be dumb enough to buy that pitch!dimitrig said:calpoly said:Hey Golden Shower, no one has to denigrate tRump...he does it himself. Four years of destroying a great nation and you are willing to sign up for four more years.Golden One said:
You leftists are absolutely hilarious!! You're pulling out every stop to denigrate Trump, his acceptance speech, and the RNC convention. It's pretty obvious that you're very nervous right now. The Republicans pulled off a model convention that completely outshined the technology-challenged Democrat show. Any objective observer (especially Independents) had to be impressed with this week's convention and the diversity of speakers. Average Americans were featured, not life-long politicians. Impressive. Very impressive.
This week has given a big boost to the Trump campaign and dealt a serious blow to Biden. Now Biden has to face up to the question of whether he will debate Trump or not. It's a lose-lose decision for the badly demented Biden. If he decides not to debate, he will be viewed as a coward who doesn't have the courage to be President. If he decides to debate, Trump will absolutely kill him. Poor Biden. He may just roll up in a corner of his basement for weeks.
Liberalism is a mental illness.
Donald Trump sells himself at RNC: Reelect me to fix the problems I created
(Source: USA Today editorial board)
The only lies are coming from the Democrats. They can't stand to acknowledge all of the success of the last 3 1/2 years. Aren't you embarrassed and humiliated?BearNIt said:Lies, lies, and more damn lies.Golden One said:
You leftists are absolutely hilarious!! You're pulling out every stop to denigrate Trump, his acceptance speech, and the RNC convention. It's pretty obvious that you're very nervous right now. The Republicans pulled off a model convention that completely outshined the technology-challenged Democrat show. Any objective observer (especially Independents) had to be impressed with this week's convention and the diversity of speakers. Average Americans were featured, not life-long politicians. Impressive. Very impressive.
This week has given a big boost to the Trump campaign and dealt a serious blow to Biden. Now Biden has to face up to the question of whether he will debate Trump or not. It's a lose-lose decision for the badly demented Biden. If he decides not to debate, he will be viewed as a coward who doesn't have the courage to be President. If he decides to debate, Trump will absolutely kill him. Poor Biden. He may just roll up in a corner of his basement for weeks.
Liberalism is a mental illness.
Apparently there were alternative truths on display at the RNC Convention.
"The 2020 Republican National Convention painted an alternate reality for the country, portraying President Donald Trump as a tolerant, levelheaded leader who acted swiftly to contain COVID-19."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-rnc-was-pure-propaganda-designed-to-sanitize-trumps-damning-record-on-race-immigration-women-and-the-pandemic/ar-BB18rOPx?li=BBnb7Kz
Bearister, you're right that civil processes do not work against criminals. That's exactly why authorities in Portland, Kenosha, Chicago, NYC, etc. need to act more forcibly against the rioters, anarchists, arsonsists, and thugs. Civility doesn't work with them.bearister said:
" It's pretty obvious that you're very nervous right now."
Who is nervous? How many times do I have to post here that civil processes do not work against criminals. It is like when your grandma in San Jose filed a lawsuit against the Bonanno Family for selling her shoddy aluminum siding for her house. How did that work out? tRump will "win" the election.
"The cost of A tRump Second Term would be measured in increased drug overdoses, depression, alcohol addiction, suicides, heart attacks, economic devastation and more."
You're delusional if you think Biden is a "good" man. He is a life-long politician with a closet full of baggage. Plus is is suffering from Stage 3 dementia. Do you really want a man who is approaching full-blown Alzheimers to be running our country? Is this your way of looking forward to a socialist takeover of our country?blungld said:You keep talking in such childish terms, like this is a sporting contest and you are winning. The things you boast about and that excite you are not good things. They are shameful things. Your team "winning", or you perceiving that they are, does not eradicate the moral and ethical failings you are endorsing.Golden One said:
You leftists are absolutely hilarious!! You're pulling out every stop to denigrate Trump, his acceptance speech, and the RNC convention. It's pretty obvious that you're very nervous right now. The Republicans pulled off a model convention that completely outshined the technology-challenged Democrat show. Any objective observer (especially Independents) had to be impressed with this week's convention and the diversity of speakers. Average Americans were featured, not life-long politicians. Impressive. Very impressive.
This week has given a big boost to the Trump campaign and dealt a serious blow to Biden. Now Biden has to face up to the question of whether he will debate Trump or not. It's a lose-lose decision for the badly demented Biden. If he decides not to debate, he will be viewed as a coward who doesn't have the courage to be President. If he decides to debate, Trump will absolutely kill him. Poor Biden. He may just roll up in a corner of his basement for weeks.
Liberalism is a mental illness.
Yes, of course "we" are afraid that Trump might win. Isn't that clear that we fear for the future of the country and think this is the most dangerous man in our nation's history? Why wouldn't we be worried? What does that prove?
5 years ago if we listed all the things that Trump would do under his presidency, you would have sworn he would never do these things, we are just paranoid. If forced to answer, you would have agreed that the things on hat list were unethical and unAmerican and criminal. Now you are amused by these things. Cheer for them. Celebrate them and attack anyone who sees them for what they really are.
I asked in another thread, but I am asking you directly here. If Trump were offered 50K dead Americans from pandemic but he loses election, or 200K dead American but he wins election, which would he choose. I KNOW, you know the answer to that question. So, how can you support this man and believe he should run the nation?
If Biden were given the same choice, you KNOW how he would answer.
One is a good man, with some policies you might disagree with (but most of the things you would say about him are not true). The other is a corrupt bad man who you might agree with SOME of his policies (but most of the things you would say about him are NOT true). Is there any chance you will ever step back and look at this objectively. Take stock of what you are ACTUALLY supporting? You are not exhibiting loyalty to a political ideology, or set of strongly held ethical beliefs, you are being tricked into believing that that is what you are doing while you enable a deceitful criminal to actually destroy the country. He is actually destroying the country. That isn't a liberal whine or a point for my team, it is literally true. You can't pretend like all the misery and discord and unlawfulness is just magically rising up against him, he is creating all of this. These are the RESULTS of his presidency, not the problems he is solving.
I've probably wasted five minutes trying to reason with you, but this is not a sporting event. I don't think you really understand how bad things are going to get the next four years if he is elected. You literally will not recognize the country and the amount of terror, and fear, and turmoil will keep escalating. The logical conclusion of this man and his world view is not a happier place to live. BIden is perhaps not the greatest candidate in the world, but you don't have to think so to try and stave off the reality that Trump is creating. This isn't an attack on conservatism or the GOP, this is a particular person and movement that is poison. Go back to voting GOP the rest of your life, but see this dictator for who he is before the power is consolidated too far and there is no going back.
If you haven't noticed, Biden's lead is slipping. Trump is already overtaking him in the key battleground states. But I'm glad that you think you're winning, because that's motivation for the Republicans.sycasey said:That's the entire raison d'etre for conservatives these days: just win, baby. The policy goals barely even matter anymore. It's all just about winning. Don't believe me? Listen to the party itself. They didn't even write a policy platform this year.blungld said:You keep talking in such childish terms, like this is a sporting contest and you are winning. The things you boast about and that excite you are not good things. They are shameful things. Your team "winning", or you perceiving that they are, does not eradicate the moral and ethical failings you are endorsing.Golden One said:
You leftists are absolutely hilarious!! You're pulling out every stop to denigrate Trump, his acceptance speech, and the RNC convention. It's pretty obvious that you're very nervous right now. The Republicans pulled off a model convention that completely outshined the technology-challenged Democrat show. Any objective observer (especially Independents) had to be impressed with this week's convention and the diversity of speakers. Average Americans were featured, not life-long politicians. Impressive. Very impressive.
This week has given a big boost to the Trump campaign and dealt a serious blow to Biden. Now Biden has to face up to the question of whether he will debate Trump or not. It's a lose-lose decision for the badly demented Biden. If he decides not to debate, he will be viewed as a coward who doesn't have the courage to be President. If he decides to debate, Trump will absolutely kill him. Poor Biden. He may just roll up in a corner of his basement for weeks.
Liberalism is a mental illness.
Never mind that by any objective measure, Trump is NOT winning. He's been trailing in polls consistently for months. There's plenty of delusion at play here too. As long as we act like we're winning, we're winning, Even if Biden wins in a landslide, I expect posts here telling us why Republicans and conservatives are really winning in the long run. You will never get through to this kind of person.
WOW, I gotta admit I always thought you were a big fan of Reagan. Goes to show that you can't stereotype people.Golden One said:You're delusional if you think Biden is a "good" man. He is a life-long politician with a closet full of baggage. Plus is is suffering from Stage 3 dementia. Do you really want a man who is approaching full-blown Alzheimers to be running our country? Is this your way of looking forward to a socialist takeover of our country?blungld said:You keep talking in such childish terms, like this is a sporting contest and you are winning. The things you boast about and that excite you are not good things. They are shameful things. Your team "winning", or you perceiving that they are, does not eradicate the moral and ethical failings you are endorsing.Golden One said:
You leftists are absolutely hilarious!! You're pulling out every stop to denigrate Trump, his acceptance speech, and the RNC convention. It's pretty obvious that you're very nervous right now. The Republicans pulled off a model convention that completely outshined the technology-challenged Democrat show. Any objective observer (especially Independents) had to be impressed with this week's convention and the diversity of speakers. Average Americans were featured, not life-long politicians. Impressive. Very impressive.
This week has given a big boost to the Trump campaign and dealt a serious blow to Biden. Now Biden has to face up to the question of whether he will debate Trump or not. It's a lose-lose decision for the badly demented Biden. If he decides not to debate, he will be viewed as a coward who doesn't have the courage to be President. If he decides to debate, Trump will absolutely kill him. Poor Biden. He may just roll up in a corner of his basement for weeks.
Liberalism is a mental illness.
Yes, of course "we" are afraid that Trump might win. Isn't that clear that we fear for the future of the country and think this is the most dangerous man in our nation's history? Why wouldn't we be worried? What does that prove?
5 years ago if we listed all the things that Trump would do under his presidency, you would have sworn he would never do these things, we are just paranoid. If forced to answer, you would have agreed that the things on hat list were unethical and unAmerican and criminal. Now you are amused by these things. Cheer for them. Celebrate them and attack anyone who sees them for what they really are.
I asked in another thread, but I am asking you directly here. If Trump were offered 50K dead Americans from pandemic but he loses election, or 200K dead American but he wins election, which would he choose. I KNOW, you know the answer to that question. So, how can you support this man and believe he should run the nation?
If Biden were given the same choice, you KNOW how he would answer.
One is a good man, with some policies you might disagree with (but most of the things you would say about him are not true). The other is a corrupt bad man who you might agree with SOME of his policies (but most of the things you would say about him are NOT true). Is there any chance you will ever step back and look at this objectively. Take stock of what you are ACTUALLY supporting? You are not exhibiting loyalty to a political ideology, or set of strongly held ethical beliefs, you are being tricked into believing that that is what you are doing while you enable a deceitful criminal to actually destroy the country. He is actually destroying the country. That isn't a liberal whine or a point for my team, it is literally true. You can't pretend like all the misery and discord and unlawfulness is just magically rising up against him, he is creating all of this. These are the RESULTS of his presidency, not the problems he is solving.
I've probably wasted five minutes trying to reason with you, but this is not a sporting event. I don't think you really understand how bad things are going to get the next four years if he is elected. You literally will not recognize the country and the amount of terror, and fear, and turmoil will keep escalating. The logical conclusion of this man and his world view is not a happier place to live. BIden is perhaps not the greatest candidate in the world, but you don't have to think so to try and stave off the reality that Trump is creating. This isn't an attack on conservatism or the GOP, this is a particular person and movement that is poison. Go back to voting GOP the rest of your life, but see this dictator for who he is before the power is consolidated too far and there is no going back.
Liberalism is a mental illness.
Your half sister and brother-in-law sound very smart. The risk to this country is not Trump, it's Biden, Sanders, AOC, Pelosi, Schumer, and their socialist agenda. The Democrats today are not the party of Truman, Kennedy, Humphrey, and Johnson. Believe it or not, I was a Democrat in the days of John F. Kennedy, and I strongly supported and campaigned for him. But as the party took a hard turn to the left, I jumped the ship. Since then, they have moved even further left to the point that socialism is now being openly advocated by many of their leaders. They are the real risk to our country and need to be soundly defeated.dimitrig said:blungld said:You keep talking in such childish terms, like this is a sporting contest and you are winning. The things you boast about and that excite you are not good things. They are shameful things. Your team "winning", or you perceiving that they are, does not eradicate the moral and ethical failings you are endorsing.Golden One said:
You leftists are absolutely hilarious!! You're pulling out every stop to denigrate Trump, his acceptance speech, and the RNC convention. It's pretty obvious that you're very nervous right now. The Republicans pulled off a model convention that completely outshined the technology-challenged Democrat show. Any objective observer (especially Independents) had to be impressed with this week's convention and the diversity of speakers. Average Americans were featured, not life-long politicians. Impressive. Very impressive.
This week has given a big boost to the Trump campaign and dealt a serious blow to Biden. Now Biden has to face up to the question of whether he will debate Trump or not. It's a lose-lose decision for the badly demented Biden. If he decides not to debate, he will be viewed as a coward who doesn't have the courage to be President. If he decides to debate, Trump will absolutely kill him. Poor Biden. He may just roll up in a corner of his basement for weeks.
Liberalism is a mental illness.
Yes, of course "we" are afraid that Trump might win. Isn't that clear that we fear for the future of the country and think this is the most dangerous man in our nation's history? Why wouldn't we be worried? What does that prove?
5 years ago if we listed all the things that Trump would do under his presidency, you would have sworn he would never do these things, we are just paranoid. If forced to answer, you would have agreed that the things on hat list were unethical and unAmerican and criminal. Now you are amused by these things. Cheer for them. Celebrate them and attack anyone who sees them for what they really are.
I asked in another thread, but I am asking you directly here. If Trump were offered 50K dead Americans from pandemic but he loses election, or 200K dead American but he wins election, which would he choose. I KNOW, you know the answer to that question. So, how can you support this man and believe he should run the nation?
If Biden were given the same choice, you KNOW how he would answer.
One is a good man, with some policies you might disagree with (but most of the things you would say about him are not true). The other is a corrupt bad man who you might agree with SOME of his policies (but most of the things you would say about him are NOT true). Is there any chance you will ever step back and look at this objectively. Take stock of what you are ACTUALLY supporting? You are not exhibiting loyalty to a political ideology, or set of strongly held ethical beliefs, you are being tricked into believing that that is what you are doing while you enable a deceitful criminal to actually destroy the country. He is actually destroying the country. That isn't a liberal whine or a point for my team, it is literally true. You can't pretend like all the misery and discord and unlawfulness is just magically rising up against him, he is creating all of this. These are the RESULTS of his presidency, not the problems he is solving.
I've probably wasted five minutes trying to reason with you, but this is not a sporting event. I don't think you really understand how bad things are going to get the next four years if he is elected. You literally will not recognize the country and the amount of terror, and fear, and turmoil will keep escalating. The logical conclusion of this man and his world view is not a happier place to live. BIden is perhaps not the greatest candidate in the world, but you don't have to think so to try and stave off the reality that Trump is creating. This isn't an attack on conservatism or the GOP, this is a particular person and movement that is poison. Go back to voting GOP the rest of your life, but see this dictator for who he is before the power is consolidated too far and there is no going back.
Well said.
My half-sister, my brother-in-law her husband, and her father-in-law are minorities (mix of Latin-American, African-American, Native American, Northern European, and Sephardic Jewish) but if you saw them without knowing you might just call them "black" or "Latino." Their adult children have the same dark-skinned appearance. They are religious people who go to church regularly and tithe even at times when things were hard financially. They aren't hardcore MAGA Republicans and they don't even watch Fox News, but they are Republicans who voted for Trump. I am not really sure all the reasons why but I suspect their religion plays a part.
Anyway, it came up in discussion with my mom (who is the Northern European component and who cannot stand Trump) that they support the police, think BLM are a bunch of thugs, and are supporting Trump for re-election. As a result of these beliefs all of their adult children (who also have dark skin) have stopped speaking to them. My mom said that she asked my sister "Don't you remember all of the things we went through as a mixed race family and all of names people called you at school?" My sister claims she doesn't and that she always got along with people of all races. Well, that is true, my sister had mostly white and Latino friends but that doesn't mean that some people didn't say and do some awful things. It's like she has completely blocked that out of her mind. What about what her own kids went through? She refuses to believe them or thinks those are isolated occurrences.
All of this is background to say that I think we as a family are fine that she and her husband vote Republican. That's their right. I think it is a little strange for people in their circumstances, but it's a free country. However, what has really divided us isn't that she is Republican and we aren't. It's that she supports Donald Trump! She got a pass the first time but to vote for him again shows that she hasn't been paying any attention to what is going on in this country.
I don't care what your politics are, Democrat or Republican, people like Trump are dangerous. Trump is actively working to tear this country apart for his own benefit. People never stopped talking to each other because George W. Bush won the election, even though a lot of people were very bitter about that. People never ignored or - worse - gloated at the suffering of fellow Americans. As you said, Trump has been poison to this democracy.
I have a well-educated gun-loving libertarian friend who hates big-government Democrats. While he doesn't fawn over the GOP either, he never resists an opportunity to bash politicians like Feinstein. His hate for Feinstein in particular runs deep. I was pleasantly surprised to hear that this deeply religious card-carrying lifetime NRA member cannot stand Donald Trump. I doubt he will vote for Biden either, but he recognizes Trump for the charlatan that he is. That is what I would have expected of an educated man of principle who loves this country more than he loves his guns. It is too bad there aren't enough of those people in the GOP.
Obviously, your hold on reality is tenuous at best if you don't think that Biden is a "good" man. Hell, even Republicans who have worked with Biden think he is a "good" man. (See John McCain & Lindsey Grahm) Nobody who has worked with Captain Catastrophe thinks he is a "good" man. (See John McCain, Ted Cruz, & Lindsey Grahm) Captain Catastrophe's speech bore no resemblance to any type of reality facing this country and if you question that see the fact-checking of his acceptance speech where he made 20 false or misleading statements.Golden One said:You're delusional if you think Biden is a "good" man. He is a life-long politician with a closet full of baggage. Plus is is suffering from Stage 3 dementia. Do you really want a man who is approaching full-blown Alzheimers to be running our country? Is this your way of looking forward to a socialist takeover of our country?blungld said:You keep talking in such childish terms, like this is a sporting contest and you are winning. The things you boast about and that excite you are not good things. They are shameful things. Your team "winning", or you perceiving that they are, does not eradicate the moral and ethical failings you are endorsing.Golden One said:
You leftists are absolutely hilarious!! You're pulling out every stop to denigrate Trump, his acceptance speech, and the RNC convention. It's pretty obvious that you're very nervous right now. The Republicans pulled off a model convention that completely outshined the technology-challenged Democrat show. Any objective observer (especially Independents) had to be impressed with this week's convention and the diversity of speakers. Average Americans were featured, not life-long politicians. Impressive. Very impressive.
This week has given a big boost to the Trump campaign and dealt a serious blow to Biden. Now Biden has to face up to the question of whether he will debate Trump or not. It's a lose-lose decision for the badly demented Biden. If he decides not to debate, he will be viewed as a coward who doesn't have the courage to be President. If he decides to debate, Trump will absolutely kill him. Poor Biden. He may just roll up in a corner of his basement for weeks.
Liberalism is a mental illness.
Yes, of course "we" are afraid that Trump might win. Isn't that clear that we fear for the future of the country and think this is the most dangerous man in our nation's history? Why wouldn't we be worried? What does that prove?
5 years ago if we listed all the things that Trump would do under his presidency, you would have sworn he would never do these things, we are just paranoid. If forced to answer, you would have agreed that the things on hat list were unethical and unAmerican and criminal. Now you are amused by these things. Cheer for them. Celebrate them and attack anyone who sees them for what they really are.
I asked in another thread, but I am asking you directly here. If Trump were offered 50K dead Americans from pandemic but he loses election, or 200K dead American but he wins election, which would he choose. I KNOW, you know the answer to that question. So, how can you support this man and believe he should run the nation?
If Biden were given the same choice, you KNOW how he would answer.
One is a good man, with some policies you might disagree with (but most of the things you would say about him are not true). The other is a corrupt bad man who you might agree with SOME of his policies (but most of the things you would say about him are NOT true). Is there any chance you will ever step back and look at this objectively. Take stock of what you are ACTUALLY supporting? You are not exhibiting loyalty to a political ideology, or set of strongly held ethical beliefs, you are being tricked into believing that that is what you are doing while you enable a deceitful criminal to actually destroy the country. He is actually destroying the country. That isn't a liberal whine or a point for my team, it is literally true. You can't pretend like all the misery and discord and unlawfulness is just magically rising up against him, he is creating all of this. These are the RESULTS of his presidency, not the problems he is solving.
I've probably wasted five minutes trying to reason with you, but this is not a sporting event. I don't think you really understand how bad things are going to get the next four years if he is elected. You literally will not recognize the country and the amount of terror, and fear, and turmoil will keep escalating. The logical conclusion of this man and his world view is not a happier place to live. BIden is perhaps not the greatest candidate in the world, but you don't have to think so to try and stave off the reality that Trump is creating. This isn't an attack on conservatism or the GOP, this is a particular person and movement that is poison. Go back to voting GOP the rest of your life, but see this dictator for who he is before the power is consolidated too far and there is no going back.
Liberalism is a mental illness.
Michigan average: Biden +7.3Golden One said:If you haven't noticed, Biden's lead is slipping. Trump is already overtaking him in the key battleground states. But I'm glad that you think you're winning, because that's motivation for the Republicans.sycasey said:That's the entire raison d'etre for conservatives these days: just win, baby. The policy goals barely even matter anymore. It's all just about winning. Don't believe me? Listen to the party itself. They didn't even write a policy platform this year.blungld said:You keep talking in such childish terms, like this is a sporting contest and you are winning. The things you boast about and that excite you are not good things. They are shameful things. Your team "winning", or you perceiving that they are, does not eradicate the moral and ethical failings you are endorsing.Golden One said:
You leftists are absolutely hilarious!! You're pulling out every stop to denigrate Trump, his acceptance speech, and the RNC convention. It's pretty obvious that you're very nervous right now. The Republicans pulled off a model convention that completely outshined the technology-challenged Democrat show. Any objective observer (especially Independents) had to be impressed with this week's convention and the diversity of speakers. Average Americans were featured, not life-long politicians. Impressive. Very impressive.
This week has given a big boost to the Trump campaign and dealt a serious blow to Biden. Now Biden has to face up to the question of whether he will debate Trump or not. It's a lose-lose decision for the badly demented Biden. If he decides not to debate, he will be viewed as a coward who doesn't have the courage to be President. If he decides to debate, Trump will absolutely kill him. Poor Biden. He may just roll up in a corner of his basement for weeks.
Liberalism is a mental illness.
Never mind that by any objective measure, Trump is NOT winning. He's been trailing in polls consistently for months. There's plenty of delusion at play here too. As long as we act like we're winning, we're winning, Even if Biden wins in a landslide, I expect posts here telling us why Republicans and conservatives are really winning in the long run. You will never get through to this kind of person.
sycasey said:That's the entire raison d'etre for conservatives these days: just win, baby. The policy goals barely even matter anymore. It's all just about winning. Don't believe me? Listen to the party itself. They didn't even write a policy platform this year.blungld said:You keep talking in such childish terms, like this is a sporting contest and you are winning. The things you boast about and that excite you are not good things. They are shameful things. Your team "winning", or you perceiving that they are, does not eradicate the moral and ethical failings you are endorsing.Golden One said:
You leftists are absolutely hilarious!! You're pulling out every stop to denigrate Trump, his acceptance speech, and the RNC convention. It's pretty obvious that you're very nervous right now. The Republicans pulled off a model convention that completely outshined the technology-challenged Democrat show. Any objective observer (especially Independents) had to be impressed with this week's convention and the diversity of speakers. Average Americans were featured, not life-long politicians. Impressive. Very impressive.
This week has given a big boost to the Trump campaign and dealt a serious blow to Biden. Now Biden has to face up to the question of whether he will debate Trump or not. It's a lose-lose decision for the badly demented Biden. If he decides not to debate, he will be viewed as a coward who doesn't have the courage to be President. If he decides to debate, Trump will absolutely kill him. Poor Biden. He may just roll up in a corner of his basement for weeks.
Liberalism is a mental illness.
Never mind that by any objective measure, Trump is NOT winning. He's been trailing in polls consistently for months. There's plenty of delusion at play here too. As long as we act like we're winning, we're winning, Even if Biden wins in a landslide, I expect posts here telling us why Republicans and conservatives are really winning in the long run. You will never get through to this kind of person.
Thats true. That's why I am voting for Joe Biden!Golden One said:Only a fool like Cal Poly Dropout would vote for a candidate with Stage 3 Dementia!calpoly said:Only a fool (Golden Shower) would be dumb enough to buy that pitch!dimitrig said:calpoly said:Hey Golden Shower, no one has to denigrate tRump...he does it himself. Four years of destroying a great nation and you are willing to sign up for four more years.Golden One said:
You leftists are absolutely hilarious!! You're pulling out every stop to denigrate Trump, his acceptance speech, and the RNC convention. It's pretty obvious that you're very nervous right now. The Republicans pulled off a model convention that completely outshined the technology-challenged Democrat show. Any objective observer (especially Independents) had to be impressed with this week's convention and the diversity of speakers. Average Americans were featured, not life-long politicians. Impressive. Very impressive.
This week has given a big boost to the Trump campaign and dealt a serious blow to Biden. Now Biden has to face up to the question of whether he will debate Trump or not. It's a lose-lose decision for the badly demented Biden. If he decides not to debate, he will be viewed as a coward who doesn't have the courage to be President. If he decides to debate, Trump will absolutely kill him. Poor Biden. He may just roll up in a corner of his basement for weeks.
Liberalism is a mental illness.
Donald Trump sells himself at RNC: Reelect me to fix the problems I created
(Source: USA Today editorial board)
Liberalism is a mental illness.
