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Unit2Sucks
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Unit2Sucks said:

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It's not Amazon's fault. Very few people build computers anymore. Gamers buy consoles or gaming laptops and everyone else uses a phone or a tablet.
Speak for yourself. I buy the parts individually every time and assemble them. Especially cause most of the time, I'm happy with 75% of the innards of my current rig. It's only when I need to upgrade a motherboard to run a better processor or get a newer better video card that I need to change something and why would I want to pay for new parts I don't need?
He's not speaking for himself, he's speaking to the market. I don't agree with him that people aren't buying computers - and neither do the numbers - but he's not wrong that the market for homebrew computers is small. The fact that you build your own doesn't change that.

https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/11/22225356/pc-sales-shipments-2020-growth-idc-canalys-remote-work
That article has nothing to do with anything I said.

The reason PC's will never go away is because of heat and the ease of upgrade. Upgrading parts in a laptop is a pain in the butt and the extra airspace in a PC is good for the life of the components. I use a laptop for most things, but when I have a hard-core program to run, it's always the PC.

Of course most people will buy pre-fab stuff rather than build it, but "very few" is not true.
I mostly objected to you saying "speak for yourself" when he clearly was speaking to a market trend and you were speaking to a niche that isn't growing. I used to build my own computers and spend plenty of time walking the aisles at Frys to do so. I bought my last PC more than a decade ago and still use it occasionally after having upgraded some of the internals (SSD, etc.). I don't think I will ever build another PC but if I were a gamer I might. Regardless, I think it's pretty obvious that there isn't a strong business case for a warehouse size store catering to the DIY PC crowd in 2021 and beyond.
I don't know that there is a strong business case for a warehouse size store for much of anything anymore other than Costco and maybe hardware stores.


Fair point.
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Unit2Sucks said:

SFBear92 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

SFBear92 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

SFBear92 said:

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It's not Amazon's fault. Very few people build computers anymore. Gamers buy consoles or gaming laptops and everyone else uses a phone or a tablet.
Speak for yourself. I buy the parts individually every time and assemble them. Especially cause most of the time, I'm happy with 75% of the innards of my current rig. It's only when I need to upgrade a motherboard to run a better processor or get a newer better video card that I need to change something and why would I want to pay for new parts I don't need?
He's not speaking for himself, he's speaking to the market. I don't agree with him that people aren't buying computers - and neither do the numbers - but he's not wrong that the market for homebrew computers is small. The fact that you build your own doesn't change that.

https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/11/22225356/pc-sales-shipments-2020-growth-idc-canalys-remote-work
That article has nothing to do with anything I said.

The reason PC's will never go away is because of heat and the ease of upgrade. Upgrading parts in a laptop is a pain in the butt and the extra airspace in a PC is good for the life of the components. I use a laptop for most things, but when I have a hard-core program to run, it's always the PC.

Of course most people will buy pre-fab stuff rather than build it, but "very few" is not true.
I mostly objected to you saying "speak for yourself" when he clearly was speaking to a market trend and you were speaking to a niche that isn't growing. I used to build my own computers and spend plenty of time walking the aisles at Frys to do so. I bought my last PC more than a decade ago and still use it occasionally after having upgraded some of the internals (SSD, etc.). I don't think I will ever build another PC but if I were a gamer I might. Regardless, I think it's pretty obvious that there isn't a strong business case for a warehouse size store catering to the DIY PC crowd in 2021 and beyond.
I don't know that there is a strong business case for a warehouse size store for much of anything anymore other than Costco and maybe hardware stores.


Fair point.
Interesting where this thread headed. One of the biggest losers in the C-19 pandemic are department stores, which are a form of warehouse size stores, and there innumerable number of articles on which ones will or will not make it. There are mixed views on whether the chain store age is coming to an end or booming. Right now chain markets, pharmacies, and those that sell basics with a lot of space are commanding amazingly strong cap rates, so the market is saying people will continue to use the places. Certain warehouse chains are doing well. Walmart stock, for example, is outperforming Amazon stock (depending on when you look). Apparel and other forms of warehouse stores are in trouble, but were already in trouble - it's not that different from the pre-2020 environment for retail, but the pandemic has sped up an already accelerated pace of change. If you think about the speed with which consumers are changing how they shop, every retailer has to operate in transformation mode. And certainly the same for commercial landlords. Our properties contain many more service providers (not good during C-19, but hopefully good in the long run) and staples warehouse size provider - rather than the classic large retail major, we have majors like Whole Foods, Grocery Outlet, CVS, Winco (like Costco), etc.

I can provide links to trade articles if anyone wants to more specific information.
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A friend works for a property management company in the bay area. I think she said they have about 80 properties. When the pandemic struck, she wondered how many of them were going to make it, because they could draw no income, but the management co had not stepped in to offer any breaks on rents.

What did you guy do, experience?
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wifeisafurd said:

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I wish I had the choice of not being on the hook for the healthcare cost of anyone that chooses to smoke, eat themselves into obesity and abuse drugs. Other than that, knock yourself out with your lifestyle choices.
So you're saying you don't drink alcohol or use marijuana?

Moderate drinker, the consequences of which will cost society nothing. Stopped smoking weed at Cal in 1973. It was not helping me get where I wanted to go.
Everybody thinks they're a moderate drinker. Except me, because I don't drink alcohol.

So why should I be on the hook for any health consequences you have later from the "moderate" drinking you've done. It's not like it's a healthy product. There's literally no health benefit to it at all and there are some health consequences form using it.

In other words, don't cast stones unless you're a vegan, non-alcohol drinking, non-drugging vision of perfection. i.e. the kind of people no one likes.
You are changing the subject.
But if you wanted to go full monty, exercise would be mandated.
If is impossible to only pay taxes on the things you support. Per Gallup, 57 percent of Americans polled told Gallup they pay "too much" in federal income taxes; note, though, that 45 percent of Americans pay no federal income taxes at all. Think about that, people who don't pay income taxes are complaining. An astonishing number don't even realize there are tax breaks for many things they may not support, or do support vehemently. In fact most people pay don't even realize they probably pay more in non-income taxes or equivalents, such as payroll, sales, property, governmental fees, etc. Like it or not, we all pay taxes and fees for things we don't like whether it be pork projects or what we think is bad public policy. Being part of a democracy means you get to exercise your right to vote and make changes, including how and where your tax money is being spent, but that is the best most of us get in our form of government.
Yeah, no argument here. I agree with what you said.
The sad thing, to me, is that people really do not understand the government system in which we live - as your point out.

The whole MAGA thing, to me, is a harken back to an envisioned idyllic time in this country. I think the movie Pleasantville is a good compare here. The movie had the same nostalgic sense for the past: a simpler time when everything was happy and pure. Of course, the movie ultimately shows how that was not the case at all. And I would have liked to expose that the MAGA crowd's yearning for the same Pleasantville era was doomed because it was merely an imagined era of goodness which didn't actually exist. I'll explain:

  • Top marginable tax rate now is 38%. In 1953, it was 92%.
  • Blacks were DEFINITELY not living the dream in the 50's, especially in the segregated south. That's 20%+ of the pop in the south (10% overall). Hello Rosa Parks.
  • And this chart is interesting. It does show that Real Median Incomes were on a 30 year growth rate from early 40's to early 70's, so maybe there is something to be MAGA nostalgic about there. But it also shows a theme which Cal professor Gabriel Zucman speaks of, which is how the tax burden has shifted - as you mentioned, Wife. Here's his chart below:



I suppose people will NEVER say they are paying too little tx, no matter whether Rich or Poor. (Hell, Donald Trump think he pays too much and he doesn't pay any at all - because he cheats, which will all be shown clearly soon.) But the point is, people don't even understand that chart above, or this one below, and so the Gallup poll about what people believe means little when you are trying to figure out what the best tax policy should be.




It's like, asking a bunch of non-farmers what the best way to farm is.
The problem is, those non-farmers are ultimately the ones who decide.
SO, if you are an economist, or an elected congressman, it seems the best thing to do is not to let the uninformed voters tell you what tax policy should be! Instead, you should figure it out yourselves, and then use propaganda and/or education to INFORM the electorate why your plan is the best. Neither party does this well, but the GOP has gone full capitol storming Q nonsense in their efforts, while the Dems actually have some rationality behind their visions. (Zucman, as was told to me here on BI, is apparently the basis for the Warren wealth tax - see, SHE is thinking, and I like that!)

Basically, in answer to this topic we were discussing, about whether we should tax bad behavior and subsidize good behavior, I reject your entire introduction of Gallup polls. Those people are entirely uninformed, and so that would be the tail waging the dog. What I was introducing was IDEAL tax policy. That would be:

Tax Meat and Dairy.
Tax Oil and other global warming industries.
Subsidize vegetables.
Subsidize exercise and healthy living.
And yes, Mike Bloomberg, tax soda.
(the list of things could be endless and plenty debatable.)

If only we could educate people to make healthy and informed decisions. Now excuse me while I go eat my bacon and egg breakfast, then drive my gas guzzler SUV to work as I leave my 5000 SF house!
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wifeisafurd said:

concordtom said:

SFBear92 said:

bearister said:

SFBear92 said:

bearister said:

I wish I had the choice of not being on the hook for the healthcare cost of anyone that chooses to smoke, eat themselves into obesity and abuse drugs. Other than that, knock yourself out with your lifestyle choices.
So you're saying you don't drink alcohol or use marijuana?

Moderate drinker, the consequences of which will cost society nothing. Stopped smoking weed at Cal in 1973. It was not helping me get where I wanted to go.
Everybody thinks they're a moderate drinker. Except me, because I don't drink alcohol.

So why should I be on the hook for any health consequences you have later from the "moderate" drinking you've done. It's not like it's a healthy product. There's literally no health benefit to it at all and there are some health consequences form using it.

In other words, don't cast stones unless you're a vegan, non-alcohol drinking, non-drugging vision of perfection. i.e. the kind of people no one likes.
You are changing the subject.
But if you wanted to go full monty, exercise would be mandated.
If is impossible to only pay taxes on the things you support. Per Gallup, 57 percent of Americans polled told Gallup they pay "too much" in federal income taxes; note, though, that 45 percent of Americans pay no federal income taxes at all. Think about that, people who don't pay income taxes are complaining. An astonishing number don't even realize there are tax breaks for many things they may not support, or do support vehemently. In fact most people pay don't even realize they probably pay more in non-income taxes or equivalents, such as payroll, sales, property, governmental fees, etc. Like it or not, we all pay taxes and fees for things we don't like whether it be pork projects or what we think is bad public policy. Being part of a democracy means you get to exercise your right to vote and make changes, including how and where your tax money is being spent, but that is the best most of us get in our form of government.


Most people don't differentiate between kinds of taxes. People are reflecting dissatisfaction with paying any taxes while they struggle to keep up with the basics. This is the path to universal basic income.
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The difference between a right wing conspiracy and the truth is about 20 months.
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Vernon Jordan, civil rights leader and close ally of Bill Clinton, dies - CNNPolitics


https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/02/politics/vernon-jordan-dies/index.html
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~ Bunny's last Wail, 73

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Bunny Wailer, last surviving founder member of the Wailers, dies aged 73


https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/mar/02/bunny-wailer-last-surviving-founder-member-of-the-wailers-dies-aged-73?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other



To celebrate the musical life and achievements of Bob Marley, Peter Tosh and Bunny Wailer, a Blue heritage plaque is to be installed on the former Island Studios in Basing Street, Notting Hill (Oct., 2019).
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Widow of Dallas officer slain by Lee Harvey Oswald dies - ABC News


https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/widow-dallas-officer-slain-lee-harvey-oswald-dies-76239170
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/wireStory/widow-dallas-officer-slain-lee-harvey-oswald-dies-76239170

*Ted Cruz' dad was good for the murder of Officer Tippet under the felony murder rule.


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BearForce2 said:




Book my father is reading, called Lifespan.
His new mantra is "I will not die".

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Vernon Jordan, civil rights leader and close ally of Bill Clinton, dies - CNNPolitics


https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/02/politics/vernon-jordan-dies/index.html


Wow. Missed that one.

On May 29, 1980, Jordan was shot and seriously wounded outside the Marriott Inn in Fort Wayne, Indiana. He was accompanied by Martha Coleman at the time. Police thought initially that it might have been a domestic incident related to Coleman's life.[14] Then-president Jimmy Carter visited Jordan while he was recovering, an event that became the first story covered by the new network CNN.[15] Joseph Paul Franklin was acquitted in 1982 of charges of attempted murder. However, in 1996, after having been convicted of murder in another case, Franklin admitted to having committed the shooting.
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Henry Goldrich, Gear Guru to Rock Stars, Is Dead at 88


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/04/nyregion/henry-goldrich-dead.html

" Mr. Goldrich sold guitars to Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton, Pete Townshend and many others. He was not happy about Mr. Townshend's penchant for smashing them."


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Queen Elizabeth

Prince Philip

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Roger Mudd, a probing TV journalist and network news anchor, dies at 93


http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/roger-mudd-dead/2021/03/09/78ddf308-8117-11eb-9ca6-54e187ee4939_story.html
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bearister said:

Roger Mudd, a probing TV journalist and network news anchor, dies at 93


http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/roger-mudd-dead/2021/03/09/78ddf308-8117-11eb-9ca6-54e187ee4939_story.html


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Roger Mudd, a probing TV journalist and network news anchor, dies at 93


http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/roger-mudd-dead/2021/03/09/78ddf308-8117-11eb-9ca6-54e187ee4939_story.html

Random things that are news to me:

He held Robert Kennedy's widow shortly after he was gunned down.

He lost out the CBS Evening News anchor job to Dan Rather.

He co-anchored the NBC Nightly News for a year with Tom Brokaw, before Brokaw took the job solo.

He was the chief anchor for History Channel.
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Queen Elizabeth

Prince Philip



Prince Philip will probably make it to 100 in a few months, then die.

Queen Elizabeth II will likely another 8 or 9 years. I expect her to live longer than her mother. She turns 95 in a few weeks, and she's pretty damn active.
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The first cassettes I remember buying are:





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okaydo said:

Anarchistbear said:

Queen Elizabeth

Prince Philip



Prince Philip will probably make it to 100 in a few months, then die.

Queen Elizabeth II will likely another 8 or 9 years. I expect her to live longer than her mother. She turns 95 in a few weeks, and she's pretty damn active.


They will both be dead this year. I have them in my pool.
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RIP Aunt Jemima
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Marvin Hagler obituary


https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/mar/14/marvin-hagler-obituary?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
*Boxers don't live long lives:
Joe Frazier 67
Ron Lyle 70
Ken Norton 70
Ali 74
Leon Spinks 67
Ernie Terrell 75
Sonny Liston 40
Mike Quarry 55
Jerry Quarry 53


Marvelous Marvin Hagler vs Thomas "The Hit Man" Hearns:

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James Bond villain Yaphet Kotto dies aged 81



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Elgin Baylor, former Los Angeles Lakers star and basketball Hall of Famer, dies at 86 - CNN


https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/22/us/nba-elgin-baylor-dies-spt/index.html

NBA legend Elgin Baylor dies at age 86



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And free speech has been dying in this country for about 50 years. This terrible trend picked up momentum in 2008 and has been accelerating ever since.
We need respirators,oxygen masks, dedicated constitutionalists courage and prayers to revive this dying amendment which has been thge fulcrum for all our other amendments. There is a reason why free speech is our first amendment. Without it, our constitution is just another book by Andrew Cuomo.
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I never took you for a Mario Savio supporter.

"There's a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious-makes you so sick at heart-that you can't take part. You can't even passively take part. And you've got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you've got to make it stop." Mario Savio

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helltopay1 said:

And free speech has been dying in this country for about 50 years. This terrible trend picked up momentum in 2008 and has been accelerating ever since.
We need respirators,oxygen masks, dedicated constitutionalists courage and prayers to revive this dying amendment which has been thge fulcrum for all our other amendments. There is a reason why free speech is our first amendment. Without it, our constitution is just another book by Andrew Cuomo.


This topic requires specificity. You're arguing that men and women of all racial and ethnic backgrounds have lost a considerable amount of their freedom to speak truths, jokes, opinions, and lies without unfair consequence. And you want us to go back to how we all were 50 years ago. What is one important truth that can't be spoken out loud today due to this erosion of free speech?
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"What is one important truth that can't be spoken out loud today due to this erosion of free speech?"

I'm pretty sure it relates to The Ten Commandments of White Supremacy.
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2008?

Oh, right... Black Man bad!
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bearister: I assume you are "white."
What aspect of your comfortable life would you be willing to give up today....right now.....in order to benefit someone of less privilege??
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George Segal, rip
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George Segal, rip


George Segal, Leading Man of Lighthearted Comedies, Dies at 87


https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/george-segal-dead-wheres-poppa-owl-*****cat-just-shoot-me-goldbergs-star-was-87-1199045

This movie cracked me up:



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1. That's the Maltese Falcon.
2. Falcon Funny. That's a good phrase.
3. Donald Trump is a falcon idiot.
4. Sidney Powell is a falcon liar.
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Yogi's favorite actress died:



Jessica Walter Dead: 'Arrested Development', 'Archer' Actress Was 80 Deadline


https://deadline.com/2021/03/jessica-walter-dead-actress-arrested-development-1234721873/
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