dimitrig said:

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Cal88 said:

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The main reason the Biden administration got out of Afghanistan was because they wanted to allocate military resources towards war with Russia and China.

Being in the middle east is not just about domestic oil demand, we are there because all the other leading world powers, China, India, Japan, Germany etc, depend on mideastern oil. Control over the middle east gives us power over all these countries.

US oil production is now peaking, and will start to decline next decade, however Canada, with the 3rd largest oil reserves in the world, can all by itself more than meet future US & Canadian oil demand, for decades, until there is a new viable substitute.

As well, the current "green energy" options are neither viable nor are they scalable, as it takes at least as much energy to mine and produce batteries or set up windmills as these items save in fossil fuel usage, as well there aren't enough critical inputs like cobalt, nickel or copper to replace the entire fleet of gas-powered vehicles. Not to mention rare earths, and the fact that batteries and solar panels are highly toxic and potentially far more damaging to the environment than the use of oil and gas.

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Why am I not surprised that you are in favor of fossil fuels and opposed to green energy?

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Oh, he's been there for a while. Way back to when he posted fake magazine covers in a desperate attempt to prove that "global cooling" had once been a long-running media hoax before global warming became the new one.

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Why am I not surprised that you are in favor of fossil fuels and opposed to green energy?

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Because it is based on a rational framework, rather than a doomer, emotional and speculative approach to the energy issue?

sycasey said:

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dimitrig said:

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Cal88 said:

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The main reason the Biden administration got out of Afghanistan was because they wanted to allocate military resources towards war with Russia and China.

Being in the middle east is not just about domestic oil demand, we are there because all the other leading world powers, China, India, Japan, Germany etc, depend on mideastern oil. Control over the middle east gives us power over all these countries.

US oil production is now peaking, and will start to decline next decade, however Canada, with the 3rd largest oil reserves in the world, can all by itself more than meet future US & Canadian oil demand, for decades, until there is a new viable substitute.

As well, the current "green energy" options are neither viable nor are they scalable, as it takes at least as much energy to mine and produce batteries or set up windmills as these items save in fossil fuel usage, as well there aren't enough critical inputs like cobalt, nickel or copper to replace the entire fleet of gas-powered vehicles. Not to mention rare earths, and the fact that batteries and solar panels are highly toxic and potentially far more damaging to the environment than the use of oil and gas.

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Why am I not surprised that you are in favor of fossil fuels and opposed to green energy?

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Oh, he's been there for a while. Way back to when he posted fake magazine covers in a desperate attempt to prove that "global cooling" had once been a long-running media hoax before global warming became the new one.

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BS libel smear. In the context an old debate on climate change, I've posted about 2 dozen documents which prove the 1970s scientific consensus on global cooling, one of which consisting of a series of several original vintage Time Magazine covers where one of these covers turned out to be made up, and that's the entire basis of sycaseys halfassed and malign character smear.

DiabloWags said:

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dimitrig said:

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Why am I not surprised that you are in favor of fossil fuels and opposed to green energy?

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Because of the Gas Station that masquerades as a country.

RUSSIA!

RUSSIA!

RUSSIA!

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Russia is going to pass Germany this decade to become the 5th largest effective economy.

This being said, isn't a bit hypocritical on your part to buy an expensive new gas-powered car while simultaneously criticizing my position on fossil fuels??

Either back up your claims @AP with actual source data or retract your story

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 19, 2023

The Associated Press is at it again spreading fake news on Twitter.

Progressives' policies aren't logical or pragmatic. I'm all for green nuclear, green hydro, green NG, and where-appropriate solar power. Great over the pursuit of perfect.

Germany will lose some of its industrial might as they close all of their nuclear reactors. (I met a Spanish gentleman here on holiday who claimed German Greens were bribed into closing down NP plants, but I haven't found a source.) Losing jobs will cost jobs and tax revenues.

Dr. Jordan Peterson claims these so-called Green policies took us from a position where we had effectively ended world hunger; to making 100 million people food insecure. Quite the flip in two years.

One person speculates that the WEF / Globalists purposefully want to restrict economic growth for several reasons, including that 'Green' energy can't possibly meet the needs of robust, growing economies.

Who gave us polluting plastic bags? 'Environmentalists.' Who gave us overgrown, unhealthy, clogged forests? Environmentalists (including Sierra Club), which lead to Super Fires and tens of millions of incinerated trees.

How many AP writers and editors are directly or indirectly on the payroll of the CIA, FIB, or other Intell Agencies?

Cal88 said:

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sycasey said:

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dimitrig said:

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Cal88 said:

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The main reason the Biden administration got out of Afghanistan was because they wanted to allocate military resources towards war with Russia and China.

Being in the middle east is not just about domestic oil demand, we are there because all the other leading world powers, China, India, Japan, Germany etc, depend on mideastern oil. Control over the middle east gives us power over all these countries.

US oil production is now peaking, and will start to decline next decade, however Canada, with the 3rd largest oil reserves in the world, can all by itself more than meet future US & Canadian oil demand, for decades, until there is a new viable substitute.

As well, the current "green energy" options are neither viable nor are they scalable, as it takes at least as much energy to mine and produce batteries or set up windmills as these items save in fossil fuel usage, as well there aren't enough critical inputs like cobalt, nickel or copper to replace the entire fleet of gas-powered vehicles. Not to mention rare earths, and the fact that batteries and solar panels are highly toxic and potentially far more damaging to the environment than the use of oil and gas.

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Why am I not surprised that you are in favor of fossil fuels and opposed to green energy?

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Oh, he's been there for a while. Way back to when he posted fake magazine covers in a desperate attempt to prove that "global cooling" had once been a long-running media hoax before global warming became the new one.

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BS libel smear. In the context an old debate on climate change, I've posted about 2 dozen documents which prove the 1970s scientific consensus on global cooling, one of which consisting of a series of several original vintage Time Magazine covers where one of these covers turned out to be made up, and that's the entire basis of sycaseys halfassed and malign character smear.

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One was entirely fake and three were real covers but not about the subject you claimed they were. It's all there in the text. You never acknowledged the error (or the lie). I return to this example because it exposes your usual MO: toss out a bunch of bull***t and then ignore and move on whenever any of it is disproven.

sycasey said:

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Cal88 said:

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sycasey said:

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dimitrig said:

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Cal88 said:

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The main reason the Biden administration got out of Afghanistan was because they wanted to allocate military resources towards war with Russia and China.

Being in the middle east is not just about domestic oil demand, we are there because all the other leading world powers, China, India, Japan, Germany etc, depend on mideastern oil. Control over the middle east gives us power over all these countries.

US oil production is now peaking, and will start to decline next decade, however Canada, with the 3rd largest oil reserves in the world, can all by itself more than meet future US & Canadian oil demand, for decades, until there is a new viable substitute.

As well, the current "green energy" options are neither viable nor are they scalable, as it takes at least as much energy to mine and produce batteries or set up windmills as these items save in fossil fuel usage, as well there aren't enough critical inputs like cobalt, nickel or copper to replace the entire fleet of gas-powered vehicles. Not to mention rare earths, and the fact that batteries and solar panels are highly toxic and potentially far more damaging to the environment than the use of oil and gas.

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Why am I not surprised that you are in favor of fossil fuels and opposed to green energy?

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Oh, he's been there for a while. Way back to when he posted fake magazine covers in a desperate attempt to prove that "global cooling" had once been a long-running media hoax before global warming became the new one.

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BS libel smear. In the context an old debate on climate change, I've posted about 2 dozen documents which prove the 1970s scientific consensus on global cooling, one of which consisting of a series of several original vintage Time Magazine covers where one of these covers turned out to be made up, and that's the entire basis of sycaseys halfassed and malign character smear.

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One was entirely fake and three were real covers but not about the subject you claimed they were. It's all there in the text. You never acknowledged the error (or the lie). I return to this example because it exposes your usual MO: toss out a bunch of bull***t and then ignore and move on whenever any of it is disproven.

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The one fake cover did not change the basic fact that the 3 others 1970s Time Magazine covers contained in the same gif were real, and about the climate getting colder.

You're clumsily trying to spin this fact away here, because you reason that if you keep making that point, it might stick, because you have more time and energy to spare in repeating these stupid and malign personal attacks, and also because the majority of the audience here is ideologically aligned with you.

This however doesn't make you right.

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The one fake cover did not change the basic fact that the 3 others 1970s Time Magazine covers contained in the same gif were real, and about the climate getting colder.

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Um, no they were not about that. That's my whole point. You don't know because you didn't read them. Yet you posted them in support of your argument anyway.

This is the whole problem here.

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WOW. elon was on spaces rn and someone asked about this tweet and if he thinks hate crimes are just crimes you hate. he stuttered a bit and then finally said “well from my point of view, it’s certainly not a crime you love” and ended the space lmao

did anyone get a recording??? https://t.co/cL6QtZI93a

— soul nate (@MNateShyamalan) May 20, 2023

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Gotta love the post you linked got fact checked into oblivion lol.

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Why am I not surprised that you are in favor of fossil fuels and opposed to green energy?

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Because it is based on a rational framework, rather than a doomer, emotional and speculative approach to the energy issue?

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No it isn't. Your argument ignores the growing battery minerals recycling business. In fact, it ignores everything that is bad for Putin.

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DiabloWags said:

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dimitrig said:

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Why am I not surprised that you are in favor of fossil fuels and opposed to green energy?

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Because of the Gas Station that masquerades as a country.

RUSSIA!

RUSSIA!

RUSSIA!

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Russia is going to pass Germany this decade to become the 5th largest effective economy.

This being said, isn't a bit hypocritical on your part to buy an expensive new gas-powered car while simultaneously criticizing my position on fossil fuels??

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Not at all.
We need both.

5th largest "effective" economy???
Hahahahaha!!!

Do you ever stop for a moment to listen to yourself speak?

DiabloWags said:

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Cal88 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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dimitrig said:

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Why am I not surprised that you are in favor of fossil fuels and opposed to green energy?

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Because of the Gas Station that masquerades as a country.

RUSSIA!

RUSSIA!

RUSSIA!

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Russia is going to pass Germany this decade to become the 5th largest effective economy.

This being said, isn't a bit hypocritical on your part to buy an expensive new gas-powered car while simultaneously criticizing my position on fossil fuels??

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Not at all.
We need both.

5th largest "effective" economy???
Hahahahaha!!!

Do you ever stop for a moment to listen to yourself speak?

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Russia is the world's eleventh-largest economy by nominal GDP, and the sixth-largest by purchasing power parity (PPP). Of course you brought up an obscure stat like GDP by capita, which isn't very relevant when discussing the ability to withstand a war. Do you ever stop for a moment to listen to yourself?

Here is an enlightening thread on this idol of the extreme right:

(THREAD) There’s so much Elongelical copium today in my comments I figure it’s time for a thread on Musk that’s exclusively made up of major-media reports on him. Want the truth about Elon? RT this. (Be aware he’ll sic his Community Notes stormtroopers on any words he dislikes.) pic.twitter.com/ZummpuqPes

— Seth Abramson (@SethAbramson) May 22, 2023

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Here is an enlightening thread on this idol of the extreme right:

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Enlightening? Elon Musk is not perfect nor is he a conservative but that thread was just more liberal butthurt nonsense.

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chazzed said:

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Here is an enlightening thread on this idol of the extreme right:

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Enlightening? Elon Musk is not perfect nor is he a conservative but that thread was just more liberal butthurt nonsense.

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To MAGA Republicans, mainstream media coverage equals "liberal butthurt nonsense." When one consistently amplifies far-right conspiracy theories, that person will be seen as a radical conservative. Musk fits the description.

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WOW. elon was on spaces rn and someone asked about this tweet and if he thinks hate crimes are just crimes you hate. he stuttered a bit and then finally said “well from my point of view, it’s certainly not a crime you love” and ended the space lmao

did anyone get a recording??? https://t.co/cL6QtZI93a

— soul nate (@MNateShyamalan) May 20, 2023

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Elno has taken the mask off so I expect the narrative to change now to support direct leverage of their media assets by conservative warriors like Elno as being the only correct and moral thing to do.

As ever, for conservatives, it’s all projection all the time. ‘Big Tech is biased to Dems!’
Do you remember Jack Dorsey telling people on here to vote Dem? Or Mark Zuckerberg launching Biden’s presidential campaign with him on Facebook? Nope.

And yet: https://t.co/A2iJ8DJrO6

— Mehdi Hasan (@mehdirhasan) May 23, 2023

Surely, Musk will also help a far-left candidate launch a presidential campaign.

Ron DeSanctimonious will launch his 2024 campaign using UniParty Alliance of Elon Musk and Rupert Murdoch tomorrow.

DeSantis will follow the sequence set out by the UniParty handlers - to launch the Sea Island billionaire strategy for a 2024 Republican nomination.

This isn't organic, the MAGA base is firmly behind President Trump.

The sequence of the launch tells the priority:

- the billionaire donors at the Four Seasons Hotel for an exclusive campaign launch.

- Twitter CEO Musk for an exclusive Twitter Spaces announcement (social media, influencers).

- Fox News promotions, hosted by Trey Gowdy in the 8pm hour.

- Mark Levin at 8:30pm (the Israeli lobby).

They've been planning this a long time. Their goal isn't to win the White House, the goal is to unseat Trump. Trillions are at stake.

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Elno has taken the mask off so I expect the narrative to change now to support direct leverage of their media assets by conservative warriors like Elno as being the only correct and moral thing to do.

As ever, for conservatives, it’s all projection all the time. ‘Big Tech is biased to Dems!’
Do you remember Jack Dorsey telling people on here to vote Dem? Or Mark Zuckerberg launching Biden’s presidential campaign with him on Facebook? Nope.

And yet: https://t.co/A2iJ8DJrO6

— Mehdi Hasan (@mehdirhasan) May 23, 2023

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The real question here that this MSM hack should be asking is, are Zuckerborg and co using their powerful algorithms to sway voters, and he knows it.

It sounded like a terrible idea from the start, but couldn't imagine it going this poorly. Does anyone really think this displays the sort of competence you would want from the leader of the free world? Even Dark Brandon is trolling him.

Congratulations to DeSantis's crack comms team, @BryanDGriffin, @ChristinaPushaw, and @JeremyRedfernFL, for organizing a totally effective and non-humiliating campaign launch for their boss with tech genius @elonmusk. Bravo!

Remember, their pitch is 'Trump but competent.' Lol.

— Mehdi Hasan (@mehdirhasan) May 24, 2023

Folks: We can now all relive Ron DeSantis' humiliating failure to launch! Watch as DeSantis, Elon Musk, and David Sacks struggle to get Twitter Spaces to work in their initial 20+ minute attempt. pic.twitter.com/MyiX1yVKyb

— MeidasTouch (@MeidasTouch) May 24, 2023

Biden is trolling Musk and DeSantis in real time. https://t.co/IZJ1tHkpIS

— Mehdi Hasan (@mehdirhasan) May 24, 2023

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It sounded like a terrible idea from the start, but couldn't imagine it going this poorly. Does anyone really think this displays the sort of competence you would want from the leader of the free world? Even Dark Brandon is trolling him.

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Complete failure to launch in so many ways.

Not ready for primetime.

Another failure to launch. Way to go Repugnants

DeSantis wants to run for President based on a platform that is even more to the right of Trump. That does nothing but exclude you from even more voters. Dumb strategy.

Political suicide.

The UniParty / GOPe / Wall Street Globalists want him to take out President Trump. Only problem is, President Trump is polling at over 60% now