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movielover said:

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You either lack candor, or are delusional. I've had many liberals say they like most of Trump's policies, but not the drama / mean tweets. He's given hundreds of speeches nationwide, and the policies are thete for all to see, even if Democrats and Jared block them / water then down.

Peace Through Strength
No new wars
Fair trade with China (Jared blocked)
Fair trade w Europe
New excellent trade deal with Mexico and Canada, closing the China backdoor tariff-free imports into the USA
No to new NAFTA / Wall Street bills which gut middle America
Strong MAGA economy w LOW INFLATION
EU pays into NATO per their commitment
Energy independence, no to Paris Accord
Bring manufacturing home
Close Southern border to illegal immigration, Fentanyl, and human/ drug traffickers
Basic law and order
Major Infrastructure Bill (Democrats blocked)
Medical Freedom - right to Try
Improved health care (McCain blocked, same guy who was peddling the pee tape fraud to Congress, the State Dept, etc)
Opportunity Zones and HBCU funded for 10 years

There's just a brief MAGA list

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You lack likeability.

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You digress. This isn't likeability but policies. Several have claimed President Trump lacked policies, which I've refuted here.

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dajo9 said:

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movielover said:

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We're not talking about trans, we're talking about Drag Queen Hour.

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My bad.

You seem obsessed with sex. The presence of a man dressed like a woman is no more sexual than the presence of a man dressed like a man.

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False. You still seem confused, likely on purpose. Glamed out in thick makeup, high heels, a corset, wild eye lashes, boas, etc., is inappropriate for young children. Aren't there enough drag nights and parties to suffice their exhibitionist and validation needs?

Again, I wouldn't have Vegas Cocktail Waitress Reading Hour either.

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Are you making things up again?

Drag Queen Story Hour sparks protests in conservative towns https://t.co/rqwxDDVAeA pic.twitter.com/zAFZWzVso7

— New York Post (@nypost) September 2, 2018

Rich Baris "The People's Pundit"@Peoples_Pundit
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@HungCaoCongress
has taken the lead in #VA10. Holy cow.

"Exit Polls look very bad for Democrats."

"Judging by the predictions [betting] markets, looks like someone leaked the first wave."

In before the conspiracy theories start about Nevada.

It is very likely that the top of the ticket Republicans will be ahead after tonight, with thousands of mail ballots uncounted.

Will they try to declare victory even though the races may not be over?

What do you think?

Ugh.

— Jon Ralston (@RalstonReports) November 9, 2022

dajo9 said:

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However this shakes out, it is not a red wave. Kind of unbelievable with a low polling President and high inflation that Republicans couldn't do better.

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It's an intersection of secular and cyclical trend lines. GOP is losing voters each decade through death and extremism which is why it's so focused on voter suppression. Midterms always burn the in power party, and when you combine that with high inflation and economic uncertainty, it was a huge tailwind for the GOP. On the other hand, abortion and other unpopular GOP positions motivated democrats more than usual.

The biggest factor is the midterm bounce back, but anyone trying to write a story that this election bodes well for the future of the GOP is making up fairy tales. Trump will be a deeply unpopular candidate again and will continue to alienate people. The fact that he is under numerous investigations, some of which may result in indictments soon, is not going to help his cause with independents or the remaining rational GOPers. On the other hand, they are all powerless to stop him from running roughshod over other GOP candidates. Does anyone doubt that Trump can crush DeSantis?

Trump: I have no beef w/DeSantis, I'm killing him in the polls. he's a fine guy & if he runs I'll reveal things that destroy his life.

that'll squash the narrative! 😂https://t.co/Qj0viUKIJQ pic.twitter.com/5mG1s4mvlu

— Jesse Lehrich (@JesseLehrich) November 8, 2022

We still need to see how the senate turns out (and it may not be known until the January runoff in GA), but we haven't seen anything to indicate that 2024 isn't shaping up fine for democrats. We should be through the recession and have interest rate tailwinds pushing the economy by then so Trump's messaging will have to be "it's not happening fast enough, I will take us back to 6% GDP growth" which he has already proven he can't do anything to generate.

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Came by to visit how much folks here have progressed in their journey here. Not much has changed. And that is why I don't think much will change in our society. This board is a microcosm of America. Tribes arguing the same thing over and over again because their sense of identity and superiority is tied to their tribe being the superior tribe. It has nothing to do working together for a better tomorrow. It is about what we always fight about - just being superior to others based on political beliefs, skin color, economic class, beauty, etc.

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This board is far from a microcosm of America though it may be emblematic of political debate in America. I agreed with much of the rest of your post.

Have read these snippets so far for the GOP:

Alabama Gov - reelected - Kay Ivey
Arkansas Gov - Sara Huckabee Sanders
Florida Gov - Ron DeSantis crushes it
Florida Senate - Rubio, ditto
Ohio Gov - Mike Dewine
S Carolina - Henry Mcmaster - re elected
Iowa - Kim Reynolds re elected
NH Gov - Chris Sinunu - reelected
Wyoming Gov - Mark Gordon - reelected

America hates Trumpism

Will Lauren Boebert get the boot?? She's 5 points behind with 71% in.

— Benjamin Ryan (@benryanwriter) November 9, 2022

MinotStateBeav said:

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Nancy Pelosi has officially been fired.

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I think it's too early to say that

Unit2Sucks said:

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dajo9 said:

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However this shakes out, it is not a red wave. Kind of unbelievable with a low polling President and high inflation that Republicans couldn't do better.

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It's an intersection of secular and cyclical trend lines. GOP is losing voters each decade through death and extremism which is why it's so focused on voter suppression. Midterms always burn the in power party, and when you combine that with high inflation and economic uncertainty, it was a huge tailwind for the GOP. On the other hand, abortion and other unpopular GOP positions motivated democrats more than usual.

The biggest factor is the midterm bounce back, but anyone trying to write a story that this election bodes well for the future of the GOP is making up fairy tales. Trump will be a deeply unpopular candidate again and will continue to alienate people. The fact that he is under numerous investigations, some of which may result in indictments soon, is not going to help his cause with independents or the remaining rational GOPers. On the other hand, they are all powerless to stop him from running roughshod over other GOP candidates. Does anyone doubt that Trump can crush DeSantis?

Trump: I have no beef w/DeSantis, I'm killing him in the polls. he's a fine guy & if he runs I'll reveal things that destroy his life.

that'll squash the narrative! 😂https://t.co/Qj0viUKIJQ pic.twitter.com/5mG1s4mvlu

— Jesse Lehrich (@JesseLehrich) November 8, 2022

We still need to see how the senate turns out (and it may not be known until the January runoff in GA), but we haven't seen anything to indicate that 2024 isn't shaping up fine for democrats. We should be through the recession and have interest rate tailwinds pushing the economy by then so Trump's messaging will have to be "it's not happening fast enough, I will take us back to 6% GDP growth" which he has already proven he can't do anything to generate.

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1. DeSantis wasn't in a competitive race.
2. DeSantis produced a creepy ad claiming, essentially, that God made him a warrior.
3. Latinos, suburban women, and Independents are swinging to the GOP. Bigly.

movielover said:

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Unit2Sucks said:

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dajo9 said:

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However this shakes out, it is not a red wave. Kind of unbelievable with a low polling President and high inflation that Republicans couldn't do better.

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It's an intersection of secular and cyclical trend lines. GOP is losing voters each decade through death and extremism which is why it's so focused on voter suppression. Midterms always burn the in power party, and when you combine that with high inflation and economic uncertainty, it was a huge tailwind for the GOP. On the other hand, abortion and other unpopular GOP positions motivated democrats more than usual.

The biggest factor is the midterm bounce back, but anyone trying to write a story that this election bodes well for the future of the GOP is making up fairy tales. Trump will be a deeply unpopular candidate again and will continue to alienate people. The fact that he is under numerous investigations, some of which may result in indictments soon, is not going to help his cause with independents or the remaining rational GOPers. On the other hand, they are all powerless to stop him from running roughshod over other GOP candidates. Does anyone doubt that Trump can crush DeSantis?

Trump: I have no beef w/DeSantis, I'm killing him in the polls. he's a fine guy & if he runs I'll reveal things that destroy his life.

that'll squash the narrative! 😂https://t.co/Qj0viUKIJQ pic.twitter.com/5mG1s4mvlu

— Jesse Lehrich (@JesseLehrich) November 8, 2022

We still need to see how the senate turns out (and it may not be known until the January runoff in GA), but we haven't seen anything to indicate that 2024 isn't shaping up fine for democrats. We should be through the recession and have interest rate tailwinds pushing the economy by then so Trump's messaging will have to be "it's not happening fast enough, I will take us back to 6% GDP growth" which he has already proven he can't do anything to generate.

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1. DeSantis wasn't in a competitive race.
2. DeSantis produced a creepy ad claiming, essentially, that God made him a warrior.
3. Latinos, suburban women, and Independents are swinging to the GOP. Bigly. IN FLORIDA AND FLORIDA ONLY

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FIFY

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MinotStateBeav said:

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Nancy Pelosi has officially been fired.

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I think it's too early to say that

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Who the heck is calling the House ALREADY? I know the GOP is still favored to win it, but there are still a lot of races yet to have votes counted.

PredictIt has now swung slightly to Dems for Senate control: pic.twitter.com/Vzjs8wOLOl

— Conor Sen (@conorsen) November 9, 2022

tequila4kapp said:

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dajo9 said:

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Who is sexualizing our children?

Strutting into a new week with another #DallasCowboys win! ✨💗#VictoryMonday | #DallasCowboys pic.twitter.com/80A1ZOpE7R

— Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders (@DCCheerleaders) October 31, 2022

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Also inappropriate (to me at least) if they were brought into elementary schools to read books, etc. It would not be discrimination to keep them out, it would be using judgment to realize what's appropriate and best for children.

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A man dressed as a woman is not inappropriate "everywhere" as you said or sexualizing as movielover said.

Dems are doing way better than anticipated by many pundits and doing it with large margins in several races. It's going to be fascinating to understand the why.

tequila4kapp said:

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Walker running about 4.5 points worse than Kemp in early GA results.

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I'm only just now checking in, and Walker is winning. Yikes!! 88% in.

Am I missing something?
Runoff salvation?

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movielover said:

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We're not talking about trans, we're talking about Drag Queen Hour.

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My bad.

You seem obsessed with sex. The presence of a man dressed like a woman is no more sexual than the presence of a man dressed like a man.

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Of course it is different. You see men dressed as men everywhere every day. You basically have to go searching to find a man dress like a woman, so inserting that intentionally into any environment - much less a school setting for young children - is more everything.

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The feeling you're expressing is your discomfort with something you are not used to. That is your problem. It is not the drag queen's problem and it is not a result of the drag queen's presence sexualizing anything.

It is also an argument for exposing children to drag queen's so when they are fully functioning adults they don't get queavy over the presence of a man dressed like a woman, like you do.

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Yeah.

tequila4kapp said:

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dajo9 said:

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movielover said:

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We're not talking about trans, we're talking about Drag Queen Hour.

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My bad.

You seem obsessed with sex. The presence of a man dressed like a woman is no more sexual than the presence of a man dressed like a man.

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Of course it is different. You see men dressed as men everywhere every day. You basically have to go searching to find a man dress like a woman, so inserting that intentionally into any environment - much less a school setting for young children - is more everything.

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You said it right here that it was more "everything" in reference to sexualizing.

I'm not struggling. I've been straight as an arrow on this.

tequila4kapp said:

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dajo9 said:

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movielover said:

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We're not talking about trans, we're talking about Drag Queen Hour.

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My bad.

You seem obsessed with sex. The presence of a man dressed like a woman is no more sexual than the presence of a man dressed like a man.

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Of course it is different. You see men dressed as men everywhere every day. You basically have to go searching to find a man dress like a woman, so inserting that intentionally into any environment - much less a school setting for young children - is more everything.

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The feeling you're expressing is your discomfort with something you are not used to. That is your problem. It is not the drag queen's problem and it is not a result of the drag queen's presence sexualizing anything.

It is also an argument for exposing children to drag queen's so when they are fully functioning adults they don't get queavy over the presence of a man dressed like a woman, like you do.

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Wrong. Believe it or not some people are actually able to hold beliefs for reasons, not fear and hatred.

Just because men have the right to dress as a women does not mean it is appropriate to put them in elementary schools.

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If you chose to share your beliefs, I think you'd expose yourself to being ripped pretty good.

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dajo9 said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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movielover said:

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We're not talking about trans, we're talking about Drag Queen Hour.

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My bad.

You seem obsessed with sex. The presence of a man dressed like a woman is no more sexual than the presence of a man dressed like a man.

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Of course it is different. You see men dressed as men everywhere every day. You basically have to go searching to find a man dress like a woman, so inserting that intentionally into any environment - much less a school setting for young children - is more everything.

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The feeling you're expressing is your discomfort with something you are not used to. That is your problem. It is not the drag queen's problem and it is not a result of the drag queen's presence sexualizing anything.

It is also an argument for exposing children to drag queen's so when they are fully functioning adults they don't get queavy over the presence of a man dressed like a woman, like you do.

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Wrong. Believe it or not some people are actually able to hold beliefs for reasons, not fear and hatred.

Just because men have the right to dress as a women does not mean it is appropriate to put them in elementary schools.

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You said it had that queavy effect in "any environment ".

movielover said their presence was "sexualizing".

You have both made bad arguments that reflect your own issues, not issues of the drag queen community.

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Okay, correction. Inserting a drag queen into any environment other than a drag show. Drag queens are not present in any other environment. Inserting them where they are not normally present is the point.

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I was at a wedding a couple months ago in which a man dressed as a woman gave a speech for his brother, the groom. It was great. I don't know what your hang-up is but you should get over it.

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That is wonderful.
The fact you cannot even concede that drag queens appearing generally in other location besides drag shows says a lot more about you than me.
How about we both agree to move on to the election, generally?

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Fun back and forth

America hates Trumpism

BREAKING: The NYT needle just shifted to predict Democrats will keep the SENATE and the HOUSE!

— PoliticsVerse 🇺🇸 (@PoliticsVerse) November 9, 2022