Cal88 said:

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Ethnic cleansing is "smart and practical".

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tequila4kapp said:

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By the way, I think we just got our answer for why the Netanyahu government would agree to a peace deal that did not eliminate Hamas.

As currently reported, I really do not like this plan. The Palestinians are a society / peoples. You cannot eliminate them. I dispersing them throughout the Middle East. This seems highly untenable.

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Anarchistbear said:

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Jordan and Egypt aren't about to admit people associated with fundamentalist Muslim. They have their own problems with these groups

Israel has the whip hand now but it's over. Young Israelis are leaving. It is a pariah state. It'll be gone in a decade

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Anarchistbear said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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Cal88 said:

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Ethnic cleansing is "smart and practical".

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Give me a break.

It's practical that if an area is completely destroyed you look for a better area for people to live.

It is practical to discern that Jews and Palestinians will never live side by side - 2 state solution - as long as Palestinians insist that Israel must be removed from the face of the map and all Jews killed.

It is IMpractical to think two nations that expelled Palestinians because they actively worked to undermine the government would ever take them back.

It is IMpractical to ignore the societal / political realities of Jordan and Egypt which make this impossible, namely that they are unstable regimes and their populations overwhelmingly side with the Palestinians.

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Jordan and Egypt aren't about to admit people associated with fundamentalist Muslim. They have their own problems with these groups

Israel has the whip hand now but it's over. Young Israelis are leaving. It is a pariah state. It'll be gone in a decade

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tequila4kapp said:

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That would be historically mind numbingly dumb. There is zero chance - ZERO - those countries lay down to Trump on this. They'll be overthrown by coup (Jordan) and run out of office at the next election (Egypt) in short order. The Kind of Jordan and leader in Egypt will tell Trump to pound sand and run to Russia / China to get that same aid elsewhere. There are times when some intelligence and nuance are required from a President and this is one of them.

An alternative theoretical approach that is better - though still highly improbable would be to get Jordan or Egypt to sell some unused desert adjacent to a body of water and create a new Palestinian state.

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BearGoggles said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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That would be historically mind numbingly dumb. There is zero chance - ZERO - those countries lay down to Trump on this. They'll be overthrown by coup (Jordan) and run out of office at the next election (Egypt) in short order. The Kind of Jordan and leader in Egypt will tell Trump to pound sand and run to Russia / China to get that same aid elsewhere. There are times when some intelligence and nuance are required from a President and this is one of them.

An alternative theoretical approach that is better - though still highly improbable would be to get Jordan or Egypt to sell some unused desert adjacent to a body of water and create a new Palestinian state.

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My take - Trump knows this. It is very obvious. This is his way of putting pressure on those countries - particularly Egypt - to move off of their support for Hamas while also sending a message to the Palestinians that they need to be more constructive.

It is the opposite side of the coin of his putting pressure on Bibi to sign the cease fire agreement. He's working the refs on both sides.

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Dem Election Deniers said:

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BearGoggles said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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That would be historically mind numbingly dumb. There is zero chance - ZERO - those countries lay down to Trump on this. They'll be overthrown by coup (Jordan) and run out of office at the next election (Egypt) in short order. The Kind of Jordan and leader in Egypt will tell Trump to pound sand and run to Russia / China to get that same aid elsewhere. There are times when some intelligence and nuance are required from a President and this is one of them.

An alternative theoretical approach that is better - though still highly improbable would be to get Jordan or Egypt to sell some unused desert adjacent to a body of water and create a new Palestinian state.

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My take - Trump knows this. It is very obvious. This is his way of putting pressure on those countries - particularly Egypt - to move off of their support for Hamas while also sending a message to the Palestinians that they need to be more constructive.

It is the opposite side of the coin of his putting pressure on Bibi to sign the cease fire agreement. He's working the refs on both sides.

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Giving Trump too much credit for having thought of the consequences of the things he says is foolish. In Biden's case it was because his brain was fried and he wasn't actually in charge. In Trump's case, he's not smart enough to think of the consequences of what he says. He just says things and if they happen to be true, it's by accident.

The best way to judge any politician at any rate is to pay far less attention to what they say than what they do.

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