The censorship thread

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dajo9
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Imagining investing your integrity in what comes out of Donold's mouth.

"These people should be put in jail for the way they TALK about our justices and judges"

https://www.threads.net/@kamalahq/post/DAR-aKYPGpJ/?xmt=AQGztRyZJZbm-XRbRTT8n8HZg0Bg8dmuwo46a15gcrP4jg
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This seems so idiotic at face value. I know your smart so I'm trying to figure out how you got brainwashed into thinking this is a thing…

X is not a government that can make free speech illegal.

Go back and read all of goggles posts. He says it much better. You and CT seem to be the most eager to throw away your rights to live in a totalitarian nation.


Watch silenced yet?
dajo9
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HawaiiBear33 said:

This seems so idiotic at face value. I know your smart so I'm trying to figure out how you got brainwashed into thinking this is a thing…

X is not a government that can make free speech illegal.

Go back and read all of goggles posts. He says it much better. You and CT seem to be the most eager to throw away your rights to live in a totalitarian nation.


Watch silenced yet?


What are you even talking about?
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George Soros is publicly forming an Orwellian propaganda machine endorsed by Democrats.
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bear2034 said:


George Soros is publicly forming an Orwellian propaganda machine endorsed by Democrats.


As a guy that loves Orwell's 1984 so much that I read it 3 times (and enjoyed the movie with Richard Burton and John Hurt), it always makes me giggle when the literature challenged Right co opts the book after thousands of articles were written during the tRump reign applying the book on all four corners to what was going on in the tRump Administration (sales of 1984 increased by 9500 percent during tRump I).

Orwell's '1984' has become a conservative rallying cry - The Washington Post


https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/orwell-1984-



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bearister said:

bear2034 said:


George Soros is publicly forming an Orwellian propaganda machine endorsed by Democrats.


As a guy that loves Orwell's 1984 so much that I read it 3 times (and enjoyed the movie with Richard Burton and John Hurt), it always makes me giggle when the literature challenged Right co opts the book after thousands of articles were written during the tRump reign applying the book on all four corners to what was going on in the tRump Administration (sales of 1984 increased by 9500 percent during tRump I).

Orwell's '1984' has become a conservative rallying cry - The Washington Post


https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/orwell-1984-






Why did the FCC just fast-track George Soros' purchase of 220+ radio stations?
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….but you are ok with Sinclair's mass local TV station propaganda machine:



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bearister said:

….but you are ok with Sinclair's mass local TV station propaganda machine:





That's the same message as CNN et al though, they're both part of the MSM.
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thanks B..
> htps://i.imgflip.com/8b4uhf.gif

if memory serves this fool was an apple employee sitting in the room (@deanza cc) when steve's 1984 video dropped.

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bearister said:

bear2034 said:


George Soros is publicly forming an Orwellian propaganda machine endorsed by Democrats.


As a guy that loves Orwell's 1984 so much that I read it 3 times (and enjoyed the movie with Richard Burton and John Hurt), it always makes me giggle when the literature challenged Right co opts the book after thousands of articles were written during the tRump reign applying the book on all four corners to what was going on in the tRump Administration (sales of 1984 increased by 9500 percent during tRump I).

Orwell's '1984' has become a conservative rallying cry - The Washington Post


https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/orwell-1984-




We have always been at war with Eastasia/Eurasia...
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dajo9
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This is why the media is censoring the hacked Donold materials. There's a ton of Vance dumping on Donold in there. Rest assured if the tables were turned it would be every headline until election day.

https://www.threads.net/@marlenelrobertson/post/DAZkEKsyOMB/?xmt=AQGzn_EoYgYvqDZ62BKPGVI0HmmyKctow8w6fXlSDlHp2g
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Is it safe to assume the Julian Assange and Edward Snowden Fan Clubs are outraged?

Ken Klippenstein Suspended From X After Publishing Dossier


https://www.mediaite.com/election-2024/just-in-journalist-ken-klippenstein-suspended-by-x-after-publishing-hacked-jd-vance-dossier/
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dajo9 said:

This is why the media is censoring the hacked Donold materials. There's a ton of Vance dumping on Donold in there. Rest assured if the tables were turned it would be every headline until election day.

https://www.threads.net/@marlenelrobertson/post/DAZkEKsyOMB/?xmt=AQGzn_EoYgYvqDZ62BKPGVI0HmmyKctow8w6fXlSDlHp2g


A couple of pages of the Table of Contents of the Vance Dossier.





Trump picked him anyways.
…Trump identifies people who he can control. That was the overriding concern
. Nothing to do with Vance's beliefs or abilities.
Trump is different than most everyone else. He reads people and plays mind games better than most. He's a con man. He's conned city officials and contractors (unpaid) his whole life.
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Looks like Newsmax' bullsh@it Free Speech defense took an Uber home once it saw the whites of the eyes of the jury in the box.

Newsmax and Smartmatic settle 2020 election defamation case on eve of trial | CNN Business


https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/26/media/newsmax-smartmatic-settle-defamation-case/index.html

"Smartmatic lawyer Erik Connolly said in a statement that the company was "very pleased to have secured the completion" of the Newsmax case.

"Lying to the American people has consequences," Connolly said. "Smartmatic will not stop until the perpetrators are held accountable."
The closely watched trial would have been the first of several high profile lawsuits filed against right wing media companies in the wake of the 2020 election to reach a jury and was set to determine whether Newsmax defamed Smartmatic by airing false claims the company's machines had rigged the results against Donald Trump."

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concordtom
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You started this thread. And now "your side" is engaged in censorship.

I look forward to reading how you spin this in your own head.
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The extent of that control will be on full display at the running mates' debate when Vance has to say some really stupid things.

My guess is that tRump makes his sons, Tweedle Dumb and Tweedle Dumber, and Vance play a robust game of Boar on the Floor every time they are together at Mar a Lago.

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concordtom said:

You started this thread. And now "your side" is engaged in censorship.

I look forward to reading how you spin this in your own head.

Trump, DeSantis et al are pro-censorship for example when it comes to shutting down protests about Gaza, and when that happens I will be the first to denounce that, because I am not a partisan hack.

This being said, Hillary, Kamala, Walz et al are a lot worse on the subject of the First Amendment.
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bearister said:

Is it safe to assume the Julian Assange and Edward Snowden Fan Clubs are outraged?

Ken Klippenstein Suspended From X After Publishing Dossier


https://www.mediaite.com/election-2024/just-in-journalist-ken-klippenstein-suspended-by-x-after-publishing-hacked-jd-vance-dossier/
You're ignoring the key part. He was suspended for doxing personal information which has always been against policy. It is particularly bad given that it included Vance's home address which, given recent assassination attempts, is bad. And Ken Klippenstein is a partisan who quite intentionally did that knowing it wasn't permitted and probably intending to cause problems for Vance.

He can delete the post, redact the documents, and then repost the dossier.

The funny part, of course, is that the dossier was stolen by Iran and given to the dems/press to interfere in the election. Actual election interference far more direct and obvious than what Russia ever did.

So the real question is why are the people who were so outraged at the supposed Russian interreference (possibly including you) saying nothing about Iran's overt attempts to help Harris?

Seems noteworthy that the world's worst sponsor or terror is actively supporting the Dem candidate - the same dem candidate who gave Iran billions of dollars of cash and sanction relief which was then used to light the middle east on fire.





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bearister said:

Is it safe to assume the Julian Assange and Edward Snowden Fan Clubs are outraged?

Ken Klippenstein Suspended From X After Publishing Dossier

Democrats dox.
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Donold says he will prosecute Google for having too many bad stories about him
https://www.threads.net/@joeylanyc/post/DAbmLByp6sG/?xmt=AQGz3dAxuShTOMysPGpEWkKm35kWi8sMJ_ozJ_AVUF1Eog
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Trump Rips Fox News for Airing Kamala Harris's 'Bullsh*t'


https://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-blasts-fox-news-for-airing-part-of-harriss-bullsht-friday-night-speech-they-shouldnt-be-allowed-to-put-it-on/


Twitter Under "Free Speech Absolutist" Elon Musk Is Actually Suspending Way More People Than Before


https://futurism.com/the-byte/twitter-suspending-more-people
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The government controls all the information except X. The y persecute whatever right wing truths come out with more lies.

This is important news suppressed unconstitutionally
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Peanuts said:

Like the rest of the Democrats, John Kerry supports repealing the First Amendment so that they can be the sole source of disinformation



I support revoking your userID(s) and all posting rights.
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HawaiiBear33 said:



The government controls all the information except X. The y persecute whatever right wing truths come out with more lies.

This is important news suppressed unconstitutionally


Dan Bongino is lying to you. Do you care? The truth is easily researched. Will you do it?
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Your government and all the sources you trust are the ones lying. You can't even see that crime is up because the fbi says it is not. You have given up your touch with reality because it is easy and comforting to keep believing the bull then to realize you have been fooled
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Google has been steering "truth." They are not the federal government so I'm not sure what exactly may or may not need to be done.

It is wrong that google and Microsoft pretty much control all searches and block everything anti left, anti great reset…

Is it illegal? Probably not
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dajo9 said:

HawaiiBear33 said:



The government controls all the information except X. The y persecute whatever right wing truths come out with more lies.

This is important news suppressed unconstitutionally


Dan Bongino is lying to you. Do you care? The truth is easily researched. Will you do it?

HawaiiBear33 is a misinformation propagandist, same as the others I've placed on ignore. You should do the same.
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The Trump-Kennedy alliance coalesces in Washington - UnHerd


https://unherd.com/newsroom/the-trump-kennedy-alliance-coalesces-in-washington/



"Writing in the Journal, Molly Ball said the rally was a "testament to the axis of weird that has assembled to support Trump's candidacy a cross-partisan fringe united by little more than conspiratorial contrarianism."

Rescue the Republic didn't meet expectations - The Spectator World


https://thespectator.com/topic/rescue-republic-didnt-meet-expectations/

*It looks like Taibbi may not be completely sold on the concept that Musk is the Standard Bearer for Free Speech.

Twitter Files' Matt Taibbi Says Elon Musk Sent Him Unhinged Messages | The New Republic


https://newrepublic.com/post/179067/twitter-files-matt-taibbi-messages-elon-musk

*Russell Brand is convert to Roman Catholicism and is now a tool for Far Right Wing Catholics (like J.D. Vance). If I was Taibbi I would not have appeared at the same event with that sexual predator piece of human garbage. I have seen Brand on Maher a couple of times. He is insufferable.

Behind the Catholic Right's Celebrity-Conversion Industrial Complex | Vanity Fair


https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/catholic-right-celebrity-conversion-industrial-complex
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CT could learn from his cousin

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Yeah, Musk is all about lifting humanity. Something like that. Musk likes to do what he likes to do. The End.

All the major legal battles Elon Musk and his companies are facing The Mercury News


https://www.mercurynews.com/2024/10/01/all-the-major-legal-battles-elon-musk-and-his-companies-are-facing/


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bearister said:

Yeah, Musk is all about lifting humanity. Something like that. Musk likes to do what he likes to do. The End.

All the major legal battles Elon Musk and his companies are facing The Mercury News


https://www.mercurynews.com/2024/10/01/all-the-major-legal-battles-elon-musk-and-his-companies-are-facing/


He wouldn't have had most of these if he wasn't a political target, and he's a target because unlike the other tech oligarchs (Bezos, Zuck, Ellison etc), he doesn't play ball with the government/deep state. I mean look at this pathetic piece of lawfare:
Quote:

Drug Use, Delaware Chancery Court
A shareholder suit alleges that Musk's use of illicit recreational drugs threatens Tesla's business, including by apparently influencing his sometimes erratic behavior online.
At stake: The lawsuit seeks closer supervision of Musk's social media posts about Tesla, which are already supposed to be vetted under an agreement he reached in 2018 with the Securities and Exchange Commission and unsuccessfully challenged all the way to the US Supreme Court.

The other labor-related lawsuits are pure lawfare as well. If anything those lawsuits are a major indictment of the American legal system and regulatory process. Here's a guy who has done the impossible, building the most valuable auto company in the world in America, hundreds of thousands of high-paying jobs, yet he is treated like a pariah, and attacked by labor unions?!?
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Yeah, and I've always thought the thousands of business lawsuits against tRump were just because he was an easy target.

Right Wing Catholics feel the same way about having to pay out $3,000,000,000+ in settlements and jury verdicts in those pesky "lawfare" child rape, er, ah, I mean clergy misconduct cases. Thank God The Church is recruiting "real Catholics" like J.D. Vance, Shia LaBeouf and Russell Brand.
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The antidote to speech you don't like is not censorship.
We are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people."
John F. Kennedy

Jefferson's Bill sets out four reasons why government can make no law that constrains our freedom of speech, conscience, or opinion. Those four reasons were summed up by Justice Brandeis in Whitney, and they have been further developed by the Supreme Court since then:
1. Freedom of conscience is an unalienable right because people can only think for themselves;
2. Free speech makes representatives accountable to We the People;
3. Free speech is necessary for the discovery of truth and the rejection of falsehood;
4. Free speech allows the public discussion necessary for democratic self government.

If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."
[Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927)]
Louis Brandeis

Free discourse without threat of fine or imprisonment is the necessary method to ensure adversarial victory for true ideas. History is full of instances where central authority over information flow preserved false ideas.

There was no time in history where the people who were censoring free speech were the good guys.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

Once a government is committed to the principle of silencing the voice of opposition, it has only one way to go, and that is down the path of increasingly repressive measures, until it becomes a source of terror to all its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in fear.
Harry S. Truman

For the Far Left, tolerance does not mean tolerance. It means first, acceptance. And second, celebration. That is totalitarianism: You not only have to live with what you may differ with, dear citizen, you have to celebrate it or pay a steep price.
Dennis Prage

No man/woman who is corrupt, no man/woman who condones corruption in others, can possibly do his/her duty by the community.
Theodore Roosevelt

There's two choices:
Either allow for some speech that you don't like.

OR

The government will allow only the speech that they like.
Peter Tarrd

If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?
Sam Harris


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Catholic rapers should be prosecuted like all other rapers…

 
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