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concordtom said:

Based on your post, I thought this relevant.


It is important to distinguish between office and industrial/distribution. Office is HORRIFICALLY bad right now. But flex space 2 story tilt ups is a product type that is flying off the shelf.

Dave (I know him!) is right about the big distribution places ((think inland empire million square feet buildings). But if you dive into properties that are 50,000 to 200,000 sqf the inventory is so tight. Plus Dave has a vested interest in always talking down the position of landlords - he is a tenant rep guy.
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The Penguins that inhabit the Heard and McDonald Islands with human population of ZERO will be holding a Press Conference shortly to respond to Trump's 10% tariffs on the islands.

You just cant make this **** up!

The stable genius placed a tariff on some barren Antarctic islands in the Indian Ocean with Population of 0.

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DiabloWags said:

The Penguins that inhabit the Heard and McDonald Islands with human population of ZERO will be holding a Press Conference shortly to respond to Trump's 10% tariffs on the islands.

You just cant make this **** up!

The stable genius placed a tariff on some barren Antarctic islands in the Indian Ocean with Population of 0.

They almost certainly just had ChatGPT just pull a list of ISO country codes and formed the list based on that. I guess they were aware enough to take US territories like Puerto Rico and Guam off the list but left a whole lot of other dependent territories on there. Because they don't know what they're doing.

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DiabloWags said:

The Penguins that inhabit the Heard and McDonald Islands with human population of ZERO will be holding a Press Conference shortly to respond to Trump's 10% tariffs on the islands.

You just cant make this **** up!

The stable genius placed a tariff on some barren Antarctic islands in the Indian Ocean with Population of 0.




I'd be interested in putting tariffs on the Penguins of Madagascar. They are always up to no good.
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DiabloWags
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bearister said:




Coming to Big Pharma that book all of their profits in IRELAND, due to a ...wait for it ...wait for it ... a tax loophole that U.S. pharma giants exploited in the 2017 Trump tax overhaul to shift profits offshore.

Pfizer sold $20 Billion in drugs in the U. S. in 2019
Their federal tax liability was: 0

In 2023, Ireland accounted for 40% of the U.S.'s $101 Billion trade deficit in biopharmaceuticals, according to UBS.


oski003
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DiabloWags said:

bearister said:




Coming to Big Pharma that book all of their profits in IRELAND, due to a ...wait for it ...wait for it ... a tax loophole that U.S. pharma giants exploited in the 2017 Trump tax overhaul to shift profits offshore.

Pfizer sold $20 Billion in drugs in the U. S. in 2019
Their federal tax liability was: 0

In 2023, Ireland accounted for 40% of the U.S.'s $101 Billion trade deficit in biopharmaceuticals, according to UBS.





Do you have a link?
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oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

bearister said:




Coming to Big Pharma that book all of their profits in IRELAND, due to a ...wait for it ...wait for it ... a tax loophole that U.S. pharma giants exploited in the 2017 Trump tax overhaul to shift profits offshore.

Pfizer sold $20 Billion in drugs in the U. S. in 2019
Their federal tax liability was: 0

In 2023, Ireland accounted for 40% of the U.S.'s $101 Billion trade deficit in biopharmaceuticals, according to UBS.


Do you have a link?

He's right, many multinationals like Pfizer, GAFA etc parked in Ireland pay no or little income tax. Big scam/loophole.
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Cal88 said:




He's right, many multinationals like Pfizer, GAFA etc parked in Ireland pay no or little income tax. Big scam/loophole.

Yup.
A nice big loophole in TRUMP's TCJA of 2017.

MAGA!!!
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sycasey said:

DiabloWags said:

The Penguins that inhabit the Heard and McDonald Islands with human population of ZERO will be holding a Press Conference shortly to respond to Trump's 10% tariffs on the islands.

You just cant make this **** up!

The stable genius placed a tariff on some barren Antarctic islands in the Indian Ocean with Population of 0.

They almost certainly just had ChatGPT just pull a list of ISO country codes and formed the list based on that. I guess they were aware enough to take US territories like Puerto Rico and Guam off the list but left a whole lot of other dependent territories on there. Because they don't know what they're doing.




ChatGPTariff?
oski003
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Cal88 said:

oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

bearister said:




Coming to Big Pharma that book all of their profits in IRELAND, due to a ...wait for it ...wait for it ... a tax loophole that U.S. pharma giants exploited in the 2017 Trump tax overhaul to shift profits offshore.

Pfizer sold $20 Billion in drugs in the U. S. in 2019
Their federal tax liability was: 0

In 2023, Ireland accounted for 40% of the U.S.'s $101 Billion trade deficit in biopharmaceuticals, according to UBS.


Do you have a link?

He's right, many multinationals like Pfizer, GAFA etc parked in Ireland pay no or little income tax. Big scam/loophole.


Do you have a link that supports what wags said regarding the 2017 tax overhaul opening up a new loophole?
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Showmen always need props.





*Trump is literally a 10 year old moron
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WELCOME TO DUMBERICA!

WHERE PEOPLE VOTED FOR AN ORANGE **** STAIN THAT JUST DESTROYED $2.5 TRILLION OF WEALTH IN A SINGLE DAY.

MAGA!!!
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Because Trade Wars are so easy to Win!

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Once you see it, you can't unsee it.
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MORE MAGA ON FRIDAY!

DONALD TRUMP: THE GREAT WEALTH DESTOYER!!!

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These aren't reciprocal tariffs.

Maybe one day you'll realize you've been duped by a sleazy businessman who managed to bankrupt a casino. I won't hold my breath tho
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MORE WEALTH DESTRUCTION BY TRUMP.

WELCOME TO DUMBERICA!

ANOTHER $2 TRILLION.

MAGA!!!

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It was a facade, a total lie: new documents reveal how Trump University's scam worked | Vox


https://www.vox.com/2016/6/1/11827596/trump-university-scam

Do you think the working man that voted for Trump Redux is having that Trump University enrollee moment of realization that they've been had?



….or as Johnny Rotten said from the stage at Winterland..



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DiabloWags
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$5 TRILLION DESTROYED in 2 DAYS.

But don't worry.

Trump's economic advisor Peter Navarro said on Fox News last Sunday that Trump's tariffs will bring in $6 Trillion OVER A DECADE.
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I wonder if the GOP in Congress doesn't care about getting "crushed" in November.

Or are they fine with being a one-term representative?

Aside from Rand Paul, they've been pretty quiet.

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Lucky Russell Brand is being prosecuted in England rather than here. Trump would pardon a fellow p@ussy grabber.
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I've already posted replies which convey the same message, but this meme is too on point.

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Wondering if we hit the 7% circuit breakers today for a 15-minute trading halt.
Haven't seen the circuit breakers since late October of 1997.

Could happen.





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DiabloWags said:

Wondering if we hit the 7% circuit breakers today for a 15-minute trading halt.
Haven't seen the circuit breakers since late October of 1997.

Could happen.








Were you asleep in March 2020?
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To be consistent with Trump's pattern, he needs a headline distraction right about now.

Attack Iran?
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Looks like the U.S. will move from an average effective tariff of 10% to just over 23%.

The Smoot-Hawley Act in 1930 had tariffs at 20%.

And then the Republicans lost the House and the Senate for 60 years.

MAGA!!!
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sycasey said:




The discussion of tariffs actually could be potentially be interesting, other than the fact that it's happening on this board where people like DiabloWags who imagines himself as some sort of economic savant but is actually just a ****** pounding on his keyboard in all caps. Then you add in all of the Trump Derangement Syndrome liberals who are still smarting from getting owned in the presidential election and any hope of nuance goes flying out the window.

For the 2-3 people in this forum that might possess some level of intellectual honestly and can admit that globalization and trade agreements hollowed out the middle class in this country to the benefit of CEO pay and Wall Street ghouls like DiabloWags wishes he was, but would get laughed out of their parties, these videos make some points that are worth exploring.



Note that Trump and tariffs is like a 3 year old that finds his father's gun and wants to play with it. His tariff "strategy", such as it is, is not at all well thought out and probably will fail spectacularly. However, the idea of taking away the benefit of cheap overseas labor, either permanently or as a negotiating ploy to encourage companies to do some of their manufacturing with American labor (rather than using cheaper foreign labor and then shipping product overseas) is not without merit. If tariffs were always bad, the rest of the world wouldn't use them.

First video attacks the notion that the free trade era has ended, since it never actually existed to begin with. Second video talks about the history of tariffs in the McKinley era (something Trump references all the time) and talks about the three different goals tariffs can accomplish. Both videos are short.




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Trump's tariff policy is a sledgehammer but it's purpose is not to be used permanently, it's to initiate bilateral negotiations. He's going to force nations to begin negotiations because of tariffs. Put it this way, if he did nothing, nothing would change. If you're a country ripping off the US, you would rather like that to continue happening.
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The Trump tariffs now have an average effective rate of 23%
More than the 20% that "protected" farmers and manufacturing in the U.S. under Smoot-Hawley in 1930.

After Smoot-Hawley, the Republicans lost the House AND the Senate for the next 60 years.

MAGA for MORONS!!!


What Was the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act? How It Compares to Trump's Reciprocal Tariffs Plan - Newsweek
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Stagflation is coming.

MAGA!!!

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DiabloWags said:

Stagflation is coming.

MAGA!!!




Thanks for the breaking news. I didn't realize there were tariffs, and the market was down. Interesting.
 
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