DiabloWags said:

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It's bizarre that Trump and the White House want to penalize the greatest company to ever be created in the history of mankind . . . APPLE.

They largely moved out of China into other countries like Vietnam for assembly during Trump's first term.
And now they're being penalized by the Orange Crap Stain.

Why?

No American is going to want to pay $3,000 for an iPhone 16 Pro

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Since you implied that Apple doesn't make the IPhone 16 Pro in China, can you break down why it would jump in price from $1,000 to $3,000? You seem to just talk out of your ass.

LudwigsFountain said:

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Matt Parker explains just how stupid Trump's tariff chart is.

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We should make tshirts with the formula mocking maga.

Who can come up with a good design?
Separate thread for entrees and judging?

bearister said:

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In a different era they would have run Trump out of town on a rail like a corrupt mayor weeks ago.

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I'd have been more giddy had the rail run through, rather than he on.

concordtom said:

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We should make tshirts with the formula mocking maga.

Who can come up with a good design?
Separate thread for entrees and judging?

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Jeans made in Los Angeles cost 3.5x more than Vietnam.

Labor in Vietnam = $1.50 an hour.

MAGA!!!

DiabloWags said:

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concordtom said:

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We should make tshirts with the formula mocking maga.

Who can come up with a good design?
Separate thread for entrees and judging?

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Jeans made in Los Angeles cost 3.5x more than Vietnam.
$60 an hour labor vs $1.50 an hour.

MAGA!!!

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DiabloWags said:

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concordtom said:

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We should make tshirts with the formula mocking maga.

Who can come up with a good design?
Separate thread for entrees and judging?

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Jeans made in Los Angeles cost 3.5x more than Vietnam.
$60 an hour labor vs $1.50 an hour.

MAGA!!!

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When did people sewing jeans in Los Angeles start making $60 per hour? Did you get the number out of your ass? Assuming they are actually legal workers, they'd make about $18-20 per hour.

This is what happens when you DESTROY $12 TRILLION of WEALTH in the U.S. stock market in less than 2 months . . . MAGA!



US consumer sentiment plummets to second-lowest level on records going back to 1952 | CNN Business

oski003 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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concordtom said:

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We should make tshirts with the formula mocking maga.

Who can come up with a good design?
Separate thread for entrees and judging?

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Jeans made in Los Angeles cost 3.5x more than Vietnam.
$60 an hour labor vs $1.50 an hour.

MAGA!!!

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When did people sewing jeans in Los Angeles start making $60 per hour? Did you get the number out of your ass? Assuming they are actually legal workers, they'd make about $18-20 per hour.

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Add another 30% to that labor cost with the payroll overhead.

Still it is possible to have competitive textile jobs in the US at the higher end, the way Italy does today. Jeans retailing over $100 can be manufactured in the US, $35 jeans from Walmart or Old Navy, not so much.

Cal88 said:

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oski003 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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concordtom said:

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We should make tshirts with the formula mocking maga.

Who can come up with a good design?
Separate thread for entrees and judging?

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Jeans made in Los Angeles cost 3.5x more than Vietnam.
$60 an hour labor vs $1.50 an hour.

MAGA!!!

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When did people sewing jeans in Los Angeles start making $60 per hour? Did you get the number out of your ass? Assuming they are actually legal workers, they'd make about $18-20 per hour.

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Add another 30% to that labor cost with the payroll overhead.

Still it is possible to have competitive textile jobs in the US at the higher end, the way Italy does today. Jeans retailing over $100 can be manufactured in the US, $35 jeans from Walmart or Old Navy, not so much.

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Sure, but 30% is much less than 300% !!!

oski003 said:

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Cal88 said:

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oski003 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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concordtom said:

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We should make tshirts with the formula mocking maga.

Who can come up with a good design?
Separate thread for entrees and judging?

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Jeans made in Los Angeles cost 3.5x more than Vietnam.
$60 an hour labor vs $1.50 an hour.

MAGA!!!

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When did people sewing jeans in Los Angeles start making $60 per hour? Did you get the number out of your ass? Assuming they are actually legal workers, they'd make about $18-20 per hour.

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Add another 30% to that labor cost with the payroll overhead.

Still it is possible to have competitive textile jobs in the US at the higher end, the way Italy does today. Jeans retailing over $100 can be manufactured in the US, $35 jeans from Walmart or Old Navy, not so much.

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Sure, but 30% is much less than 300% !!!

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but bootlick ludnick laid out a plan where robots would "screw in the multiple screws for an iPhone". We should be fine plus we have 240m people. Wheew

cal83dls79 said:

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oski003 said:

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Cal88 said:

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oski003 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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concordtom said:

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We should make tshirts with the formula mocking maga.

Who can come up with a good design?
Separate thread for entrees and judging?

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Jeans made in Los Angeles cost 3.5x more than Vietnam.
$60 an hour labor vs $1.50 an hour.

MAGA!!!

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When did people sewing jeans in Los Angeles start making $60 per hour? Did you get the number out of your ass? Assuming they are actually legal workers, they'd make about $18-20 per hour.

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Add another 30% to that labor cost with the payroll overhead.

Still it is possible to have competitive textile jobs in the US at the higher end, the way Italy does today. Jeans retailing over $100 can be manufactured in the US, $35 jeans from Walmart or Old Navy, not so much.

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Sure, but 30% is much less than 300% !!!

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but bootlick ludnick laid out a plan where robots would "screw in the multiple screws for an iPhone". We should be fine plus we have 240m people. Wheew

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Not relevant to this specific point. You are all over the place.

oski003 said:

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cal83dls79 said:

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oski003 said:

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Cal88 said:

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oski003 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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concordtom said:

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We should make tshirts with the formula mocking maga.

Who can come up with a good design?
Separate thread for entrees and judging?

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Jeans made in Los Angeles cost 3.5x more than Vietnam.
$60 an hour labor vs $1.50 an hour.

MAGA!!!

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When did people sewing jeans in Los Angeles start making $60 per hour? Did you get the number out of your ass? Assuming they are actually legal workers, they'd make about $18-20 per hour.

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Add another 30% to that labor cost with the payroll overhead.

Still it is possible to have competitive textile jobs in the US at the higher end, the way Italy does today. Jeans retailing over $100 can be manufactured in the US, $35 jeans from Walmart or Old Navy, not so much.

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Sure, but 30% is much less than 300% !!!

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but bootlick ludnick laid out a plan where robots would "screw in the multiple screws for an iPhone". We should be fine plus we have 240m people. Wheew

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Not relevant to this specific point. You are all over the place.

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I'm just rephrasing you if you weren't aware. Maybe you missed the commerce secretary's vision of the future for building iPhones with robots that screw in a lot of stuff. Pay attention to your cabinet

oski003 said:

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Cal88 said:

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oski003 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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concordtom said:

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We should make tshirts with the formula mocking maga.

Who can come up with a good design?
Separate thread for entrees and judging?

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Jeans made in Los Angeles cost 3.5x more than Vietnam.
$60 an hour labor vs $1.50 an hour.

MAGA!!!

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When did people sewing jeans in Los Angeles start making $60 per hour? Did you get the number out of your ass? Assuming they are actually legal workers, they'd make about $18-20 per hour.

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Add another 30% to that labor cost with the payroll overhead.

Still it is possible to have competitive textile jobs in the US at the higher end, the way Italy does today. Jeans retailing over $100 can be manufactured in the US, $35 jeans from Walmart or Old Navy, not so much.

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Sure, but 30% is much less than 300% !!!

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30% of $20/hr = $26/hr in the US,

vs. in Vietnam:

300% of $1.50/hr = $6/hr total after tariff.

Even if you add the extra cost of tariffs applied on materials and shipping from Asia, it's still a pretty big gap.

The key is if your labor is doing more complicated work on expensive fabric and high end machinery, then it becomes feasible (see Italian textile industry).

oski003 said:

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cal83dls79 said:

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oski003 said:

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Cal88 said:

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oski003 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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concordtom said:

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We should make tshirts with the formula mocking maga.

Who can come up with a good design?
Separate thread for entrees and judging?

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Jeans made in Los Angeles cost 3.5x more than Vietnam.
$60 an hour labor vs $1.50 an hour.

MAGA!!!

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When did people sewing jeans in Los Angeles start making $60 per hour? Did you get the number out of your ass? Assuming they are actually legal workers, they'd make about $18-20 per hour.

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Add another 30% to that labor cost with the payroll overhead.

Still it is possible to have competitive textile jobs in the US at the higher end, the way Italy does today. Jeans retailing over $100 can be manufactured in the US, $35 jeans from Walmart or Old Navy, not so much.

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Sure, but 30% is much less than 300% !!!

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but bootlick ludnick laid out a plan where robots would "screw in the multiple screws for an iPhone". We should be fine plus we have 240m people. Wheew

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Not relevant to this specific point. You are all over the place.

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we were taking about the price of iPhones right? Well the screw robots apparently have that problem solved. His comments have been universally panned as dimwitted.

Heard on CNBC just now that 80% of market participants expect the tariffs to disappear by 3 months.

Makes sense, given where the SPX is trading.

cal83dls79 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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cal83dls79 said:

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we were taking about the price of iPhones right? Well the screw robots apparently have that problem solved. His comments have been universally panned as dimwitted.

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Here are Lutnick's comments from Face the Nation last week with Margaret Brennan:

"The army of millions and millions of human beings screwing in little screws to make iPhones that kind of thing is going to come to America," Lutnick said.

My mouth dropped to the floor when I heard this INSANITY.
Can't wait for an iPhone 16 Pro that goes for $3,000.

Howard Lutnick says he hopes Trump's tariffs will eliminate China's 'army of millions and millions of human beings screwing in little, little screws to make iPhones' so they can be built in America by robots | Fortune

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those dang tiny screws are a btch. Maybe they can tighten up some of movie's screws?

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They are making $60 an hour in L.A.! Can't they figure out how to tighten tiny screws???

oski003 said:

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cal83dls79 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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cal83dls79 said:

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we were taking about the price of iPhones right? Well the screw robots apparently have that problem solved. His comments have been universally panned as dimwitted.

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Here are Lutnick's comments from Face the Nation last week with Margaret Brennan:

"The army of millions and millions of human beings screwing in little screws to make iPhones that kind of thing is going to come to America," Lutnick said.

My mouth dropped to the floor when I heard this INSANITY.
Can't wait for an iPhone 16 Pro that goes for $3,000.

Howard Lutnick says he hopes Trump's tariffs will eliminate China's 'army of millions and millions of human beings screwing in little, little screws to make iPhones' so they can be built in America by robots | Fortune

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those dang tiny screws are a btch. Maybe they can tighten up some of movie's screws?

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They are making $60 an hour in L.A.! Can't they figure out how to tighten tiny screws???

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put more A1 sauce on that lol.

DiabloWags said:

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cal83dls79 said:

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we were taking about the price of iPhones right? Well the screw robots apparently have that problem solved. His comments have been universally panned as dimwitted.

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Here are Lutnick's comments from Face the Nation last week with Margaret Brennan:

"The army of millions and millions of human beings screwing in little screws to make iPhones that kind of thing is going to come to America," Lutnick said.

My mouth dropped to the floor when I heard this INSANITY.
Can't wait for an iPhone 16 Pro that goes for $3,000.

Howard Lutnick says he hopes Trump's tariffs will eliminate China's 'army of millions and millions of human beings screwing in little, little screws to make iPhones' so they can be built in America by robots | Fortune

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They will probably cut a special deal for Apple and other VIP firms, otherwise the company will lose a big chunk of its current $3 trillion valuation.

cal83dls79 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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cal83dls79 said:

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we were taking about the price of iPhones right? Well the screw robots apparently have that problem solved. His comments have been universally panned as dimwitted.

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Here are Lutnick's comments from Face the Nation last week with Margaret Brennan:

"The army of millions and millions of human beings screwing in little screws to make iPhones that kind of thing is going to come to America," Lutnick said.

My mouth dropped to the floor when I heard this INSANITY.
Can't wait for an iPhone 16 Pro that goes for $3,000.

Howard Lutnick says he hopes Trump's tariffs will eliminate China's 'army of millions and millions of human beings screwing in little, little screws to make iPhones' so they can be built in America by robots | Fortune

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those dang tiny screws are a btch. Maybe they can tighten up some of movie's screws?

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That could be done. Certainly they are tightening the screws on federal employees like me and my sister.

Cal88 said:

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oski003 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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concordtom said:

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We should make tshirts with the formula mocking maga.

Who can come up with a good design?
Separate thread for entrees and judging?

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Jeans made in Los Angeles cost 3.5x more than Vietnam.
$60 an hour labor vs $1.50 an hour.

MAGA!!!

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When did people sewing jeans in Los Angeles start making $60 per hour? Did you get the number out of your ass? Assuming they are actually legal workers, they'd make about $18-20 per hour.

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Add another 30% to that labor cost with the payroll overhead.

Still it is possible to have competitive textile jobs in the US at the higher end, the way Italy does today. Jeans retailing over $100 can be manufactured in the US, $35 jeans from Walmart or Old Navy, not so much.

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$18 from Walmart

concordtom said:

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Cal88 said:

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oski003 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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concordtom said:

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We should make tshirts with the formula mocking maga.

Who can come up with a good design?
Separate thread for entrees and judging?

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Jeans made in Los Angeles cost 3.5x more than Vietnam.
$60 an hour labor vs $1.50 an hour.

MAGA!!!

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When did people sewing jeans in Los Angeles start making $60 per hour? Did you get the number out of your ass? Assuming they are actually legal workers, they'd make about $18-20 per hour.

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Add another 30% to that labor cost with the payroll overhead.

Still it is possible to have competitive textile jobs in the US at the higher end, the way Italy does today. Jeans retailing over $100 can be manufactured in the US, $35 jeans from Walmart or Old Navy, not so much.

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$18 from Walmart

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what in gods name world does he live in? Obviously doesn't own a house or done any sort of business or worked in a real firm and stuff and again. Why do the mods allow such incompetence on this board? I was questioned and edited from a mod "if Maine women had di*ks" and shot back similarly.I guess morons are ok here . Tried to explain screws and lutnick comments, now the A1 sauce from his secretary of education and as a graduate of the greatest public institution in the world now have to withstand this.

cal83dls79 said:

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concordtom said:

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Cal88 said:

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oski003 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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concordtom said:

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We should make tshirts with the formula mocking maga.

Who can come up with a good design?
Separate thread for entrees and judging?

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Jeans made in Los Angeles cost 3.5x more than Vietnam.
$60 an hour labor vs $1.50 an hour.

MAGA!!!

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When did people sewing jeans in Los Angeles start making $60 per hour? Did you get the number out of your ass? Assuming they are actually legal workers, they'd make about $18-20 per hour.

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Add another 30% to that labor cost with the payroll overhead.

Still it is possible to have competitive textile jobs in the US at the higher end, the way Italy does today. Jeans retailing over $100 can be manufactured in the US, $35 jeans from Walmart or Old Navy, not so much.

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$18 from Walmart

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what in gods name world does he live in? Obviously doesn't own a house or done any sort of business or worked in a real firm and stuff and again. Why do the mods allow such incompetence on this board? I was questioned and edited from a mod "if Maine women had di*ks" and shot back similarly.I guess morons are ok here . Tried to explain screws and lutnick comments, now the A1 sauce from his secretary of education and as a graduate of the greatest public institution in the world now have to withstand this.

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Huh?
All I said was jeans can be bought at Walmart for $18, not $35. Maybe Old Navy is $35, but not Walmart - they're real cheap.

Pocahontas is now on Ignore.

Apple and Nvidia get a reprieve.

Electronics are exempt from tariffs on China and the 10% tariffs from all other countries, according to U.S. Customs and Border Protection documents.

If he keeps backing up, we'll have free trade and he'll get a bull market and can rule for 2 more terms.

Idiot!!!

Cal88 said:

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Cal88 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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cal83dls79 said:

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we were taking about the price of iPhones right? Well the screw robots apparently have that problem solved. His comments have been universally panned as dimwitted.

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Here are Lutnick's comments from Face the Nation last week with Margaret Brennan:

"The army of millions and millions of human beings screwing in little screws to make iPhones that kind of thing is going to come to America," Lutnick said.

My mouth dropped to the floor when I heard this INSANITY.
Can't wait for an iPhone 16 Pro that goes for $3,000.

Howard Lutnick says he hopes Trump's tariffs will eliminate China's 'army of millions and millions of human beings screwing in little, little screws to make iPhones' so they can be built in America by robots | Fortune

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They will probably cut a special deal for Apple and other VIP firms, otherwise the company will lose a big chunk of its current $3 trillion valuation.

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Sure enough.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/12/trump-exempts-phones-computers-chips-tariffs-apple-dell.html
Trump exempts phones, computers, chips from new tariffs

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Awaiting the exemption for fentanyl.
And donations to his personal bank account.

Anarchistbear said:

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We won!
Art of the deal

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Just goes to show that Trump's word is worthless just like his trade agreements like USMCA and he can be easily "bought".

Trump's credibility as a negotiator has diminished after his U-Turn pause.

I wonder how much Putin "donated" ???