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In reply to PAC-10-BEAR • 4:17a, 11/15/25
Who is taking sides? Nobody here, except the trumpsters apologizing for Trump. Keep trying.. release the damn files so we can move on.
A trumpster started this thread demanding release ….crickets now. Go figure
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In reply to cal83dls79 • 6:45a, 11/15/25

Democrats were in bed with Epstein.
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In reply to PAC-10-BEAR • 6:54a, 11/15/25
PAC-10-BEAR said:

Democrats were in bed with Epstein.


They, and the liberal posters here, need to stop defending pedophiles. It is gross.
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7:53a, 11/15/25
I think the evidence that came out from the Epstein emails that Trump gave oral sex to Bill Clinton is not a problem. If that happened it was presumably between two consenting adults. I dont think it should be the focus of the Epstein Trump reporting. If Trump gave Bill Clinton oral sex, as suggested in an Epstein email thread, I think it is their business.
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9:29a, 11/15/25
Terence K Williams, Facebook: "Jeffrey Epstein visited Bill Clinton at the White House 17 times.

"Bill Clinton flew on Epstein's private jet 17 times.
And Clinton infamously had sex with his own intern, Monica Lewinsky, inside the Oval Office.

"Hillary Clinton dragged Monica.
Democrats dragged Monica.
They protected him and destroyed her.

"Then comes the Epstein saga.
Barack Obama and Joe Biden sat on the Epstein files for years no urgency, no transparency, no justice.
Not a single push from Democrats to expose the truth or fight for the victims.

"But now, suddenly, the minute Donald Trump is back in office, Democrats want to pretend they're the moral guardians for Epstein's victims?

"Please. No one with a brain is falling for that.
The hypocrisy is off the charts.
And any Republican joining in on this charade is completely lost."
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In reply to PAC-10-BEAR • 9:35a, 11/15/25
PAC-10-BEAR said:

Democrats were in bed with Epstein.

so what. release ALL the files unredacted and lets see who did what. Why is trump fighting so hard to keep them sealed? i could care less how many dems are in the files. a Pedo is a Pedo regardless of political preference.
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In reply to PAC-10-BEAR • 9:57a, 11/15/25
PAC-10-BEAR said:

Actually, what Trump did was he successfully tricked the Left into acknowledging Epstein after they ignored him for 20 years.


Such a brilliant trick. Trump truly is a sage.

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10:24a, 11/15/25
Trump blowing Clinton or vice versa demonstrated unity over division- behind the scenes there is a lot of mutual love. Couple that with the fact that in 2016 Hillary Clinton
and Donald Trump both had oral sex with Bill and you have the basis of a strong alliance between parties.
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In reply to movielover • 10:32a, 11/15/25
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Terence K Williams, Facebook: "Jeffrey Epstein visited Bill Clinton at the White House 17 times.

"Bill Clinton flew on Epstein's private jet 17 times.
And Clinton infamously had sex with his own intern, Monica Lewinsky, inside the Oval Office.

"Hillary Clinton dragged Monica.
Democrats dragged Monica.
They protected him and destroyed her.

"Then comes the Epstein saga.
Barack Obama and Joe Biden sat on the Epstein files for years no urgency, no transparency, no justice.
Not a single push from Democrats to expose the truth or fight for the victims.

"But now, suddenly, the minute Donald Trump is back in office, Democrats want to pretend they're the moral guardians for Epstein's victims?

"Please. No one with a brain is falling for that.
The hypocrisy is off the charts.
And any Republican joining in on this charade is completely lost."


Democrat corruption is insane.
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In reply to cal83dls79 • 11:00a, 11/15/25
cal83dls79 said:
Who is taking sides? Nobody here, except the trumpsters apologizing for Trump. Keep trying.. release the damn files so we can move on.
A trumpster started this thread demanding release ….crickets now. Go figure

I find it consistently amusing how much these guys think "but Democrats might be guilty too" is an actual rebuttal. Okay, so what? Let them go down too.
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11:58a, 11/15/25
Release the files. Take all the deep state elites down. Who is against that?
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In reply to dajo9 • 12:05p, 11/15/25
dajo9 said:
Release the files. Take all the deep state elites down. Who is against that?


Good question. Are you against that?
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In reply to PAC-10-BEAR • 12:13p, 11/15/25
PAC-10-BEAR said:

Democrats were in bed with Epstein.


lol, it wasn't just the dems, champ;

https://newrepublic.com/post/203201/epstein-steve-bannon-advice-trump-texts

You've taken a record number of Ls in this thread. It's a clinic of loserdom. We're all in awe of your own goal ability. Of course, the most significant own goal you've scored was the one wherein you started this thread in which you go from seemingly wanting the truth exposed to not really caring all that much for it. Slick evolution.
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In reply to Haloski • 1:06p, 11/15/25
It's been a lambasting for sure.
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In reply to dajo9 • 2:41p, 11/15/25
dajo9 said:
I think the evidence that came out from the Epstein emails that Trump gave oral sex to Bill Clinton is not a problem. If that happened it was presumably between two consenting adults. I dont think it should be the focus of the Epstein Trump reporting. If Trump gave Bill Clinton oral sex, as suggested in an Epstein email thread, I think it is their business.



No wonder Hillary suicided Vince Foster and Jeffrey Epstein.
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In reply to Anarchistbear • 2:45p, 11/15/25
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Trump blowing Clinton or vice versa demonstrated unity over division- behind the scenes there is a lot of mutual love. Couple that with the fact that in 2016 Hillary Clinton
and Donald Trump both had oral sex with Bill and you have the basis of a strong alliance between parties.


Speaking of blows...
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In reply to sycasey • 3:15p, 11/15/25
sycasey said:
cal83dls79 said:
Who is taking sides? Nobody here, except the trumpsters apologizing for Trump. Keep trying.. release the damn files so we can move on.
A trumpster started this thread demanding release ….crickets now. Go figure

I find it consistently amusing how much these guys think "but Democrats might be guilty too" is an actual rebuttal. Okay, so what? Let them go down too.

Democrats might be guilty?

Democrats are guilty of everything they accused Trump of doing.
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In reply to Haloski • 3:23p, 11/15/25
Haloski said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:

Democrats were in bed with Epstein.


lol, it wasn't just the dems, champ;

https://newrepublic.com/post/203201/epstein-steve-bannon-advice-trump-texts

You've taken a record number of Ls in this thread. It's a clinic of loserdom. We're all in awe of your own goal ability. Of course, the most significant own goal you've scored was the one wherein you started this thread in which you go from seemingly wanting the truth exposed to not really caring all that much for it. Slick evolution.

Obama spied on Trump and found out he was the cleanest man in the world.

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In reply to graguna • 3:39p, 11/15/25
graguna said:
PAC-10-BEAR said:
Democrats were in bed with Epstein.

so what. release ALL the files unredacted and lets see who did what. Why is trump fighting so hard to keep them sealed? i could care less how many dems are in the files. a Pedo is a Pedo regardless of political preference.

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In reply to cal83dls79 • 3:51p, 11/15/25
I'm sure you're all aware that Reid Hoffman, the billionaire co-founder of LinkedIn and a prominent Democratic donor, and Epstein Island visitor was a major financial backer of Trump accuser, E. Jean Carroll.
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In reply to PAC-10-BEAR • 3:52p, 11/15/25
Whatever happened to Attorney General Pam Bondi releasing Phase 2?

Or do you not care anymore?

"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
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In reply to DiabloWags • 3:59p, 11/15/25
DiabloWags said:
Whatever happened to Attorney General Pam Bondi releasing Phase 2?

Or do you not care anymore?

Reid Hoffman used the nonprofit "American Future" to funnel his money to E Jean Carroll and to support her bogus lawsuit against Trump. Why aren't Democrats interested?
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In reply to PAC-10-BEAR • 4:03p, 11/15/25
Their policies, results, and people are so weak, all they can do is throw mud.

Obamacare a disaster
Autopen economy 1.5 million fake jobs, record inflation
Affirmative action fails
Big cities fail
Defund police fails
Rampant drug use fails
Big city public education fails
DEI fails
Open border really fails, pushing all departments to insolvency

Gavin Newsom can't tell us where $24 Billion went for drug bazaars, and they've only exploded. Newsom now lies and says he grew up eating Wonder Bread while talking w NBA players! Now the LA Times reveals fire fighters on the scene pre Pacific Palisades Fire wanted to keep a crew on a smoldering fire - DEI leaders pulled them off. Was this the plan? In the neatly year since did fire, only nine homes have started construction. Nine. Some claim they can't get fire insurance.

Newsom has had seven years to thin forests, cut fire breaks, conduct controlled burns, ramp up summer wildfire crews, hammer the Feds to thin Federal lands, remove Eucalyptus trees, create new logging ventures, train prison crews to fight summer fires, buy Super Scooper airplanes, etc., and he hasn't. He could have done all of the above, declared an Emergency, put all hands on deck, made substantial progress thinning our overgrown forests, and insurance companies would have taken note.
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4:16p, 11/15/25

Why aren't Democrats talking about Rep. Plaskett was texting Epstein during congressional hearings?

She was receiving real-time coaching from your favorite peedo.
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In reply to Aunburdened • 11:47p, 11/15/25
Huh???
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In reply to dajo9 • 11:50p, 11/15/25
dajo9 said:
Release the files. Take all the deep state elites down. Who is against that?


How about "take all the amoral perverts down", instead.
This whole "deep state" phrase disgusts me.
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In reply to sycasey • 11:59p, 11/15/25
sycasey said:
cal83dls79 said:
Who is taking sides? Nobody here, except the trumpsters apologizing for Trump. Keep trying.. release the damn files so we can move on.
A trumpster started this thread demanding release ….crickets now. Go figure

I find it consistently amusing how much these guys think "but Democrats might be guilty too" is an actual rebuttal. Okay, so what? Let them go down too.

I was talking with my unintelligent friend from 8th grade today about Trump's amorality and I began counting his cheated-upon-3-wives, his known affairs, his confession on Howard Stern to being a "sexual predator", his grab them by the P line….do anything you want…

My friend is a Mormon who was a virgin on his wedding night at 30, and he's only been with 1 woman. Honorable, and unimportant to this post other than to say, - "so you'd think he'd be with me in the amorality line of thinking, right?"

A conditioned "republican", he didn't say, "wow, you're right, he's bad." Instead he said, "Well, Biden was a horrible president", and in his litany of complaints added: Clinton, Monica Lewinsky, Hillary is an ass bag, or some such.

I calmly laughed. "Do you see what you did? We were talking about Trump's womanizing, and you suddenly flipped to 3 other topics and people.
Why can't you just condemn the man on his own merits?"

Maybe some here don't care about body count, or see it as a measure of personal restraint, a character trait that carries over to other aspects of how one will conduct himself, or herself, in other aspects of life. But you'd think that my friend would, right? Given his background?

I mean, if I bolted him down to it, or course he condemns Trump! But the partisanship is SO STRONG that he forgets himself and his value system and instead regurgitates the pre conditioned, pre programmed response!

"But but but…."
It is rehearsed, practiced, put upon the audience nightly, daily.



The mantra is repeated so often the response is Pavlovian.



It IS possible, quite easy, to train people subconsciously! Ever watch a hypnotist do a stage show? Sometimes people in the audience become hypnotized and they didn't even know it. They get brought up on stage.

Or, just ask yourself why ad campaigns are everywhere. Because they work!




They are NOT great!
They are poison!

We humans don't understand why we behave or think the way we do. We live most our lives in the subconscious, yet think we are so evolved!
Yes, we are so evolved that we were able to offload the keys to survival to the subconscious. So that our prefrontal cortex could figure out new things, like how to go to the moon.

It's fascinating!
Trump has figured out how to brainwash everyone he ever did a business deal with! He's a master manipulator, for sure!

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12:30a, 11/16/25
You see, my story about my Mormon friend above has already been figured out, in this book, which I need to find and read (listen, actually).


https://www.opendoor-bookstore.com/book/9781916346017



Quote:

You don't think you've ever been hypnotised by a politician? Or anyone else out to persuade you? This might change your mind.

Comply with Me solves the puzzle of how Donald Trump gains and keeps loyal support, a conundrum that has stumped professional commentators as well as all those who don't feel compelled to vote for him. It reveals the motive behind his weird handshakes, why he speaks in such a strange way and even what drives him to keep the area around his eyes so pale. Whether he was trained or is a natural, Trump uses hypnosis techniques to get his message deep into people's minds - and he is not the only professional persuader using such tricks either.

Trump's aim is to achieve unthinking compliance and he does that by using hypnotic confusion techniques which enable him to embed suggestions into his subjects' unconscious minds. He achieves this with individuals as well as with the crowds he addresses. A central part of hypnosis practice is artful suggestion. Donald Trump is a master of the craft. He can imply what he wants to happen without needing to make his commands clear.

As a child, like all of us, he absorbed suggestions from his grandfather and parents. The impact of repeatedly being told when young that he was a 'king' and a 'killer' is evident in his adult behaviour. Positive Thinking is a keystone of Trump's self-regard, learning it from the leading exponent, Norman Vincent Peale. who told him he would be 'America's greatest builder'. He also learnt hypnosis, probably when it was fashionable as NLP and he was keen to clinch real estate deals.

Hypnotherapists will lie or exaggerate to achieve the aims of their clients. This is ethical if the aim is to help a person give up an addiction or achieve a sense of well-being. Trump and other politicians also recognise that the truth is less important than emotions if they want to convince someone. Their objectives however are not therapeutic.

People are often afraid of hypnosis, but they cannot be left ignorant any longer. It's a natural part of being human; we all go into a trance regularly, when watching TV or doing repetitive tasks. Used well, hypnosis is a force for good. It is also a powerful tool to gain control over others. Some politicians, including those on the far-right, are using hypnosis to sway public opinion. If an argument is going against them, they will use misdirection and exaggeration to divert attention from opposing views. Trump and others who imitate him are experts at using hypnotic confusion to cloud the truth.

We must acknowledge the power of hypnosis and make everyone aware of how it works. Readers will learn to spot when someone is trying to manipulate them subliminally and how to defend themselves from it. The book describes how to use hypnotic trance to help yourself, to relax, become acquainted with your unconscious wisdom and make sure your opinions are your own.

Lisa Morgan identified what Trump was doing early in his presidency and felt compelled to expose it.
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In reply to concordtom • 5:42a, 11/16/25
concordtom said:
sycasey said:
cal83dls79 said:
Who is taking sides? Nobody here, except the trumpsters apologizing for Trump. Keep trying.. release the damn files so we can move on.
A trumpster started this thread demanding release ….crickets now. Go figure

I find it consistently amusing how much these guys think "but Democrats might be guilty too" is an actual rebuttal. Okay, so what? Let them go down too.

I was talking with my unintelligent friend from 8th grade today about Trump's amorality and I began counting his cheated-upon-3-wives, his known affairs, his confession on Howard Stern to being a "sexual predator", his grab them by the P line….do anything you want…

My friend is a Mormon who was a virgin on his wedding night at 30, and he's only been with 1 woman. Honorable, and unimportant to this post other than to say, - "so you'd think he'd be with me in the amorality line of thinking, right?"

A conditioned "republican", he didn't say, "wow, you're right, he's bad." Instead he said, "Well, Biden was a horrible president", and in his litany of complaints added: Clinton, Monica Lewinsky, Hillary is an ass bag, or some such.

I calmly laughed. "Do you see what you did? We were talking about Trump's womanizing, and you suddenly flipped to 3 other topics and people.
Why can't you just condemn the man on his own merits?"

Maybe some here don't care about body count, or see it as a measure of personal restraint, a character trait that carries over to other aspects of how one will conduct himself, or herself, in other aspects of life. But you'd think that my friend would, right? Given his background?

I mean, if I bolted him down to it, or course he condemns Trump! But the partisanship is SO STRONG that he forgets himself and his value system and instead regurgitates the pre conditioned, pre programmed response!

"But but but…."
It is rehearsed, practiced, put upon the audience nightly, daily.



The mantra is repeated so often the response is Pavlovian.



It IS possible, quite easy, to train people subconsciously! Ever watch a hypnotist do a stage show? Sometimes people in the audience become hypnotized and they didn't even know it. They get brought up on stage.

Or, just ask yourself why ad campaigns are everywhere. Because they work!




They are NOT great!
They are poison!

We humans don't understand why we behave or think the way we do. We live most our lives in the subconscious, yet think we are so evolved!
Yes, we are so evolved that we were able to offload the keys to survival to the subconscious. So that our prefrontal cortex could figure out new things, like how to go to the moon.

It's fascinating!
Trump has figured out how to brainwash everyone he ever did a business deal with! He's a master manipulator, for sure!


I don't care about body count from a politician. I do care about how how a person treats other people and it is hard to imagine somebody getting to a 1,000 person bodycount and treating all of them respectfully. But even if Trump's bodycount is only 20, it is clear he has mistreated women. That is just from his own statements (grab em by the P). He is a disgusting person of dark, negative moral character. Your Mormon friend who supports him has low moral character simply for his support of putting such a person in such a position of power.
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In reply to dajo9 • 7:09a, 11/16/25
My Mormon friend is the product of an abusive racist father, a household of 8 kids who lived in a completely junky house like Sanford and Son. Very dysfunctional. He was in some "remedial" classes in high school and did not receive high grades.

He's an interesting study to me because while he sometimes acts and talks like his father, he also can be the nicest guy imaginable who spreads sunshine wherever he goes. He's a very simply person who works hard and is consistent and honest as you would dream of as an employee.

I've been posting a lot lately about the power of the subconscious - garbage in, garbage out - monkey see, monkey do - and he would be a good example. His initial move on things is knee jerk, patterned. If I get him to slow down, think his way through things, he'll arrive at a different conclusion.

It's interesting to hear you say he's of low moral character because he's probably the highest moral character of anyone I know. He makes a low wage, yet gives stuff away to charities and gifts to others. He cannot tell a lie.

Yet he is programmed in some very poor ways, and I agree with you, it's troubling.

Messages delivered from on high matter. And when the leader is a hate spewing, insult throwing sleazebag cheat, it trickles down.

Trump has been a scourge of darkness upon this nation for 10 years now. I cannot wait for him to be squeezed into juice in a steel press.

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In reply to concordtom • 7:26a, 11/16/25
Yes, JFK was a real slimeball. Did that affect his presidency? Maybe it got Marilyn Minroe taken out, him and Bobbie Kennedy real cads.

Did Barack Obama's alleged dalliance with men and the gay bar scene in Chicago affect his presidency? Probably not. But being groomed by Marxist and alleged pornographer Frank Marshall Davis from the age of 9 or 10 did affect his development and mindset. (Obama mentioned him in his memoir.)

Many men engage in lockerroom talk, and yes, powerful men have lots of sexual options. Children are another barometer. President Trump has wonderful, accomplished children, successful careers, families. Then we have crackhead Biden. I hope the Obama girls turn out well.

Lying and embellishing are two different things. The closed border and deportations will help millions of people, like your friend, who have to unfairly compete with 30 - 50 million illegal immigrants. Hopefully the new vetting of SNAP benefits will also root out decades of fraud and abuse.
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In reply to movielover • 7:37a, 11/16/25
movielover said:
Yes, JFK was a real slimeball. Did that affect his presidency? Maybe it got Marilyn Minroe taken out, him and Bobbie Kennedy real cads.

Did Barack Obama's alleged dalliance with men and the gay bar scene in Chicago affect his presidency? Probably not. But being groomed by Marxist and alleged pornographer Frank Marshall Davis from the age of 9 or 10 did affect his development and mindset. (Obama mentioned him in his memoir.)

Many men engage in lockerroom talk, and yes, powerful men have lots of sexual options. Children are another barometer. President Trump has wonderful, accomplished children, successful careers, families. Then we have crackhead Biden. I hope the Obama girls turn out well.


You see, I have you on ignore because you say so many things that are just so u true, so far reaching, there is little to reason with.

But I'll try, this time.
The compare to JFK is a good one. Yes, he slept around. And yes, he was generally a source for goodness! We can be pleased with where his aim was.

Obama gay bar scene? OMG, w.t.h are you talking about? Made up homophobic nonsense. And citing "Marxist" in your prose also is weird.

You said: "President Trump has wonderful, accomplished children, successful careers, families."

No. Not true.
Ivana took the money and ran.
Jr and Eric are as nasty mouthed as their father. I wouldn't trust them with a ten foot pole.

You said "crackhead Biden".
Again, a lie, untrue.
His son is the crack user. You lose any semblance of credibility when you just toss about nonsense.
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