concordtom said:
Okay guys, since you're spending so much time going player by player, and since you've seen new players…
Here's your chance to give me you dream starting 11 for a WC final right now, with the permitted 5 subs in the wings.
Then you get to list a dream 2028 WC final (I won't go 4 years out because any of us can imagine that someone turns into Pele). Be realistic - and I'm curious to see who gets dropped.
I looked at sluggo's answers and they are intriguing. He has at least one out-of-the-box idea with Weston Mckennie at left back, since we have an overabundance of offensive midfielders and are thinner (to varying degrees) at other positions. I don't know if I'd force Mckennie to make a sudden position switch if there was a WC final tomorrow, but maybe given a longer runway.
I got my own slightly out-of-the-box idea below with re-positioning Justin Ellis, but it's not an original idea.
Here's my slightly differently formatted list for a WC final RIGHT NOW, meaning for example that Ricardo Pepi is injured. I'm assuming a 25-man roster. Listing their current clubs. Some backups are starters at other positions. Assuming a 4-2-3-1 offensive formation (Poch often has them shift the formation on the fly when we defend to a 4-4-2 or something like that).
Goalkeeper:
1. Diego Kochen (20yo), Lyngby - Danish League
2. Brian Schwake (25yo), Nashville - MLS
3. Matt Freese (28yo), NYCFC - MLS
Left Back:
1. Antonee"Jedi" Robinson (29yo), Fulham - English Premier League
2. Peyton Miller (18yo), New England Revolution, MLS, can also provide depth at left attacking midfield.
3. Sergino Dest (25yo) (also backup right back and attacking mid/wing), PSV - Dutch Eredivisie
Left Center Back:
1. Auston Trusty (28yo), Celtic, Scottish Premier League
2. Chris Richards (26yo) (starting RCB), Crystal Palace - English Premier League
3. George Campbell (25yo) (also backup RCB), West Brom - English Championship (2nd) League
Right Center Back:
1. Chris Richards (26yo), Crystal Palace - English Premier League
2. Neil Pierre (18yo) - starts at RCB if Trusty is out at LCB, with Richards sliding to LCB. Philadelphia Union, MLS
3. Alex Freeman (22yo) - (starting RB), Villareal - Spanish La Liga
4. George Campbell (25yo) (also backup LCB), West Brom - English Championship (2nd) League
Right Back:
1. Alex Freeman (22yo), Villareal - Spanish La Liga
2. Tim Weah (26yo) - can also provide depth at right attacking midfield, Marseille - French Ligue 1
3. Sergino Dest (25yo) (also backup left back and right attacking mid/wing), PSV - Dutch Eredivisie
Holding Midfielder Defensive "6" Position:
1. Tyler Adams (27yo), Bournemouth - English Premier League
2. Johnny Cardoso (25yo) (also backup "8" Holding Midfielder), Atletico Madrid - Spanish La Liga
3. Adri Mehmeti (17yo), Red Bull New York, MLS
Holding Midfielder Box-to-Box "8":
1. Malik Tillman (24yo) (abundance of attacking midfielders made Poch play Tillman here in the '26 WC), Bayer Leverkusen - German Bundesliga
2. Johnny Cardoso (25yo) (also backup "6" Holding Midfielder), Atletico Madrid - Spanish La Liga
3. Yunus Musah (23yo), AC Milan - Italian Serie A
Left Attacking Midfielder/Wing:
1. Christian Pulisic (28yo), AC Milan - Italian Serie A
2. Malik Tillman (24yo) (also starting Holding Mid "8"), Bayer Leverkusen - German Bundesliga
3. Brendan Aaronson (25yo), Leeds United - English Premier League
Center Attacking Midfielder "10":
1. Gio Reyna (23yo), Strasbough - French Ligue 1
2. Weston Mckennie (28yo) (also backup right mid), Juventus - Italian Serie A
3. Justin Ellis (19yo) (also backup right mid), Orlando City - MLS
Right Attacking Midfielder/Wing:
1. Cavan Sullivan (17yo), Philadelphia Union - MLS
2. Weston Mckennie (28yo) (also backup center mid), Juventus - Italian Serie A
3. Justin Ellis (19yo) (also backup center mid), Orlando City - MLS
4. Sergino Dest (25yo) (also backup left or right back), PSV - Dutch Eredivisie
Center Forward/Striker "9":
1. Folarin Balogun (25yo), Monaco - French Ligue 1
2A. Justin Ellis (19yo) (also backup midfielder, only striker if we play a "false 9"), Orlando City - MLS
2B. Julian Hall (18yo) (closer to a like-for-like true "9"), Red Bull New York - MLS
Starting 11 are all the #1s above. 5 subs, assuming no injuries to rarely-subbed positions like Goalie and Center Back:
A. Weston Mckennie for Gio Reyna (crazy to think of Mckennie as a sub, but great to bring someone like that for the last third of the match if the other subs are young)
B. Johnny Cardoso at the "8" (moving Tillman to left attacking mid and subbing out Pulisic)
C. Justin Ellis at Striker for Balogun (or Hall if we really need a proper "9"), but then Ellis for Sullivan at right wing.
D. Peyton Miller for Antonee "Jedi" Robinson at LB
E. Maybe Sergino Dest for Cavan Sullivan at right wing if we've subbed Ellis at striker and not here.
By 2028, I hope there are several changes to the above lineup, such as:
Goalkeeper: Kochen still the starter, but we find better backups than Schwake and Freese. Or maybe someone better than Kochen. Come on down Brandon Taishi Nozawa (23yo) Japanese/US dual nat who has so far given no indication he wants to play for the US but is still not cap-tied to Japan, and is behind elite 24yo Japanese starting goalie Suzuki. Nozawa probably starts for us if he does sign a 1-time transfer to the US.
Center Back: Then 20yo Neil Pierre assumes the starting RCB spot, sliding Richards to LCB and Auston Trusty to the bench.
Left Back: We find a viable replacement for the aging Antonee "Jedi" Robinson... maybe it's Peyton Miller, but that is iffy. Miller has great speed and quickness, but probably not the skills to be a left wing as he plays for New England, and may or may not be a good enough defender to be left back, though it seems his natural position. Maybe sluggo's Mckennie at LB gambit is the way to go, but I won't steal his idea.
Right Back: somebody emerges to back up Freeman (who is awesome). Big gap sluggo and I were talking about at both left and right back, with Antonee Robinson fading with age. Weah and Dest are not great defenders (and lately, not great on offense either).
Holding Mid: Then 19yo Adri Mehmeti assumes the starting "6" spot, and perhaps Johnny Cardoso assumes the starting "8" spot, allowing Tillman to move back to attacking Mid to provide us great depth there. I know sluggo desperately wants Adams out of the starting lineup, so this would help that happen. And it is in deference to him that I put Musah as the #3 "8" instead of Berhalter, though I was not impressed with Musah this camp. 25yo Tanner Tessmann of Lyon in Ligue 1 might be another consideration at holding mid.
Attacking mids: main change I predict/hope for the above lineup would be then 19yo Mathis Albert taking the place of Brendan Aaronson as a sub at left attacking mid. I guess maybe then 21yo Zavier Gozo might become an option at right wing as sluggo suggests, or even backup right back behind Freeman, but Gozo just has not impressed me as anything more than a fast, above average MLS-level player since I've been watching him, and he seems to have regressed since transferring to Crystal Palace recently, where they don't even play him in their lowly Europa League matches, let alone in Premier League or EFL Cup matches.
Keep in mid though that the resulting 2028 lineup would be for a WC final. It would NOT be the Olympic lineup, since the Olympics are a U-23 tournament with only 18 roster spots (may go up by a few for 2028, or not, but won't be 25 roster spots anyway) and max 3 over-age players.
Also in the summer of 2028, the Olympics will likely coincide/overlap with the third best soccer tournament in the world behind the WC and the Euro Cup - Copa America for South America, which routinely invites the US, Mexico, Canada and other countries around the world to fill out 24 spots. Clubs are obligated to release players to go to the Copa America, but not the Olympics, and it may be tough to ask players to play in both anyway, depending on schedule. So we might or might not see the best U-23 players, or the best 3 over-age players (often those 3 are borderline senior team players). So in the Olympics, we might see young U-23 players who are just below USMNT senior team level, like some of the ones we saw in this camp: Brooklyn Raines, Zavier Gozo, Cole Campbell, even Frankie Westfield.