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In reply to Unit2Sucks • 5:36p, 11/27/19
Unit2Sucks said:
I would like to hear a religious Christian weigh in on the theory that Trump is chosen.

On the one hand I see the argument that god is all-knowing and of course controls everything that happens but that reduces the argument to absurdity.

No one argues that god chose Obama. No one argues that murderers should be free from prosecution because god chose them to murder. I haven't even heard anyone defend the Catholic Church by claiming that god chose them to sexually assault thousands of children.

So I guess my question is, ok so even assuming god chose Trump, how does that change anything?

But would still be interested in hearing what practicing Christians believe.


tRump meets all the requirements to be the Antichrist.



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In reply to Anarchistbear • 5:38p, 11/27/19
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There is no God.


No one can prove that one way or the other. I suggest you hedge your bets and lead your life accordingly....and at a minimum...




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In reply to bearister • 5:50p, 11/27/19
bearister said:
Anarchistbear said:
There is no God.


No one can prove that one way or the other. I suggest you hedge your bets and lead your life accordingly....and at a minimum...




Get real.. live my life according to what..mythology I don't believe in- hedge my bets by going whoring Saturday night and on my knees Sunday morning. The idea that a moral life is a religious life has a lot of empirical and historical opposition.

Clapton is a Brit wanker- godless as the day is long. Hendrix and Muddy Waters shook God's right hand
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In reply to Anarchistbear • 5:55p, 11/27/19
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Clapton is a Brit wanker..


Well, you got me there.

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In reply to Anarchistbear • 7:19p, 11/27/19
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bearister said:
Anarchistbear said:
There is no God.


No one can prove that one way or the other. I suggest you hedge your bets and lead your life accordingly....and at a minimum...




Get real.. live my life according to what..mythology I don't believe in- hedge my bets by going whoring Saturday night and on my knees Sunday morning. The idea that a moral life is a religious life has a lot of empirical and historical opposition.

Clapton is a Brit wanker- godless as the day is long. Hendrix and Muddy Waters shook God's right hand
This guy studies the masters, writes his own music, covers OK and, some say, is getting closer to God
one day at a time




If you believe in forever
Then life is just a one-night stand
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In reply to calbearinamaze • 8:17a, 11/28/19
bearup said:
Anarchistbear said:
bearister said:
Anarchistbear said:
There is no God.


No one can prove that one way or the other. I suggest you hedge your bets and lead your life accordingly....and at a minimum...




Get real.. live my life according to what..mythology I don't believe in- hedge my bets by going whoring Saturday night and on my knees Sunday morning. The idea that a moral life is a religious life has a lot of empirical and historical opposition.

Clapton is a Brit wanker- godless as the day is long. Hendrix and Muddy Waters shook God's right hand
This guy studies the masters, writes his own music, covers OK and, some say, is getting closer to God
one day at a time






He's a good interpreter of the Devil's own music.
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In reply to Anarchistbear • 8:23a, 11/28/19
Anarchistbear said:
bearup said:
Anarchistbear said:
bearister said:
Anarchistbear said:
There is no God.


No one can prove that one way or the other. I suggest you hedge your bets and lead your life accordingly....and at a minimum...




Get real.. live my life according to what..mythology I don't believe in- hedge my bets by going whoring Saturday night and on my knees Sunday morning. The idea that a moral life is a religious life has a lot of empirical and historical opposition.

Clapton is a Brit wanker- godless as the day is long. Hendrix and Muddy Waters shook God's right hand
This guy studies the masters, writes his own music, covers OK and, some say, is getting closer to God
one day at a time




He's a good interpreter of the Devil's own music.
Is that good or bad????????

BTW: there's a CAL reference in the COME TOGETHER video. It's a "degrees of Kevin Bacon" kind of thing,
but it's there.
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2:25p, 12/1/19
Trump's Intervention in SEALs Case Tests Pentagon's Tolerance - The New York Times


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/30/us/politics/trump-seals-eddie-gallagher.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/30/us/politics/trump-seals-eddie-gallagher.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share



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In reply to B.A. Bearacus • 10:31p, 12/2/19
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Cambridge Five - Wikipedia


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge_Five


Now it's the Mar a Lago 5
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In reply to B.A. Bearacus • 6:02a, 12/3/19
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...and who better to be armed with that power than a thrice-married, porn star- and Playmate-paying, p@ussy-grabbing, customer-defrauding, disability-mocking, race-baiting, Nazi-sympathising, oft-bankrupt, impeachment-threatened president (Martin Pengelly, The Guardian).
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In reply to B.A. Bearacus • 9:04a, 12/3/19
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It's amazing who in the Trump zeitgeist is accountable and who is not accountable and for what actions people need to be held to account.

Not to go Biblical, but this is an ugly, violent Old Testament morality (generously) built entirely on loyalty, hierarchy, and power. It is the code of Omerta, organizationally mafia, and in no uncertain terms anti-democratic and unapologetically authoritarian.

This is what the good flag-waving New Testament Christians have begat, a president as oppositional to Jesus' teachings as the Pharisees: the man doomed to destruction who exalts himself over everything God... (Thessalonians paraphrase).


Long but interesting read on the perversion of Christian morality : The Fool King

"The propaganda heist of the century is underway. Fox News has been hammering away for decades. The kayfabe of wrestling and Reality Television merged entertainment and politics. A quarter of America is LARPing 24 hours a day, and doesn't seem to realize it."
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9:44a, 12/3/19
Does Albany Law School (ranked #115) have a Legal Scholar program?

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In reply to Anarchistbear • 1:04a, 12/4/19
Anarchistbear said:
There is no God.


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3:20p, 12/4/19
The president Evangelicals think God gave them to make America more Christian.

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In reply to B.A. Bearacus • 4:34p, 12/4/19
B.A. Bearacus said:
The president Evangelicals think God gave them to make America more Christian.



I'm sure Jarvanka said, "Let them eat cake."*


*I have always found it amusing that many Conservatives obsess over what they perceive to be the swindling of public funds by those at the bottom of the food chain but they are blind to the BIG TIME gaming of the system by those at the top. The gravy sucked out of the system by those on top exponentially dwarfs the crumbs gathered from the floor by those at the bottom.
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In reply to bearister • 4:45p, 12/4/19
bearister said:
B.A. Bearacus said:
The president Evangelicals think God gave them to make America more Christian.



I'm sure Jarvanka said, "Let them eat cake."*


*I have always found it amusing that many Conservatives obsess over what they perceive to be the swindling of public funds by those at the bottom of the food chain but they are blind to the BIG TIME gaming of the system by those at the top. The gravy sucked out of the system by those on top exponentially dwarfs the crumbs gathered from the floor by those at the bottom.


Yeahbut - poor people are so icky and rich people are so cool!
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
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6:16p, 12/4/19
My favorite minute of Biden since he announced he was going to run.

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6:23p, 12/4/19
Maybe Biden isn't much smarter than tRump but I trust him not to be so corrupt as to hire foxes to guard the henhouse.

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6:41p, 12/4/19
I think tRump has gotten to the point where he is parodying himself.

Donald Trump claims he got 'deep respect' from NATO leaders



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In reply to B.A. Bearacus • 7:03p, 12/4/19
Not just ill-informed, but also ignorant.
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In reply to B.A. Bearacus • 12:55a, 12/6/19
B.A. Bearacus said:
"I don't hate anyone."

Untrue. She hates progressives.
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In reply to B.A. Bearacus • 8:04p, 12/7/19
B.A. Bearacus said:
But at least he never wore a tan suit
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In reply to Yogi14 • 8:36p, 12/7/19
Professor Turgeson Bear said:
B.A. Bearacus said:
"I don't hate anyone."

Untrue. She hates progressives.
Just because you disagree with someone, and don't acquiesce to a minority faction does not mean you hate them.
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In reply to golden sloth • 9:13p, 12/7/19
golden sloth said:
Professor Turgeson Bear said:
B.A. Bearacus said:
"I don't hate anyone."

Untrue. She hates progressives.
Just because you disagree with someone, and don't acquiesce to a minority faction does not mean you hate them.

I'm sure that someone who keeps getting elected in a district in San Francisco really hates progressives.
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10:29p, 12/8/19
On the GOP's relationship with objective truth and the labeling of MSM as biased against them...


Conservative think-tanks arose from the expectation that conservative ideas deserve the same weight as objective facts. When that didn't happen, conservatives cried "liberal bias" and went off & created their own echo-chambers, with think-tanks as the foundation. 2/

Conservative think-tanks exist to produce ideologically-driven "research" and partisan "knowledge". When the media did not give this "knowledge" the same weight as objective facts, conservatives created their own sources of media to disseminate this partisan information. 3/

Conservatives used this to create the narrative that the mainstream media is corrupted by "liberal bias" -- simply because mainstream media refused to treat partisan information as if it carried the same weight as objective facts. 4/

In doing so, they not only undermined public trust in shared sources of knowledge -- they poisoned our political process by making it impossible to even agree upon a shared set of facts. How can you debate an issue if one side won't even acknowledge that objective facts exist? 5/

Fox News is the vehicle for this partisan information, and they've contributed to the problem far more than any other right-wing media outlet. But ultimately, this is about more than Fox News -- it's about an asymmetric relationship with knowledge producing institutions. 6/

Fox News is successful because of a 50+ year campaign promoting ideological rigidity, hyperpartisanship, & disregard for objective truths as core conservative values. There now exists an entire ecosystem to produce, disseminate, and promote right-wing propaganda as "facts". 7/

And yes, there are left-leaning think tanks and media outlets. But there's nothing comparable to the conservative ecosystem. They literally created an alternative knowledge-producing mechanism & media infrastructure because mainstream media was too objective. 8/
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10:10p, 12/9/19
How To Talk Trump - The Atlantic


https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/03/how-to-talk-trump/550934/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/550934/
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In reply to bearister • 10:21p, 12/9/19
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How To Talk Trump - The Atlantic


https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/03/how-to-talk-trump/550934/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/550934/
To be honest, this would be a great way to help Republican children learn second to third grade vocabulary and prepare some of them to reach their full god-given potential as bullies.

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