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so many partisan ideologues triggered by an intentionally partisan post (to mirror the competing partisan posts that make up a majority of the board but are viewed as just perfectly centered and unbiased people pontificating about politics and news).

But more power to keeping this at the top of the board now

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Well, you know, Trump said he'd like to see a Civil War. And he has typically gotten everything he wants in life, right down to the *****grabbing!

You want it, you got it.

Your word salad is ......

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When did so many Democrats become so weak and stupid

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FIFY. Don't blame Americans, blame the left.

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I would like to know who the morons are that are starring bearlyamazing's comments

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Three guesses.

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Kelly9
Gb4L
Oski007

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dajo9 said:

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When did so many Americans become so weak and stupid

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That's the most concerning thing.

We have so many stupid people in this country that make a guy like Trump possible that it could happen again. And again. And again.

Those of us that have moral compasses have got to stay vigilant to keep these stupid mother****ers from running everything off the rails again.

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When they listened to MEATLOAF!

Professor Turgeson Bear said:

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dajo9 said:

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When did so many Americans become so weak and stupid

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That's the most concerning thing.

We have so many stupid people in this country that make a guy like Trump possible that it could happen again. And again. And again.

Those of us that have moral compasses have got to stay vigilant to keep these stupid mother****ers from running everything off the rails again.

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You are so classy, ML.

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Professor Turgeson Bear said:

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dajo9 said:

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When did so many Americans become so weak and stupid

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That's the most concerning thing.

We have so many stupid people in this country that make a guy like Trump possible that it could happen again. And again. And again.

Those of us that have moral compasses have got to stay vigilant to keep these stupid mother****ers from running everything off the rails again.

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You are so classy, ML.

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K*****9. You can get seriously addicted to meatloaf. I know a really versatile chief who'd be glad to
make you special pizzas, bagels and lox, etc.

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kelly09 said:

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Professor Turgeson Bear said:

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dajo9 said:

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When did so many Americans become so weak and stupid

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That's the most concerning thing.

We have so many stupid people in this country that make a guy like Trump possible that it could happen again. And again. And again.

Those of us that have moral compasses have got to stay vigilant to keep these stupid mother****ers from running everything off the rails again.

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You are so classy, ML.

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K*****9. You can get seriously addicted to meatloaf. I know a really versatile chief who'd be glad to
make you special pizzas, bagels and lox, etc.

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I'll bet you do.

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Professor Turgeson Bear said:

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dajo9 said:

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When did so many Americans become so weak and stupid

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That's the most concerning thing.

We have so many stupid people in this country that make a guy like Trump possible that it could happen again. And again. And again.

Those of us that have moral compasses have got to stay vigilant to keep these stupid mother****ers from running everything off the rails again.

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When they listened to MEATLOAF!

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MEATLOAF indeed. This one sounds like it's right up your alley: revenge MEATLOAF.




https://www.advocate.com/people/2019/11/25/gay-man-exacts-revenge-homophobic-mom-revealing-meatloaf-recipe

p.s. the GOP going to the penitentiary, or there already: Roger Stone, Manafort, Nunes, Mulvaney...they'll have prison meatloaf and tossed salad for dessert! Eat up conservatives, just the way you like it!

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kelly09 said:

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dajo9 said:

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When did so many Americans become so weak and stupid

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That's the most concerning thing.

We have so many stupid people in this country that make a guy like Trump possible that it could happen again. And again. And again.

Those of us that have moral compasses have got to stay vigilant to keep these stupid mother****ers from running everything off the rails again.

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When they listened to MEATLOAF!

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MEATLOAF indeed. This one sounds like it's right up your alley: revenge MEATLOAF.




https://www.advocate.com/people/2019/11/25/gay-man-exacts-revenge-homophobic-mom-revealing-meatloaf-recipe

p.s. the GOP going to the penitentiary, or there already: Roger Stone, Manafort, Nunes, Mulvaney...they'll have prison meatloaf and tossed salad for dessert! Eat up conservatives, just the way you like it!

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I'm sorry, are you really using homosexuality as an insult again? That seems to be your default form of insult, whether it is suggesting that Putin and Trump are gay lovers or suggesting that someone is gay and therefore deserves to be mocked.

And your progressive friends here think that's OK because you are one of them?

As a straight, Christian male, I think you need to stop with your trite, homophobic tendencies. How about we just decide that we can disagree on what is best for this country without insulting and dehumanizing a whole group of people based on whether they were born as white, black, Asian, gay or hetrosexual? Is that OK with you?

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You don't have to take my word for it. The corruption is being slowly unraveled with actual investigative documentation that will be coming out in the coming months that no one will be able to talk and obfuscate their way around. Oh, you and they will try but it won't work this time.

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Will this be one of the sections of this coming bombshell report? Is this "actual" investigation or is this fake? Once Barr doctors it or calls it into question will it THEN become real?

No evidence

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You don't have to take my word for it. The corruption is being slowly unraveled with actual investigative documentation that will be coming out in the coming months that no one will be able to talk and obfuscate their way around. Oh, you and they will try but it won't work this time.

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Will this be one of the sections of this coming bombshell report? Is this "actual" investigation or is this fake? One Barr doctors it or calls it into question will it THEN become real?

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Every investigation is fake until it says what the right wing already knows to be true. At that point every other investigation done prior to or after will be no longer credible.

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You don't have to take my word for it. The corruption is being slowly unraveled with actual investigative documentation that will be coming out in the coming months that no one will be able to talk and obfuscate their way around. Oh, you and they will try but it won't work this time.

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Will this be one of the sections of this coming bombshell report? Is this "actual" investigation or is this fake? Once Barr doctors it or calls it into question will it THEN become real?

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Wishful thinking on the part of the leftist WaPo. Zero chance Durham finds, as WaPo's headline reads: "Barr's handpicked prosecutor tells inspector general he can't back right-wing theory that Russia case was U.S. intelligence setup."

The story also said this:

"The draft, though, is not final. The inspector general has yet to release any conclusions, and The Washington Post has not reviewed Horowitz's entire report, even in draft form. It is also unclear whether Durham has shared the entirety of his findings and evidence with the inspector general or merely answered a specific question."


Tell me the truth: You and all the other tin foil hat accusers don't even know most of the players in this story beyond Papadapoulos and Page, do you? Mifsud? Halper? Azra Turk? Glenn Simpson? Svetlana Lokhova? Olga Veselnetskaya? Brennan's role and how he got the whole thing started with his briefings with Obama and retired senator Harry Reid? How the Comey meeting with Trump talking only about the "salacious details" like the golden showers crap and nothing else was used as a predicate for BuzzFeed to release the sham dossier, etc? These are all open facts and players, not denied by even the democrats. The rest of the details are in dispute but it's all unraveling for the dirty players, day by day. And unless you've followed the case in detail, either from the left's side, the right, or both, casting lame aspersions with tin foil hat memes is beyond lame and intellectually dishonest.

The Horowitz Report probably won't be a big deal. It will likely point to wrongdoing, as his earlier report did that recommended Comey for prosecution for his leak. But it will probably be inconclusive on if there was an adequate predication for the FBI investigation, largely because the scope of an IG inquiry is limited in a way that Durham's and Barr's isn't. That's the nature of IG reports. They can't investigate the CIA, either, and Brennan's role is central to this whole setup sham.

Rest assured, Barr and Durham won't leave out the CIA's role. And the accusation of Barr "doctoring" results is laughable. He'd spend the rest of his life in prison if he tried to pull that nonsense.

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Wishful thinking on the part of the leftist WaPo. Zero chance Durham finds, as WaPo's headline reads: "Barr's handpicked prosecutor tells inspector general he can't back right-wing theory that Russia case was U.S. intelligence setup."

The story also said this:

"The draft, though, is not final. The inspector general has yet to release any conclusions, and The Washington Post has not reviewed Horowitz's entire report, even in draft form. It is also unclear whether Durham has shared the entirety of his findings and evidence with the inspector general or merely answered a specific question."


Tell me the truth: You and all the other tin foil hat accusers don't even know most of the players in this story beyond Papadapoulos and Page, do you? Mifsud? Halper? Azra Turk? Glenn Simpson? Svetlana Lokhova? Olga Veselnetskaya? Brennan's role and how he got the whole thing started with his briefings with Obama and retired senator Harry Reid? How the Comey meeting with Trump talking only about the "salacious details" like the golden showers crap and nothing else was used as a predicate for BuzzFeed to release the sham dossier, etc? These are all open facts and players, not denied by even the democrats. The rest of the details are in dispute but it's all unraveling for the dirty players, day by day. And unless you've followed the case in detail, either from the left's side, the right, or both, casting lame aspersions with tin foil hat memes is beyond lame and intellectually dishonest.

The Horowitz Report probably won't be a big deal. It will likely point to wrongdoing, as his earlier report did that recommended Comey for prosecution for his leak. But it will probably be inconclusive on if there was an adequate predication for the FBI investigation, largely because the scope of an IG inquiry is limited in a way that Durham's and Barr's isn't. That's the nature of IG reports. They can't investigate the CIA, either, and Brennan's role is central to this whole setup sham.

Rest assured, Barr and Durham won't leave out the CIA's role. And the accusation of Barr "doctoring" results is laughable. He'd spend the rest of his life in prison if he tried to pull that nonsense.

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What you are describing sounds like a phony corrupt witch hunt fake news hoax. NO COLLUSION!! NO CORRUPTION!! Unless and until people are convicted of actual crimes, this is all just a partisan attempt to smear the other side.

This has been the response by people like you to every single allegation of wrongdoing against Trump or his cronies. Yet, as I type this, Roger Stone, Paul Manafort, Rick Gates and Michael Cohen all sit convicted of federal felonies. Trump buddies like Duncan Hunter and Chris Collins have also both plead guilty to federal crimes. There have been dozens of allegations of wrongdoing by Trump and his cronies for years and not one single person has even been indicted of wrongdoing, let alone convicted.

Projection is one of Trump's great specialties. He called legitimate inquiries against him witch hunts, and launched witch hunts of his own against anyone he could in a flagrant abuse of power. You should be ashamed of yourself for supporting this nonsense.

Perhaps some day a new cult leader will convince republicans like you to understand the truth about Trump and you will sing a new tune. Until then, thanks for the entertainment.

They've thrown the full weight of the deep state at Trump for going on four years now. Do you think for a second that he wouldn't have been busted long ago after he and anyone in his political orbit were illegally wiretapped for a year with illegal FISA apps and illegally surveiled by the NSA for a year before than before Gen Flynn blew the whistle and became persona non grata in the Obama administration and his flunkies in the state department, CIA and FBI?

The people you listed related to his administration were busted for process crimes, designed to try and get them to make up dirt on Trump, not crimes related to the Trump administration colluding with Russia. And it didn't work because they're not going to commit serious felonies lying about the president. Flynn for one will probably have his conviction reversed.

Meanwhile your candidate Hillary broke all kinds of felony federal statutes, busts up subpoenaed cell phones with hammers and BleachBitted laptops and computers and just skates, with no legal troubles? No double standard there! They even refused to turn over DNC computers and emails to the FBI after alleging Russian hacks and instead had lefty hack tech company CrowdStrike do the "investigation?" Come on, man. What garbage you holier than thou hypocrites align yourselves with.

Your candidate? Hmm lol

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They've thrown the full weight of the deep state at Trump for going on four years now. Do you think for a second that he wouldn't have been busted long ago after he and anyone in his political orbit were illegally wiretapped for a year with illegal FISA apps and illegally surveiled by the NSA for a year before than before Gen Flynn blew the whistle and became persona non grata in the Obama administration and his flunkies in the state department, CIA and FBI?

The people you listed related to his administration were busted for process crimes, designed to try and get them to make up dirt on Trump, not crimes related to the Trump administration colluding with Russia. And it didn't work because they're not going to commit serious felonies lying about the president. Flynn for one will probably have his conviction reversed.

Meanwhile your candidate Hillary broke all kinds of felony federal statutes, busts up subpoenaed cell phones with hammers and BleachBitted laptops and computers and just skates, with no legal troubles? No double standard there! They even refused to turn over DNC computers and emails to the FBI after alleging Russian hacks and instead had lefty hack tech company CrowdStrike do the "investigation?" Come on, man. What garbage you holier than thou hypocrites align yourselves with.

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There is no deep state. Anyone who believes there is a deep state is wrong. Unfortunately there is no way to convince them otherwise. I am part angry at them for believing such an obvious lie and part sad for them for needing to believe the bs.

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They've thrown the full weight of the deep state at Trump for going on four years now. Do you think for a second that he wouldn't have been busted long ago after he and anyone in his political orbit were illegally wiretapped for a year with illegal FISA apps and illegally surveiled by the NSA for a year before than before Gen Flynn blew the whistle and became persona non grata in the Obama administration and his flunkies in the state department, CIA and FBI?

The people you listed related to his administration were busted for process crimes, designed to try and get them to make up dirt on Trump, not crimes related to the Trump administration colluding with Russia. And it didn't work because they're not going to commit serious felonies lying about the president. Flynn for one will probably have his conviction reversed.

Meanwhile your candidate Hillary broke all kinds of felony federal statutes, busts up subpoenaed cell phones with hammers and BleachBitted laptops and computers and just skates, with no legal troubles? No double standard there! They even refused to turn over DNC computers and emails to the FBI after alleging Russian hacks and instead had lefty hack tech company CrowdStrike do the "investigation?" Come on, man. What garbage you holier than thou hypocrites align yourselves with.

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There is no deep state. Anyone who believes there is a deep state is wrong.

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Only someone captured by the deep state would say such a thing. This proves you are one of them.

Deep state = new term for the corrupt US federal government

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The people you listed related to his administration were busted for process crimes, designed to try and get them to make up dirt on Trump, not crimes related to the Trump administration colluding with Russia.

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This is wrong on the face of it, because of one name: Paul Manafort. He was convicted of fraud and money laundering, which are not "process crimes."

The problem with these nutty conspiracy theories- Trump and Putin conspired to steal the election; the CIA and FBI set up Trump- besides being generally debunked-is that it assumes a level of competence and cunning only found in the movies. Instead what we have is a cast of grifters, con men and apparatchiks. who- in the government's case- certainly abused their powers but who were blatantly incompetent and dedicated only to saving their political a$$es. Comey, McCabe, Brennan, Clapper- all are deserving of derision and scorn but they had much easier ways to discredit Trump than a worldwide plot and most of them used those ways and still are using them every night on MSNBC

What am I?

A russian fancy bears agent or a deep state actor.

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You and all the other tin foil hat accusers...

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Wait, I'm the one wearing the tin hat? Oh man, when one is in a cult I know that it is the outside world that seems crazy, but one of us references sworn testimony and demonstrable court supported fact and the other is quoting convoluted conjecture by obscure highly biased sources.

Can you pause for just a moment and see that difference?

Are you able to consider that you might be trapped in an ideology and the influence of powerful propaganda? I don't say this to be mean, but I highly suggest (and I think the majority on this board would say the same) that you step back and gain some perspective. Get out from under poisonous influences.

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They've thrown the full weight of the deep state at Trump for going on four years now. Do you think for a second that he wouldn't have been busted long ago after he and anyone in his political orbit were illegally wiretapped for a year with illegal FISA apps and illegally surveiled by the NSA for a year before than before Gen Flynn blew the whistle and became persona non grata in the Obama administration and his flunkies in the state department, CIA and FBI?

The people you listed related to his administration were busted for process crimes, designed to try and get them to make up dirt on Trump, not crimes related to the Trump administration colluding with Russia. And it didn't work because they're not going to commit serious felonies lying about the president. Flynn for one will probably have his conviction reversed.

Meanwhile your candidate Hillary broke all kinds of felony federal statutes, busts up subpoenaed cell phones with hammers and BleachBitted laptops and computers and just skates, with no legal troubles? No double standard there! They even refused to turn over DNC computers and emails to the FBI after alleging Russian hacks and instead had lefty hack tech company CrowdStrike do the "investigation?" Come on, man. What garbage you holier than thou hypocrites align yourselves with.

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There is no deep state. Anyone who believes there is a deep state is wrong. Unfortunately there is no way to convince them otherwise. I am part angry at them for believing such an obvious lie and part sad for them for needing to believe the bs.

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No deep state? You're either a gullible dufus or an outright liar.

Do you expect anyone with a brain to believe there aren't many, many people embedded in the government who are self-proclaimed "resistors," working to undermine the Trump Administration in any way they can? Lots have been fired and the left and them cry every time.

No deep state? Come on, man. Really?

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There is no deep state. Anyone who believes there is a deep state is wrong. Unfortunately there is no way to convince them otherwise. I am part angry at them for believing such an obvious lie and part sad for them for needing to believe the bs.

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Somehow Trump is both in complete control and the greatest president ever, a leader responsible for every "amazing" thing the country does, a triumph who has cleaned the swamp, and he is also a total victim of a Deep State that is out to get him that he can not stop that has ruined the country and we are a total mess and never been worse.

I don't know how else to say it, but when you carry these two thoughts at the same time, and use the languge that Bearlyamazing is using you are in mental health issue territory and I hope he is okay.

The question is can the members of the cult see that they are in a cult and self-extract?


DOUBLETHINK
"The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them....To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one denies all this is indispensably necessary. Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to exercise doublethink. For by using the word one admits that one is tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge; and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the truth."

-- George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four

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No deep state? You're either a gullible dufus or an outright liar.

Do you expect anyone with a brain to believe there aren't many, many people embedded in the government who are self-proclaimed "resistors," working to undermine the Trump Administration in any way they can? Lots have been fired and the left and them cry every time.

No deep state? Come on, man. Really?

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There are people in the government who see him ruining the country and conducting criminal behavior and therefore think he should be reported and stopped. That is not a Deep State. That is honorable patriotism and having a friggin opinion that any decent human being should have.

Absurd that you conflate the two and can't see the difference.

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You and all the other tin foil hat accusers...

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Wait, I'm the one wearing the tin hat? Oh man, when one is in a cult I know that it is the outside world that seems crazy, but one of us references sworn testimony and demonstrable court supported fact and the other is quoting convoluted conjecture by obscure highly biased sources.

Can you pause for just a moment and see that difference?

Are you able to consider that you might be trapped in an ideology and the influence of powerful propaganda? I don't say this to be mean, but I highly suggest (and I think the majority on this board would say the same) that you step back and gain some perspective. Get out from under poisonous influences.

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Reading comprehension, you patronizing whack job. You're accusing everyone who exposes the truth as tin foil hat wearers. I'm not saying you wear one. And despite all the willful ignorance you display here, I know you're smart enough to know the difference between conspiracy whack jobs and people who actually know what they're talking about and back it up. It just doesn't fit your narrative and worldview so you reject it reflexively.

There are always a lot of legit tin foil hat conspiracy theory whack jobs out there. Probably way more on the right than on the left. And I reject them all.

But any time you want to dispute the actual facts I've posted about how this all came together with actual facts of your own, feel free. Cite sources, make your case about how Brennan, Comey, Strzok, Lisa Page, Mifsud, Halper, Simpson, Ohr, Clapper and all their ilk are innocent. But you and the others on the left here are content to sit on the sidelines and presume Trump's guilt without following the case from both sides or really being tuned into it much at all.

I've followed from all sides from the beginning, as anyone should who wants to know the truth. It's nauseating listening to the spin, lies and bias of the mainstream media but I do, so I get the full picture.

It just kills you and your ilk that anywhere here should dare interfere with your echo chamber of nonsense. It's actually pretty funny to peruse the many posts and threads for years here that breathlessly have Trump ready to go down because so many of you gullibly buy the lies of Rachel Madcow and her ilk in the most dishonest, Pravda-like media our country has ever seen.

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They've thrown the full weight of the deep state at Trump for going on four years now. Do you think for a second that he wouldn't have been busted long ago after he and anyone in his political orbit were illegally wiretapped for a year with illegal FISA apps and illegally surveiled by the NSA for a year before than before Gen Flynn blew the whistle and became persona non grata in the Obama administration and his flunkies in the state department, CIA and FBI?

The people you listed related to his administration were busted for process crimes, designed to try and get them to make up dirt on Trump, not crimes related to the Trump administration colluding with Russia. And it didn't work because they're not going to commit serious felonies lying about the president. Flynn for one will probably have his conviction reversed.

Meanwhile your candidate Hillary broke all kinds of felony federal statutes, busts up subpoenaed cell phones with hammers and BleachBitted laptops and computers and just skates, with no legal troubles? No double standard there! They even refused to turn over DNC computers and emails to the FBI after alleging Russian hacks and instead had lefty hack tech company CrowdStrike do the "investigation?" Come on, man. What garbage you holier than thou hypocrites align yourselves with.

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There is no deep state. Anyone who believes there is a deep state is wrong. Unfortunately there is no way to convince them otherwise. I am part angry at them for believing such an obvious lie and part sad for them for needing to believe the bs.

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No deep state? You're either a gullible dufus or an outright liar.

Do you expect anyone with a brain to believe there aren't many, many people embedded in the government who are self-proclaimed "resistors," working to undermine the Trump Administration in any way they can? Lots have been fired and the left and them cry every time.

No deep state? Come on, man. Really?

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There is no deep state. Anyone who believes there is a deep state, is wrong. I dont need to refute you because there is no deep state. I'm sorry you are in a place in your life where you have to believe in one to protect whatever sense of self you have, but there is no deep state.

The FBI and CIA have always acted in ways that were antithetical to US "values"- be it torture, inventing reasons to go to war, political assassinations, spying on Martin Luther King, infiltrating the black Panthers, Cointelpro, red scares, etc.This has always gone on- it doesn't need a special name and this isn't a special time.

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No deep state? You're either a gullible dufus or an outright liar.

Do you expect anyone with a brain to believe there aren't many, many people embedded in the government who are self-proclaimed "resistors," working to undermine the Trump Administration in any way they can? Lots have been fired and the left and them cry every time.

No deep state? Come on, man. Really?

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There are people in the government who see him ruining the country and conducting criminal behavior and therefore think he should be reported and stopped. That is not a Deep State. That is honorable patriotism and having a friggin opinion that any decent human being should have.

Absurd that you conflate the two and can't see the difference.

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Honorable patriotism my *ss, you insufferable sad sack.

Honorable patriots who got pathetically shot down in that pitiful sham of an impeachment hearing? Dupes like you listened to the dishonest clips from all those jokers opening statements and didn't watch the clips from conservative media (since the colluding fake news outlets wouldn't show any testimony that contradicted their breathless lying narrative). Yeah, the clips where every single one of those stooges were forced to admit the truth they conveniently sidestepped in their opening statements.

Do I really have to take the time and look them up for you and post them here? It would only be a waste of time because no one like you would take the time to watch them or actually seek out truth.

Honorable patriots? Lol. And you think I'm the one who needs mental help? I'm worried for you. Really, I am.