OaktownBear said:
bearlyamazing said:
Nice try. The never trumpers like Portman wanted corruption cleaned up, not for the corruption of Burisma and Hunter Biden and our government's involvement to be squelched. But I'm not going to go on a tit for tat with you on all these silly little excuses and obfuscations. Maybe you believe what you're saying is true but I think you're too smart to be suckered into that.
Time will tell which of us is right soon enough.
Sure, when a Republican says anything that might be bad for Trump, he becomes a never Trumper even if he had no reason to know it might be bad for Trump when he said it. Portman has been very supportive of Trump. Here is his press release from February of 2016. He had no way of knowing this press release would get in the way of your conspiracy theory or in any way look bad for Trump whom he didn't know would ever be president.
https://www.portman.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/portman-durbin-shaheen-and-senate-ukraine-caucus-reaffirm-commitment-help
You won't go tit for tat because you are making shyte up and I am citing actual sources. I believe what I'm saying is true because there is documented evidence for that. You have a guy standing on a street pretending to be a reporter for a youtube video. I can do that too.
This just in. Bearlyamazing says "Portman wanted corruption". He also acknowledges OaktownBear's intelligence, saying "I think you're too smart."
Time has told. You will just say this now and move on to some other nutso theory before you have to take responsibility for this one.Take off the tin foil. Actually, don't. Your tactics are driving educated and suburban voters away in droves. You've lost in Alabama, Kentucky, Kansas, and Louisiana. How the eff do Republicans manage that? Keep it up. Please!
Lies and drivel.
Truth and substance from a reporter who does his research and deserves a Pulitzer rather than the smear campaign recently started by the terrified left:
Former Vice President Joe Biden, now a 2020 Democratic presidential contender, has locked into a specific story about the controversy in Ukraine.
He insists that, in spring 2016, he strong-armed Ukraine to fire its chief prosecutor solely because Biden believed that official was corrupt and inept, not because the Ukrainian was investigating a natural gas company, Burisma Holdings, that hired Biden's son, Hunter, into a lucrative job.
There's just one problem.
Hundreds of pages of never-released memos and documents many from inside the American team helping Burisma to stave off its legal troubles conflict with Biden's narrative.
And they raise the troubling prospect that U.S. officials may have painted a false picture in Ukraine that helped ease Burisma's legal troubles and stop prosecutors' plans to interview Hunter Biden during the 2016 U.S. presidential election.
For instance, Burisma's American legal representatives met with Ukrainian officials just days after Biden forced the firing of the country's chief prosecutor and offered "an apology for dissemination of false information by U.S. representatives and public figures" about the Ukrainian prosecutors, according to the
Ukrainian government's official memo of the meeting. The effort to secure that meeting began the same day the prosecutor's firing was announced.
In addition, Burisma's American team offered to introduce Ukrainian prosecutors to Obama administration officials to make amends, according to
that memo and the American legal team's internal emails.
The memos raise troubling questions:
1.) If the Ukraine prosecutor's firing involved only his alleged corruption and ineptitude, why did Burisma's American legal team refer to those allegations as "false information?"
2.) If the firing had nothing to do with the Burisma case, as Biden has adamantly claimed, why would Burisma's American lawyers contact the replacement prosecutor within hours of the termination and urgently seek a meeting in Ukraine to discuss the case?
Ukrainian prosecutors say they have tried to get this information to the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) since the summer of 2018, fearing it might be evidence of possible violations of U.S. ethics laws. First, they hired a former federal prosecutor to bring the information to the U.S. attorney in New York, who, they say, showed no interest. Then, the Ukrainians reached out to President Trump's personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani.
Ukraine's new president, Volodymyr Zelensky,
told Trump in July that he plans to launch his own wide-ranging investigation into what happened with the Bidens and Burisma.
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/463307-solomon-these-once-secret-memos-cast-doubt-on-joe-bidens-ukraine-story