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Study: 99.75% of hospitalized COVID-19 patients weren't vaccinated - Axios


https://www.axios.com/study-hospitalized-coronavirus-patients-unvaccinated-7ed34f63-fd1d-437c-b4b7-0c1dd3600a15.html
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Thank you Evangelicals, Republicans, and dumb Independents for ensuring that the US will not achieve herd immunity for years. We are still going to achieve a good outcome, but the Trump vaccine hesitancy will keep Covid hanging around.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-daily/id1200361736?i=1000520608752
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In reply to B.A. Bearacus • 5:38p, 5/11/21
B.A. Bearacus said:
Thank you Evangelicals, Republicans, and dumb Independents for ensuring that the US will not achieve herd immunity for years. We are still going to achieve a good outcome, but the Trump vaccine hesitancy will keep Covid hanging around.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-daily/id1200361736?i=1000520608752

Don't hold back and tell us what you really think.
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In reply to B.A. Bearacus • 5:56p, 5/11/21
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Thank you Evangelicals, Republicans, and dumb Independents for ensuring that the US will not achieve herd immunity for years. We are still going to achieve a good outcome, but the Trump vaccine hesitancy will keep Covid hanging around.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-daily/id1200361736?i=1000520608752
Beyond that, when the next pandemic hits and we have the ability to control it with early action, we won't be able to mobilize that action because 35% of our population won't take easy and basic health measures
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The difference between a right wing conspiracy and the truth is about 20 months.
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In reply to B.A. Bearacus • 6:22a, 5/12/21
B.A. Bearacus said:
Thank you Evangelicals, Republicans, and dumb Independents for ensuring that the US will not achieve herd immunity for years. We are still going to achieve a good outcome, but the Trump vaccine hesitancy will keep Covid hanging around.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-daily/id1200361736?i=1000520608752
So ****ing arrogant to think there aren't left leaning anti-vaxxers.
https://qz.com/355398/the-average-anti-vaxxer-is-probably-not-who-you-think-she-is/

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Liberal: 60% of anti-vaxxers describe their political leaning as liberal.

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In reply to Yogi361 • 7:32a, 5/12/21
So f&cking arrogant to act like you know everything and are always right.
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In reply to Yogi361 • 9:18a, 5/12/21
LeninBear said:
B.A. Bearacus said:
Thank you Evangelicals, Republicans, and dumb Independents for ensuring that the US will not achieve herd immunity for years. We are still going to achieve a good outcome, but the Trump vaccine hesitancy will keep Covid hanging around.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-daily/id1200361736?i=1000520608752
So ****ing arrogant to think there aren't left leaning anti-vaxxers.
https://qz.com/355398/the-average-anti-vaxxer-is-probably-not-who-you-think-she-is/

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Liberal: 60% of anti-vaxxers describe their political leaning as liberal.



Your attempts to manipulate a discussion with articles that tangentially sound relevant but are completely off topic are hilariously transparent.

Yes, there has been a problem with dumbass liberals getting on the internet and freaking themselves out about giving their kids autism or something and not giving their kids basic childhood vaccines. We have talked about it here and I have personally dumped on them.

If we were only dealing with the tiny percentage of cranks who are anti-vaxxers , we would be fine. We aren't. Unlike 2015, 60% of the people who are COVID VACCINE HESITANT are not liberal. Democrats and liberals are the groups most chomping at the bit to get the COVID VACCINE. Poll after poll shows this. And poll after poll shows that Republicans are by far the most hesitant and within that group Evangelicals are the most hesitant. The states that are hitting a wall on vaccinations are red states with the most evangelicals. The question of who didn't want to get their kids a measles shot in 2015 is not relevant to who doesn't want to get a Covid shot in 2021. Especially when you have actual data on the latter
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In reply to B.A. Bearacus • 1:26p, 5/12/21
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Thanks again Prez.


Will you thank your prez for these statements? It wasn't that long ago.
The difference between a right wing conspiracy and the truth is about 20 months.
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4:11p, 5/12/21
This may be what it takes to get the dead enders to help us get to herd immunity in red states. Sad that it has come to this but probably helpful.

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In reply to Unit2Sucks • 7:19p, 5/12/21
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This may be what it takes to get the dead enders to help us get to herd immunity in red states. Sad that it has come to this but probably helpful.



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In reply to dimitrig • 8:34p, 5/12/21
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Unit2Sucks said:
This may be what it takes to get the dead enders to help us get to herd immunity in red states. Sad that it has come to this but probably helpful.



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syphillis is a bacterial infection. vaccines won't help.
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In reply to hanky1 • 10:10p, 5/12/21
Thank you for sharing the benefits of your personal experiences.
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https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated-guidance.html

Fully vaccinated people can:
  • Resume activities without wearing masks or physically distancing, except where required by federal, state, local, tribal, or territorial laws, rules and regulations, including local business and workplace guidance
  • Resume domestic travel and refrain from testing before or after travel or self-quarantine after travel
  • Refrain from testing before leaving the United States for international travel (unless required by the destination) and refrain from self-quarantine after arriving back in the United States
  • Refrain from testing following a known exposure, if asymptomatic, with some exceptions for specific settings
  • Refrain from quarantine following a known exposure if asymptomatic
  • Refrain from routine screening testing if feasible
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In reply to B.A. Bearacus • 11:54a, 5/13/21
B.A. Bearacus said:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated-guidance.html

Fully vaccinated people can:
  • Resume activities without wearing masks or physically distancing, except where required by federal, state, local, tribal, or territorial laws, rules and regulations, including local business and workplace guidance
  • Resume domestic travel and refrain from testing before or after travel or self-quarantine after travel
  • Refrain from testing before leaving the United States for international travel (unless required by the destination) and refrain from self-quarantine after arriving back in the United States
  • Refrain from testing following a known exposure, if asymptomatic, with some exceptions for specific settings
  • Refrain from quarantine following a known exposure if asymptomatic
  • Refrain from routine screening testing if feasible


Can't dance though. Liberals won't allow it.
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In reply to hanky1 • 12:11p, 5/13/21
hanky1 said:
B.A. Bearacus said:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated-guidance.html

Fully vaccinated people can:
  • Resume activities without wearing masks or physically distancing, except where required by federal, state, local, tribal, or territorial laws, rules and regulations, including local business and workplace guidance
  • Resume domestic travel and refrain from testing before or after travel or self-quarantine after travel
  • Refrain from testing before leaving the United States for international travel (unless required by the destination) and refrain from self-quarantine after arriving back in the United States
  • Refrain from testing following a known exposure, if asymptomatic, with some exceptions for specific settings
  • Refrain from quarantine following a known exposure if asymptomatic
  • Refrain from routine screening testing if feasible


Can't dance though. Liberals won't allow it.
What kind of intellectual dishonesty and mental gymnastics does it require to go from the mayor of DC limiting activities at indoor weddings to "Liberals won't allow dancing"?

I guess the same kind of mental and moral contortions required of a self professed Christian to support Trump. You are such a flaming hypocrite. Morally bankrupt and mentally deficient is no way to go through life.
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I'm glad I live in a place with high vaccination rates. I don't think I would feel comfortable with this guidance if I lived in an anti-vaxxer location.
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In reply to B.A. Bearacus • 12:28p, 5/13/21
B.A. Bearacus said:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated-guidance.html

Fully vaccinated people can:
  • Resume activities without wearing masks or physically distancing, except where required by federal, state, local, tribal, or territorial laws, rules and regulations, including local business and workplace guidance
  • Resume domestic travel and refrain from testing before or after travel or self-quarantine after travel
  • Refrain from testing before leaving the United States for international travel (unless required by the destination) and refrain from self-quarantine after arriving back in the United States
  • Refrain from testing following a known exposure, if asymptomatic, with some exceptions for specific settings
  • Refrain from quarantine following a known exposure if asymptomatic
  • Refrain from routine screening testing if feasible

This all was fairly obvious weeks ago, but I guess we should just expect the CDC to be slow and overcautious at this point.
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The difference between a right wing conspiracy and the truth is about 20 months.
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In reply to AunBear89 • 4:18p, 5/13/21
AunBear89 said:
hanky1 said:
B.A. Bearacus said:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated-guidance.html

Fully vaccinated people can:
  • Resume activities without wearing masks or physically distancing, except where required by federal, state, local, tribal, or territorial laws, rules and regulations, including local business and workplace guidance
  • Resume domestic travel and refrain from testing before or after travel or self-quarantine after travel
  • Refrain from testing before leaving the United States for international travel (unless required by the destination) and refrain from self-quarantine after arriving back in the United States
  • Refrain from testing following a known exposure, if asymptomatic, with some exceptions for specific settings
  • Refrain from quarantine following a known exposure if asymptomatic
  • Refrain from routine screening testing if feasible


Can't dance though. Liberals won't allow it.
What kind of intellectual dishonesty and mental gymnastics does it require to go from the mayor of DC limiting activities at indoor weddings to "Liberals won't allow dancing"?

I guess the same kind of mental and moral contortions required of a self professed Christian to support Trump. You are such a flaming hypocrite. Morally bankrupt and mentally deficient is no way to go through life.
Aun, why would you deprive a poster of their emotional support teddy bear? Are you that cold-hearted? Would you be happier if these dudes had nothing to clutch onto and had nervous breakdowns?



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In reply to sycasey • 4:53p, 5/13/21
sycasey said:
B.A. Bearacus said:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated-guidance.html

Fully vaccinated people can:
  • Resume activities without wearing masks or physically distancing, except where required by federal, state, local, tribal, or territorial laws, rules and regulations, including local business and workplace guidance
  • Resume domestic travel and refrain from testing before or after travel or self-quarantine after travel
  • Refrain from testing before leaving the United States for international travel (unless required by the destination) and refrain from self-quarantine after arriving back in the United States
  • Refrain from testing following a known exposure, if asymptomatic, with some exceptions for specific settings
  • Refrain from quarantine following a known exposure if asymptomatic
  • Refrain from routine screening testing if feasible

This all was fairly obvious weeks ago, but I guess we should just expect the CDC to be slow and overcautious at this point.
I think it was fairly obvious that it was where the studies were going from preliminary data, but it was fair to let the studies play out to their conclusion especially given having to retract would be disastrous and lets face it, once we got here there is no going back.
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Bill Maher tests POSITIVE for Covid-19 ahead of canceling this week's episode of Real Time... but the comedian 'is asymptomatic and feels fine'

https://mol.im/a/9577327


*This would appear to justify a walk back of the claim vaccinated people are of no risk to unvaccinated people. This has Keystone Cops written all over it. WHAT IS THE F@UCKING BIG DEAL ABOUT MASKS? What is the average emotional maturity age of Americans? 12?

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In reply to BearlyCareAnymore • 5:09p, 5/13/21
OaktownBear said:
sycasey said:
B.A. Bearacus said:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated-guidance.html

Fully vaccinated people can:
  • Resume activities without wearing masks or physically distancing, except where required by federal, state, local, tribal, or territorial laws, rules and regulations, including local business and workplace guidance
  • Resume domestic travel and refrain from testing before or after travel or self-quarantine after travel
  • Refrain from testing before leaving the United States for international travel (unless required by the destination) and refrain from self-quarantine after arriving back in the United States
  • Refrain from testing following a known exposure, if asymptomatic, with some exceptions for specific settings
  • Refrain from quarantine following a known exposure if asymptomatic
  • Refrain from routine screening testing if feasible

This all was fairly obvious weeks ago, but I guess we should just expect the CDC to be slow and overcautious at this point.
I think it was fairly obvious that it was where the studies were going from preliminary data, but it was fair to let the studies play out to their conclusion especially given having to retract would be disastrous and lets face it, once we got here there is no going back.
Yes, on some level I understand their over-caution, though it does seem like they could have been more open about where things were heading.
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In reply to bearister • 5:11p, 5/13/21
bearister said:
Bill Maher tests POSITIVE for Covid-19 ahead of canceling this week's episode of Real Time... but the comedian 'is asymptomatic and feels fine'

https://mol.im/a/9577327


*This would appear to justify a walk back of the claim vaccinated people are of no risk to unvaccinated people. This has Keystone Cops written all over it. WHAT IS THE F@UCKING BIG DEAL ABOUT MASKS? What is the average emotional maturity age of Americans? 12?
Individual examples do not justify any kind of walk back, because they claim was never that vaccinated people are 100% protected from getting or transmitting COVID, only that the chances are significantly reduced. The only way to prove that is to look at results across a large number of people, and that data backs up the claim.
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In reply to sycasey • 5:21p, 5/13/21
sycasey said:
bearister said:
Bill Maher tests POSITIVE for Covid-19 ahead of canceling this week's episode of Real Time... but the comedian 'is asymptomatic and feels fine'

https://mol.im/a/9577327


*This would appear to justify a walk back of the claim vaccinated people are of no risk to unvaccinated people. This has Keystone Cops written all over it. WHAT IS THE F@UCKING BIG DEAL ABOUT MASKS? What is the average emotional maturity age of Americans? 12?
Individual examples do not justify any kind of walk back, because they claim was never that vaccinated people are 100% protected from getting or transmitting COVID, only that the chances are significantly reduced. The only way to prove that is to look at results across a large number of people, and that data backs up the claim.


You are presuming Maher is in the 5% not covered and that his situation is a rarity....both presumptions may be accurate...or not. I truly hope you are right and that the timing on all this is good and that we haven't missed a sweet spot for this relaxation that was a couple of months from now. Fingers crossed. I'm responsible for my own safety with regard to Covid. I expect no one to curtail their freedom to keep me safe.

*Fauci just went all in on the relaxation during an interview with Lester Holt. I have to go with that.
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In reply to bearister • 5:55p, 5/13/21
bearister said:
sycasey said:
bearister said:
Bill Maher tests POSITIVE for Covid-19 ahead of canceling this week's episode of Real Time... but the comedian 'is asymptomatic and feels fine'

https://mol.im/a/9577327


*This would appear to justify a walk back of the claim vaccinated people are of no risk to unvaccinated people. This has Keystone Cops written all over it. WHAT IS THE F@UCKING BIG DEAL ABOUT MASKS? What is the average emotional maturity age of Americans? 12?
Individual examples do not justify any kind of walk back, because they claim was never that vaccinated people are 100% protected from getting or transmitting COVID, only that the chances are significantly reduced. The only way to prove that is to look at results across a large number of people, and that data backs up the claim.


You are presuming Maher is in the 5% not covered and that his situation is a rarity....both presumptions may be accurate...or not. I truly hope you are right and that the timing on all this is good and that we haven't missed a sweet spot for this relaxation that was a couple of months from now. Fingers crossed. I'm responsible for my own safety with regard to Covid. I expect no one to curtail their freedom to keep me safe.

*Fauci just went all in on the relaxation during an interview with Lester Holt. I have to go with that.

I don't need to presume. They have studied the existing vaccinated population by now and COVID cases are very rare, right along the lines of the efficacy the vaccines promised.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/05/real-world-studies-detail-high-pfizer-covid-vaccine-protection
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L.A. won't immediately follow CDC's relaxed mask rules - Los Angeles Times


https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-05-13/fully-vaccinated-people-can-stop-wearing-masks-inside-most-places-except-in-crowds-cdc-says


* This adds another plank to Caitlyn's platform...and the guy with the f@ucking bear, once he recovers.



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In reply to bearister • 7:12p, 5/13/21
bearister said:
L.A. won't immediately follow CDC's relaxed mask rules - Los Angeles Times


https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-05-13/fully-vaccinated-people-can-stop-wearing-masks-inside-most-places-except-in-crowds-cdc-says


* This adds another plank to Caitlyn's platform...and the guy with the f@ucking bear, once he recovers.



I saw one of his bear ads on TV last night. What a lame-o.
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In reply to B.A. Bearacus • 11:09p, 5/13/21
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Hmmm. How did 8 vaccinated Yankees manage to get COVID? One previously had COVID just 6 months ago. If I were unvaccinated (as my kids are) I would still take precautions where the virus is still prevalent.

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In reply to Unit2Sucks • 11:00a, 5/14/21
Unit2Sucks said:
B.A. Bearacus said:
Hmmm. How did 8 vaccinated Yankees manage to get COVID? One previously had COVID just 6 months ago. If I were unvaccinated (as my kids are) I would still take precautions where the virus is still prevalent.

I will explain this with small words so you can understand.

They didn't catch it from a person who had the vaccine.

In fact, all eight had the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, which has the lowest efficacy rate of the three vaccines currently in use. I'm glad I got Pfizer.
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In reply to Unit2Sucks • 11:16a, 5/14/21
Unit2Sucks said:
B.A. Bearacus said:
Hmmm. How did 8 vaccinated Yankees manage to get COVID? One previously had COVID just 6 months ago. If I were unvaccinated (as my kids are) I would still take precautions where the virus is still prevalent.

Because:

1. They got the vaccine with the lower efficacy number (JnJ).

2. Breakthroughs are still possible. We shouldn't be surprised to see some reports of examples like this.

However, the good news is that none of them became severely ill and only one showed any symptoms at all. That's also basically in line with what the vaccines promise. You might catch it, but the vaccines prevent you from dying.
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