Referring to former Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott, Washington state senator Mark Schoesler told The Times today “that one loser they hired is coming back to haunt our state and the entire west coast.” https://t.co/WRgylB7zf0

— Mike Vorel (@mikevorel) August 4, 2023

let's fire Larry Scott again!

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Cal has mismanaged its athletic department for a long time. But the notion that Cal freaking Berkeley - one of the great schools in the country in an amazing location - would get left behind in realignment is unacceptable https://t.co/IhpIo5Vkaj

— Dan Wolken (@DanWolken) August 4, 2023

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The situation is bad, but this seems unnecessarily harsh. If Stanford goes independent there is nothing stopping Cal from going independent too. It is not like you need an invite to go independent. Stanford is in the same boat we are in, hopefully we are working together.

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I suppose we should know what is going to happen in about an hour. I don't think there's any way we could go independent.

As far as the Mountain West. is there any possibility that, with our seemingly well publicized and disliked snobbery, they take OSU and Wazoo and not us?

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calumnus said:

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okaydo said:

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Cal has mismanaged its athletic department for a long time. But the notion that Cal freaking Berkeley - one of the great schools in the country in an amazing location - would get left behind in realignment is unacceptable https://t.co/IhpIo5Vkaj

— Dan Wolken (@DanWolken) August 4, 2023

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The situation is bad, but this seems unnecessarily harsh. If Stanford goes independent there is nothing stopping Cal from going independent too. It is not like you need an invite to go independent. Stanford is in the same boat we are in, hopefully we are working together.

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I suppose we should know what is going to happen in about an hour. I don't think there's any way we could go independent.

As far as the Mountain West. is there any possibility that, with our seemingly well publicized and disliked snobbery, they take OSU and Wazoo and not us?

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Everybody and their grandma knows that at some point the B1G will work out an expansion deal with us now that the PAC-12 is collapsing, and so this won't matter.

Big 12 executives met Thursday to approve the application of Arizona as a 14th member, sources tell @YahooSports, paving the way for the Wildcats to enter the conference. It is another step in UA’s path to join. The final step would be approval from its Board of Regents.

— Ross Dellenger (@RossDellenger) August 4, 2023

one step closer to pac's implosion

I see. I feel better already.

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philly1121 said:

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calumnus said:

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okaydo said:

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Cal has mismanaged its athletic department for a long time. But the notion that Cal freaking Berkeley - one of the great schools in the country in an amazing location - would get left behind in realignment is unacceptable https://t.co/IhpIo5Vkaj

— Dan Wolken (@DanWolken) August 4, 2023

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The situation is bad, but this seems unnecessarily harsh. If Stanford goes independent there is nothing stopping Cal from going independent too. It is not like you need an invite to go independent. Stanford is in the same boat we are in, hopefully we are working together.

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I suppose we should know what is going to happen in about an hour. I don't think there's any way we could go independent.

As far as the Mountain West. is there any possibility that, with our seemingly well publicized and disliked snobbery, they take OSU and Wazoo and not us?

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Everybody and their grandma knows that at some point the B1G will work out an expansion deal with us now that the PAC-12 is collapsing, and so this won't matter.

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Isn't this the same type of snobbery and arrogance that got us in this place? "We are too important to invest in football and be associates with B12 schools." And here we are not having anyone want us and getting obliterated on Twitter. Do you think recruits are seeing all that?

nikeykid said:

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Big 12 executives met Thursday to approve the application of Arizona as a 14th member, sources tell @YahooSports, paving the way for the Wildcats to enter the conference. It is another step in UA’s path to join. The final step would be approval from its Board of Regents.

— Ross Dellenger (@RossDellenger) August 4, 2023

one step closer to pac's implosion

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If it's just Arizona and not ASU or Utah, does the B1G invite Oregon and Washington? If only Arizona leaves, the B1G would get blamed for killing the Pac-12 if they expand further. As long as Utah decides to stay, the Pac-12 probably survives because they're the only one with options right now.

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philly1121 said:

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calumnus said:

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okaydo said:

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Cal has mismanaged its athletic department for a long time. But the notion that Cal freaking Berkeley - one of the great schools in the country in an amazing location - would get left behind in realignment is unacceptable https://t.co/IhpIo5Vkaj

— Dan Wolken (@DanWolken) August 4, 2023

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The situation is bad, but this seems unnecessarily harsh. If Stanford goes independent there is nothing stopping Cal from going independent too. It is not like you need an invite to go independent. Stanford is in the same boat we are in, hopefully we are working together.

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I suppose we should know what is going to happen in about an hour. I don't think there's any way we could go independent.

As far as the Mountain West. is there any possibility that, with our seemingly well publicized and disliked snobbery, they take OSU and Wazoo and not us?

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Everybody and their grandma knows that at some point the B1G will work out an expansion deal with us now that the PAC-12 is collapsing, and so this won't matter.

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Oh come on, this type of talk is part of why we have a bad rep. There's plenty of reasons the B1G may never offer us a spot.

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philly1121 said:

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calumnus said:

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okaydo said:

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Cal has mismanaged its athletic department for a long time. But the notion that Cal freaking Berkeley - one of the great schools in the country in an amazing location - would get left behind in realignment is unacceptable https://t.co/IhpIo5Vkaj

— Dan Wolken (@DanWolken) August 4, 2023

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The situation is bad, but this seems unnecessarily harsh. If Stanford goes independent there is nothing stopping Cal from going independent too. It is not like you need an invite to go independent. Stanford is in the same boat we are in, hopefully we are working together.

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I suppose we should know what is going to happen in about an hour. I don't think there's any way we could go independent.

As far as the Mountain West. is there any possibility that, with our seemingly well publicized and disliked snobbery, they take OSU and Wazoo and not us?

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Everybody and their grandma knows that at some point the B1G will work out an expansion deal with us now that the PAC-12 is collapsing, and so this won't matter.

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Will they?

The Bay Area is a big market, but it is by far the one that's least interested in college football.

The Big Ten would pick Stanford and be happy with it if they wanted one program from the area. If you think Stanford wouldn't leave us behind for more money than you really don't know anything about Stanford.

Then they'd start heading south and picking off a few other schools to go national.

And nothing Cal has done in the last decade-plus indicates they will put in the work to be proactive in expansion. They sat on their hands and whined for alimony.

We are in deep trouble and the decision-makers need to know that from the donors who matter.

Pretty decent Big Ten offer to UO and UW, considering the grim alternative.

Big Ten’s offer to Washington & Oregon is expected to be $35-40 million annually per team - a figure that, with the additional cross-country travel, could create some hesitancy, sources tell @YahooSports.

However, exits from the Four Corner schools could sway UW and UO to leave.

— Ross Dellenger (@RossDellenger) August 4, 2023

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Pretty decent Big Ten offer to UO and UW, considering the grim alternative.

Big Ten’s offer to Washington & Oregon is expected to be $35-40 million annually per team - a figure that, with the additional cross-country travel, could create some hesitancy, sources tell @YahooSports.

However, exits from the Four Corner schools could sway UW and UO to leave.

— Ross Dellenger (@RossDellenger) August 4, 2023

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they'll jump at those numbers.

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What about Berkeley, one of America's great public universities? Nobody cares about Cal; the amount of vitriol against it on social media verges on the ridiculous.

— VPaterno (@VPaterno19) August 3, 2023

This is a good thread to read through. I had no idea the level of hate the regular Joe Schmoe has for Berkeley.

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Not sure I'd describe it as "good".

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I'm not going to read it, but someone has to explain to me why so many people dislike Cal beyond an answer that essentially boils down to "'cuz they LIBRUHL!"

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These two twitter responses pretty much sum it up:

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Nobody feels that way about Virginia, Michigan, Texas, UCLA, UNC, GA Tech, or any of the other great public universities. There is a price to pay for elitism, self-righteousness, and dysfunction. If you're going to sit on a gilded throne, you'd better have your house in order.

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Also Cal and the way they behaved in the wake of UCLA leaving for the B1G turned off a lot of people.

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the rest is "they're commies" and "they'll still have their protests" type comments.

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Not a Cal fan or affiliated with UC Berkeley in any way, but just wanted to provide some outside insight on this since Twitter is pretty unhinged from reality.

I would say that people absolutely view Michigan, Texas, UNC, etc. as extremely elitist as well. Texas especially has a strong argument for the most hated team in college football largely due to their perceived arrogance. I think a key difference that both causes college football fans to care less about Cal and yet have more contempt for them is the degree to which that arrogance is seen as earned or deserved. UC Berkeley is one of the best academic institutions in the world, no doubt. And most everyone knows it's a great school. The thing is though, it also exists in a world outside the one that the vast majority of people are in. Unless you are in a position where you were seriously considering and applying to top 20-30 universities, which most people are not, you don't know how elite some of these institutions are. You know they're good schools, but there's a lot of good schools out there. And in the eyes of the college football fanbase, many of whom didn't attend university at all, a school like Texas is a great school too, but it also has one of the most storied college football programs of all time, an athletic program absolutely swimming in cash, insane program support, and a seat with the big boys now and forever. Texas is elitist and self-righteous, and they have every single right to be as smug as they want about it because they'll never find themselves outside the club. For the large contingent of the college football fanbase for whom a university's name conjures up images of its football teams before its lecture halls, Cal is seen as having a similar attitude towards programs they perceive as below them as a Michigan or Texas without the same high ground to look down on others from -- hating from outside a club they likely won't get into.

As for the politics, I think a lot of college football fans forget that the teams they cheer for are attached to some of the largest research universities in the country, most of which are going to be left-leaning and hold some values that these fans wouldn't agree with. Interestingly, I think that the Cal Athletics vs. UC Berkeley dichotomy almost makes it more difficult for cfb fans to separate the two. Berkeley is undoubtedly a bigger brand than Cal, and branding the athletics differently than the academics just makes Cal athletics feel more inaccessible and doesn't allow Cal to leverage its academic brand to market its athletics to a broader audience to change the perception of Berkeley in some circles. A college football viewer can call themselves a Michigan fan and have Ann Arbor and the University of Michigan call to mind images of gridiron glory rather than the origins of Weather Underground, which paints the institution in a more sympathetic light to those unaffiliated. Ann Arbor is honestly Berkeley adjacent in many ways, yet because of the visibility of the football team that goes by the same namesake as the overall university, it's not something that is as talked about in college football circles.

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nikeykid said:

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Big 12 executives met Thursday to approve the application of Arizona as a 14th member, sources tell @YahooSports, paving the way for the Wildcats to enter the conference. It is another step in UA’s path to join. The final step would be approval from its Board of Regents.

— Ross Dellenger (@RossDellenger) August 4, 2023

one step closer to pac's implosion

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If it's just Arizona and not ASU or Utah, does the B1G invite Oregon and Washington? If only Arizona leaves, the B1G would get blamed for killing the Pac-12 if they expand further. As long as Utah decides to stay, the Pac-12 probably survives because they're the only one with options right now.

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The BIG deserves to be blamed because they did kill the PAC. They will go after the ACC next for a foothold in Florida, the Carolinas and Virginia.. These kind of passive aggressive rationalizations assume they are academic in nature not what they really are- a sports cartel and monopolists.

Pretty sure $ is not a problem for the ducks, or the dogs, for that matter.

The best things in life, Good waves fine women and great liquor.
Go Bears! Wherever that is.

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philly1121 said:

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MTbear22 said:

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maxer said:

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Econ141 said:

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What about Berkeley, one of America's great public universities? Nobody cares about Cal; the amount of vitriol against it on social media verges on the ridiculous.

— VPaterno (@VPaterno19) August 3, 2023

This is a good thread to read through. I had no idea the level of hate the regular Joe Schmoe has for Berkeley.

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Not sure I'd describe it as "good".

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I'm not going to read it, but someone has to explain to me why so many people dislike Cal beyond an answer that essentially boils down to "'cuz they LIBRUHL!"

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These two twitter responses pretty much sum it up:

Quote:

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Nobody feels that way about Virginia, Michigan, Texas, UCLA, UNC, GA Tech, or any of the other great public universities. There is a price to pay for elitism, self-righteousness, and dysfunction. If you're going to sit on a gilded throne, you'd better have your house in order.

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Also Cal and the way they behaved in the wake of UCLA leaving for the B1G turned off a lot of people.

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the rest is "they're commies" and "they'll still have their protests" type comments.

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Not a Cal fan or affiliated with UC Berkeley in any way, but just wanted to provide some outside insight on this since Twitter is pretty unhinged from reality.

I would say that people absolutely view Michigan, Texas, UNC, etc. as extremely elitist as well. Texas especially has a strong argument for the most hated team in college football largely due to their perceived arrogance. I think a key difference that both causes college football fans to care less about Cal and yet have more contempt for them is the degree to which that arrogance is seen as earned or deserved. UC Berkeley is one of the best academic institutions in the world, no doubt. And most everyone knows it's a great school. The thing is though, it also exists in a world outside the one that the vast majority of people are in. Unless you are in a position where you were seriously considering and applying to top 20-30 universities, which most people are not, you don't know how elite some of these institutions are. You know they're good schools, but there's a lot of good schools out there. And in the eyes of the college football fanbase, many of whom didn't attend university at all, a school like Texas is a great school too, but it also has one of the most storied college football programs of all time, an athletic program absolutely swimming in cash, insane program support, and a seat with the big boys now and forever. Texas is elitist and self-righteous, and they have every single right to be as smug as they want about it because they'll never find themselves outside the club. For the large contingent of the college football fanbase for whom a university's name conjures up images of its football teams before its lecture halls, Cal is seen as having a similar attitude towards programs they perceive as below them as a Michigan or Texas without the same high ground to look down on others from hating from outside a club they likely won't get into.

As for the politics, I think a lot of college football fans forget that the teams they cheer for are attached to some of the largest research universities in the country, most of which are going to left-leaning and hold some values that these fans wouldn't agree with. Interestingly, I think that the Cal Athletics vs. UC Berkeley dichotomy almost makes it more difficult for cfb fans to separate the two. Berkeley is undoubtedly a bigger brand than Cal, and branding the athletics differently than the academics just makes Cal athletics feel more inaccessible and doesn't allow Cal to leverage its academic brand to market its athletics to a broader audience to change the perception of Berkeley in some circles. A college football viewer can call themselves a Michigan fan and have Ann Arbor and the University of Michigan call to mind images of gridiron glory rather than the origins of Weather Underground, which paints the institution in a more sympathetic light to those unaffiliated. Ann Arbor is honestly Berkeley adjacent in many ways, yet because of the visibility of the football team that goes by the same namesake as the overall university, it's not something that is as talked about in college football circles.

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Many of the long time posters here hate Berkeley. They seem to be the biggest snobs, too.

Funny site, if you squint a bit.

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Pretty decent Big Ten offer to UO and UW, considering the grim alternative.

Big Ten’s offer to Washington & Oregon is expected to be $35-40 million annually per team - a figure that, with the additional cross-country travel, could create some hesitancy, sources tell @YahooSports.

However, exits from the Four Corner schools could sway UW and UO to leave.

— Ross Dellenger (@RossDellenger) August 4, 2023

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This is disgusting what they're doing to a whole generation of student athletes

philly1121 said:

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calumnus said:

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okaydo said:

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Cal has mismanaged its athletic department for a long time. But the notion that Cal freaking Berkeley - one of the great schools in the country in an amazing location - would get left behind in realignment is unacceptable https://t.co/IhpIo5Vkaj

— Dan Wolken (@DanWolken) August 4, 2023

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The situation is bad, but this seems unnecessarily harsh. If Stanford goes independent there is nothing stopping Cal from going independent too. It is not like you need an invite to go independent. Stanford is in the same boat we are in, hopefully we are working together.

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I suppose we should know what is going to happen in about an hour. I don't think there's any way we could go independent.

As far as the Mountain West. is there any possibility that, with our seemingly well publicized and disliked snobbery, they take OSU and Wazoo and not us?

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My guess is that we and Furd spend many months with the Mountain West as a fallback option, trying to negotiate a way into one of the bigger conferences, maybe at a reduced share (to start). Won't know the ultimate result for some time.

Meanwhile, Pac-12 leaders have held “positive” meetings the last two days to examine details of the Apple deal, sources tell @YahooSports.

Presidents of schools whose membership is in question participated.

A GoR was expected to be presented to presidents at a meeting Friday.

— Ross Dellenger (@RossDellenger) August 4, 2023

does the PAC have one last gasp of air left?

bearsandgiants said:

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BearSD said:

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Pretty decent Big Ten offer to UO and UW, considering the grim alternative.

Big Ten’s offer to Washington & Oregon is expected to be $35-40 million annually per team - a figure that, with the additional cross-country travel, could create some hesitancy, sources tell @YahooSports.

However, exits from the Four Corner schools could sway UW and UO to leave.

— Ross Dellenger (@RossDellenger) August 4, 2023

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This is disgusting what they're doing to a whole generation of student athletes

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What? Paying them to wear laundry?

nikeykid said:

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Meanwhile, Pac-12 leaders have held “positive” meetings the last two days to examine details of the Apple deal, sources tell @YahooSports.

Presidents of schools whose membership is in question participated.

A GoR was expected to be presented to presidents at a meeting Friday.

— Ross Dellenger (@RossDellenger) August 4, 2023

does the PAC have one last gasp of air left?

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LOL.

"Presidents of schools whose membership is in question participated." Whoop-de-doo, they logged onto a Zoom call, turned off their cameras, muted their mics so Georgie couldn't hear them laughing, and went back to their phone calls or emails.

nikeykid said:

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Meanwhile, Pac-12 leaders have held “positive” meetings the last two days to examine details of the Apple deal, sources tell @YahooSports.

Presidents of schools whose membership is in question participated.

A GoR was expected to be presented to presidents at a meeting Friday.

— Ross Dellenger (@RossDellenger) August 4, 2023

does the PAC have one last gasp of air left?

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If Cal had that offer, I'd hope they jump. There will be two super conferences by the end of the decade, you need to get your ticket when you can, dont worry about the specifics.

golden sloth said:

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nikeykid said:

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Meanwhile, Pac-12 leaders have held “positive” meetings the last two days to examine details of the Apple deal, sources tell @YahooSports.

Presidents of schools whose membership is in question participated.

A GoR was expected to be presented to presidents at a meeting Friday.

— Ross Dellenger (@RossDellenger) August 4, 2023

does the PAC have one last gasp of air left?

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If Cal had that offer, I'd hope they jump. There will be two super conferences by the end of the decade, you need to get your ticket when you can, dont worry about the specifics.

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Our offer will likely be even worse since we'll virtually have no other choice because we're too snobbish for the Big 12. Think $20-25 mil.

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golden sloth said:

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nikeykid said:

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Meanwhile, Pac-12 leaders have held “positive” meetings the last two days to examine details of the Apple deal, sources tell @YahooSports.

Presidents of schools whose membership is in question participated.

A GoR was expected to be presented to presidents at a meeting Friday.

— Ross Dellenger (@RossDellenger) August 4, 2023

does the PAC have one last gasp of air left?

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If Cal had that offer, I'd hope they jump. There will be two super conferences by the end of the decade, you need to get your ticket when you can, dont worry about the specifics.

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Our offer will likely be even worse since we'll virtually have no other choice because we're too snobbish for the Big 12. Think $20-25 mil.

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25M and the freedom for a side deal with Apple on sports other than football and basketball?

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golden sloth said:

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nikeykid said:

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Meanwhile, Pac-12 leaders have held “positive” meetings the last two days to examine details of the Apple deal, sources tell @YahooSports.

Presidents of schools whose membership is in question participated.

A GoR was expected to be presented to presidents at a meeting Friday.

— Ross Dellenger (@RossDellenger) August 4, 2023

does the PAC have one last gasp of air left?

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If Cal had that offer, I'd hope they jump. There will be two super conferences by the end of the decade, you need to get your ticket when you can, dont worry about the specifics.

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Our offer will likely be even worse since we'll virtually have no other choice because we're too snobbish for the Big 12. Think $20-25 mil.

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That's not my point. My point is that college football is dying, and similar to as if the earth were going to explode, everyone needs a shuttle ride to space. The problem is there is limited seats. If you can get on the shuttle, hop on. The BiG and the SEC are those shuttles, jump, and dont complain about not having the leather chair or leaving a bag behind.

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LessMilesMoreTedford said:

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golden sloth said:

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nikeykid said:

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Meanwhile, Pac-12 leaders have held “positive” meetings the last two days to examine details of the Apple deal, sources tell @YahooSports.

Presidents of schools whose membership is in question participated.

A GoR was expected to be presented to presidents at a meeting Friday.

— Ross Dellenger (@RossDellenger) August 4, 2023

does the PAC have one last gasp of air left?

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If Cal had that offer, I'd hope they jump. There will be two super conferences by the end of the decade, you need to get your ticket when you can, dont worry about the specifics.

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Our offer will likely be even worse since we'll virtually have no other choice because we're too snobbish for the Big 12. Think $20-25 mil.

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25M and the freedom for a side deal with Apple on sports other than football and basketball?

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The world is ending and some people would rather sit and wait for the inevitable rather than hop on the last ride out, ****ing death cultists.

Hearing that Pac-8 (weird to say but true) is having one last ditch effort meeting tomorrow to try and salvage the conference. Michael Crow is willing to delay ASU's decision and attend that meeting. Cautiously optimistic that ASU still makes the move.

— DevilsDigest.com (@DevilsDigest) August 4, 2023

lol ASU president trying to fumble the ball at the 1 yard line

The realignment endgame is not two super conferences. It's one. It's the premier league of college football.

nikeykid said:

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Hearing that Pac-8 (weird to say but true) is having one last ditch effort meeting tomorrow to try and salvage the conference. Michael Crow is willing to delay ASU's decision and attend that meeting. Cautiously optimistic that ASU still makes the move.

— DevilsDigest.com (@DevilsDigest) August 4, 2023

lol ASU president trying to fumble the ball at the 1 yard line

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Washington could vote tonight to leave and this becomes rather moot.

nikeykid said:

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Hearing that Pac-8 (weird to say but true) is having one last ditch effort meeting tomorrow to try and salvage the conference. Michael Crow is willing to delay ASU's decision and attend that meeting. Cautiously optimistic that ASU still makes the move.

— DevilsDigest.com (@DevilsDigest) August 4, 2023

lol ASU president trying to fumble the ball at the 1 yard line

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Longest serving member on the p12 board. Also the biggest proponent of Larry Scott. He's just going thru the political motions: 'sure, I'll meet to see what you got' (while I am packing up the moving truck).

But it could be that the B12 would rather have Utah at a full share than ASU....

btw: that must also mean that the Arizona board voted in Exec Comte to approve the Wildcats leaving. Otherwise, how does he get to 8?

golden sloth said:

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LessMilesMoreTedford said:

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golden sloth said:

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nikeykid said:

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Meanwhile, Pac-12 leaders have held “positive” meetings the last two days to examine details of the Apple deal, sources tell @YahooSports.

Presidents of schools whose membership is in question participated.

A GoR was expected to be presented to presidents at a meeting Friday.

— Ross Dellenger (@RossDellenger) August 4, 2023

does the PAC have one last gasp of air left?

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If Cal had that offer, I'd hope they jump. There will be two super conferences by the end of the decade, you need to get your ticket when you can, dont worry about the specifics.

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Our offer will likely be even worse since we'll virtually have no other choice because we're too snobbish for the Big 12. Think $20-25 mil.

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That's not my point. My point is that college football is dying, and similar to as if the earth were going to explode, everyone needs a shuttle ride to space. The problem is there is limited seats. If you can get on the shuttle, hop on. The BiG and the SEC are those shuttles, jump, and dont complain about not having the leather chair or leaving a bag behind.

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You can't jump on the ship of you don't have a ticket.

Strykur said:

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nikeykid said:

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Hearing that Pac-8 (weird to say but true) is having one last ditch effort meeting tomorrow to try and salvage the conference. Michael Crow is willing to delay ASU's decision and attend that meeting. Cautiously optimistic that ASU still makes the move.

— DevilsDigest.com (@DevilsDigest) August 4, 2023

lol ASU president trying to fumble the ball at the 1 yard line

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Washington could vote tonight to leave and this becomes rather moot.

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And go to the Big 12?

juarezbear said:

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Strykur said:

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nikeykid said:

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Hearing that Pac-8 (weird to say but true) is having one last ditch effort meeting tomorrow to try and salvage the conference. Michael Crow is willing to delay ASU's decision and attend that meeting. Cautiously optimistic that ASU still makes the move.

— DevilsDigest.com (@DevilsDigest) August 4, 2023

lol ASU president trying to fumble the ball at the 1 yard line

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Washington could vote tonight to leave and this becomes rather moot.

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And go to the Big 12?

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They still don't have an actionable B1G offer.

juarezbear said:

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Strykur said:

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nikeykid said:

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Hearing that Pac-8 (weird to say but true) is having one last ditch effort meeting tomorrow to try and salvage the conference. Michael Crow is willing to delay ASU's decision and attend that meeting. Cautiously optimistic that ASU still makes the move.

— DevilsDigest.com (@DevilsDigest) August 4, 2023

lol ASU president trying to fumble the ball at the 1 yard line

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Washington could vote tonight to leave and this becomes rather moot.

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And go to the Big 12?

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What the hell have you been doing all day?

Big Ten just trying to figure out financials at this point on Oregon & Washington, sources told @ActionNetworkHQ. “There is no more research or information needed on Oregon & Washington,” B1G sources said. “We have everything we need.”

— Brett McMurphy (@Brett_McMurphy) August 3, 2023

nikeykid said:

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Hearing that Pac-8 (weird to say but true) is having one last ditch effort meeting tomorrow to try and salvage the conference. Michael Crow is willing to delay ASU's decision and attend that meeting. Cautiously optimistic that ASU still makes the move.

— DevilsDigest.com (@DevilsDigest) August 4, 2023

lol ASU president trying to fumble the ball at the 1 yard line

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Did UA already vote to bail?