ducky23 said:dimitrig said:LunchTime said:
You don't get a ton of opportunities to catch good teams when they suck.
Cal beat Texas, Auburn, Oklahoma when they were terrible. Cal lost to a terrible FSU. Even holmoe thrashed USC when they were shart.
We also blew a chance against Notre Dame.
This did not feel at all like Notre dame. I've been following cal football for 40+ years. This has to be on my top 5 list of most devastating losses
bencgilmore said:ducky23 said:dimitrig said:LunchTime said:
You don't get a ton of opportunities to catch good teams when they suck.
Cal beat Texas, Auburn, Oklahoma when they were terrible. Cal lost to a terrible FSU. Even holmoe thrashed USC when they were shart.
We also blew a chance against Notre Dame.
This did not feel at all like Notre dame. I've been following cal football for 40+ years. This has to be on my top 5 list of most devastating losses
Come on...
Christ and Knowlton have been on record saying they were completely committed to the PAC-12 and had no contingency for its collapse, we do have new leadership at the top but no apparent urgency that we are fighting for survival game-to-game for the next 5 seasonsducky23 said:Really?bencgilmore said:Come on...ducky23 said:This did not feel at all like Notre dame. I've been following cal football for 40+ years. This has to be on my top 5 list of most devastating lossesdimitrig said:We also blew a chance against Notre Dame.LunchTime said:
You don't get a ton of opportunities to catch good teams when they suck.
Cal beat Texas, Auburn, Oklahoma when they were terrible. Cal lost to a terrible FSU. Even holmoe thrashed USC when they were shart.
In the last 40 years, when has the very existence of cal football been on the line?
ducky23 said:bencgilmore said:ducky23 said:dimitrig said:LunchTime said:
You don't get a ton of opportunities to catch good teams when they suck.
Cal beat Texas, Auburn, Oklahoma when they were terrible. Cal lost to a terrible FSU. Even holmoe thrashed USC when they were shart.
We also blew a chance against Notre Dame.
This did not feel at all like Notre dame. I've been following cal football for 40+ years. This has to be on my top 5 list of most devastating losses
Come on...
Really?
In the last 40 years, when has the very existence of cal football been on the line?
bencgilmore said:ducky23 said:bencgilmore said:ducky23 said:dimitrig said:LunchTime said:
You don't get a ton of opportunities to catch good teams when they suck.
Cal beat Texas, Auburn, Oklahoma when they were terrible. Cal lost to a terrible FSU. Even holmoe thrashed USC when they were shart.
We also blew a chance against Notre Dame.
This did not feel at all like Notre dame. I've been following cal football for 40+ years. This has to be on my top 5 list of most devastating losses
Come on...
Really?
In the last 40 years, when has the very existence of cal football been on the line?
Cal footballs future was not at stake (no one game is going to decide it) . And there have been many worse losses. Lay off the Macallan for a minute
It's one game but several more of these over the next 5 seasons and we're outside the Power 4 thanks to myopia as seen herebencgilmore said:Cal footballs future was not at stake (no one game is going to decide it) . And there have been many worse losses. Lay off the Macallan for a minuteducky23 said:Really?bencgilmore said:Come on...ducky23 said:This did not feel at all like Notre dame. I've been following cal football for 40+ years. This has to be on my top 5 list of most devastating lossesdimitrig said:We also blew a chance against Notre Dame.LunchTime said:
You don't get a ton of opportunities to catch good teams when they suck.
Cal beat Texas, Auburn, Oklahoma when they were terrible. Cal lost to a terrible FSU. Even holmoe thrashed USC when they were shart.
In the last 40 years, when has the very existence of cal football been on the line?
ducky23 said:bencgilmore said:ducky23 said:bencgilmore said:ducky23 said:dimitrig said:LunchTime said:
You don't get a ton of opportunities to catch good teams when they suck.
Cal beat Texas, Auburn, Oklahoma when they were terrible. Cal lost to a terrible FSU. Even holmoe thrashed USC when they were shart.
We also blew a chance against Notre Dame.
This did not feel at all like Notre dame. I've been following cal football for 40+ years. This has to be on my top 5 list of most devastating losses
Come on...
Really?
In the last 40 years, when has the very existence of cal football been on the line?
Cal footballs future was not at stake (no one game is going to decide it) . And there have been many worse losses. Lay off the Macallan for a minute
Sigh…our future wasn't at stake, but the win sure would've helped.
With a win, we get two more weeks of the national media focusing on the calgorithm, we then roll into gameday at Berkeley. If we somehow beat Miami, we are now the IT team in all of college football. That's not hyperbole. That's exactly what would've happened. You really don't think that would've helped?
It's not necessarily the wins and losses. It's the exposure. It's changing our reputation in the college football landscape. If we can't do that, we're going to be left out. How is this difficult to understand?
sycasey said:
I think the good news is that in the ACC we don't necessarily have to rely on one game to get decent national exposure. If we have a decent record we will get regular appearances on ESPN, and the good TV ratings should follow. So the focus needs to be on putting together good seasons: 8 wins or more. That's still in reach.
golden sloth said:sycasey said:
I think the good news is that in the ACC we don't necessarily have to rely on one game to get decent national exposure. If we have a decent record we will get regular appearances on ESPN, and the good TV ratings should follow. So the focus needs to be on putting together good seasons: 8 wins or more. That's still in reach.
I agree, but with the national audience, it would be nice to capitalize and perform well. I fear between FSU, Miami, and Pitt we will receive three national broadcasts, but we will likely lose all three.
You are right in there this game didn't decide our future for sure, but to get that national attention again? We'd have to beat Miami and then probably Pitt, a tall order we created for ourselves. If we rolled into the Miami game with momentum, even if we lose against a top ten team we stay ranked and stay in the convo for a rematch with Miami maybe down the road at the conference championship.bencgilmore said:ducky23 said:bencgilmore said:ducky23 said:dimitrig said:LunchTime said:
You don't get a ton of opportunities to catch good teams when they suck.
Cal beat Texas, Auburn, Oklahoma when they were terrible. Cal lost to a terrible FSU. Even holmoe thrashed USC when they were shart.
We also blew a chance against Notre Dame.
This did not feel at all like Notre dame. I've been following cal football for 40+ years. This has to be on my top 5 list of most devastating losses
Come on...
Really?
In the last 40 years, when has the very existence of cal football been on the line?
Cal footballs future was not at stake (no one game is going to decide it) . And there have been many worse losses. Lay off the Macallan for a minute
Fred Bear said:We need a perfect storm to have an 8-4 season. If people really thought 10-2 was possible, I don't even know what to say to that. You clearly have a glass 3/4-full view of the world and I envy you.Quote:
We need a perfect storm now to have a great season, more than likely we will end with a 8-4 or 7-5 type season. Good enough maybe in your book, but in my mind that is pushing us one step closer to relegation in 6 years. There are only so many years you can write off, losing these easy games are a difference between a 8-4 season or a 10-2 season
People are making way, way too much about beating a 2-2 Auburn program on the road because of the name, just like they would have made too much out of beating Florida State if we'd somehow squeaked that one out despite all the mistakes. This is not a good football team. Teams that are poorly coached like this program is will find ways to blow games they shouldn't. Far better Jeff Tedford coached teams with far more talent blew games against the kind of competition Cal will be facing down the line. You can take it to the bank that as past Justin Wilcox teams have found ways to lose games they shouldn't in past seasons, they will find ways to do it this year too, even if the sum total of the talent is somewhat better than it has been recently. Just the kicking game alone is enough to guarantee that. If we somehow manage to finish 8-4, be extremely thankful for it.
Fred Bear said:We need a perfect storm to have an 8-4 season. If people really thought 10-2 was possible, I don't even know what to say to that. You clearly have a glass 3/4-full view of the world and I envy you.Quote:
We need a perfect storm now to have a great season, more than likely we will end with a 8-4 or 7-5 type season. Good enough maybe in your book, but in my mind that is pushing us one step closer to relegation in 6 years. There are only so many years you can write off, losing these easy games are a difference between a 8-4 season or a 10-2 season
People are making way, way too much about beating a 2-2 Auburn program on the road because of the name, just like they would have made too much out of beating Florida State if we'd somehow squeaked that one out despite all the mistakes. This is not a good football team. Teams that are poorly coached like this program is will find ways to blow games they shouldn't. Far better Jeff Tedford coached teams with far more talent blew games against the kind of competition Cal will be facing down the line. You can take it to the bank that as past Justin Wilcox teams have found ways to lose games they shouldn't in past seasons, they will find ways to do it this year too, even if the sum total of the talent is somewhat better than it has been recently. Just the kicking game alone is enough to guarantee that. If we somehow manage to finish 8-4, be extremely thankful for it.
golden sloth said:Fred Bear said:We need a perfect storm to have an 8-4 season. If people really thought 10-2 was possible, I don't even know what to say to that. You clearly have a glass 3/4-full view of the world and I envy you.Quote:
We need a perfect storm now to have a great season, more than likely we will end with a 8-4 or 7-5 type season. Good enough maybe in your book, but in my mind that is pushing us one step closer to relegation in 6 years. There are only so many years you can write off, losing these easy games are a difference between a 8-4 season or a 10-2 season
People are making way, way too much about beating a 2-2 Auburn program on the road because of the name, just like they would have made too much out of beating Florida State if we'd somehow squeaked that one out despite all the mistakes. This is not a good football team. Teams that are poorly coached like this program is will find ways to blow games they shouldn't. Far better Jeff Tedford coached teams with far more talent blew games against the kind of competition Cal will be facing down the line. You can take it to the bank that as past Justin Wilcox teams have found ways to lose games they shouldn't in past seasons, they will find ways to do it this year too, even if the sum total of the talent is somewhat better than it has been recently. Just the kicking game alone is enough to guarantee that. If we somehow manage to finish 8-4, be extremely thankful for it.
I dont think you've looked around our new conference. Miami looks great, everyone else looks beatable. I'm not saying they will win every game, but the opportunity is there to win.
golden sloth said:Fred Bear said:We need a perfect storm to have an 8-4 season. If people really thought 10-2 was possible, I don't even know what to say to that. You clearly have a glass 3/4-full view of the world and I envy you.Quote:
We need a perfect storm now to have a great season, more than likely we will end with a 8-4 or 7-5 type season. Good enough maybe in your book, but in my mind that is pushing us one step closer to relegation in 6 years. There are only so many years you can write off, losing these easy games are a difference between a 8-4 season or a 10-2 season
People are making way, way too much about beating a 2-2 Auburn program on the road because of the name, just like they would have made too much out of beating Florida State if we'd somehow squeaked that one out despite all the mistakes. This is not a good football team. Teams that are poorly coached like this program is will find ways to blow games they shouldn't. Far better Jeff Tedford coached teams with far more talent blew games against the kind of competition Cal will be facing down the line. You can take it to the bank that as past Justin Wilcox teams have found ways to lose games they shouldn't in past seasons, they will find ways to do it this year too, even if the sum total of the talent is somewhat better than it has been recently. Just the kicking game alone is enough to guarantee that. If we somehow manage to finish 8-4, be extremely thankful for it.
I dont think you've looked around our new conference. Miami looks great, everyone else looks beatable. I'm not saying they will win every game, but the opportunity is there to win.
movielover said:
Kevin Daft played QB, was on the Bear coaching staff for 6 or 7 years, and has been the OC at Princeton for 7 years with a lot of success. They had a five-year run which broke all Priceton records for wins. He also recruits SoCal and Texas.
He should fit the Cal budget.
calumnus said:movielover said:
Kevin Daft played QB, was on the Bear coaching staff for 6 or 7 years, and has been the OC at Princeton for 7 years with a lot of success. They had a five-year run which broke all Priceton records for wins. He also recruits SoCal and Texas.
He should fit the Cal budget.
Brenan Marion (The "Go Go Offense") is a young, super smart and creative guy a lot of us wanted last time and he is putting up a lot of points at UNLV (top 20 offense).
https://unlvrebels.com/sports/football/roster/coaches/brennan-marion/3613
82gradDLSdad said:calumnus said:movielover said:
Kevin Daft played QB, was on the Bear coaching staff for 6 or 7 years, and has been the OC at Princeton for 7 years with a lot of success. They had a five-year run which broke all Priceton records for wins. He also recruits SoCal and Texas.
He should fit the Cal budget.
Brenan Marion (The "Go Go Offense") is a young, super smart and creative guy a lot of us wanted last time and he is putting up a lot of points at UNLV (top 20 offense).
https://unlvrebels.com/sports/football/roster/coaches/brennan-marion/3613
Wilcox would have the go-gos if he ever hired this guy and turned him loose.
82gradDLSdad said:golden sloth said:Fred Bear said:We need a perfect storm to have an 8-4 season. If people really thought 10-2 was possible, I don't even know what to say to that. You clearly have a glass 3/4-full view of the world and I envy you.Quote:
We need a perfect storm now to have a great season, more than likely we will end with a 8-4 or 7-5 type season. Good enough maybe in your book, but in my mind that is pushing us one step closer to relegation in 6 years. There are only so many years you can write off, losing these easy games are a difference between a 8-4 season or a 10-2 season
People are making way, way too much about beating a 2-2 Auburn program on the road because of the name, just like they would have made too much out of beating Florida State if we'd somehow squeaked that one out despite all the mistakes. This is not a good football team. Teams that are poorly coached like this program is will find ways to blow games they shouldn't. Far better Jeff Tedford coached teams with far more talent blew games against the kind of competition Cal will be facing down the line. You can take it to the bank that as past Justin Wilcox teams have found ways to lose games they shouldn't in past seasons, they will find ways to do it this year too, even if the sum total of the talent is somewhat better than it has been recently. Just the kicking game alone is enough to guarantee that. If we somehow manage to finish 8-4, be extremely thankful for it.
I dont think you've looked around our new conference. Miami looks great, everyone else looks beatable. I'm not saying they will win every game, but the opportunity is there to win.
I'm sure FSU is representative of the league so we could win a lot. I'll be shocked if we do though. They're a lot of holes in this team and coaching staff. They have been very evident for years and continue into this year.
dimitrig said:82gradDLSdad said:golden sloth said:Fred Bear said:We need a perfect storm to have an 8-4 season. If people really thought 10-2 was possible, I don't even know what to say to that. You clearly have a glass 3/4-full view of the world and I envy you.Quote:
We need a perfect storm now to have a great season, more than likely we will end with a 8-4 or 7-5 type season. Good enough maybe in your book, but in my mind that is pushing us one step closer to relegation in 6 years. There are only so many years you can write off, losing these easy games are a difference between a 8-4 season or a 10-2 season
People are making way, way too much about beating a 2-2 Auburn program on the road because of the name, just like they would have made too much out of beating Florida State if we'd somehow squeaked that one out despite all the mistakes. This is not a good football team. Teams that are poorly coached like this program is will find ways to blow games they shouldn't. Far better Jeff Tedford coached teams with far more talent blew games against the kind of competition Cal will be facing down the line. You can take it to the bank that as past Justin Wilcox teams have found ways to lose games they shouldn't in past seasons, they will find ways to do it this year too, even if the sum total of the talent is somewhat better than it has been recently. Just the kicking game alone is enough to guarantee that. If we somehow manage to finish 8-4, be extremely thankful for it.
I dont think you've looked around our new conference. Miami looks great, everyone else looks beatable. I'm not saying they will win every game, but the opportunity is there to win.
I'm sure FSU is representative of the league so we could win a lot. I'll be shocked if we do though. They're a lot of holes in this team and coaching staff. They have been very evident for years and continue into this year.
The only team FSU beat is us. If FSU is representative of the league we will go winless the rest of the way.
Intriguing thought. On the other hand, Buddy Teevens had success at Dartmouth (in two different stints) but washed out at Stanford.movielover said:
Kevin Daft played QB, was on the Bear coaching staff for 6 or 7 years, and has been the OC at Dartmouth 7 years with a lot of success. They had a five-year run which broke all Dartmouth records for wins. He also recruits SoCal and Texas.
He should fit the Cal budget.
southseasbear said:Intriguing thought. On the other hand, Buddy Teevens had success at Dartmouth (in two different stints) but washed out at Stanford.movielover said:
Kevin Daft played QB, was on the Bear coaching staff for 6 or 7 years, and has been the OC at Dartmouth 7 years with a lot of success. They had a five-year run which broke all Dartmouth records for wins. He also recruits SoCal and Texas.
He should fit the Cal budget.
Good point!Pittstop said:southseasbear said:Intriguing thought. On the other hand, Buddy Teevens had success at Dartmouth (in two different stints) but washed out at Stanford.movielover said:
Kevin Daft played QB, was on the Bear coaching staff for 6 or 7 years, and has been the OC at Dartmouth 7 years with a lot of success. They had a five-year run which broke all Dartmouth records for wins. He also recruits SoCal and Texas.
He should fit the Cal budget.
As a 'HC'. Coordinator is different. A 'singular' focus & specialty.
calumnus said:movielover said:
Kevin Daft played QB, was on the Bear coaching staff for 6 or 7 years, and has been the OC at Princeton for 7 years with a lot of success. They had a five-year run which broke all Priceton records for wins. He also recruits SoCal and Texas.
He should fit the Cal budget.
Brenan Marion (The "Go Go Offense") is a young, super smart and creative guy a lot of us wanted last time and he is putting up a lot of points at UNLV (top 20 offense).
https://unlvrebels.com/sports/football/roster/coaches/brennan-marion/3613
oski003 said:calumnus said:movielover said:
Kevin Daft played QB, was on the Bear coaching staff for 6 or 7 years, and has been the OC at Princeton for 7 years with a lot of success. They had a five-year run which broke all Priceton records for wins. He also recruits SoCal and Texas.
He should fit the Cal budget.
Brenan Marion (The "Go Go Offense") is a young, super smart and creative guy a lot of us wanted last time and he is putting up a lot of points at UNLV (top 20 offense).
https://unlvrebels.com/sports/football/roster/coaches/brennan-marion/3613
He just lost his QB. Unlv boosters are apparently not coming through on the promised NIL money, so the starting 3-0 QB said he is sitting the rest of the season.
dimitrig said:oski003 said:calumnus said:movielover said:
Kevin Daft played QB, was on the Bear coaching staff for 6 or 7 years, and has been the OC at Princeton for 7 years with a lot of success. They had a five-year run which broke all Priceton records for wins. He also recruits SoCal and Texas.
He should fit the Cal budget.
Brenan Marion (The "Go Go Offense") is a young, super smart and creative guy a lot of us wanted last time and he is putting up a lot of points at UNLV (top 20 offense).
https://unlvrebels.com/sports/football/roster/coaches/brennan-marion/3613
He just lost his QB. Unlv boosters are apparently not coming through on the promised NIL money, so the starting 3-0 QB said he is sitting the rest of the season.
College sports is very broken
