You don't get a ton of opportunities to catch good teams when they suck.

Cal beat Texas, Auburn, Oklahoma when they were terrible. Cal lost to a terrible FSU. Even holmoe thrashed USC when they were shart.

LunchTime said:

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You don't get a ton of opportunities to catch good teams when they suck.

Cal beat Texas, Auburn, Oklahoma when they were terrible. Cal lost to a terrible FSU. Even holmoe thrashed USC when they were shart.

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We also blew a chance against Notre Dame.

dimitrig said:

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LunchTime said:

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You don't get a ton of opportunities to catch good teams when they suck.

Cal beat Texas, Auburn, Oklahoma when they were terrible. Cal lost to a terrible FSU. Even holmoe thrashed USC when they were shart.

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We also blew a chance against Notre Dame.

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This did not feel at all like Notre dame. I've been following cal football for 40+ years. This has to be on my top 5 list of most devastating losses

great. we waited 8 years to get an 8 win team in a watered down conference. by this trajectory we will get to 9 wins in 35 years! maybe even 10 wins when we get relegated to the mountain west!

ducky23 said:

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dimitrig said:

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LunchTime said:

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You don't get a ton of opportunities to catch good teams when they suck.

Cal beat Texas, Auburn, Oklahoma when they were terrible. Cal lost to a terrible FSU. Even holmoe thrashed USC when they were shart.

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We also blew a chance against Notre Dame.

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This did not feel at all like Notre dame. I've been following cal football for 40+ years. This has to be on my top 5 list of most devastating losses

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in the last 20 years.

rodgers 4th down
riley OSU
desean big toe
utah 2015
asu 2019

thuis feels worst than almost 1/2 of them (rodgers and riley OSU might be #1 and #2 because of the implications

this loss reminds me of dykes in 2015 against utah on college game day. and 2019 against ASU. we were ranked both times and immediately fell out. this one is the same. just when we are about to gather some momentum…

TedfordTheGreat said:

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ducky23 said:

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dimitrig said:

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LunchTime said:

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You don't get a ton of opportunities to catch good teams when they suck.

Cal beat Texas, Auburn, Oklahoma when they were terrible. Cal lost to a terrible FSU. Even holmoe thrashed USC when they were shart.

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We also blew a chance against Notre Dame.

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This did not feel at all like Notre dame. I've been following cal football for 40+ years. This has to be on my top 5 list of most devastating losses

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in the last 20 years.

rodgers 4th down
riley OSU
desean big toe
utah 2015
asu 2019

thuis feels worst than almost 1/2 of them (rodgers and riley OSU might be #1 and #2 because of the implications

this loss reminds me of dykes in 2015 against utah on college game day. and 2019 against ASU. we were ranked both times and immediately fell out. this one is the same. just when we are about to gather some momentum…

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2004 SC was one of the greatest teams of all time, Riley's boner was bad but if Tedford had not descended into insanity and played him the rest of the way we may have still competed for everything in 2007, Goff was awful at Utah but we had many other issues and ASU 2019 was due to an injury which would be much bigger than that game...

Tonight was bad but we have a bye week to correct some things going into a game where we were going to be pretty major dogs regardless, but if we come out versus Pitt looking as pathetic as tonight then we need to question everything about this regime

TedfordTheGreat said:

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ducky23 said:

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dimitrig said:

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LunchTime said:

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You don't get a ton of opportunities to catch good teams when they suck.

Cal beat Texas, Auburn, Oklahoma when they were terrible. Cal lost to a terrible FSU. Even holmoe thrashed USC when they were shart.

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We also blew a chance against Notre Dame.

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This did not feel at all like Notre dame. I've been following cal football for 40+ years. This has to be on my top 5 list of most devastating losses

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in the last 20 years.

rodgers 4th down
riley OSU
desean big toe
utah 2015
asu 2019

thuis feels worst than almost 1/2 of them (rodgers and riley OSU might be #1 and #2 because of the implications

this loss reminds me of dykes in 2015 against utah on college game day. and 2019 against ASU. we were ranked both times and immediately fell out. this one is the same. just when we are about to gather some momentum…

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Utah was #5, this FSU team was 0-3, number 1 in the Bottom 10. There is no comparison.

This is more like Auburn last year or Notre Dame two years ago, an opportunity to beat a big name team when they are on the ropes, build some momentum and elevate the program.

TedfordTheGreat said:

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ducky23 said:

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dimitrig said:

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LunchTime said:

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You don't get a ton of opportunities to catch good teams when they suck.

Cal beat Texas, Auburn, Oklahoma when they were terrible. Cal lost to a terrible FSU. Even holmoe thrashed USC when they were shart.

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We also blew a chance against Notre Dame.

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This did not feel at all like Notre dame. I've been following cal football for 40+ years. This has to be on my top 5 list of most devastating losses

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in the last 20 years.

rodgers 4th down
riley OSU
desean big toe
utah 2015
asu 2019

thuis feels worst than almost 1/2 of them (rodgers and riley OSU might be #1 and #2 because of the implications

this loss reminds me of dykes in 2015 against utah on college game day. and 2019 against ASU. we were ranked both times and immediately fell out. this one is the same. just when we are about to gather some momentum…

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Pfff the Utah and ASU games were small potatoes (personally I never thought those teams were that good, so I didn't think the stakes were that high. I gave us almost zero chance of beating Utah at utah)

For me it's
- UW '91 (though that was different cause I gave the team a standing ovation after the game)
- Barnes fumble
- SC 04
- Arizona and the PI and toe
- Riley osu
- FSU

I honestly think this was the most high stakes game we've played since tedford

calumnus said:

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TedfordTheGreat said:

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ducky23 said:

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dimitrig said:

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LunchTime said:

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You don't get a ton of opportunities to catch good teams when they suck.

Cal beat Texas, Auburn, Oklahoma when they were terrible. Cal lost to a terrible FSU. Even holmoe thrashed USC when they were shart.

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We also blew a chance against Notre Dame.

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This did not feel at all like Notre dame. I've been following cal football for 40+ years. This has to be on my top 5 list of most devastating losses

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in the last 20 years.

rodgers 4th down
riley OSU
desean big toe
utah 2015
asu 2019

thuis feels worst than almost 1/2 of them (rodgers and riley OSU might be #1 and #2 because of the implications

this loss reminds me of dykes in 2015 against utah on college game day. and 2019 against ASU. we were ranked both times and immediately fell out. this one is the same. just when we are about to gather some momentum…

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Utah was #5, this FSU team was 0-3, number 1 in the Bottom 10. There is no comparison.

This is more like Auburn last year or Notre Dame two years ago, an opportunity to beat a big name team when they are on the ropes, build some momentum and elevate the program.

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yea thats it. We didn't even lose to a good team. I think its all the calgorithm stuff getting us all this attention and the squandering of that opportunity that kills me

Strykur said:

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Tonight was bad but we have a bye week to correct some things going into a game where we were going to be pretty major dogs regardless, but if we come out versus Pitt looking as pathetic as tonight then we need to question everything about this regime

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We already have all the evidence we need to question this pathetic coaching regime. 8 years of abject failure says it all. Wilcox and his staff need to go!

How many of Otts carries were between the tackles?

Wilcox loses the Cheez-Itz games.

movielover said:

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How many of Otts carries were between the tackles?

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Most (maybe all) but he bounced a couple outside for good gains. Someone said we were trying to run a sweep, but the defense swarmed Ott in the backfield while he was waiting for our slow OL's to get out in front.

Cal may have averted the FSU Curse...courtesy of David Hale at ESPN.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/page/gamedayfinal092124/college-football-week-4-highlights-top-plays-games-takeaways-2024

"Trending up: Cal's future success

Cal fans spent the week tormenting Florida State on Twitter, promising to invade "Cal-ahassee" and send the Seminoles to a fourth straight loss to open the season, but FSU had other plans.

FSU prevailed Saturday 14-9, an overdue celebration for the beleaguered program even if the game film will now be used by the CIA to convince criminals to confess.

But it was, in a way, a win for Cal, too, because the only thing worse than losing to Florida State so far this season has been beating Florida State.

In Week Zero, Georgia Tech Bulldogs pulled off the upset. In the Jackets' next game against a Power 4 foe, it lost to Syracuse.

In Week 1, Boston College stunned FSU. In the Eagles next game against a Power 4 foe, it lost to Missouri.

Last week, Memphis appeared to gain the upper hand for the Group of 5's playoff bid by beating Florida State. And in Week 4, the Tigers lost to Navy.

But it goes deeper. After Syracuse beat Georgia Tech, the FSU curse was passed to the Orange, who then lost on Friday to Stanford. After Missouri beat BC, the Tigers inherited the stench of FSU, and nearly fell to Vanderbilt on Saturday, needing a shanked field goal try in overtime to prevail.

Beating Florida State is like watching the video in "The Ring." Once viewed, your fate is sealed, until the curse is passed on to someone else. It's almost as horrifying as watching DJ Uiagalelei try to throw a timing route.

So, kudos to Cal. It was a loss this week, but by destroying that VHS tape, the only thing that will haunt the Bears the rest of the season will be #FSUTwitter, which has a lot of pent up frustration to get off its chest."

BarcaBear said:

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Cal may have averted the FSU Curse...courtesy of David Hale at ESPN.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/page/gamedayfinal092124/college-football-week-4-highlights-top-plays-games-takeaways-2024

"Trending up: Cal's future success

Cal fans spent the week tormenting Florida State on Twitter, promising to invade "Cal-ahassee" and send the Seminoles to a fourth straight loss to open the season, but FSU had other plans.

FSU prevailed Saturday 14-9, an overdue celebration for the beleaguered program even if the game film will now be used by the CIA to convince criminals to confess.

But it was, in a way, a win for Cal, too, because the only thing worse than losing to Florida State so far this season has been beating Florida State.

In Week Zero, Georgia Tech Bulldogs pulled off the upset. In the Jackets' next game against a Power 4 foe, it lost to Syracuse.

In Week 1, Boston College stunned FSU. In the Eagles next game against a Power 4 foe, it lost to Missouri.

Last week, Memphis appeared to gain the upper hand for the Group of 5's playoff bid by beating Florida State. And in Week 4, the Tigers lost to Navy.

But it goes deeper. After Syracuse beat Georgia Tech, the FSU curse was passed to the Orange, who then lost on Friday to Stanford. After Missouri beat BC, the Tigers inherited the stench of FSU, and nearly fell to Vanderbilt on Saturday, needing a shanked field goal try in overtime to prevail.

Beating Florida State is like watching the video in "The Ring." Once viewed, your fate is sealed, until the curse is passed on to someone else. It's almost as horrifying as watching DJ Uiagalelei try to throw a timing route.

So, kudos to Cal. It was a loss this week, but by destroying that VHS tape, the only thing that will haunt the Bears the rest of the season will be #FSUTwitter, which has a lot of pent up frustration to get off its chest."

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Or maybe FSU is just so bad that mediocre teams beat them and then lose.

Besides, we have a bye next week.

Wilcox doesn't seem very passionate.

movielover said:

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Wilcox doesn't seem very passionate.

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I' ve never seen him so pissed off.

Oski87 said:

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movielover said:

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Wilcox doesn't seem very passionate.

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I' ve never seen him so pissed off.

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He should look in the mirror. He has no one to blame but himself.

He has been coach for 8 years. He is paid $5 million a year. He didn't even bother to do an OC search this time. The schemes should look at least as good as a high school's. Much like himself, his staff is filled with his friends holding jobs a level above their ability.

calumnus said:

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Oski87 said:

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movielover said:

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Wilcox doesn't seem very passionate.

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I' ve never seen him so pissed off.

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He should look in the mirror. He has no one to blame but himself.

He has been coach for 8 years. He is paid $5 million a year. He didn't even bother to do an OC search this time. The schemes should look at least as good as a high school's. Much like himself, his staff is filled with his friends holding jobs a level above their ability.

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That he didn't redirect some of his ridiculous salary to hire an actual OC and special teams coach is ridiculous. Why doesnt someone ask him that? Honestly he coached a crap game vs a terrible Auburn team and almost blew that one, too. We had a 5 turnover margin and it came down to the last play! This is all nuts. Also, I'd like to know what Baghani was run off. Was it donors who didn't like him? And what happened with Spav? Did Wilcox do him dirty? What the hell is going on with this shirt show?

TedfordTheGreat said:

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great. we waited 8 years to get an 8 win team in a watered down conference. by this trajectory we will get to 9 wins in 35 years! maybe even 10 wins when we get relegated to the mountain west!

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Do you honestly think Cal is in the same NIL/Money realm for football as Clemson/FSU/Miami? Heck I am pretty sure Louisville/NC State/NC/Va Tech invest at a higher rate but let's say Cal is the 5th most funded program in the ACC. The 5th best team probably wins 8 games most years give a take a win.

Yea Georgia tech beat FSU, but they also lost to Syracuse and Louisville. Memphis beat FSU, and then they allowed 56 to Navy. Va Tech already has 2 losses, Smu has looked good in 2 games so far and so on. Average to Above average teams lose games in the season.

People are praising Boston College but they have the same record as Cal at 3-1. That is just what I don't truly get is 8 wins in the ACC is a good year especially if you don't have a playoff-contending budget. And this is no shot at the Cal Legends group and Sebabear is doing a tremendous job with NIL, but it's a big leap in funding to go from average to title contenders.

Joegeo said:

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TedfordTheGreat said:

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great. we waited 8 years to get an 8 win team in a watered down conference. by this trajectory we will get to 9 wins in 35 years! maybe even 10 wins when we get relegated to the mountain west!

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Do you honestly think Cal is in the same NIL/Money realm for football as Clemson/FSU/Miami? Heck I am pretty sure Louisville/NC State/NC/Va Tech invest at a higher rate but let's say Cal is the 5th most funded program in the ACC. The 5th best team probably wins 8 games most years give a take a win.

Yea Georgia tech beat FSU, but they also lost to Syracuse and Louisville. Memphis beat FSU, and then they allowed 56 to Navy. Va Tech already has 2 losses, Smu has looked good in 2 games so far and so on. Average to Above average teams lose games in the season.

People are praising Boston College but they have the same record as Cal at 3-1. That is just what I don't truly get is 8 wins in the ACC is a good year especially if you don't have a playoff-contending budget. And this is no shot at the Cal Legends group and Sebabear is doing a tremendous job with NIL, but it's a big leap in funding to go from average to title contenders.

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Yes, it is a big leap. First you would have winning records. (We have only two under Wilcox, both prepandemic: 2018 and 2019.) Then going to a winning a minor bowl game. (Only once under Wilcox, 2019.) Then contending for a conference championship. (Not even close under Wilcox.)

Joegeo said:

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TedfordTheGreat said:

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great. we waited 8 years to get an 8 win team in a watered down conference. by this trajectory we will get to 9 wins in 35 years! maybe even 10 wins when we get relegated to the mountain west!

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Do you honestly think Cal is in the same NIL/Money realm for football as Clemson/FSU/Miami? Heck I am pretty sure Louisville/NC State/NC/Va Tech invest at a higher rate but let's say Cal is the 5th most funded program in the ACC. The 5th best team probably wins 8 games most years give a take a win.

Yea Georgia tech beat FSU, but they also lost to Syracuse and Louisville. Memphis beat FSU, and then they allowed 56 to Navy. Va Tech already has 2 losses, Smu has looked good in 2 games so far and so on. Average to Above average teams lose games in the season.

People are praising Boston College but they have the same record as Cal at 3-1. That is just what I don't truly get is 8 wins in the ACC is a good year especially if you don't have a playoff-contending budget. And this is no shot at the Cal Legends group and Sebabear is doing a tremendous job with NIL, but it's a big leap in funding to go from average to title contenders.

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nope never did i once say we are at the level of Clemson, FSU and Miami, but all we are asking for us to maybe compete for a conference title. (Not even winning, compete) Yet we are still building. You are right, huge leap to go from average to title contenders, but we haven't even taken a step forward in that direction.

8 years later, never once a winning record in conference (best is 4-5 multiple times). We are again off to a 0-1 start with 7 games left to play so 50/50 at best this year.

I think many posters here would be happy with a season like 2023 Louisville, or 2023 Arizona, or 2023 Kansas for gods sake, or 2022 TCU, or 2022 Tulane, or 2022 Oregon State. How about that list as our peer to aspire to?

Wilcox's has had 8 years and last night, more than ever, he showed again why he will never be the guy.

TedfordTheGreat said:

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ducky23 said:

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dimitrig said:

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LunchTime said:

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You don't get a ton of opportunities to catch good teams when they suck.

Cal beat Texas, Auburn, Oklahoma when they were terrible. Cal lost to a terrible FSU. Even holmoe thrashed USC when they were shart.

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We also blew a chance against Notre Dame.

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This did not feel at all like Notre dame. I've been following cal football for 40+ years. This has to be on my top 5 list of most devastating losses

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in the last 20 years.

rodgers 4th down
riley OSU
desean big toe
utah 2015
asu 2019

thuis feels worst than almost 1/2 of them (rodgers and riley OSU might be #1 and #2 because of the implications

this loss reminds me of dykes in 2015 against utah on college game day. and 2019 against ASU. we were ranked both times and immediately fell out. this one is the same. just when we are about to gather some momentum…

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Rodgers in 2004 was devastating in retrospect, TBH.

I remember leaving that game with two thoughts: what a ****ing game, and I guess Cal-USC will be a home team thing now. I didn't realize until December we lost the rose bowl. I didn't realize until 2005 that it was our season. I didn't realize until a decade later that it was the first in a decade long losing streak, and that every year people would be posting lockerroom hype videos from 2003.

OTOH, I was more clear about the toe, and OSU.

OSU and Texas Tech 2004 might be the two worst losses I have ever seen.

ducky23 said:

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TedfordTheGreat said:

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ducky23 said:

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dimitrig said:

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LunchTime said:

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You don't get a ton of opportunities to catch good teams when they suck.

Cal beat Texas, Auburn, Oklahoma when they were terrible. Cal lost to a terrible FSU. Even holmoe thrashed USC when they were shart.

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We also blew a chance against Notre Dame.

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This did not feel at all like Notre dame. I've been following cal football for 40+ years. This has to be on my top 5 list of most devastating losses

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in the last 20 years.

rodgers 4th down
riley OSU
desean big toe
utah 2015
asu 2019

thuis feels worst than almost 1/2 of them (rodgers and riley OSU might be #1 and #2 because of the implications

this loss reminds me of dykes in 2015 against utah on college game day. and 2019 against ASU. we were ranked both times and immediately fell out. this one is the same. just when we are about to gather some momentum…

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Pfff the Utah and ASU games were small potatoes (personally I never thought those teams were that good, so I didn't think the stakes were that high. I gave us almost zero chance of beating Utah at utah)

For me it's
- UW '91 (though that was different cause I gave the team a standing ovation after the game)
- Barnes fumble
- SC 04
- Arizona and the PI and toe
- Riley osu
- FSU

I honestly think this was the most high stakes game we've played since tedford

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Oh, 91 Washington was two Titans in a great game, just like USC 2004. Great football.

This was a mediocre team losing to a great program that was playing like garbage for 4 games.

If we win, we are just another team that whipped a floundering FSU. If we lose, we are the team that lost to a hapless FSU.

Joegeo said:

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TedfordTheGreat said:

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great. we waited 8 years to get an 8 win team in a watered down conference. by this trajectory we will get to 9 wins in 35 years! maybe even 10 wins when we get relegated to the mountain west!

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Do you honestly think Cal is in the same NIL/Money realm for football as Clemson/FSU/Miami? Heck I am pretty sure Louisville/NC State/NC/Va Tech invest at a higher rate but let's say Cal is the 5th most funded program in the ACC. The 5th best team probably wins 8 games most years give a take a win.

Yea Georgia tech beat FSU, but they also lost to Syracuse and Louisville. Memphis beat FSU, and then they allowed 56 to Navy. Va Tech already has 2 losses, Smu has looked good in 2 games so far and so on. Average to Above average teams lose games in the season.

People are praising Boston College but they have the same record as Cal at 3-1. That is just what I don't truly get is 8 wins in the ACC is a good year especially if you don't have a playoff-contending budget. And this is no shot at the Cal Legends group and Sebabear is doing a tremendous job with NIL, but it's a big leap in funding to go from average to title contenders.

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Boston College has a good head coach

LunchTime said:

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ducky23 said:

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TedfordTheGreat said:

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ducky23 said:

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dimitrig said:

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LunchTime said:

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You don't get a ton of opportunities to catch good teams when they suck.

Cal beat Texas, Auburn, Oklahoma when they were terrible. Cal lost to a terrible FSU. Even holmoe thrashed USC when they were shart.

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We also blew a chance against Notre Dame.

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This did not feel at all like Notre dame. I've been following cal football for 40+ years. This has to be on my top 5 list of most devastating losses

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in the last 20 years.

rodgers 4th down
riley OSU
desean big toe
utah 2015
asu 2019

thuis feels worst than almost 1/2 of them (rodgers and riley OSU might be #1 and #2 because of the implications

this loss reminds me of dykes in 2015 against utah on college game day. and 2019 against ASU. we were ranked both times and immediately fell out. this one is the same. just when we are about to gather some momentum…

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Pfff the Utah and ASU games were small potatoes (personally I never thought those teams were that good, so I didn't think the stakes were that high. I gave us almost zero chance of beating Utah at utah)

For me it's
- UW '91 (though that was different cause I gave the team a standing ovation after the game)
- Barnes fumble
- SC 04
- Arizona and the PI and toe
- Riley osu
- FSU

I honestly think this was the most high stakes game we've played since tedford

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Oh, 91 Washington was two Titans in a great game, just like USC 2004. Great football.

This was a mediocre team losing to a great program that was playing like garbage for 4 games.

If we win, we are just another team that whipped a floundering FSU. If we lose, we are the team that lost to a hapless FSU.

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Here's why it's important.

If we had beaten FSU, it means nothing to the rest of the college world.

But for our survival as a football program? It would've meant a lot.

Were Wilcox and his OC previously best buds?

ducky23 said:

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LunchTime said:

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ducky23 said:

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TedfordTheGreat said:

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ducky23 said:

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dimitrig said:

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LunchTime said:

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You don't get a ton of opportunities to catch good teams when they suck.

Cal beat Texas, Auburn, Oklahoma when they were terrible. Cal lost to a terrible FSU. Even holmoe thrashed USC when they were shart.

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We also blew a chance against Notre Dame.

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This did not feel at all like Notre dame. I've been following cal football for 40+ years. This has to be on my top 5 list of most devastating losses

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in the last 20 years.

rodgers 4th down
riley OSU
desean big toe
utah 2015
asu 2019

thuis feels worst than almost 1/2 of them (rodgers and riley OSU might be #1 and #2 because of the implications

this loss reminds me of dykes in 2015 against utah on college game day. and 2019 against ASU. we were ranked both times and immediately fell out. this one is the same. just when we are about to gather some momentum…

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Pfff the Utah and ASU games were small potatoes (personally I never thought those teams were that good, so I didn't think the stakes were that high. I gave us almost zero chance of beating Utah at utah)

For me it's
- UW '91 (though that was different cause I gave the team a standing ovation after the game)
- Barnes fumble
- SC 04
- Arizona and the PI and toe
- Riley osu
- FSU

I honestly think this was the most high stakes game we've played since tedford

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Oh, 91 Washington was two Titans in a great game, just like USC 2004. Great football.

This was a mediocre team losing to a great program that was playing like garbage for 4 games.

If we win, we are just another team that whipped a floundering FSU. If we lose, we are the team that lost to a hapless FSU.

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Here's why it's important.

If we had beaten FSU, it means nothing to the rest of the college world.

But for our survival as a football program? It would've meant a lot.

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In those terms I agree

movielover said:

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Were Wilcox and his OC previously best buds?

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Even if they were not Wilcox can never come out and say that he hired him because it helped the coaching budget. I don't know the ins and outs of the money you are allotted to build a coaching staff but it's no coincidence we suck on offense and especially now the OL and special teams and they both lack dedicated, skilled coaches. And it's costing us games.

I think you misread David Hale's piece. It's a joke.

movielover said:

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Were Wilcox and his OC previously best buds?

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Seems like that relationship developed last year. Pretty sure Spavital brought in Bloesch but (speculating here) over the season Wilcox gravitated towards Bloesch's more conservative personality and offensive style, so Spavital started looking and made a lateral move to Baylor.

In his interviews two of the things Spavital cited about what he likes about the Baylor job: 1) No meddling by the head coach, including personnel decisions, he is head coach of the offense, and 2) everyone in the room is on the same page.

calumnus said:

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movielover said:

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Were Wilcox and his OC previously best buds?

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Seems like that relationship developed last year. Pretty sure Spavital brought in Bloesch but (speculating here) over the season Wilcox gravitated towards Bloesch's more conservative personality and offensive style, so Spavital started looking and made a lateral move to Baylor.

In his interviews two of the things Spavital cited about what he likes about the Baylor job: 1) No meddling by the head coach, including personnel decisions, he is head coach of the offense, and 2) everyone in the room is on the same page.

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It's Wilcox's offense.

calumnus said:

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movielover said:

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Were Wilcox and his OC previously best buds?

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Seems like that relationship developed last year. Pretty sure Spavital brought in Bloesch but (speculating here) over the season Wilcox gravitated towards Bloesch's more conservative personality and offensive style, so Spavital started looking and made a lateral move to Baylor.

In his interviews two of the things Spavital cited about what he likes about the Baylor job: 1) No meddling by the head coach, including personnel decisions, he is head coach of the offense, and 2) everyone in the room is on the same page.

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Did he really say that? That's crazy

To be fair, Sam Jackson was a mistake. But overall, our offense looked a lot better end of last year with spav presumably handling the offense and bloesch handling the oline

I doubt we lose yesterday if spav were still around

ducky23 said:

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calumnus said:

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movielover said:

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Were Wilcox and his OC previously best buds?

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Seems like that relationship developed last year. Pretty sure Spavital brought in Bloesch but (speculating here) over the season Wilcox gravitated towards Bloesch's more conservative personality and offensive style, so Spavital started looking and made a lateral move to Baylor.

In his interviews two of the things Spavital cited about what he likes about the Baylor job: 1) No meddling by the head coach, including personnel decisions, he is head coach of the offense, and 2) everyone in the room is on the same page.

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Did he really say that? That's crazy

To be fair, Sam Jackson was a mistake. But overall, our offense looked a lot better end of last year with spav presumably handling the offense and bloesch handling the oline

I doubt we lose yesterday if spav were still around

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Pretty soon Spavital will have a say on everything since Aranda's defensive play calls cost them dearly in Boulder last night.

ducky23 said:

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Whenever we run motion, something always looks off. I'm sorry but that's coaching.

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This ^^^