Rodgers' next move

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okaydo
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New York Jets demanded that Rodgers stop going on The Pat McAfee Show.
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bear2034 said:

Chiefs. Mahomes is cooked.

He had an excuse

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BearGoggles said:

The Oakland Rahdahs! Colts makes some sense too.



Do the Raiders have a decent OL?



Looks like the Vikes Colts, 9ers, Cowboys are all good candidates. The Raiders with the Carroll factor are up there too. Ironically, as does Green Bay.

That table also tells you that the Jets were a terrible fit for Rodgers.
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Cal88 said:

bear2034 said:

Chiefs. Mahomes is cooked.
He had an excuse




There is a spiritual war that is being waged unbeknownst to many.
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Cal88 said:

BearGoggles said:

The Oakland Rahdahs! Colts makes some sense too.



Do the Raiders have a decent OL?



Looks like the Vikes Colts, 9ers, Cowboys are all good candidates. The Raiders with the Carroll factor are up there too. Ironically, as does Green Bay.

That table also tells you that the Jets were a terrible fit for Rodgers.
I don't see AR going to a team where he's the deemed backup. I think he'd rather retire. So that would eliminate the 49ers, Cowboys and Green Bay. This is based entirely on my speculation, so FWIW.
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Bobodeluxe said:

The UC Berkeley Bears need an experienced qb, and he does have one year of eligibility remaining.
Berkeley Inspire Bears to you.
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KoreAmBear said:

Bobodeluxe said:

The UC Berkeley Bears need an experienced qb, and he does have one year of eligibility remaining.
Berkeley Inspire Bears to you.

Rodgers went to JC so he likely has two.
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BearoutEast67 said:

I predict he'll have a stellar season this year. And I hope it'll be with the Jacksonville Jaguars! His old bones would love the heat and humidity of Florida.


I agree that for his injury, year 2, 2025, is the window for him to play like the Rodgers of old. Would love to see that. Where? Wherever!
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BearGoggles said:

Cal88 said:

BearGoggles said:

The Oakland Rahdahs! Colts makes some sense too.



Do the Raiders have a decent OL?



Looks like the Vikes Colts, 9ers, Cowboys are all good candidates. The Raiders with the Carroll factor are up there too. Ironically, as does Green Bay.

That table also tells you that the Jets were a terrible fit for Rodgers.
I don't see AR going to a team where he's the deemed backup. I think he'd rather retire. So that would eliminate the 49ers, Cowboys and Green Bay. This is based entirely on my speculation, so FWIW.


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Cal_79 said:

KoreAmBear said:

Bobodeluxe said:

The UC Berkeley Bears need an experienced qb, and he does have one year of eligibility remaining.
Berkeley Inspire Bears to you.

Rodgers went to JC so he likely has two.


Players now have 5, so he has 3. Alternatively, eligibility is a a legal fiction and he can return and play as long as he wants.
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Cal88
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BearGoggles said:

Cal88 said:

BearGoggles said:

The Oakland Rahdahs! Colts makes some sense too.



Do the Raiders have a decent OL?



Looks like the Vikes Colts, 9ers, Cowboys are all good candidates. The Raiders with the Carroll factor are up there too. Ironically, as does Green Bay.

That table also tells you that the Jets were a terrible fit for Rodgers.
I don't see AR going to a team where he's the deemed backup. I think he'd rather retire. So that would eliminate the 49ers, Cowboys and Green Bay. This is based entirely on my speculation, so FWIW.

You see Rodgers as a backup to Dak Prescott, Flacco or Purdy??
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Cal88 said:

BearGoggles said:

Cal88 said:

BearGoggles said:

The Oakland Rahdahs! Colts makes some sense too.



Do the Raiders have a decent OL?



Looks like the Vikes Colts, 9ers, Cowboys are all good candidates. The Raiders with the Carroll factor are up there too. Ironically, as does Green Bay.

That table also tells you that the Jets were a terrible fit for Rodgers.
I don't see AR going to a team where he's the deemed backup. I think he'd rather retire. So that would eliminate the 49ers, Cowboys and Green Bay. This is based entirely on my speculation, so FWIW.

You see Rodgers as a backup to Dak Prescott, Flacco or Purdy??
It is not a question of how I see him compared to those players and I said nothing about the Colts/Flacco. Assuming Purdy is resigned (which reportedly is imminent), the 49rs, Cowboys and GB have made huge commitments to their existing qbs - Purdy, Dak and Jordan Love.

I only see AR being an option if one of those players is not brought back (e.g., Purdy doesn't resign) or traded. That strikes me as very unlikely.

It seems like the Colts would be an obvious landing spot for AR depending how they feel about Anthony Richardson. That being said, ESPN is reporting that the Colts are not looking at AR.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/43798483/nfl-colts-anthony-richardson-justin-fields-jameis-winston
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okaydo said:

Rodgers will play for the Raiders. Reunite with Pete Carroll. You heard it here first.


Carroll will have learned his lesson from that Super Bowl and will run the ball on the goal line with a third string backup RB rather than let Rodgers cook.
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Rodgers next move is to not get the covid vaccine
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Johnfox said:

Rodgers next move is to not get the covid vaccine


Go back to Butte college
Bring back It’s It’s to Haas Pavillion!
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Ambassador to The State of Jefferson?
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singalong edition "dont cry for He argentina", as of jan 1st 2025..
https://parade.com/celebrities/aaron-rodgers-net-worth
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Assistant Secretary of Health and Human Services?
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Dispensary owner/operator. Complimentary autographed memorabilia for 6 figure orders.
Cancel my subscription to the Resurrection
Send my credentials to the House of Detention
I got some friends inside
“98 yards with my boys” Yeah, sure.
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CALiforniALUM said:

Why does Rodgers have to be such a complicated person? I want to like him but I don't agree with many things he espouses.


You don't have to agree with someone in order to like them.
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AXLBear said:

CALiforniALUM said:

Why does Rodgers have to be such a complicated person? I want to like him but I don't agree with many things he espouses.


You don't have to agree with someone in order to like them.
I like him when he donates to Cal...otherwise, it's all perception. Well, I suppose some posters have met him.
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So the 9ers have issues with Purdy's signing, and are mentioning veteran pro bowler...Falcons backup Kirk Cousins as a replacement?!?

49ers could hit 'impasse' with Brock Purdy, replace him with $180M ex-Pro Bowler
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Cal88 said:

So the 9ers have issues with Purdy's signing, and are mentioning veteran pro bowler...Falcons backup Kirk Cousins as a replacement?!?

49ers could hit 'impasse' with Brock Purdy, replace him with $180M ex-Pro Bowler
This is all speculation and click bait. They already said they want him back and are negotiating a deal. Of course he wants as much as he can get and they want to pay him as little as possible. If this was leaked by the team it is just to put pressure on. There is no way Cousins is getting the keys to the 49ers. He is pretty much done. Purdy is the best of a bunch of mediocre QBs that the 49ers have had in the past 20 years.
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Oski87 said:

Cal88 said:

So the 9ers have issues with Purdy's signing, and are mentioning veteran pro bowler...Falcons backup Kirk Cousins as a replacement?!?

49ers could hit 'impasse' with Brock Purdy, replace him with $180M ex-Pro Bowler
This is all speculation and click bait. They already said they want him back and are negotiating a deal. Of course he wants as much as he can get and they want to pay him as little as possible. If this was leaked by the team it is just to put pressure on. There is no way Cousins is getting the keys to the 49ers. He is pretty much done. Purdy is the best of a bunch of mediocre QBs that the 49ers have had in the past 20 years.
This. And if it is a leak it's pretty transparent.

I guess it could always be possible that the 49ers are about to do something massively stupid a la the Mavs and Luka Doncic, but I wouldn't put money on it.
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Oski87 said:

Cal88 said:

So the 9ers have issues with Purdy's signing, and are mentioning veteran pro bowler...Falcons backup Kirk Cousins as a replacement?!?

49ers could hit 'impasse' with Brock Purdy, replace him with $180M ex-Pro Bowler
This is all speculation and click bait. They already said they want him back and are negotiating a deal. Of course he wants as much as he can get and they want to pay him as little as possible. If this was leaked by the team it is just to put pressure on. There is no way Cousins is getting the keys to the 49ers. He is pretty much done. Purdy is the best of a bunch of mediocre QBs that the 49ers have had in the past 20 years.
If that's the attitude, then they already lost. That is so much more prevalent in other sports than the NFL, and the hard salary cap. You pay the QB's that are good, and work hard at figuring out the salary cap around that. Clearly why the Eagles are the World Champions, by doing exactly that....and as an Eagles fan who was most worried about the Niners going into the season, then yes, please mess up the Purdy negotiations....
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From today's Onion:

"NEW YORKLeaping at the opportunity to make their intentions clear, numerous NFL front offices expressed interest this week in quarterback Aaron Rodgers playing elsewhere, sources confirmed Tuesday. "Aaron Rodgers feels like he could be a great fit for the culture of other places," said an anonymous NFC general manager among the flurry of teams across the NFL frantically stating their commitment to keeping Rodgers off their roster. "We immediately reached out to his agent to improve our chances of keeping Aaron Rodgers as far away as possible from our franchise. This puts us in a much better position than many of the other teams in the league who now risk acquiring the former Jets quarterback because they waited too long to make an insultingly low salary offer or mock his weird beliefs and idiotic conspiracy theories." At press time, several NFL teams reportedly entered a bidding war offering high draft picks to any franchise willing to suffer Aaron Rodgers."
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ColoradoBear said:

BearGoggles said:

ColoradoBear said:

Cal88 said:

ColoradoBear said:

The bad news on this is it could drag on quite a while as there are no incentives for the jets to just release Rodgers quickly. His 2025 salary doesn't get guaranteed until the start of the regular season but the jets can just sit around and wait until they get some kind of offer. There is no monetary or cap difference to the jets if they act now, in June, or the day before the season starts.

It's also not in Rodgers' interest to retire because they Jets would hold his rights if he ever wanted to come back.

And then any team trading for Rodgers could be on the hook for $35 million in 2025. And Rodgers has a no trade clause.

Perhaps a deal can be worked out for a low round draft pick + salary renegotiation to spread out the 2025 salary before the draft. But again that would require a team to agree to paying Rodgers at that 35 million at some point.


Why would the Jets waste $35 million blocking Rodgers from joining another team when they don't even want him?? They don't have much leverage here.


They aren't wasting anything - their contact decision date is literally the first day of the regular season. Hold him til then and cutting 1 day prior is the same 'zero' cost as cutting him now. The dead cap money also doesn't change because that is all money already paid to him.
Why would they do this? Just to screw AR? Why would a new GM/coach want to mistreat a respected veteran and future Hall of Famer in that way? If they did, they would immediately alienate at least some existing players, not to mention potential free agents they want to sign. Again, why?

The entire purpose of the recent meeting was to be clearly communicate intentions so that both sides could have clarity and plan accordingly. The Jets want to move on which makes sense - AR even said that. Why would they drag this out for no real reason?


Because they can get draft pick?
Pretty much this. I mean if the team faces NO penalty for releasing him today vs 6 months from now, it at least makes sense to see how some of the other off-season QB questions play out (Darnold, Cousins, Winston just to name a few vets) to see if someone is willing to part with a draft pick - even if its just a 5th or 6th rounder.

In theory, they could also keep him through the pre-season in case someone's projected starter gets injured and then really needs to make a deal - but at that point, not sure having him around "doing nothing" for the possibility of getting a low pick is worth the potential distraction to a team with new HC and direction.

But certainly, seeing how things shake out in the NFL QB carousel before training camp starts to see if there is a potential draft pick out there makes a ton of sense.
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mbBear said:

Oski87 said:

Cal88 said:

So the 9ers have issues with Purdy's signing, and are mentioning veteran pro bowler...Falcons backup Kirk Cousins as a replacement?!?

49ers could hit 'impasse' with Brock Purdy, replace him with $180M ex-Pro Bowler
This is all speculation and click bait. They already said they want him back and are negotiating a deal. Of course he wants as much as he can get and they want to pay him as little as possible. If this was leaked by the team it is just to put pressure on. There is no way Cousins is getting the keys to the 49ers. He is pretty much done. Purdy is the best of a bunch of mediocre QBs that the 49ers have had in the past 20 years.
If that's the attitude, then they already lost. That is so much more prevalent in other sports than the NFL, and the hard salary cap. You pay the QB's that are good, and work hard at figuring out the salary cap around that. Clearly why the Eagles are the World Champions, by doing exactly that....and as an Eagles fan who was most worried about the Niners going into the season, then yes, please mess up the Purdy negotiations....
I think the biggest question is precisely how good Purdy is. If the 49ers think he is truly franchise level and has proven that beyond a doubt, then he's going to be looking at something in the 50MM+ per year range (that's roughly top 10 in the QB world).

Personally, I think this past season had to at least make the 49ers ask themselves if he is at that elite level that makes everyone around him better as well.

Middle range salaries (say #15-18) include names like Stafford, Rodgers, Carr and Mayfield. That puts him in the 35-40MM range.

If he and his agent are really looking for something that is close to market setting, I would be surprised if the 49ers would do a long term deal in the 55MM+ range - like a 5 year, 275MM with, say 180MM guaranteed.

I think something in the 40MM+ range (maybe 170MM, 4 years, 130MM guaranteed) seems pretty fair. Its not a great QB year, both in the draft or in free agency - so that probably bodes well for a proven commodity like Purdy. But me personally, I don't see him as a market setting QB, yet.
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Hail2Calif said:

mbBear said:

Oski87 said:

Cal88 said:

So the 9ers have issues with Purdy's signing, and are mentioning veteran pro bowler...Falcons backup Kirk Cousins as a replacement?!?

49ers could hit 'impasse' with Brock Purdy, replace him with $180M ex-Pro Bowler
This is all speculation and click bait. They already said they want him back and are negotiating a deal. Of course he wants as much as he can get and they want to pay him as little as possible. If this was leaked by the team it is just to put pressure on. There is no way Cousins is getting the keys to the 49ers. He is pretty much done. Purdy is the best of a bunch of mediocre QBs that the 49ers have had in the past 20 years.
If that's the attitude, then they already lost. That is so much more prevalent in other sports than the NFL, and the hard salary cap. You pay the QB's that are good, and work hard at figuring out the salary cap around that. Clearly why the Eagles are the World Champions, by doing exactly that....and as an Eagles fan who was most worried about the Niners going into the season, then yes, please mess up the Purdy negotiations....
I think the biggest question is precisely how good Purdy is. If the 49ers think he is truly franchise level and has proven that beyond a doubt, then he's going to be looking at something in the 50MM+ per year range (that's roughly top 10 in the QB world).

Personally, I think this past season had to at least make the 49ers ask themselves if he is at that elite level that makes everyone around him better as well.

Middle range salaries (say #15-18) include names like Stafford, Rodgers, Carr and Mayfield. That puts him in the 35-40MM range.

If he and his agent are really looking for something that is close to market setting, I would be surprised if the 49ers would do a long term deal in the 55MM+ range - like a 5 year, 275MM with, say 180MM guaranteed.

I think something in the 40MM+ range (maybe 170MM, 4 years, 130MM guaranteed) seems pretty fair. Its not a great QB year, both in the draft or in free agency - so that probably bodes well for a proven commodity like Purdy. But me personally, I don't see him as a market setting QB, yet.
Sounds messy...love it.
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Hail2Calif said:

mbBear said:

Oski87 said:

Cal88 said:

So the 9ers have issues with Purdy's signing, and are mentioning veteran pro bowler...Falcons backup Kirk Cousins as a replacement?!?

49ers could hit 'impasse' with Brock Purdy, replace him with $180M ex-Pro Bowler
This is all speculation and click bait. They already said they want him back and are negotiating a deal. Of course he wants as much as he can get and they want to pay him as little as possible. If this was leaked by the team it is just to put pressure on. There is no way Cousins is getting the keys to the 49ers. He is pretty much done. Purdy is the best of a bunch of mediocre QBs that the 49ers have had in the past 20 years.
If that's the attitude, then they already lost. That is so much more prevalent in other sports than the NFL, and the hard salary cap. You pay the QB's that are good, and work hard at figuring out the salary cap around that. Clearly why the Eagles are the World Champions, by doing exactly that....and as an Eagles fan who was most worried about the Niners going into the season, then yes, please mess up the Purdy negotiations....
I think the biggest question is precisely how good Purdy is. If the 49ers think he is truly franchise level and has proven that beyond a doubt, then he's going to be looking at something in the 50MM+ per year range (that's roughly top 10 in the QB world).

Personally, I think this past season had to at least make the 49ers ask themselves if he is at that elite level that makes everyone around him better as well.

Middle range salaries (say #15-18) include names like Stafford, Rodgers, Carr and Mayfield. That puts him in the 35-40MM range.

If he and his agent are really looking for something that is close to market setting, I would be surprised if the 49ers would do a long term deal in the 55MM+ range - like a 5 year, 275MM with, say 180MM guaranteed.

I think something in the 40MM+ range (maybe 170MM, 4 years, 130MM guaranteed) seems pretty fair. Its not a great QB year, both in the draft or in free agency - so that probably bodes well for a proven commodity like Purdy. But me personally, I don't see him as a market setting QB, yet.
I bet 50 million per year for 6 years average with huge signing bonus and 150 million guaranteed. Something like a 75 million signing bonus and then 25 million per year increasing by 5 million per year over the course of the contract.
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Where did you find this data ? I'm wondering how other positions did
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