R.I.P. Derek Carr's 2022 Football Season.

QBR: 69.1

22 for 37 for 295 yards
3 INT's and 2 Fumbles

PS. The Raiders O-Line is a joke.

KEN STARR IST TODT.



Ken Starr, investigator who probed Clinton administration, dies at 76 (yahoo.com)

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DiabloWags said:

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KEN STARR IST TODT.



Ken Starr, investigator who probed Clinton administration, dies at 76 (yahoo.com)

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He missed his calling….as a writer of salty romance novels. His report simply got way too into it for Starr not to be a freak.

Excerpts From Narrative Section of Starr Report - Los Angeles Times


https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1998-sep-12-ss-23060-story.html

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Lest we forget, Brett "I love BEER" Kavanaugh was part of the small braintrust that decided to include all of those details in the report. So maybe your dream of romance novels written by a conservative lawyer survives.

I have not thought about that song for years but remember it as a child. Thanks for the reminder. I just added it to my Jazz playlist. If you could only own one Jazz album, this would be it:



If it was a Rock band they would have called it a supergroup. The best of the best: Miles Davis, John Coltrane, Cannonball Adderly, Bill Evans and Jimmy Cobb. Duane Allman played the groves off this album and was deeply influenced by it. Listen to this album a few times and it will haunt your life forever.

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I have not thought about that song for years but remember it as a child. Thanks for the reminder. I just added it to my Jazz playlist. If you could only own one Jazz album, this would be it:



If it was a Rock band they would have called it a supergroup. The best of the best: Miles Davis, John Coltrane, Cannonball Adderly, Bill Evans and Jimmy Cobb. Duane Allman played the groves off this album and was deeply influenced by it. Listen to this album a few times and it will haunt your life forever.

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When I was a teenager 30 years ago, I read a guitar magazine interview with Flea. He mentioned this album and said that it blew him away. So I bought it, and it blew me away.

I’ve listened to this album more than any other https://t.co/tPZP0LR497

— Flea (@flea333) October 1, 2019

As a former Trumpet player who watched Doc Severinsen on Johnny Carson, thank you for this!

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As a former Trumpet player who watched Doc Severinson on Johnny Carson, thank you for this!

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Doc Severinsen: Hangin' in there at 95! Only recently stopped performing publicly on trumpet. (Okay, bad luck to mention him in this thread, but I don't believe in jinxes.)

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As a former Trumpet player who watched Doc Severinson on Johnny Carson, thank you for this!

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Doc Severinsen: Hangin' in there at 95! Only recently stopped performing publicly on trumpet. (Okay, bad luck to mention him in this thread, but I don't believe in jinxes.)

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It's only a matter of time until you have indeed jinxed him, and then it'll be all your fault.
Good job, Big C!
Nice going!

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At 89? Amazing!!!

I'd have actually posted this on the Jen Starr thread, but I'm still the most recent post there, and I can't post again in succession lest I be labeled a spammer.

That said, reading this, I feel no sadness for Starr's passing. What did he accomplish, other than what Clinton said, destroying innocents?

NEW YORK (AP) Monica Lewinsky had a tempered, compassionate response to the death of Ken Starr, the former independent counsel whose investigation of Bill Clinton helped reveal her affair with the president and, she once wrote, made her life a "living hell."

"As I'm sure many can understand, my thoughts about ken starr bring up complicated feelings," she tweeted Tuesday after reports that Starr had died at age 76. "But of more importance, is that i imagine it's a painful loss for those who love him."

Lewinsky was a White House intern in the mid-1990s, in her early 20s, when she began a relationship with Clinton, one that Starr would document in exhaustive, explicit detail. Starr had initially been retained to look into an Arkansas real estate deal Bill and Hillary Clinton were involved in, but his investigation shifted after he learned of allegations about the president's private behavior. Lewinsky denied their affair in a sworn affidavit, but did not know that her former colleague, Linda Tripp, had been taping their phone conversations about Bill Clinton and would turn them over to Starr.

Lewinsky would recall with horror being interrogated for hours in 1998 by Starr's prosecutors but not Starr himself and threatened with prison if she didn't cooperate with their investigation, a demand she initially refused. Months later, she agreed to testify about the affair, and turned over to prosecutors a dress stained with the president's semen, in return for immunity.

Lewinsky later wrote that she was diagnosed with "post-traumatic stress disorder, mainly from the ordeal of having been publicly outed and ostracized," and was for years subjected to crude jokes. But starting with a Vanity Fair essay in 2014 and a TED talk she gave in 2015 on "The Price of Shame," she has become a widely respected anti-bullying activist. David Letterman and John Oliver are among those who have apologized for once mocking her.

Writing in Vanity Fair in 2018, Lewinsky remembered finally encountering Starr in person, at a Greenwich Village restaurant the previous Christmas Eve. Starr stepped forward with a "warm, incongruous smile," and introduced himself to Lewinsky, who was dining with her family.

"Ken Starr asked me several times if I was 'doing O.K.' A stranger might have surmised from his tone that he had actually worried about me over the years. His demeanor, almost pastoral, was somewhere between avuncular and creepy. He kept touching my arm and elbow, which made me uncomfortable," she wrote.

"I turned and introduced him to my family. Bizarre as it may sound, I felt determined, then and there, to remind him that, 20 years before, he and his team of prosecutors hadn't hounded and terrorized just me but also my family threatening to prosecute my mom (if she didn't disclose the private confidences I had shared with her), hinting that they would investigate my dad's medical practice, and even deposing my aunt, with whom I was eating dinner that night."

Starr would write about Lewinsky in his 2018 memoir "Contempt," describing how "Monica screamed, she cried, she pouted, and complained bitterly about her scheming, no-good, so-called friend (Tripp)." But their threats, and the urging of Lewinsky's mother to accept the prosecutors' terms, did not change her mind.

"Monica overruled her mother. She would fall on her sword rather than implicate the president of the United States," Starr wrote. "It was becoming increasingly clear: in thinking she was a naive, starstruck young woman in love who would quickly cooperate, we underestimated her. In her determination to protect the president, Monica kept a team of experienced FBI agents and career prosecutors twiddling their thumbs for much of the day."

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I'd have actually posted this on the Jen Starr thread, but I'm still the most recent post there, and I can't post again in succession lest I be labeled a spammer.

That said, reading this, I feel no sadness for Starr's passing. What did he accomplish, other than what Clinton said, destroying innocents?

NEW YORK (AP) Monica Lewinsky had a tempered, compassionate response to the death of Ken Starr, the former independent counsel whose investigation of Bill Clinton helped reveal her affair with the president and, she once wrote, made her life a "living hell."

"As I'm sure many can understand, my thoughts about ken starr bring up complicated feelings," she tweeted Tuesday after reports that Starr had died at age 76. "But of more importance, is that i imagine it's a painful loss for those who love him."

Lewinsky was a White House intern in the mid-1990s, in her early 20s, when she began a relationship with Clinton, one that Starr would document in exhaustive, explicit detail. Starr had initially been retained to look into an Arkansas real estate deal Bill and Hillary Clinton were involved in, but his investigation shifted after he learned of allegations about the president's private behavior. Lewinsky denied their affair in a sworn affidavit, but did not know that her former colleague, Linda Tripp, had been taping their phone conversations about Bill Clinton and would turn them over to Starr.

Lewinsky would recall with horror being interrogated for hours in 1998 by Starr's prosecutors but not Starr himself and threatened with prison if she didn't cooperate with their investigation, a demand she initially refused. Months later, she agreed to testify about the affair, and turned over to prosecutors a dress stained with the president's semen, in return for immunity.

Lewinsky later wrote that she was diagnosed with "post-traumatic stress disorder, mainly from the ordeal of having been publicly outed and ostracized," and was for years subjected to crude jokes. But starting with a Vanity Fair essay in 2014 and a TED talk she gave in 2015 on "The Price of Shame," she has become a widely respected anti-bullying activist. David Letterman and John Oliver are among those who have apologized for once mocking her.

Writing in Vanity Fair in 2018, Lewinsky remembered finally encountering Starr in person, at a Greenwich Village restaurant the previous Christmas Eve. Starr stepped forward with a "warm, incongruous smile," and introduced himself to Lewinsky, who was dining with her family.

"Ken Starr asked me several times if I was 'doing O.K.' A stranger might have surmised from his tone that he had actually worried about me over the years. His demeanor, almost pastoral, was somewhere between avuncular and creepy. He kept touching my arm and elbow, which made me uncomfortable," she wrote.

"I turned and introduced him to my family. Bizarre as it may sound, I felt determined, then and there, to remind him that, 20 years before, he and his team of prosecutors hadn't hounded and terrorized just me but also my family threatening to prosecute my mom (if she didn't disclose the private confidences I had shared with her), hinting that they would investigate my dad's medical practice, and even deposing my aunt, with whom I was eating dinner that night."

Starr would write about Lewinsky in his 2018 memoir "Contempt," describing how "Monica screamed, she cried, she pouted, and complained bitterly about her scheming, no-good, so-called friend (Tripp)." But their threats, and the urging of Lewinsky's mother to accept the prosecutors' terms, did not change her mind.

"Monica overruled her mother. She would fall on her sword rather than implicate the president of the United States," Starr wrote. "It was becoming increasingly clear: in thinking she was a naive, starstruck young woman in love who would quickly cooperate, we underestimated her. In her determination to protect the president, Monica kept a team of experienced FBI agents and career prosecutors twiddling their thumbs for much of the day."

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Starr was world class scum and it is better that he is not around anymore

On Monday at 1:15 p.m., a rapper named PnB Rock (who I had never heard of) was dining at a Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles Restaurant in South L.A. when he was robbed and shot.

Within minutes, video of him bloody and lying on the floor and moving his arms and legs and fingers as the restaurant staff stood by appeared on Twitter.

Hours later, it was revealed he was pronounced 45 minutes after the shooting.

Anyways, I keep watching the video. I have it "liked" on my Twitter. Why do I keep watching it? What's wrong with me? I also viewed his last Twitter video, posted shortly before his death, multiple times.

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As a former Trumpet player who watched Doc Severinson on Johnny Carson, thank you for this!

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Doc Severinsen: Hangin' in there at 95! Only recently stopped performing publicly on trumpet. (Okay, bad luck to mention him in this thread, but I don't believe in jinxes.)

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It's only a matter of time until you have indeed jinxed him, and then it'll be all your fault.
Good job, Big C!
Nice going!

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Well, half of it will be your fault, ConcordTom, being the founder and Lifetime Czar of this thread.

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On Monday at 1:15 p.m., a rapper named PnB Rock (who I had never heard of) was dining at a Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles Restaurant in South L.A. when he was robbed and shot.

Within minutes, video of him bloody and lying on the floor and moving his arms and legs and fingers as the restaurant staff stood by appeared on Twitter.

Hours later, it was revealed he was pronounced 45 minutes after the shooting.

Anyways, I keep watching the video. I have it "liked" on my Twitter. Why do I keep watching it? What's wrong with me? I also viewed his last Twitter video, posted shortly before his death, multiple times.

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Is that on Flower St? I'm pretty sure I've eaten there before

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ConcordTom's gonna be furious at me for continuing to talk about the living on this thread, but here's a little third-hand personal story about Doc which might be mildly interesting and also illustrates the dedication of many professional musicians...

Guy I used to know was in the music biz and knew a guy who played with Doc making a commercial. If you've ever seen a commercial being filmed (well, decades ago, anyway), there can be a lot of slack time. So Doc's sitting there with nothing to do and so he asks if there's a trailer or something where he can go practice. Which he then did, for hours. Turns out that, even after already working his way to the very heights of his profession, Doc used to practice* about four hours a day... just to stay even with himself.


* and that's individual practice (probably six days a week)... in addition to any other playing he might do on any given day

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ConcordTom's gonna be furious at me for continuing to talk about the living on this thread, but here's a little third-hand personal story about Doc which might be mildly interesting and also illustrates the dedication of many professional musicians...

Guy I used to know was in the music biz and knew a guy who played with Doc making a commercial. If you've ever seen a commercial being filmed (well, decades ago, anyway), there can be a lot of slack time. So Doc's sitting there with nothing to do and so he asks if there's a trailer or something where he can go practice. Which he then did, for hours. Turns out that, even after already working his way to the very heights of his profession, Doc used to practice about four hours a day... just to stay even with himself.

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I learned a long time ago that not only must you be blessed with a fair amount of physical talents to reach the top of a profession that requires physical skill, you also need to be blessed with a fair amount of mental discipline to be able to practice an ungodly amount of time.

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On Monday at 1:15 p.m., a rapper named PnB Rock (who I had never heard of) was dining at a Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles Restaurant in South L.A. when he was robbed and shot.

Within minutes, video of him bloody and lying on the floor and moving his arms and legs and fingers as the restaurant staff stood by appeared on Twitter.

Hours later, it was revealed he was pronounced 45 minutes after the shooting.

Anyways, I keep watching the video. I have it "liked" on my Twitter. Why do I keep watching it? What's wrong with me? I also viewed his last Twitter video, posted shortly before his death, multiple times.

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Is that on Flower St? I'm pretty sure I've eaten there before

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Main and Manchester.

The Los Angeles Times' food editor/former Daily Cal editor in chief Daniel Hernandez, ate their 1 day after the killing and wrote about it.

The South L.A. location of the famed chain is an essential restaurant for those in the area, but it was desolate in the aftermath of violence https://t.co/5MDOfzqQcE

— Los Angeles Times (@latimes) September 14, 2022

Malcolm Gladwell's 10,000 hours rule. Think of the ingenious song writers, lyricists, singers and musicians of the old days that were fabulously talented, perfectionists and put in thousands of hours getting to the highest level and staying there.

Today, how in God's name do the corporations decide who to back in the music industry when everyone seems equally talentless? I suppose it is the look and the swagger because the consuming public wouldn't even recognize or appreciate true talent.

It literally takes me 30 seconds to watch and listen to a music act on SNL or the Tonight Show to make the determination that it is valueless crap.

Who no longer cares about sports.
Aren't you the one who said that?

Maybe you'll take up bass fishing, bonsai, or social media posting.

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Who no longer cares about sports.
Aren't you the one who said that?

Maybe you'll take up bass fishing, bonsai, or social media posting.

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Bike rides, selling stock options and long walks in SF with my wife. Oh yah, and furniture making. But that seems like it's going the way of sports. I need a testosterone check.

Here's to all your endeavors!!!

And mine, too!

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/keep-moving-10000-steps-a-day-may-halve-dementia-risk#How-did-the-study-proceed?

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Here's to all your endeavors!!!

And mine, too!

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/keep-moving-10000-steps-a-day-may-halve-dementia-risk#How-did-the-study-proceed?

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I move a lot, way more than 10,000 steps on our walks and more on my bike and I'm about ready to talk with my doctor about my failing memory. After two surgeries in 2020 I've got some weird memory things going on. Happy and healthy though so we'll see.

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Malcolm Gladwell's 10,000 hours rule. Think of the ingenious song writers, lyricists, singers and musicians of the old days that were fabulously talented, perfectionists and put in thousands of hours getting to the highest level and staying there.

Today, how in God's name do the corporations decide who to back in the music industry when everyone seems equally talentless? I suppose it is the look and the swagger because the consuming public wouldn't even recognize or appreciate true talent.

It literally takes me 30 seconds to watch and listen to a music act on SNL or the Tonight Show to make the determination that it is valueless crap.

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I've told my golf story many times...I was pretty good at golf at a fairly young age. I read that the top golfers routinely hit 500 balls per day in addition to playing holes. I grabbed my shag bag and went out to a little practice area at Lincoln Park in SF (8 iron max). I got through 250 balls and called it quits. It was too much like work for my young teenage mind. And that is why I'm a retired IT System Analyst and not a retired pro golfer.

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I know that practice fairway at Lincoln Park. It took me hitting thousands of balls there, before I realized I'd never be any good at that game, even though I think I knew it years earlier. One day I was out shagging balls there for my best friend, two-time SF City Golf Tournament Champion, John Susko, the day before his first match in the upcoming City Tournament. He spread out some pine needles on bare dirt, and hit balls off them. It was an unstable lie, and he felt if he could hit good shots off that lie, then it would be easy to hit them off a stable lie. A friend, Pat Patterson, the Lincoln Park Club Champion, joined us. John kept hitting those wedges off the pine needles, and as the minutes went by, the balls were landing closer and closer to the target. He began landing them about 10-12 feet from the target, and when he finished, they were all landing inside a 3-foot circle. John said, "I'm done. I'm ready." Pat asked him, "Are you sure? You've been hitting shots for less than half an hour." John replied, "Yes. I'm ready. Who can beat me?" John Susko, arguably the best amateur golfer in the Bay Area, went out the next day and lost in the first round.

And that is golf. You are smart to have figured out there was a better way for you to make a living than golf. John Susko died at 33 of Crohn's disease.

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bearister said:

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Malcolm Gladwell's 10,000 hours rule. Think of the ingenious song writers, lyricists, singers and musicians of the old days that were fabulously talented, perfectionists and put in thousands of hours getting to the highest level and staying there.

Today, how in God's name do the corporations decide who to back in the music industry when everyone seems equally talentless? I suppose it is the look and the swagger because the consuming public wouldn't even recognize or appreciate true talent.

It literally takes me 30 seconds to watch and listen to a music act on SNL or the Tonight Show to make the determination that it is valueless crap.

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I've told my golf story many times...I was pretty good at golf at a fairly young age. I read that the top golfers routinely hit 500 balls per day in addition to playing holes. I grabbed my shag bag and went out to a little practice area at Lincoln Park in SF (8 iron max). I got through 250 balls and called it quits. It was too much like work for my young teenage mind. And that is why I'm a retired IT System Analyst and not a retired pro golfer.

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I know that practice fairway at Lincoln Park. It took me hitting thousands of balls there, before I realized I'd never be any good at that game, even though I think I knew it years earlier. One day I was out shagging balls there for my best friend, two-time SF City Golf Tournament Champion, John Susko, the day before his first match in the upcoming City Tournament. He spread out some pine needles on bare dirt, and hit balls off them. It was an unstable lie, and he felt if he could hit good shots off that lie, then it would be easy to hit them off a stable lie. A friend, Pat Patterson, the Lincoln Park Club Champion, joined us. John kept hitting those wedges off the pine needles, and as the minutes went by, the balls were landing closer and closer to the target. He began landing them about 10-12 feet from the target, and when he finished, they were all landing inside a 3-foot circle. John said, "I'm done. I'm ready." Pat asked him, "Are you sure? You've been hitting shots for less than half an hour." John replied, "Yes. I'm ready. Who can beat me?" John Susko, arguably the best amateur golfer in the Bay Area, went out the next day and lost in the first round.

And that is golf. You are smart to have figured out there was a better way for you to make a living than golf. John Susko died at 33 of Crohn's disease.

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I had forgotten John died at a young age. He was a really good golfer. I didn't think anyone on this site would know about Lincoln's little practice area. Did you know Steve Okasaki or Charlie (don't know his last name)? Charlie was the pro there, I think, Steve worked in the pro shop for many years along with being an SH grad like me. He graduated before I started SH. I also knew Tim Goode, the teaching pro and Carol Conidi, one of the better female players at Lincoln. Lincoln was my home away from home for many of my formative years.
Tony D'Antonio

Whenever somebody dies, and there's an immediate showing of unity, my heart becomes warm. Then all of a sudden, there's controversy.

I remember Tom Petty died...and the family showed a unified front. Then a legal fight ensued between his daughters and his widow.

Now this....

Anne Heche's family is fighting over her estate after she died without a will. https://t.co/km5HHeTUk2

— TMZ (@TMZ) September 16, 2022

In the Scorsese documentary on the life of George Harrison (A+), Tom Petty recounts the time Harrison called him in the middle of the night to notify him of Roy Orbison's death. Petty said the next words out of George's mouth were:

"Aren't you glad it wasn't you."

George Harrison: Living in the Material World (2011) - IMDb


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1113829/