movielover said:Think about the entire weight of the corrupt governments, corporations, media, etc, coming hard at @elonmusk right now - they’re threatening him at every turn.
— Catturd ™ (@catturd2) November 23, 2022
What is his crime? Trying to provide free speech to everyone, equally, on both sides.
We have to stand with him.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised that you're missing the point, but this is about Elon Musk claiming he was going to make Twitter a "free speech" zone and then turning around and banning his competitors and reporters who criticize him. It's the hypocrisy they're commenting on.oski003 said:
What kind of privileged dolts are crying because they can't use someone's media to recruit them away and to a rival media? This is madness. Liberals are ducking insane.
sycasey said:I guess I shouldn't be surprised that you're missing the point, but this is about Elon Musk claiming he was going to make Twitter a "free speech" zone and then turning around and banning his competitors and reporters who criticize him. It's the hypocrisy they're commenting on.oski003 said:
What kind of privileged dolts are crying because they can't use someone's media to recruit them away and to a rival media? This is madness. Liberals are ducking insane.
oski003 said:sycasey said:I guess I shouldn't be surprised that you're missing the point, but this is about Elon Musk claiming he was going to make Twitter a "free speech" zone and then turning around and banning his competitors and reporters who criticize him. It's the hypocrisy they're commenting on.oski003 said:
What kind of privileged dolts are crying because they can't use someone's media to recruit them away and to a rival media? This is madness. Liberals are ducking insane.
If Twitter starts repressing liberal views outside of whiny liberals trying to destroy it, you would have an argument with some substance. I absolutely get it.
The accounts of Ryan Mac of The New York Times, Donie O'Sullivan of CNN, Drew Harwell of The Washington Post, Matt Binder of Mashable, Micah Lee of The Intercept and indie journalists Aaron Rupar, Keith Olbermann and Tony Webster had all been suspended https://t.co/1fIPAL8peO
— Bruno J. Navarro (@Bruno_J_Navarro) December 16, 2022
dajo9 said:oski003 said:sycasey said:I guess I shouldn't be surprised that you're missing the point, but this is about Elon Musk claiming he was going to make Twitter a "free speech" zone and then turning around and banning his competitors and reporters who criticize him. It's the hypocrisy they're commenting on.oski003 said:
What kind of privileged dolts are crying because they can't use someone's media to recruit them away and to a rival media? This is madness. Liberals are ducking insane.
If Twitter starts repressing liberal views outside of whiny liberals trying to destroy it, you would have an argument with some substance. I absolutely get it.
Have you always been slow?The accounts of Ryan Mac of The New York Times, Donie O'Sullivan of CNN, Drew Harwell of The Washington Post, Matt Binder of Mashable, Micah Lee of The Intercept and indie journalists Aaron Rupar, Keith Olbermann and Tony Webster had all been suspended https://t.co/1fIPAL8peO
— Bruno J. Navarro (@Bruno_J_Navarro) December 16, 2022
okaydo said:
FREE SPEECH!
LOL!
https://www.mediaite.com/tech/twitter-suspends-several-reporters-accounts-in-thursday-night-massacre-i-havent-been-given-a-reason/
sycasey said:I guess I shouldn't be surprised that you're missing the point, but this is about Elon Musk claiming he was going to make Twitter a "free speech" zone and then turning around and banning his competitors and reporters who criticize him. It's the hypocrisy they're commenting on.oski003 said:
What kind of privileged dolts are crying because they can't use someone's media to recruit them away and to a rival media? This is madness. Liberals are ducking insane.
movielover said:okaydo said:
FREE SPEECH!
LOL!
https://www.mediaite.com/tech/twitter-suspends-several-reporters-accounts-in-thursday-night-massacre-i-havent-been-given-a-reason/
Start your own company. Ha!
sycasey said:I guess I shouldn't be surprised that you're missing the point, but this is about Elon Musk claiming he was going to make Twitter a "free speech" zone and then turning around and banning his competitors and reporters who criticize him. It's the hypocrisy they're commenting on.oski003 said:
What kind of privileged dolts are crying because they can't use someone's media to recruit them away and to a rival media? This is madness. Liberals are ducking insane.
oski003 said:sycasey said:I guess I shouldn't be surprised that you're missing the point, but this is about Elon Musk claiming he was going to make Twitter a "free speech" zone and then turning around and banning his competitors and reporters who criticize him. It's the hypocrisy they're commenting on.oski003 said:
What kind of privileged dolts are crying because they can't use someone's media to recruit them away and to a rival media? This is madness. Liberals are ducking insane.
If Twitter starts repressing liberal views outside of whiny liberals trying to destroy it, you would have an argument with some substance. I absolutely get it.
movielover said:sycasey said:I guess I shouldn't be surprised that you're missing the point, but this is about Elon Musk claiming he was going to make Twitter a "free speech" zone and then turning around and banning his competitors and reporters who criticize him. It's the hypocrisy they're commenting on.oski003 said:
What kind of privileged dolts are crying because they can't use someone's media to recruit them away and to a rival media? This is madness. Liberals are ducking insane.
Liberals have been banning Conservatives by the hundreds fir years, and most Libs didn't care.
Now a couple of narrative engineer drones get a similar treatment, and within a few hours we have crocodile tears from the Left. Yes, hypocrisy.
movielover said:
Start your own company. Ha!
Actual attempts at state censorship is therefore treated as “free speech,” while editorial discretion they oppose is treated censorship.
— Adam Serwer 🍝 (@AdamSerwer) December 12, 2022
https://www.reddit.com/r/WhitePeopleTwitter/comments/zn1q5d/twitter_suspended_account_informing_no_crime/WalterSobchak said:I don't see the connection either, but Elon made it. I can only assume this car was the transport from the airport and that the incident took place somewhere along the route. And yes I'm suspicious about the timing given the clear motive.Unit2Sucks said:Are you suggesting this is a false flag? I don't see what a flight tracker has to do with someone following a car.WalterSobchak said:
Pretty convenient that this harrowing incident happened on the exact same day he blocked Sweeney's flight tracker from Twitter, but had no power to do so on its other platforms. Now he will undoubtedly seek an injunction from the courts to do just that. Coincidence? I guess the evidence will tell the tale...
As for the other discussion about shifts in ideology, Pew shows the conservatives moving to the right faster than liberals moving to the left.
Here is Musk’s full exchange on Twitter Space as he tried to explain himself, misrepresented what the reporter was doing, the reporter challenged him and then Musk misrepresented it again and took off. pic.twitter.com/LZ7NZgFeqz
— Jason Kint (@jason_kint) December 16, 2022
Lol - insane Keith Olbermann is using his dog’s account to cry about @elonmusk suspending him. 😂😂😂 https://t.co/d2lyteI6cq
— Catturd ™ (@catturd2) December 16, 2022
I always appreciate journalists pointing out the hypocrisy of the rich and powerfulMinotStateBeav said:
lolLol - insane Keith Olbermann is using his dog’s account to cry about @elonmusk suspending him. 😂😂😂 https://t.co/d2lyteI6cq
— Catturd ™ (@catturd2) December 16, 2022
You'll have to forgive minot, he's just a typical coastal elitist who defends the rich and powerful like Elon and Trump. That's what populist means now right?dajo9 said:
I always appreciate journalists pointing out the hypocrisy of the rich and powerful
dajo9 said:I always appreciate journalists pointing out the hypocrisy of the rich and powerfulMinotStateBeav said:
lolLol - insane Keith Olbermann is using his dog’s account to cry about @elonmusk suspending him. 😂😂😂 https://t.co/d2lyteI6cq
— Catturd ™ (@catturd2) December 16, 2022
oski003 said:dajo9 said:I always appreciate journalists pointing out the hypocrisy of the rich and powerfulMinotStateBeav said:
lolLol - insane Keith Olbermann is using his dog’s account to cry about @elonmusk suspending him. 😂😂😂 https://t.co/d2lyteI6cq
— Catturd ™ (@catturd2) December 16, 2022
The whining crybaby posted a link to the jet tracker. Good riddance.
oski003 said:dajo9 said:I always appreciate journalists pointing out the hypocrisy of the rich and powerfulMinotStateBeav said:
lolLol - insane Keith Olbermann is using his dog’s account to cry about @elonmusk suspending him. 😂😂😂 https://t.co/d2lyteI6cq
— Catturd ™ (@catturd2) December 16, 2022
The whining crybaby posted a link to the jet tracker. Good riddance.
Where have I ever said it goes against free speech rules? Can you provide a link to my post please?sycasey said:oski003 said:dajo9 said:I always appreciate journalists pointing out the hypocrisy of the rich and powerfulMinotStateBeav said:
lolLol - insane Keith Olbermann is using his dog’s account to cry about @elonmusk suspending him. 😂😂😂 https://t.co/d2lyteI6cq
— Catturd ™ (@catturd2) December 16, 2022
The whining crybaby posted a link to the jet tracker. Good riddance.
Can you explain why the jet tracker goes against free speech rules? The information is public knowledge, is it not?
Elon said it did . . . called it doxxing.oski003 said:Where have I ever said it goes against free speech rules? Can you provide a link to my post please?sycasey said:oski003 said:dajo9 said:I always appreciate journalists pointing out the hypocrisy of the rich and powerfulMinotStateBeav said:
lolLol - insane Keith Olbermann is using his dog’s account to cry about @elonmusk suspending him. 😂😂😂 https://t.co/d2lyteI6cq
— Catturd ™ (@catturd2) December 16, 2022
The whining crybaby posted a link to the jet tracker. Good riddance.
Can you explain why the jet tracker goes against free speech rules? The information is public knowledge, is it not?
"The billionaire and new Twitter owner does seem to have opted into a program offered by the Federal Aviation Association called Limiting Aircraft Data Displayed, or LADD, in an effort to limit some information about his aircraft. Another website, FlightAware, does not show any flight information for Musk's jet, saying on its website it does so at the request of the owner."sycasey said:oski003 said:dajo9 said:I always appreciate journalists pointing out the hypocrisy of the rich and powerfulMinotStateBeav said:
lolLol - insane Keith Olbermann is using his dog’s account to cry about @elonmusk suspending him. 😂😂😂 https://t.co/d2lyteI6cq
— Catturd ™ (@catturd2) December 16, 2022
The whining crybaby posted a link to the jet tracker. Good riddance.
Can you explain why the jet tracker goes against free speech rules? The information is public knowledge, is it not?
Rather than rigorously pursuing truth, you are virtue-signaling to show that you are “good” in the eyes of media elite to keep one foot in both worlds
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 16, 2022
Yeah, he's using data from various other tracking sources (all available publicly).MinotStateBeav said:"The billionaire and new Twitter owner does seem to have opted into a program offered by the Federal Aviation Association called Limiting Aircraft Data Displayed, or LADD, in an effort to limit some information about his aircraft. Another website, FlightAware, does not show any flight information for Musk's jet, saying on its website it does so at the request of the owner."sycasey said:oski003 said:dajo9 said:I always appreciate journalists pointing out the hypocrisy of the rich and powerfulMinotStateBeav said:
lolLol - insane Keith Olbermann is using his dog’s account to cry about @elonmusk suspending him. 😂😂😂 https://t.co/d2lyteI6cq
— Catturd ™ (@catturd2) December 16, 2022
The whining crybaby posted a link to the jet tracker. Good riddance.
Can you explain why the jet tracker goes against free speech rules? The information is public knowledge, is it not?
Tracker guy is using a workaround to track the private jets. A lot of rich folks now are apparently just selling their private jets and using rentals to avoid being tracked.
My commitment to free speech extends even to not banning the account following my plane, even though that is a direct personal safety risk
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 7, 2022
sycasey said:Elon said it did . . . called it doxxing.oski003 said:Where have I ever said it goes against free speech rules? Can you provide a link to my post please?sycasey said:oski003 said:dajo9 said:I always appreciate journalists pointing out the hypocrisy of the rich and powerfulMinotStateBeav said:
lolLol - insane Keith Olbermann is using his dog’s account to cry about @elonmusk suspending him. 😂😂😂 https://t.co/d2lyteI6cq
— Catturd ™ (@catturd2) December 16, 2022
The whining crybaby posted a link to the jet tracker. Good riddance.
Can you explain why the jet tracker goes against free speech rules? The information is public knowledge, is it not?
Anyway, why do you object to the jet tracker?
Elon Musk just suspended Business Insider reporter Linette Lopez for documenting the times Elon had his enemies tracked and doxxed
— Gabe Hoffman (@GabeHoff) December 16, 2022
She did not post anything related to Elon’s jet
She has done amazing investigative reporting on Tesla pic.twitter.com/c7PeBxlwmn
So funny to see people like you post this. The FAA mandates that the information be broadcast from every airplane to anyone with a receiver. An amateur website crowdsources and aggregates it for enthusiasts.oski003 said:sycasey said:Elon said it did . . . called it doxxing.oski003 said:Where have I ever said it goes against free speech rules? Can you provide a link to my post please?sycasey said:oski003 said:dajo9 said:I always appreciate journalists pointing out the hypocrisy of the rich and powerfulMinotStateBeav said:
lolLol - insane Keith Olbermann is using his dog’s account to cry about @elonmusk suspending him. 😂😂😂 https://t.co/d2lyteI6cq
— Catturd ™ (@catturd2) December 16, 2022
The whining crybaby posted a link to the jet tracker. Good riddance.
Can you explain why the jet tracker goes against free speech rules? The information is public knowledge, is it not?
Anyway, why do you object to the jet tracker?
Real time data of Musk's whereabouts should not be posted on the internet. The CEO of Twitter has every right to not allow real time data of his whereabouts to be posted or linked to on his platform. It is dangerous. Liberal tears seem to have a temporary hold on people's common sense.
Quote:
Streufert acknowledged that many airplane owners have reasonable privacy concerns. But when it comes to removing sensitive information, he said, the website doesn't seek to be an arbiter of data that is widely accessible.
"It gets into who's right and wrong," Streufert said. "When the war in Ukraine started, we got Russian oligarchs saying, 'Hey, hide my jet.' I don't want to be taking sides."
He continued: "We publish everything, and it already is public data. We're not sharing anything you couldn't find from many other sources."
It comes out of a Valley utopianism has said since the 90s that all legacy institutions are ultimately barriers to progress, but that the enlightened minds of the tech world, guided by the pure science of engineering, will one day liberate us by smashing the old ways.
— Max Fisher (@Max_Fisher) December 16, 2022
It's the VCs of the 2000s and 2010s, especially Peter Thiel, who came up with a certain Elon Musk via PayPal, who argued that this was the technology industry's destiny pic.twitter.com/WCGVfdw6VM
— Max Fisher (@Max_Fisher) December 16, 2022
If you remember the Clubhouse sagas of 2020, you saw how openly this is now discussed among some of the Valley's most powerful. "Why does the press have a right to investigate private companies? Let the market decide." https://t.co/m6LL8ZPRDd
— Max Fisher (@Max_Fisher) December 16, 2022
There's been a movement for a few years now among many of big tech's most powerful VCs to mass block, even try to harass or ban, news reporters as a class. Journalism unwelcome in the new digital utopia. And that's the circle from which a certain new Twitter CEO comes.
— Max Fisher (@Max_Fisher) December 16, 2022
Of course there's a lot that got us from the 1990s cyber-revolution manifestos to what we see on Twitter today, and a lot more going on behind the curtain. If you'll forgive the crass plug, I tell that story and its implications for our future in my book: https://t.co/sQvIz14AVd
— Max Fisher (@Max_Fisher) December 16, 2022
Unit2Sucks said:So funny to see people like you post this. The FAA mandates that the information be broadcast from every airplane to anyone with a receiver. An amateur website crowdsources and aggregates it for enthusiasts.oski003 said:sycasey said:Elon said it did . . . called it doxxing.oski003 said:Where have I ever said it goes against free speech rules? Can you provide a link to my post please?sycasey said:oski003 said:dajo9 said:I always appreciate journalists pointing out the hypocrisy of the rich and powerfulMinotStateBeav said:
lolLol - insane Keith Olbermann is using his dog’s account to cry about @elonmusk suspending him. 😂😂😂 https://t.co/d2lyteI6cq
— Catturd ™ (@catturd2) December 16, 2022
The whining crybaby posted a link to the jet tracker. Good riddance.
Can you explain why the jet tracker goes against free speech rules? The information is public knowledge, is it not?
Anyway, why do you object to the jet tracker?
Real time data of Musk's whereabouts should not be posted on the internet. The CEO of Twitter has every right to not allow real time data of his whereabouts to be posted or linked to on his platform. It is dangerous. Liberal tears seem to have a temporary hold on people's common sense.
Their position is quite simple - and very similar to what conservatives pretend like their positions is, except conservatives only really mean it when someone doesn't want to promote their dangerous or false misinformation.
Just more evidence that conservatives never really believed in free speech to begin with, not that it's ever really been in doubt for anyone paying attention.Quote:
Streufert acknowledged that many airplane owners have reasonable privacy concerns. But when it comes to removing sensitive information, he said, the website doesn't seek to be an arbiter of data that is widely accessible.
"It gets into who's right and wrong," Streufert said. "When the war in Ukraine started, we got Russian oligarchs saying, 'Hey, hide my jet.' I don't want to be taking sides."
He continued: "We publish everything, and it already is public data. We're not sharing anything you couldn't find from many other sources."
The bigger question is why anyone would care about this nonsense. The answer for Elon is quite simple - buy 3 or 4 planes and have them flying random routes so no one ever knows where he is. Although to be honest, a lot of the movements are predictable and his location is regularly known (like when he makes his numerous public appearances) so I don't really see this as a safety risk to begin with.
Did Elno ban every account that posted videos of him getting booed in real time at the Dave Chapelle show? Because that showed his location in real time. Oh, I forgot, he banned people for posting those videos for other reasons. Because, free speech to conservatives means they can say whatever stupid **** they want and they can muzzle anything they don't want to hear.
