The censorship thread

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In reply to bear2034 • 10:26p, 9/15/24
This is awesome !
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In reply to Cal88 • 11:30p, 9/15/24
Who agrees with bill gates?



Because he is your emperor…emperor to all of us
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In reply to concordtom • 1:24a, 9/17/24
Hey concordtom…you need to watch this. Shouldn't all of these people be arrested?



I'm sure all the liberals will ignore this
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In reply to HawaiiBear33 • 6:48a, 9/17/24
Good morning.
Are you in Hawaii? Born in Hawaii?
We're you born in 1933? Or was that your playing number?

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7:47p, 9/17/24

Can you imagine anything more gross than listening to Hillary Clinton talk about censorship on the Rachel Maddow show?
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In reply to concordtom • 9:30p, 9/17/24


When you worked in the senate did you see any of the rampant corruption on both sides?
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In reply to bear2034 • 10:18p, 9/17/24
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Can you imagine anything more gross than listening to Hillary Clinton talk about censorship on the Rachel Maddow show?


Hillary is correct
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In reply to dajo9 • 11:55p, 9/17/24
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Hillary is correct
How come Bill doesn't say these kind of things?
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In reply to HawaiiBear33 • 2:50a, 9/18/24
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When you worked in the senate did you see any of the rampant corruption on both sides?

I saw Joe Biden's hair plugs!

You know, the fact that you posted that nonsensical collage, along with the fact that you just joined Aug 14 and yet know my story tells me that you are Yogi.

Therefore, I am blocking you and won't be chatting with you again - at least not in your current iteration.

Goodbye and good luck.
May life bring you peace, health and happiness.
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In reply to concordtom • 12:25p, 9/18/24
concordtom said:
HawaiiBear33 said:


When you worked in the senate did you see any of the rampant corruption on both sides?

I saw Joe Biden's hair plugs!

You know, the fact that you posted that nonsensical collage, along with the fact that you just joined Aug 14 and yet know my story tells me that you are Yogi.

Therefore, I am blocking you and won't be chatting with you again - at least not in your current iteration.

Goodbye and good luck.
May life bring you peace, health and happiness.
I don't think he's Yogi, despite the over the top Democrats are the root of all evil nature of many of his posts. He has actually admitted being wrong once or twice and Yogi NEVER does that. Once you get past the absolutism of his initial posts on topics, he seems like he's not as bitter and angry as Yogi.
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In reply to Eastern Oregon Bear • 6:34p, 9/18/24
Regardless, someone who has created multiple names, as evidenced by their knowledge of me despite just joining, gets booted.
I believe it's even against the rules.
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In reply to Eastern Oregon Bear • 6:47p, 9/18/24
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In reply to Eastern Oregon Bear • 11:08p, 9/18/24
I'm not Yogi but remember his posts on the sports board.

CT posted about working for the senate since I came back. I remember your posts on sports boards for years too but don't remember you mentioning working in the senate until recently.

I won't lose sleep over being blocked.

Are you all aware that Biden is planning to cede power to the UN and WHO?


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In reply to dajo9 • 11:59p, 9/18/24
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Hillary is correct
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4:17a, 9/20/24
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3:28p, 9/20/24


Halfway through they discuss censorship of the nonsensical liars in media
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8:16a, 9/21/24
More greatness from Kamala Harris that will be censored and not shown by corporate news
https://www.threads.net/@kamalahq/post/DALrKh7h2fs/?xmt=AQGzAs6YOiG1pHcx98drFfHuudRYa6ezdHbqGNv6UozZCQ
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9:26a, 9/21/24
Common sense words from Vice President Harris on the life or death stakes for women that corporate news will censor because her language doesn't fit into their right wing Overton Window of how abortion is to be discussed in America
https://www.threads.net/@tomdemcast/post/DAJzwwohMdp/?xmt=AQGzmxPapki6KDz7DwLHxZXOPwfFR3EQtsGYqTOoWgSF3A
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In reply to dajo9 • 1:31a, 9/23/24
dajo9 said:
bear2034 said:

Can you imagine anything more gross than listening to Hillary Clinton talk about censorship on the Rachel Maddow show?


Hillary is correct



Wow…wow…just wow

@beargoggles. From what I can remember you seem to be liberal but you understand the incredible importance of free speech. I envy your eloquence in describing it in fact.


Seeing your fellow bears (and bear fan CT) so convinced and ready to relinquish free speech to the government should have you very concerned. Every free country in the history of the world who has given up free speech has become some type of tyranny.


Seeing these people converted into parrots and unable critically think should be proof that the government, msm and globalist companies have been deceiving people for decades.
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In reply to HawaiiBear33 • 10:58a, 9/23/24
" beargoggles. From what I can remember you seem to be liberal…"

Sure, if you consider Attila the Hun to be a liberal.
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12:33p, 9/23/24

Democrats censor.
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In reply to dajo9 • 2:50p, 9/23/24
Absurd. The media has figuratively been sucking Kamala's toe since she was installed.

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In reply to bearister • 2:52p, 9/23/24
Guess I wasn't paying close attention lol.

Should've known that all the liberals probably think giving up free speech is a good idea…not just a few.

Pick up a book about lost freedom any country at any time.

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In reply to dajo9 • 3:03p, 9/23/24


Common sense
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In reply to HawaiiBear33 • 3:07p, 9/23/24
Nope, I'm a HUGE supporter of Free Speech. The built in protection are the defamation laws. If you lie and have a deep pocket, a jury will make you pay (see tRump E. Jean Carroll verdict). Fox News decided to make a bargain basement settlement payment of $787,000,000 to Dominion Voting Systems rather than have to give up all its dirty little secrets in discovery and get spanked even harder by a jury.

If your free speech is a Hate Crime or incites violence then the criminal justice system will handle it.

I find it humorous that Elon Musk is considered the guardian angel of free speech by some. There are dozens and dozens of stories by eyewitnesses to his censorship of people who disagree with him. Here are a couple of them:

Elon Musk has become the world's biggest hypocrite on free speech | Elon Musk | The Guardian


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/jan/15/elon-musk-hypocrite-free-speech


Elon Musk Is Absolutely an Enemy of Free Speech | Free Press


https://www.freepress.net/blog/elon-musk-absolutely-enemy-free-speech
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In reply to bearister • 3:12p, 9/23/24
Even if musk does all that you say…he is not the government trying to make it illegal. You don't seem to understand free speech. Go back and read atilla de goggles posts about free speech. I suck at writing and can't do it justice like he did.

Our government, UN, WEF, Bill gates all pushing for global control of information but free speech to you is about bs political persecution


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In reply to HawaiiBear33 • 3:43p, 9/23/24
"You don't seem to understand free speech."

Well, we can't all be experts.

My observation is that the biggest whiners on the Right regarding Free Speech are the ones that got called on spreading disinformation (and banning books). It brings to mind when after there were a few large sexual harassment verdicts in the 1990's, the two guys that were sexual harassers in my firm were whining, "Gee, you can't even have a conversation with a secretary anymore."
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In reply to bearister • 3:53p, 9/23/24
bearister said:
"You don't seem to understand free speech."

Well, we can't all be experts.

My observation is that the biggest whiners on the Right regarding Free Speech are the ones that got called on spreading disinformation (and banning books). It brings to mind when after there were a few large sexual harassment verdicts in the 1990's, the two guys that sexual harassers in my firm were whining, "Gee, you can't even have a conversation with a secretary anymore."
As a legal matter, no books were banned - you and a person in any state can pretty much buy any book you want (with the exception of illegal materials such as child porn). You are spreading disinformation, which is both humorous and ironic.

Of course, you might be engaging in a bit of political rhetoric or using a bit of shorthand (i.e., that banned = books excluded from public school curriculum). But your words - taken in isolation - are objectively false disinformation. Maybe Gavin will arrest you or the owner's of this website for permitting the posting of such disinformation?

And of course, that is the problem with your (and other liberals) position regarding censorship. Disinformation is in the eye of the beholder or part of normal political rhetoric/opinion - like when Kamala falsely says that Trump supports project 2025. Many of the statement surrounding covid and the lab leak where labeled disinformation and then proved correct.

And that is why we can't have politicians or courts deciding what is banned and what is permitted.
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In reply to BearGoggles • 7:02p, 9/23/24
If I'm using political rhetoric regarding book banning, then you are playing semantic games. The defacto book banning occurring in the educational system is mission creeping into the public library system (we all know the end game) in some Red states. See this Wikipedia article (read entry on Mississippi Public Library system) and read the notes for the original source material if you are one of those "dismiss Wikipedia with a flippant remark but never rebut the factual assertions made" kind of guys:

Book banning in the United States (2021present) - Wikipedia


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_banning_in_the_United_States_(2021%E2%80%93present)

As far as your claim that it is disinformation to claim tRump is tied to Project 2025, the research in the articles below support a colorable argument that the circumstantial evidence makes it far more likely than not that tRump knows all about Project 2025 and intends to consult it and its drafters should he win the election:

Trump claims not to know who is behind Project 2025. A CNN review found at least 140 people who worked for him are involved | CNN Politics


https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/11/politics/trump-allies-project-2025/index.html

The publisher of Project 2025, the Heritage Foundation, has deep ties to tRump and has boasted that the GOP presidential nominee carried out roughly two-thirds of its 2015 recommendations within a year of taking office the first time:

Trump Administration Embraces Heritage Foundation Policy Recommendations | The Heritage Foundation


https://www.heritage.org/impact/trump-administration-embraces-heritage-foundation-policy-recommendations


What is your evidence to support tRump's denial that he knows nothing about Project 2025 or has any ties to it? tRump's own words? The man is a pathological liar and the people, events and documents that he has claimed he had no knowledge of, when demonstrably he does, could fill the pages of a tRump Bible. This is why he can never take the witness stand in court.

This video explains the evidence supporting the allegation that tRump was lyin' like Peter denying Jesus three times when during the debate he said knew naught of Project 2025:

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In reply to bearister • 7:45p, 9/23/24
bearister said:
If I'm using political rhetoric regarding book banning, then you are playing semantic games. The defacto book banning occurring in the educational system is mission creeping into the public library system (we all know the end game) in some Red states. See this Wikipedia article (read entry on Mississippi Public Library system) and read the notes for the original source material if you are one of those "dismiss Wikipedia with a flippant remark but never rebut the factual assertions made" kind of guys:

Book banning in the United States (2021present) - Wikipedia


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_banning_in_the_United_States_(2021%E2%80%93present)

As far as your claim that it is disinformation to claim tRump is tied to Project 2025, the research in the articles below support a colorable argument that the circumstantial evidence makes it far more likely than not that tRump knows all about Project 2025 and intends to consult it and its drafters should he win the election:

Trump claims not to know who is behind Project 2025. A CNN review found at least 140 people who worked for him are involved | CNN Politics


https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/11/politics/trump-allies-project-2025/index.html

The publisher of Project 2025, the Heritage Foundation, has deep ties to tRump and has boasted that the GOP presidential nominee carried out roughly two-thirds of its 2015 recommendations within a year of taking office the first time:

Trump Administration Embraces Heritage Foundation Policy Recommendations | The Heritage Foundation


https://www.heritage.org/impact/trump-administration-embraces-heritage-foundation-policy-recommendations


What is your evidence to support tRump's denial that he knows nothing about Project 2025 or has any ties to it? tRump's own words? The man is a pathological liar and the people, events and documents that he has claimed he had no knowledge of, when demonstrably he does, could fill the pages of a tRump Bible. This is why he can never take the witness stand in court.

This video explains the evidence supporting the allegation that tRump was lyin' like Peter denying Jesus three times when during the debate he said knew naught of Project 2025:

LOl - the fact that it took you so many words to make such an unconvincing case for book "defacto banning" makes my point. A book was not banned if it can be purchased and remains generally available. No books were banned - that is a fact.

Your argument is even more frivolous when you consider that people of the left have sought to "ban" (i.e., remove from school curriculum and libraries) books by Mark Twain, Steinback, and other American classics. Those books weren't banned - they were removed from curriculum.

You're free to make whatever absurd and mendacious arguments you want. It is disinformation - misleading speech. It doesn't change the overriding point which you dodge. Censorship is bad because opinions and political speech will inevitably be censored by the mob and people with power.

And LMAO at your link to Trump "embracing" the Heritage foundation. That is from 2018. Trump has said he doesn't support Project 2025. That is the only evidence that exists and for Kamala and her Krew to claim otherwise is disinformation. it is a lie.

And I note that by your logic, the views of anyone Kamala associates with (including her communist parents and all manner of criminals she has defended) should be imputed to Kamala unless you can prove otherwise. It is such back assward thinking you should be embarrassed. TDS has broken you.

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In reply to BearGoggles • 7:49p, 9/23/24
You can redeem yourself by confirming that you are not voting for tRump, otherwise…..

*You don't address Mississippi going after Public Libraries. Not all poor people can afford to buy a book not in a public library:
" A mayor in Ridgeland, Mississippi denied $110,000 in funding to the Madison County Public Library System that had already been approved by the city's board of aldermen. His justification for doing so was the library's possession of books on LGBTQ+ topics. According to Tonja Jackson, the executive director of the library, the mayor declared that he would not release the funds until all of those books were removed, citing his personal religious beliefs. Jackson stated, "I explained that we are a public library and we serve the entire community. I told him our collection reflects the diversity of our community. He told me that the library can serve whoever we wanted, but that he only serves the great Lord above." McGhee has maintained that his opposition to the LGBTQ+ books stems from complaints from community members."
-Wikipedia


*So I take it you concede that tRump is knee deep in Project 2025.
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In reply to bearister • 7:53p, 9/23/24
bearister said:
You can redeem yourself by confirming that you are not voting for tRump, otherwise…..
You can redeem yourself by being honest and not engaging in the same dissembling and false rhetoric that you accuse Trump of. You can redeem yourself by decrying and acknowledging Kamala's lying to the same extent you complain about Trump's. But you don't and you can't - because you're broken and Trump lives inside your head. That makes you a hypocrite.


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9:12p, 9/23/24
Hypothetical question. Would you rather have the richest person in the world determining free speech or your democratic republican government?
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