Focus movielover, focus. Where in this exchange did I mention DOGE or Elon Musk?movielover said:Eastern Oregon Bear said:I'm just pointing out that Trump is criticizing his own decisions. He should have spent more time reading briefings and doing his job and less time calling in to "Fox and Friends".BearGoggles said:Since Trump "did it", shouldn't you be opposing it?Eastern Oregon Bear said:As was pointed out elsewhere, the Reuters contract was signed during Trump's first term. Under Trump's eagle eyes.movielover said:
USAID / DOGE thread.Reuters received far more money than this from US government organizations, but via various subsidiaries and intermediaries to hide how they were getting it.
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) February 13, 2025
This is just what @DOGE has found so far. pic.twitter.com/PXbL1OkEKO
It is almost certain Trump had no idea about the expenditure. But even if he did, do you dispute its a good thing to reverse?
DOGE and Elon Musk have your panties in a bunch? Musk now has 100 people on site.
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:Focus movielover, focus. Where in this exchange did I mention DOGE or Elon Musk?movielover said:Eastern Oregon Bear said:I'm just pointing out that Trump is criticizing his own decisions. He should have spent more time reading briefings and doing his job and less time calling in to "Fox and Friends".BearGoggles said:Since Trump "did it", shouldn't you be opposing it?Eastern Oregon Bear said:As was pointed out elsewhere, the Reuters contract was signed during Trump's first term. Under Trump's eagle eyes.movielover said:
USAID / DOGE thread.Reuters received far more money than this from US government organizations, but via various subsidiaries and intermediaries to hide how they were getting it.
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) February 13, 2025
This is just what @DOGE has found so far. pic.twitter.com/PXbL1OkEKO
It is almost certain Trump had no idea about the expenditure. But even if he did, do you dispute its a good thing to reverse?
DOGE and Elon Musk have your panties in a bunch? Musk now has 100 people on site.
Please cut him some slack, he's got TDS.
INCITEMENT: The baseless attacks and lies made by Democrats and their willing accomplices in the drive-by media against Elon Musk are dangerous and irresponsible.
— @amuse (@amuse) February 15, 2025
h/t @cb_doge pic.twitter.com/5JOZ0k35v0
It's what I've been saying forever - The Left diminishes its own credibility with their insane rhetoric. It's unbelievably stupid because there is so much meat on the bones for legit criticism.
Vance’s speech was the other side of the same coin as Elon and DOGE:
— Shipwreckedcrew (@shipwreckedcrew) February 15, 2025
The US taxpayer has been abused long enough by others who won’t spend their own money on things they claim are vital.
The US Treasury is not the world’s piggy bank.
tequila4kapp said:
It's what I've been saying forever - The Left diminishes its own credibility with their insane rhetoric. It's unbelievably stupid because there is so much meat on the bones for legit criticism.
What separates the winners from the losers is how a person reacts to each new twist of fate.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 20, 2014
The Trump White House is flooding the zone. The only way the left can respond is to come up with a hoax with the likes we've never seen.
But that's NOT what Vance's speech was about at all. His speech was much more foundational, how Europe is moving away from core values to democracy - election integrity, free speech, religious persecution, etc. - and how that poses a threat to our relationship to each other.
The games hopefully were anticipated and current information saved.
WE KNEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN 🚨
— Wall Street Apes (@WallStreetApes) February 15, 2025
This person works for a federally funded grant program, she says everyone is “rewording” their programs to get around Donald Trump’s DEI funding freeze
“So much stuff is frozen just for the fact that now DEI, wording, wording has to be removed from… pic.twitter.com/6WeAmdOKjx
Mike Benz on the latest Joe Rogan podcast. Three hours of USAID, Deep State, blob glory.
Maybe being public keeps him alive?
Thank you, BHO.
Sec. 3. DOGE Structure. (a) Reorganization and Renaming of the United States Digital Service. The United States Digital Service is hereby publicly renamed as the United States DOGE Service (USDS) and shall be established in the Executive Office of the President.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/establishing-and-implementing-the-presidents-department-of-government-efficiency/
Obama created the Digital Service after the Obamacare website implosion, giving it relaxed hiring authority (doesn't have to follow civil service rules) and access to all computer systems in the Federal government. Congress approved it and gave it a budget. The Digital Service is a legitimate agency. Trump repurposed it as DOGE. DOGE is an agency with budget and Congressional approval and the ability to look at all computer systems.
Beautiful.
Sec. 3. DOGE Structure. (a) Reorganization and Renaming of the United States Digital Service. The United States Digital Service is hereby publicly renamed as the United States DOGE Service (USDS) and shall be established in the Executive Office of the President.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/establishing-and-implementing-the-presidents-department-of-government-efficiency/
Obama created the Digital Service after the Obamacare website implosion, giving it relaxed hiring authority (doesn't have to follow civil service rules) and access to all computer systems in the Federal government. Congress approved it and gave it a budget. The Digital Service is a legitimate agency. Trump repurposed it as DOGE. DOGE is an agency with budget and Congressional approval and the ability to look at all computer systems.
Beautiful.
Would you say the same about insane rhetoric from The Right? I'd say that examples abound right now.tequila4kapp said:
It's what I've been saying forever - The Left diminishes its own credibility with their insane rhetoric. It's unbelievably stupid because there is so much meat on the bones for legit criticism.
Do D's have anyone remotely in the same ballpark as Trump? I thought not. The dynamic is entirely different as a result.
I know it sounds hard to believe, but every single one of these things was a de facto intelligence operation pic.twitter.com/vYSP8elHg3
— Mike Benz (@MikeBenzCyber) February 15, 2025
tequila4kapp said:
Do D's have anyone remotely in the same ballpark as Trump?
If they do, he has resided in a federal penitentiary for several years.
Cancel my subscription to the Resurrection
Send my credentials to the House of Detention
I got some friends inside
“98 yards with my boys” Yeah, sure.
Send my credentials to the House of Detention
I got some friends inside
“98 yards with my boys” Yeah, sure.
By my back of the napkin math that's 815M in USAID for crappola.
President Trump is so bothered by Musk... he'll join him in the Hannity interview.
It's true, Trump's stuff is way more ridiculous, but he wins anyway!tequila4kapp said:
Do D's have anyone remotely in the same ballpark as Trump? I thought not. The dynamic is entirely different as a result.
Will Congress act to block wild, unneeded spending?
🚨President Trump posts a DOGE update: pic.twitter.com/ND1vV1EvOF
— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) February 16, 2025
Home values drop 20% in Washington, DC.
Damn this is CRAZY!!
— Wall Street Apes (@WallStreetApes) February 17, 2025
- Since DOGE began discussing mass layoffs. The median home price in Washington DC has fallen by around $139,000 in 30 days
- Nearly 4,000 homes have been listed for sale in and around Washington DC in November, 2024
- The median house in Washington DC was… pic.twitter.com/V3C0AwqGR6
According to the Social Security database, these are the numbers of people in each age bucket with the death field set to FALSE!
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) February 17, 2025
Maybe Twilight is real and there are a lot of vampires collecting Social Security 🤣🤣 pic.twitter.com/ltb06VX98Z
As always, Republicans relish being cruel. Because it's what Jesus would want.
Might I suggest they learn how to code or build windmills and solar panels. https://t.co/BW1TmWTnjk
— The Researcher (@listen_2learn) February 17, 2025
For decades Presidents have promised to cut waste - RINO Bush Jr., Clinton, Obama, Trump 1.0. Now Trump 2.0 is fulfilling that need.
Our deficit is over $2 Trillion a year, interest payments of $1 Trillion a year. And our C-A (USAID) is promoting transgender issues in South America and LGBTQ in Eastern Europe.
Our deficit is over $2 Trillion a year, interest payments of $1 Trillion a year. And our C-A (USAID) is promoting transgender issues in South America and LGBTQ in Eastern Europe.
Every federal employee received the Voluntary Termination letter. Every person was put on notice that staff reductions were coming. Every one of them could be sitting at home, collecting a government check, caring for their kids, paying their mortgage and leisurely looking for a next job. It was their choice to reject the offer. There is nothing cruel in this.
The people who were shown the door immediately were the people who chose to Resist by ignoring the Executive Order to halt payments to groups/countries. There is nothing cruel in this, either. They chose to Resist instead of performing their jobs like good non-partisan Civil Servants.
The actions of the government to identify and halt all this wasteful spending is fabulous. Sure, it is a shock to the system. But the fact is, some people have been living off the largesse of the federal government - taxpayers - and it is time to put the practice to a stop.
The people we should really be mad at are those who occupy seats in Congress. Both parties. The failure to fund government appropriately, to exercise appropriate oversight on these agencies, is almost criminal. It is an indication that our form of government may not be able to function (ie Congress has zero political incentive to appropriately manage expenses; the administrative state is a disaster).
The people who were shown the door immediately were the people who chose to Resist by ignoring the Executive Order to halt payments to groups/countries. There is nothing cruel in this, either. They chose to Resist instead of performing their jobs like good non-partisan Civil Servants.
The actions of the government to identify and halt all this wasteful spending is fabulous. Sure, it is a shock to the system. But the fact is, some people have been living off the largesse of the federal government - taxpayers - and it is time to put the practice to a stop.
The people we should really be mad at are those who occupy seats in Congress. Both parties. The failure to fund government appropriately, to exercise appropriate oversight on these agencies, is almost criminal. It is an indication that our form of government may not be able to function (ie Congress has zero political incentive to appropriately manage expenses; the administrative state is a disaster).
I guess the federal workers can go work in the fields and pick
"Capitalism cannot reform itself; it is doomed to self-destruction"
On a single Sunday, CBS 'News' managed to :
— Western Lensman (@WesternLensman) February 17, 2025
- Blame ‘weaponized free speech' for the Holocaust
- Glorify German authorities conducting pre-dawn raids on citizens over social media posts
- Run an “interview" with fmr. USAID head Samantha Power’s radical leftwing speech writer… pic.twitter.com/a15u2x7bUC
I'm a federal employee and I haven't received a "Voluntary Termination letter". I'm not sure how voluntary it is though. Still, I appreciate your empathy.tequila4kapp said:
Every federal employee received the Voluntary Termination letter. Every person was put on notice that staff reductions were coming. Every one of them could be sitting at home, collecting a government check, caring for their kids, paying their mortgage and leisurely looking for a next job. It was their choice to reject the offer. There is nothing cruel in this.
The people who were shown the door immediately were the people who chose to Resist by ignoring the Executive Order to halt payments to groups/countries. There is nothing cruel in this, either. They chose to Resist instead of performing their jobs like good non-partisan Civil Servants.
The actions of the government to identify and halt all this wasteful spending is fabulous. Sure, it is a shock to the system. But the fact is, some people have been living off the largesse of the federal government - taxpayers - and it is time to put the practice to a stop.
The people we should really be mad at are those who occupy seats in Congress. Both parties. The failure to fund government appropriately, to exercise appropriate oversight on these agencies, is almost criminal. It is an indication that our form of government may not be able to function (ie Congress has zero political incentive to appropriately manage expenses; the administrative state is a disaster).
Yeah, I've cut back on talking about my situation as a federal worker as I don't need a few cretins in here dancing gleefully when I mention my worries and fears.chazzed said:
As always, Republicans relish being cruel. Because it's what Jesus would want.Might I suggest they learn how to code or build windmills and solar panels. https://t.co/BW1TmWTnjk
— The Researcher (@listen_2learn) February 17, 2025
Fortunately, the word I'm getting from higher up in our agency is that it looks promising that we won't have people getting fired, except maybe the new probationary employees (we have two in my office - they will be good employees if we keep them). However, we have had 4 people decide to retire a year or two earlier than they planned and 1 took the buyout. One person got selected for a promotion to another office and he was looking at houses there, but now it's unclear if he will be allowed to go there due to the hiring freeze. The hiring freeze also ensures that we will be VERY short handed for the foreseeable future.
Overtime for everyone! $$$!!!
A friend that works at the Department of Energy told me everyone received them. My apologies if that's incorrect info.
Re empathy, look, this sucks for the impacted people. I am empathetic. But this sort of thing happens in the private sector all the time. It has happened to me. Nobody is offered 8 months pay for severance. And we see the assorted reports about where the money is going and how ridiculously wasteful things are, so it's necessary. So I'm sorry for the impacted people but this has to be done.
Re empathy, look, this sucks for the impacted people. I am empathetic. But this sort of thing happens in the private sector all the time. It has happened to me. Nobody is offered 8 months pay for severance. And we see the assorted reports about where the money is going and how ridiculously wasteful things are, so it's necessary. So I'm sorry for the impacted people but this has to be done.
Agreed.
Debt: $36 Trillion
Deficit: $2.5 Trillion?
Interest payments on the debt: $1 Trillion per year
Most ignore the topic; others say we'll simply print money, which robs everyone, but does the debt ever go down?
Could we generate a few Trillion by selling Federal land and / or leaves out West? Use the monies to pay off debt.
Debt: $36 Trillion
Deficit: $2.5 Trillion?
Interest payments on the debt: $1 Trillion per year
Most ignore the topic; others say we'll simply print money, which robs everyone, but does the debt ever go down?
Could we generate a few Trillion by selling Federal land and / or leaves out West? Use the monies to pay off debt.
Oh. You said "Every federal worker". I'm not in the Department of Energy though.tequila4kapp said:
PA friend that works at the Department of Energy told me everyone received them. My apologies if that's incorrect info. A
Re empathy, look, this sucks for the impacted people. I am empathetic. But this sort of thing happens in the private sector all the time. It has happened to me. Nobody is offered 8 months pay for severance. And we see the assorted reports about where the money is going and how ridiculously wasteful things are, so it's necessary. So I'm sorry for the impacted people but this has to be done.
There was virtually no details in the buyout offer. It was extremely sketchy. Did you ever get a severance offer that a) looked exactly like a phishing email and b) said reply to this email with "Resign" to accept. They promised 8 months pay but how can they guarantee that when Congress has only funded the government through March 15th? What does resigning do to your retirement and medical benefits? I didn't know and a few days wasn't much time to figure it out.
Also, history shows that you're a fool to accept a deal with Trump or Musk. They have long histories of failing to honor agreements. I frankly just didn't trust them to keep their word.
Sure there's waste in government but there's better ways of doing eliminating it than taking a wrecking ball to EVERYTHING wasteful and non-wasteful in just a few days. Do a REAL audit with people who know how to do them. Spend the time (6 months? A year?) and do it right. The collateral damage to important agencies will take years, if not decades, to fix.
By the way, do our people watching over our nuclear weapons seem wasteful? We just had another plane crash today in Toronto. Yeah, that's Canada and it's not our vassal state yet, but do we really need to be gutting an already understaffed FAA?
I understood my friend to mean every federal employee, not all people in his department/Agency.
Clinton and Obama tried the "rational and reasonable" approach to doing this. Both failed, likely because 1) the institutions of government are so vast and they work to protect themselves; and 2) Congress ultimately is motivated to never allow cuts (those cuts affect businesses and people in somebody's district). I'm afraid it has to happen this way, or never at all.
Re the airplane crashes…we don't know the official causes yet but initial indications are Pilot error (DC), mechanical malfunction (Philadelphia) and weather (Toronto). I'm not sure FAA staffing mattered at all.
Clinton and Obama tried the "rational and reasonable" approach to doing this. Both failed, likely because 1) the institutions of government are so vast and they work to protect themselves; and 2) Congress ultimately is motivated to never allow cuts (those cuts affect businesses and people in somebody's district). I'm afraid it has to happen this way, or never at all.
Re the airplane crashes…we don't know the official causes yet but initial indications are Pilot error (DC), mechanical malfunction (Philadelphia) and weather (Toronto). I'm not sure FAA staffing mattered at all.
Yeah, the fact that the FAA didn't have enough Air Traffic Controllers available to be fully staffed that night had nothing to do with the Washington DC crash.tequila4kapp said:
I understood my friend to mean every federal employee, not all people in his department/Agency.
Clinton and Obama tried the "rational and reasonable" approach to doing this. Both failed, likely because 1) the institutions of government are so vast and they work to protect themselves; and 2) Congress ultimately is motivated to never allow cuts (those cuts affect businesses and people in somebody's district). I'm afraid it has to happen this way, or never at all.
Re the airplane crashes…we don't know the official causes yet but initial indications are Pilot error (DC), mechanical malfunction (Philadelphia) and weather (Toronto). I'm not sure FAA staffing mattered at all.
EVERYTHING hasn't been cleared out. DOGE now has over a hundred employees and is auditing multiple departments.
USAID - which squaked first - was found to be a honeyhole of corruption and waste, and 220,000 new hires were released. There are still 2.1 million Federal employees.
USAID - which squaked first - was found to be a honeyhole of corruption and waste, and 220,000 new hires were released. There are still 2.1 million Federal employees.
" I'm afraid it has to happen this way, or never at all. "tequila4kapp said:
I understood my friend to mean every federal employee, not all people in his department/Agency.
Clinton and Obama tried the "rational and reasonable" approach to doing this. Both failed, likely because 1) the institutions of government are so vast and they work to protect themselves; and 2) Congress ultimately is motivated to never allow cuts (those cuts affect businesses and people in somebody's district). I'm afraid it has to happen this way, or never at all.
Re the airplane crashes…we don't know the official causes yet but initial indications are Pilot error (DC), mechanical malfunction (Philadelphia) and weather (Toronto). I'm not sure FAA staffing mattered at all.
This is one of the dumbest statements ever. You don't have to elect a narcissistic felon to bring in a narcissistic nazi billionaire that has no security clearance that hires teenagers to fire federal employees without merit.
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