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movielover
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During Trump 2.0 we had Real Wage growth before the Plandemic.

Navarro rightly notes the non-tariff hurdles to our trade efforts.

Cal88
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Looks like Elon is not on board with the tariffs.

concordtom
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

MinotStateBeav said:


Oh, well, if Pelosi lost $23 million, that makes cratering the US economy and destroying TRILLIONS of dollars totally worth it!


Something for maga to cheer.
They rooted for declines when Dems were in control
concordtom
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movielover said:

During Trump 2.0 we gad Teal Wage growth before the Plandemic.




Plandemic. Planned?
How is it you can be so goddam daft?
concordtom
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Cal88 said:

Looks like Elon is not on board with the tariffs.



Ha!
That's a great ****ing speech by Milton Friedman.
And well done by Elon.

I wonder what he'll do when he wakes up and realizes he got played.



movielover
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Expected, a difference for the Tech Bros.





Cal88
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Good thread on the case of Vietnam's footwear industry and the tariff situation.

DiabloWags
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

MinotStateBeav said:


Oh, well, if Pelosi lost $23 million, that makes cratering the US economy and destroying TRILLIONS of dollars totally worth it!

These people do nothing other than repeatedly step on their own dick in their War against the Libs.
Doesn't matter how many people's 401k's get decimated.

Meanwhile, all of those MAGA hat wearing Farmers are going to be claiming bankruptcy (again) given that CHINA just BANNED U.S. Ag-Exports.

That's $27 Billion of purchases that just disappeared.

MAGA for MORONS!!!
DiabloWags
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Peter Navarro was on CNBC earlier this morning.

Doesn't sound like he wants to negotiate or that he and the Orange Idiot have "read" the room properly. And it doesn't sound like any of our trade partners will be TRUSTING us anytime soon. We've lost all credibility.

I don't think that companies are looking to expand manufacturing here.

They're looking at layoffs.



DiabloWags
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We're the envy of the world.

Why would we want to become a manufacturing center like them (China)?

All of our creativity and growth in AI is about to go bust while we take 3 - 4 years to build plants here.
Data centers, etc.

This is like going into a Baseball game and your manager tells your team that you won't be playing with a shortstop or a catcher, but you'll be getting one in 3 years.

An "average" Recession will take 1.2 manufacturing jobs away.

Stupid is as stupid does.
DiabloWags
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Trump seeking a 104% total tariff on CHINA if CHINA retaliates with more than their current 34% tariff.

20% + 35% + 50%

MinotStateBeav
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One thing that Cass mentions is that the administration hasn't given very good detailed explanation of what they're trying to accomplish, but I think that's actually something they are trying to keep umm vague. From what I understand the Trump admin is intentionally creating chaos because they're trying to lower the stock market 20ish%. That's why one day they had a tariff on Mexico, the next day, they removed it, then back again..etc. What's a quick way to lower the stock market? Volatility. The admin knows people will take their money out and put it in like Treasury bonds. Trump is trying to get the interest rates to 0% in order to refinance the national debt. That will save the american people trillions.
SBGold
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concordtom said:

movielover said:

During Trump 2.0 we gad Teal Wage growth before the Plandemic.




Plandemic. Planned?
How is it you can be so goddam daft?
what happened to the dude's language skills in this post? It's like he suffered a stroke while typing

To hell with MAGAts.

VOTE BLUE

Go Bears Forever
MinotStateBeav
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SBGold said:

concordtom said:

movielover said:

During Trump 2.0 we gad Teal Wage growth before the Plandemic.




Plandemic. Planned?
How is it you can be so goddam daft?
what happened to the dude's language skills in this post? It's like he suffered a stroke while typing

To hell with MAGAts.

VOTE BLUE

Go Bears Forever
It's ok to cheer for Trump to be successful, I don't know why you would want him to fail.
SBGold
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MinotStateBeav said:

One thing that Cass mentions is that the administration hasn't given very good detailed explanation of what they're trying to accomplish, but I think that's actually something they are trying to keep umm vague. From what I understand the Trump admin is intentionally creating chaos because they're trying to lower the stock market 20ish%. That's why one day they had a tariff on Mexico, the next day, they removed it, then back again..etc. What's a quick way to lower the stock market? Volatility. The admin knows people will take their money out and put it in like Treasury bonds. Trump is trying to get the interest rates to 0% in order to refinance the national debt. That will save the american people trillions.

you should keep your thoughts to yourself, they don't add anything to the discussion. This admin has no idea what it is doing

To hell with MAGAts.

VOTE BLUE

Go Bears Forever
MinotStateBeav
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No problem psycho, thought i'd try and talk to you since I had you on block for a year. But I guess back you go.
DiabloWags
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Howard Lutnick on "Face the Nation"


"And you said that robots are going to fill those jobs," Brennan said. "So those aren't union worker jobs."

No, it's really automated jobs. It's automated factories- automated factories," Lutnick said. "But the key is, who's going to build the factories? Who's going to operate the factories? Who's going to make them work? Great American workers. You know, we are going to replace--"

Lutnick responded with utter gibberish.

"The armies of millions of people- well, remember, the army of millions and millions of human beings screwing in little- little screws to make iPhones, that kind of thing is going to come to America," he said. "It's going to be automated and great Americans- the tradecraft of America, is going to fix them, is going to work on them."
movielover
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DiabloWags said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

MinotStateBeav said:


Oh, well, if Pelosi lost $23 million, that makes cratering the US economy and destroying TRILLIONS of dollars totally worth it!

These people do nothing other than repeatedly step on their own dick in their War against the Libs.
Doesn't matter how many people's 401k's get decimated.

Meanwhile, all of those MAGA hat wearing Farmers are going to be claiming bankruptcy (again) given that CHINA just BANNED U.S. Ag-Exports.

That's $27 Billion of purchases that just disappeared.

MAGA for MORONS!!!



Increased Supply... humm, American food costs to drop?
movielover
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MinotStateBeav said:

One thing that Cass mentions is that the administration hasn't given very good detailed explanation of what they're trying to accomplish, but I think that's actually something they are trying to keep umm vague. From what I understand the Trump admin is intentionally creating chaos because they're trying to lower the stock market 20ish%. That's why one day they had a tariff on Mexico, the next day, they removed it, then back again..etc. What's a quick way to lower the stock market? Volatility. The admin knows people will take their money out and put it in like Treasury bonds. Trump is trying to get the interest rates to 0% in order to refinance the national debt. That will save the american people trillions.



- reduce spending
- increase tariff revenue
- increase tax revenue (new jobs)
- reduce the staggering $1 Trillion yearly interest payments on the debt
- cubicle day traders suffer in the short term

Brilliant?
concordtom
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movielover said:

Expected, a difference for the Tech Bros.







You should have used that logic when you whined about (pick your rage meme).
concordtom
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Cal88 said:

Good thread on the case of Vietnam's footwear industry and the tariff situation.




It would be good to put US labor rate in that chart, so people might understand how manufacturing is not coming back to the US even with tariffs increasing price of Asian shoes by (50%).

It's simply a tax on an Americans who wear shoes.
DiabloWags
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concordtom said:



You should have used that logic when you whined about (pick your rage meme).
Her literally has no clue what's going on.
Never an organic thought in his head. He has to "check" with his "bosses" first.

Pathetic.

concordtom
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DiabloWags said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

MinotStateBeav said:


Oh, well, if Pelosi lost $23 million, that makes cratering the US economy and destroying TRILLIONS of dollars totally worth it!

These people do nothing other than repeatedly step on their own dick in their War against the Libs.
Doesn't matter how many people's 401k's get decimated.

Meanwhile, all of those MAGA hat wearing Farmers are going to be claiming bankruptcy (again) given that CHINA just BANNED U.S. Ag-Exports.

That's $27 Billion of purchases that just disappeared.

MAGA for MORONS!!!



And China is establishing new trading partners with BRICS nations, strengthening that block and weakening American hegemony.

Trump is a world class moron.

AND SO ARE HIS VOTERS. UTTER FOOLS!!!!

Hillary's emails.
Hunter's laptop.

Rupert Murdock will soon die. He is 94.
movielover
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concordtom
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DiabloWags said:

Trump seeking a 104% total tariff on CHINA if CHINA retaliates with more than their current 34% tariff.

20% + 35% + 50%




World leaders should actually just freeze out Trump and USA. Just like we apply sanctions onto other nations to destabilize their leadership and encourage change from within.

Don't play ball with the bully.
Let the people rise up and overhaul from within.
concordtom
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MinotStateBeav said:

One thing that Cass mentions is that the administration hasn't given very good detailed explanation of what they're trying to accomplish, but I think that's actually something they are trying to keep umm vague. From what I understand the Trump admin is intentionally creating chaos because they're trying to lower the stock market 20ish%. That's why one day they had a tariff on Mexico, the next day, they removed it, then back again..etc. What's a quick way to lower the stock market? Volatility. The admin knows people will take their money out and put it in like Treasury bonds. Trump is trying to get the interest rates to 0% in order to refinance the national debt. That will save the american people trillions.



Or, how about coming up with a unified plan to balance the budget, trim expenditures in a bilateral agreement, sell the strategy to the nation and the world, increasing confidence globally in US economic leadership?

That would also lower interest rates because demand for US debt would increase.

It's clear you don't understand how markets work very well.

You see, this crisis is eroding confidence. That increases risk premiums, which increases interest rate demanded.

Your grade school thought pattern doesn't pencil out.
DiabloWags
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Scott Bessent said that fired Federal Govt employees can get jobs in manufacturing screwing in those little screws in dometically made iPhones.

I guess those scientists at the CDC and NIH can sew up some NIKES?!?!?!

Bwaahahahahahahahahaaaaa!



Welcome to DUMBERICA!
concordtom
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SBGold said:

concordtom said:

movielover said:

During Trump 2.0 we gad Teal Wage growth before the Plandemic.




Plandemic. Planned?
How is it you can be so goddam daft?
what happened to the dude's language skills in this post? It's like he suffered a stroke while typing

To hell with MAGAts.

VOTE BLUE

Go Bears Forever


Tiny iPhone keyboard
Happens to me constantly.
DiabloWags
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concordtom said:




It's clear you don't understand how markets work very well.

You see, this crisis is eroding confidence. That increases risk premiums, which increases interest rate demanded.

Your grade school thought pattern doesn't pencil out.

Shocker.
Trumper's are beyond stupid.

Rates can remain high given tariffs that cause INFLATION and massive Govt BORROWING.

Never mind that foreigners own a ton of our Treasuries and could become sellers on USD weakness.
Never mind that we have issued more bonds in fiscal 2025 (started last October) than ALL of 2022.

ie.) STAGFLATION


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Russian State Media Celebrates Trump Tariffs

"Well Done, Old Man!' Russian State TV Revels in Trump Having 'Destroyed Trust' in the Economy Calls for a Monument to Be Built in His Honor


https://www.mediaite.com/news/well-done-old-man-russian-state-tv-revels-in-trump-having-destroyed-trust-in-the-economy-calls-for-a-monument-to-be-built-in-his-honor/
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concordtom
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movielover said:

DiabloWags said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

MinotStateBeav said:


Oh, well, if Pelosi lost $23 million, that makes cratering the US economy and destroying TRILLIONS of dollars totally worth it!

These people do nothing other than repeatedly step on their own dick in their War against the Libs.
Doesn't matter how many people's 401k's get decimated.

Meanwhile, all of those MAGA hat wearing Farmers are going to be claiming bankruptcy (again) given that CHINA just BANNED U.S. Ag-Exports.

That's $27 Billion of purchases that just disappeared.

MAGA for MORONS!!!



Increased Supply... humm, American food costs to drop?


Since you're looking for a deal…

You can get free food if you search for Food Closet or Soup Kitchen in your neighborhood.
concordtom
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movielover said:

MinotStateBeav said:

One thing that Cass mentions is that the administration hasn't given very good detailed explanation of what they're trying to accomplish, but I think that's actually something they are trying to keep umm vague. From what I understand the Trump admin is intentionally creating chaos because they're trying to lower the stock market 20ish%. That's why one day they had a tariff on Mexico, the next day, they removed it, then back again..etc. What's a quick way to lower the stock market? Volatility. The admin knows people will take their money out and put it in like Treasury bonds. Trump is trying to get the interest rates to 0% in order to refinance the national debt. That will save the american people trillions.



- reduce spending
- increase tariff revenue
- increase tax revenue (new jobs)
- reduce the staggering $1 Trillion yearly interest payments on the debt
- cubicle day traders suffer in the short term

Brilliant?



I wish BI had a Save Post feature so we could revisit this in a few years time.
concordtom
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movielover said:




"Biden's stolen term"

It is endlessly shocking to me to read you idiots continue on in complete lunacy!
sycasey
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concordtom said:

MinotStateBeav said:

One thing that Cass mentions is that the administration hasn't given very good detailed explanation of what they're trying to accomplish, but I think that's actually something they are trying to keep umm vague. From what I understand the Trump admin is intentionally creating chaos because they're trying to lower the stock market 20ish%. That's why one day they had a tariff on Mexico, the next day, they removed it, then back again..etc. What's a quick way to lower the stock market? Volatility. The admin knows people will take their money out and put it in like Treasury bonds. Trump is trying to get the interest rates to 0% in order to refinance the national debt. That will save the american people trillions.



Or, how about coming up with a unified plan to balance the budget, trim expenditures in a bilateral agreement, sell the strategy to the nation and the world, increasing confidence globally in US economic leadership?

That would also lower interest rates because demand for US debt would increase.

It's clear you don't understand how markets work very well.

You see, this crisis is eroding confidence. That increases risk premiums, which increases interest rate demanded.

Your grade school thought pattern doesn't pencil out.
Also, maybe Congress should be let in on this plan, given that they are actually supposed to have control of the budget. Seems pretty clear that they aren't.
concordtom
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sycasey said:

Also, maybe Congress should be let in on this plan, given that they are actually supposed to have control of the budget. Seems pretty clear that they aren't.


Yeah, he's just winging it.
I am stupefied how Trump has had any success.
It's just complete insanity that someone could win by being as unhinged as he is.

It's very sad commentary on USA that this could have ever come to pass. We are idiots electing idiots.
 
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