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yeah 7' 215 lbs aziz bandaogo from dakar with the monster block, he's a player to watch this tuesday march 28th at 6:30 pm (mst) when coach madsen's 28-8 utah valley wolverines take on them uab blazers at the orleans arena in las vegas in the nit semifinals

aziz averaged an intergalactic dominating 10.2 rebounds per game this season to go along with a 11.5 ppg on an efficient 60.2% field goals along with 2.9 blocks per game & only 1.6 turnovers per game

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this **** is getting live#
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isa silva, point guard of the future in berkeley
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BearlyCareAnymore said:

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I worked for five years at Stanford. Many people I met thought that Arriaga and his family had far too much influence. They even had their own private office. I was also at Michigan. They have many large and influential donors. But I never heard of anyone dictating the selection of coaches. You still have to try to have a professionally-managed organization.
Exactly. Cal's last two men's hoops coaches have been awful and fans are frustrated. When one or more donors push the narrative that a certain candidate is the answer to Cal's problems, the AD should listen. However, if that candidate carries ethical baggage and has annoyed people at Cal who know him, the AD is obligated to find someone who is a better fit and then rally as many donors and other alumni as possible around that candidate. I like everything I've read about Masden and hope people will enthusiastically support him.
Did AAR carry ethical baggage?

You're missing the point - this has very little to do with JP or for that matter Madsen. This has everything to do with building support for your program from key donors and former players which is critical for a variety of reasons including NIL and the practice facility.

With the right process, Knowlton could have hired Madsen and maintained that support. But he failed at that - again -- because he's incompetent and arrogant.






Absolutely no one said donors should dictate the hire, so they are arguing against a straw man. As I said elsewhere, a good AD hires who he wants and makes the donors think it was their idea. The problem is hiring whoever you want and making the donors think you don't care what they think. Especially when the last time they were asked to pay for a buyout and you did what you wanted they got Mark Fox, an extension, and then asked to fund another buyout.

It is amazing to me how many people here seem to think that donors are morally obligated to give money. We should be apologizing for how we have squandered their charity over the years


I'm glad we agree that donors should not dictate who is hired as coach. It sure seems that a lot of people here are upset that a candidate pushed by one or possibly more donors was not selected even though there are issues with that candidate. I was not on the phone with Knowlton and major donors so I don't know what was discussed, but I do know that some donors are less reasonable/more entitled/harder to manage than others. I also know that I'd be terrible at handling such individuals.
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gocal80, you did a nice job succinctly summarizing why the odds of cal basketball becoming a nationally ranked program again with mcdonalds all americans & a sold out haas during the cal's monster era are kinda low (but not impossible for mark madsen)

u & knowlton gotta lotta similar views, maybe u 2 could grab coffee or something & talk about them outta control entitled donors that wanna impose their will when in reality the hiring and management of the cal revenue sports should be left to the professionals in the cal athletic department
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gocal80, you did a nice job succinctly summarizing why the odds of cal basketball becoming a nationally ranked program again with mcdonalds all americans & a sold out haas during the cal's monster era are kinda low (but not impossible for mark madsen)

u & knowlton gotta lotta similar views, maybe u 2 could grab coffee or something & talk about them outta control entitled donors that wanna impose their will when in reality the hiring and management of the cal revenue sports should be left to the professionals in the cal athletic department


You sure like to make assumptions about what is going on behind the scenes. I'd never bet against Mark Madsen's chances for building a successful program here out of the ashes left by Fox. Listen to the interview with Madsen posted by Sluggo in another thread.
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GoCal80 said:

BearlyCareAnymore said:

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I worked for five years at Stanford. Many people I met thought that Arriaga and his family had far too much influence. They even had their own private office. I was also at Michigan. They have many large and influential donors. But I never heard of anyone dictating the selection of coaches. You still have to try to have a professionally-managed organization.
Exactly. Cal's last two men's hoops coaches have been awful and fans are frustrated. When one or more donors push the narrative that a certain candidate is the answer to Cal's problems, the AD should listen. However, if that candidate carries ethical baggage and has annoyed people at Cal who know him, the AD is obligated to find someone who is a better fit and then rally as many donors and other alumni as possible around that candidate. I like everything I've read about Masden and hope people will enthusiastically support him.
Did AAR carry ethical baggage?

You're missing the point - this has very little to do with JP or for that matter Madsen. This has everything to do with building support for your program from key donors and former players which is critical for a variety of reasons including NIL and the practice facility.

With the right process, Knowlton could have hired Madsen and maintained that support. But he failed at that - again -- because he's incompetent and arrogant.






Absolutely no one said donors should dictate the hire, so they are arguing against a straw man. As I said elsewhere, a good AD hires who he wants and makes the donors think it was their idea. The problem is hiring whoever you want and making the donors think you don't care what they think. Especially when the last time they were asked to pay for a buyout and you did what you wanted they got Mark Fox, an extension, and then asked to fund another buyout.

It is amazing to me how many people here seem to think that donors are morally obligated to give money. We should be apologizing for how we have squandered their charity over the years


I'm glad we agree that donors should not dictate who is hired as coach. It sure seems that a lot of people here are upset that a candidate pushed by one or possibly more donors was not selected even though there are issues with that candidate. I was not on the phone with Knowlton and major donors so I don't know what was discussed, but I do know that some donors are less reasonable/more entitled/harder to manage than others. I also know that I'd be terrible at handling such individuals.


This is going to be far too simplified, but what donors wanted was EITHER 1. A candidate they knew they could get behind (and I don't believe that was only JP for most; ) OR 2. A decision process they could get behind. The process clearly didn't matter if it spit out a candidate they felt was a known quantity, but it did matter if it didn't. Many feel they got neither. Nor were given at least a "this is what we are thinking and this is why" call. They were given a "this is what we've done and you are still giving all that money you promised even though I did nothing you asked, right? What do you mean no?" call.

And I would lay-off the stating as fact that Pasternack has all these flaws. (Just as I cautioned the opposite before). The AD knows that is who a significant segment of donors wanted so predictably for Cal they are slamming him behind the scenes. I would remind you that when some questioned why we didn't hire Gates instead of Jones, rumors came out that he wasn't just a poor interview but absolutely unprofessional and horrible. It is apparently the only interview before or since that he didn't knock out of the park.

It is what Cal does.
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GoCal80 said:

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gocal80, you did a nice job succinctly summarizing why the odds of cal basketball becoming a nationally ranked program again with mcdonalds all americans & a sold out haas during the cal's monster era are kinda low (but not impossible for mark madsen)

u & knowlton gotta lotta similar views, maybe u 2 could grab coffee or something & talk about them outta control entitled donors that wanna impose their will when in reality the hiring and management of the cal revenue sports should be left to the professionals in the cal athletic department


You sure like to make assumptions about what is going on behind the scenes. I'd never bet against Mark Madsen's chances for building a successful program here out of the ashes left by Fox. Listen to the interview with Madsen posted by Sluggo in another thread.
gocal, making zero assumptions here & definitely rooting for mark madsen to be successful in berkeley

my movie recommendation for u tonite is hoosiers, it's a great story about a time & place when hard work & perseverance could win championships & not paying players (other than pizza slices)

if u got good reading comprehension skillz u might even be able to figure out who mm is gonna bring to berkeley thru the portal if the nil money is there...

be well, amigo
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aziz is truly an impact post player with +1 athleticism & potential nba upside

bandaogo scored 14 points on an efficient 5-9 field goals (love the alley oop lobs over the top), got a fluid free throw shooting stroke 3-4 free throws, knocked down a manute bol 3 pointer from the 7th green at shadow creek, absolutely dominated the glass with 16 rebounds & perhaps most important committed only 1 turnover

defensively he alters shots in the paint but needs to work hard in a s&c program to get his body right for the next level...his listed height of 7' appears to be legit but does not look like he's currently carrying the listed 230 lbs...with more muscle aziz will float less on the perimeter offensively & impose his will more around the bucket and defensively not lose position in the paint against heftier post players

yeah make no mistake about it aziz bandaogo is truly unforgettable, #55 gonna ride with me boss



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stu said:

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the flawed search process

so past resentments (and other conflicts of interest) against pasternack played a key role in him getting passed up by for mark madsen who is by all accounts a good coach who will elevate the program if he can find a true facilitating/distributing point guard between now & the 1st day of classes this fall

In addition to some true facilitating/distributing donors.
that will be the top priority in fundraising nil dollars for players along with securing the recommitments of rodney brown & devin curtis along with the successful signing of his 3 potential targeted already identified potential transfer portal players at positions of need (point guard & center)
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trey woodbury
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MADD DOG - - new Coach!
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major basketball recruiting news re: rodney brown
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classy congrats from 2 of berkeley's greatest legends#
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the non stoned walton (the conference of champions)#
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led high school to 3 nevada state championships, winner in every sense of the word
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great to note that highly respected west coast elite aau head coach ryan silver is noting that cal got "two monster commitments in the pipeline" in sharpshooter rodney brown & bouncy post devin curtis

cal's monster class circa 2023#
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big c, the pro babysitting move preferred by the shockster thru the years is leaving the kiddos at the 7/11 on shattuck with a couple of bucks on gamedays & just ask the dude with the arctic monkeys t-shirt/glazed over eyes to keep an eye on them but nice of you to offer to babysit trey's grandkids at haas, just get them some pink cotton candy & tell them to run around for a couple of hours

plz don't share with nobody but below is a confidential video sent to me by mark madsen of trey getting mobbed by some rando females when he wuz at a volleyball game or something, apparently this is a common occurrence when women see woodbury...guy is totally like j kidd in a lotta ways both on & off the court

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loosely edited transcript from 12:42 pm on saturday september 10th, 2022 at memorial stadium:

4th gen bear (waving at me, he sits 3 rows down on the 50 yard line in around the 25th row): hey shocky, get over here, there's somebody i want you to meet, joel brown

shocky (fist bumping): what up, joel, ima shocky, your my favorite player, you gotta lotta energy except when you dribble with you head down to nowhere

joel: well, thanks i guess

shocky: so what's your gpa?

joel: pretty good, i'm going to graduate from the haas business school

shocky: me too, glad your not a dumb azz, are you working on your crooked azz shooting?

4th gen bear is kinda shaking his head, how did this conversation go so far off the rails he's wondering

shocky: hey randy should hook you up with his friend who is the shooting whisperer, don't be fooled by the fact that he's a girl's high school basketball coach at pinewood high school, he knows his stuff

joel: well actually coach fox has been working with me on my stroke this summer, this is my first real summer staying in berkeley

shocky: show me

joel demonstrates the new stroke for the shockster with an imaginary basketball, his elbow is perpendicular to the basket kinda like pure shooters j-mat and the bird, there's no more of that protruding chicken elbow that has marred his stroke in past seasons

shocky (getting excited): dude, that stroke is a 1000% better, your the only +1 athlete on the team, there's literally no reason you can't attack the baket this season knowing you can knock down the free throws when you get hacked by defenders that are gonna be a step too late to your blur game...what's gonna be your free throw percentage this season?

joel (with a big azz smile): thanks, hope to shoot in the high 80s this season...think in the past i kinda let the mental part of shooting bother me too much plus maybe i wasn't in as good as shape and my legs let me down particularly late in games

shocky (nodding his head): yeah your shot has been way too flat during your time in berkeley, do you know where your shots miss, are you familiar with splatter charts?

joel: no

shocky: splatter charts are used in the nba by scouts and player development coaches to determine where shots are missed, are they left or right which is a huge red flag or are they missed long or short?

joel (deep in thought): last season most of my misses were usually short

shocky: right and that's because your shots had too low of a flat trajectory because of the chicken wing stroke and also because you weren't driving with your legs fluidly thru the stroke...dude, your good to go now, can't wait to see you ball out this season

joel: thanks, really looking forward to playing with our improved talent this season, playing with devin askew is gonna be really fun

shocky: well, that's good to hear, i got high hopes for you joel, do you speak canadian?



the magic of cal basketball (cal's monster class)#
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coach madsen is gonna offer joel brown the opportunity to return out of the grad transfer portal as a scholly player with the understanding that it will be a locker room leadership/probable back up role goal at point guard

yeah with a haas biz ad degree & +1 athleticism from the #1 ranked public university in the world, joel not only gotta lotta energy but he also gotta lotta choices too

we shall see

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great to hear Joel may come back- awesome guy & unreal speed. I feel like with a better developer and coach he could be an insane weapon
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coastie, joel wuz last season's only +1 athlete (which allows him to create separation which is a major nba evaluation metric) on the roster, he can speed by defenders in a blink of an eye & 100% agreed with better coaching (there's still room for improvement with his shooting mechanics & also dribbling with eyes/vision upwards) his best basketball is still in from of him

will be interesting to see how this plays out, what level of interest from other schools & whether or not they are willing to turn the keys over in running the 1 will be key factors in whatever happens next

but gotta luv coach masden's approach of being transparently honest with players, kinda reminds me of monty's tuff luv...sat in the seat 2 feet behind mike at the thunderdome when the bears lost to the gauchos back in the day, montgomery pulled jabari out of the game with 5 minutes to go & tole a crying bird (who put a towel over his head) in a low voice that until jabari learned how to play fundamentally sound defense, he could not take a chance playing his mcdonalds all american in tight games
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The big question may be, are the donors gonna continue to sit out, or are they going to rally around this chance to get us back on track.

Yeah, so he wasn't their first or second pick, but hopefully his success won't be JKs success, let it be the M2's success, the player's success, Cal's success, and let the donors help make that happen.
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jennifer simon o'neil monster profile:

when the monster wuz around the athletic department on a regular basis back during the cal's monster class days it was well known by multiple coaches in multiple different sports that teri mckeever wuz mentally abusing the women's swimmers but that she wuz enabled by her close friend (mckeever is her child's godmother) & athletic department chief of staff (#2 ranking bureaucrat) jennifer simon o'neil

with her close friendship with mckeever in mind simon o'neil is flat out lying when she's quoted in the munger report that she wuz not aware of any issues within the women's swimming program...wut???

and given that she is the #2 person in the cal athletic department it's hard to believe the con artist didn't know anything also but his ability to misread people & situations is remarkable as his annual average salary of $1,300,000+ thru 2029

simon-o'neil has taken a page out of the knowlton paranoid/lack of transparency playbook by not making any twitter posts in almost 2 years...she has also retroactively scrubbed her twitter free of any references to the women's swimming program...what athletic department in the united states of america got the 2 highest rankings employees not on twitter?

donating to these non communicative worthless bureaucrats that are myopically working to deemphasize the revenue sports in berkeley is akin to burning ur $$$$$$ in the dumpster behind haas, it is recommended that you withhold donations until andrew mcgraw is named the new athletic director

and this will happen, multiple different major donors have confirmed to me during the last week that chancellor chryst knows now she made a mistake extending james arthur knowlton & lacks confidence in his abilities/decision making

wheels in motion#

who is james arthur knowlton's #1 confidante in the athletic department?

the con artist is still very tight with the athletic department's #2 in charge, the worthless bureaucrat mckeever enabler jennifer simon-o'neil who shares his resentment of football & men's basketball

this past basketball season on the journey to florida for the preseason tournament, the men's team took a prop plane which had to refuel which resulted in a 11 hour trip to the sunshine state, guys were 100% exhausted, the cost of this mismanaged transportation wuz $40,000

"jenny" & cal's compliance department (i have requested a conference call with them during the next 2 weeks) have convinced the dumb azz athletic director that due to their title ix misinterpretation that the department must spend an equal amount on women's basketball, no other school in the nation shares this view...so charmin (the worst current pac 12 women's basketball coach, will likely lose every pac 12 game next season) took a jet recruiting trip back east (which has resulted in zero results/prospects) that cost $40,000

u would have to be dumb as **** to donate to the athletic department these days, any dollars should be routed directly to the football & basketball nil funds

aziz bondaogo & trey woodbury aren't coming to berkeley without nil dollars & with the knowlton misrepresentation of nil dollars to mark madsen there is chaos within the athletic department (as usual)

meanwhile shocky is raising millions of dollars for animal advocacy in maricopa county, them doggys lick my face with love every time we do our lucky leash walks in the desert
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GoCal80 said:

annarborbear said:

I worked for five years at Stanford. Many people I met thought that Arriaga and his family had far too much influence. They even had their own private office. I was also at Michigan. They have many large and influential donors. But I never heard of anyone dictating the selection of coaches. You still have to try to have a professionally-managed organization.
Exactly. Cal's last two men's hoops coaches have been awful and fans are frustrated. When one or more donors push the narrative that a certain candidate is the answer to Cal's problems, the AD should listen. However, if that candidate carries ethical baggage and has annoyed people at Cal who know him, the AD is obligated to find someone who is a better fit and then rally as many donors and other alumni as possible around that candidate. I like everything I've read about Masden and hope people will enthusiastically support him.
See, that last part about rallying as many donors and alums as possible is what did not happen. What competent AD doesn't do that if he knows that very large donations are riding on his ability to manage those relationships even while he is choosing a different candidate than they wanted? This isn't about whether in the end Madsen is a good choice to coach Cal. It's about the inept running of a multi-million dollar business dependent on donors to survive.
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Yes. But we already knew - and have known - that we have an "incompetent" AD, so why is anyone surprised that his abject incompetence might rear its ugly head at some point during THIS hiring process? We should move on, and support the "team", and "the new HC".
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We need to go after Fardaws Aimaq, who previously played for Madsen. He may be the centerpiece to build around since he has many teammates from Texas Tech that will be transferring, and also his UVU teammates which are predicted too as well. The main guy to look for on that UVU roster is Aziz Bandaogo and Trey Woodbury, who just filed a waiver to receive an extra year. Trey & Fardaws are said to have been roommates / great friends. If we can get two of those three in a package, that would be an immense start to this off-season.

The big question mark will be if Madsen presents this to the NIL people to fundraise for what this may cost. I would assume if the logistics line up, he can influence them to join him at Cal. They all seem to talk highly of him!
fardaws aimaq is a very good college basketball player, aziz bandaogo is an elite program changing +1 athletic talent that will require major nil dollars

there is zero chance that michigan's hunter dickinson is gonna end up in berkeley
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We need to go after Fardaws Aimaq, who previously played for Madsen. He may be the centerpiece to build around since he has many teammates from Texas Tech that will be transferring, and also his UVU teammates which are predicted too as well. The main guy to look for on that UVU roster is Aziz Bandaogo and Trey Woodbury, who just filed a waiver to receive an extra year. Trey & Fardaws are said to have been roommates / great friends. If we can get two of those three in a package, that would be an immense start to this off-season.

The big question mark will be if Madsen presents this to the NIL people to fundraise for what this may cost. I would assume if the logistics line up, he can influence them to join him at Cal. They all seem to talk highly of him!
fardaws aimaq is a very good college basketball player, aziz bandaogo is an elite program changing +1 athletic talent that will require major nil dollars

there is zero chance that michigan's hunter dickinson is gonna end up in berkeley

Bandaogo reminded me of Mouhamed Gueye (whom I love), especially when he hit the three. How would you compare the two?
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drizzlybear said:

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We need to go after Fardaws Aimaq, who previously played for Madsen. He may be the centerpiece to build around since he has many teammates from Texas Tech that will be transferring, and also his UVU teammates which are predicted too as well. The main guy to look for on that UVU roster is Aziz Bandaogo and Trey Woodbury, who just filed a waiver to receive an extra year. Trey & Fardaws are said to have been roommates / great friends. If we can get two of those three in a package, that would be an immense start to this off-season.

The big question mark will be if Madsen presents this to the NIL people to fundraise for what this may cost. I would assume if the logistics line up, he can influence them to join him at Cal. They all seem to talk highly of him!
fardaws aimaq is a very good college basketball player, aziz bandaogo is an elite program changing +1 athletic talent that will require major nil dollars

there is zero chance that michigan's hunter dickinson is gonna end up in berkeley

Bandaogo reminded me of Mouhamed Gueye (whom I love), especially when he hit the three. How would you compare the two?
funny u see that comparison too drizzly, when i heard that during masden's interview that he hoped to bring bandaogo, i sent an email to hoop dreams giving him the recruiting scoop & tole him that he reminded me in so many ways of mohamed gueye

aziz's ability to rebound with 10+ rebounds per game & defend the paint with +1 athleticism is unreal

but this not gonna happen without an attractive nil dollar deal
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there is zero chance that michigan's hunter dickinson is gonna end up in berkeley
kinda sad & funny to think there are naive cal fans that still hope he's gonna somehow end up in berkeley, that's not how things work in 2023

dickinson will have nil offers from well funded multi million dollars nil programs like duke & notre dame that will potentially be south of $1,000,000...cal''s nil goal is targeting $1,500,000 total & has not raised that level of funding yet

the con artist (and mike montomgery) did not consider donor participating in nil funding & its impact upon transfer portal recruiting, joe pasternack had the funding in place

rooting for mark to move the program but there's a better chance of jaylen brown regaining eligiiblity than hunter dickinson signing with cal
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Shocky1 said:

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there is zero chance that michigan's hunter dickinson is gonna end up in berkeley
kinda sad & funny to think there are naive cal fans that still hope he's gonna somehow end up in berkeley, that's not how things work in 2023

dickinson will have nil offers from well funded multi million dollars nil programs like duke & notre dame that will potentially be south of $1,000,000...cal''s nil goal is targeting $1,500,000 total & has not raised that level of funding yet

the con artist (and mike montomgery) did not consider donor participating in nil funding & its impact upon transfer portal recruiting, joe pasternack had the funding in place

rooting for mark to move the program but there's a better chance of jaylen brown regaining eligiiblity than hunter dickinson signing with cal
We should sell clothing for the NIL stuff. I saw Dickinson while at UMich was selling "Big Dickinson Energy" clothing. We could do that here and get to a mill or 2
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SBGold said:

Shocky1 said:

Shocky1 said:



there is zero chance that michigan's hunter dickinson is gonna end up in berkeley
kinda sad & funny to think there are naive cal fans that still hope he's gonna somehow end up in berkeley, that's not how things work in 2023

dickinson will have nil offers from well funded multi million dollars nil programs like duke & notre dame that will potentially be south of $1,000,000...cal''s nil goal is targeting $1,500,000 total & has not raised that level of funding yet

the con artist (and mike montomgery) did not consider donor participating in nil funding & its impact upon transfer portal recruiting, joe pasternack had the funding in place

rooting for mark to move the program but there's a better chance of jaylen brown regaining eligiiblity than hunter dickinson signing with cal
We should sell clothing for the NIL stuff. I saw Dickinson while at UMich was selling "Big Dickinson Energy" clothing. We could do that here and get to a mill or 2


I like it!

I want to be the only kid on my block wearing a signed Lars jersey.

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dimtrig, sei kein dummer azz
 
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