I bet American citizens would just love a $1,000 check from the USG right before midterms.

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MinotStateBeav said:

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Elon is doing a lot of new things, some things work, some won't. We'll see over time how effective they are. Doing the same thing as before has proven to be not effective.

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The same things that made the US the wealthiest country in the world and the preeminent global power?

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I don't think it accurate to say a country that has a $36 trillion dollar debt and operates at a $1.8 trillion + annual deficit is the world's wealthiest country. And even it it is, it is on a path to financial ruin given the debt/deficits.

And this is not just about economics. It is about reshaping government in accordance with Trump's views and preferred policies. He campaigned on that platform and elections have consequences. It is fair to say you think the policies are wrong. However, that doesn't make what Trump is doing illegal or improper. Per the US constitution, it is his right to change/shape the executive branch.

Rather than objecting to the policies, many dems (including in that the press) are waging personal attacks on Trump/Musk.

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I am objecting to the policies.

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And also launching a lot of political attacks on Musk and Trump in lieu of setting forth your policy arguments. .

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sycasey said:

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MinotStateBeav said:

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Elon is doing a lot of new things, some things work, some won't. We'll see over time how effective they are. Doing the same thing as before has proven to be not effective.

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The same things that made the US the wealthiest country in the world and the preeminent global power?

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I don't think it accurate to say a country that has a $36 trillion dollar debt and operates at a $1.8 trillion + annual deficit is the world's wealthiest country. And even it it is, it is on a path to financial ruin given the debt/deficits.

And this is not just about economics. It is about reshaping government in accordance with Trump's views and preferred policies. He campaigned on that platform and elections have consequences. It is fair to say you think the policies are wrong. However, that doesn't make what Trump is doing illegal or improper. Per the US constitution, it is his right to change/shape the executive branch.

Rather than objecting to the policies, many dems (including in that the press) are waging personal attacks on Trump/Musk.

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I am objecting to the policies.

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And also launching a lot of political attacks on Musk and Trump in lieu of setting forth your policy arguments. .

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Oh no, not political attacks!

Musk: "Donny, I think I'll chair the upcoming Cabinet meeting. Instruct the members that attire will be t shirts and tennis shoes…..and I will be bringing X and a few of my other kids so have snacks and games.

Trump: "Yes, Sir."

Musk to join Trump's first White House Cabinet meeting


https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5163375-musk-trump-cabinet-meeting/

*With all the lies Karoline Leavitt has to tell, she will have a breakdown eventually.

You omitted Democrats doxxing an existing manager that is working with DOGE, setting her up for violent attack.

DOGE and Leavitt must not know what transparency means.

Q: Who’s DOGE administrator?
LEAVITT (feigning exasperation): Elon Musk is overseeing DOGE.
Q: He’s the administrator?
LEAVITT (feigning exasperation): No, he’s a special govt employee.
Q: Who’s the admin?
LEAVITT: I’m not going to reveal that...We’ve been incredibly transparent. pic.twitter.com/X7lwRgRMjw

— Roger Sollenberger (@SollenbergerRC) February 25, 2025

BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAA!!!

She's such a MORON.

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BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAA!!!

She's such a MORON.

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BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAA!!!

She is being misquoted and you took the bait.

You were so SLOPPY.

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For starters, I guess you've never heard of the appointments clause or the impound act.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/24/judge-questions-constitutionality-doge-elon-musk-00205866

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Not only have I heard of the appointments clause and the impoundment control act, but unlike you, I understand them.

DOGE is the successor/renamed entity to the USDS, which was established by . . . . Barack Obama. It has never been run by an senate approved officer - always by an appointed inferior officer ("administrator"). Until Musk/Trump, no one thought it was operating afoul of the appointments clause. Only a liberal 81 year old judge and other deranged partisans would think such a thing. It will not stand up on appeal.

And even if it does, Trump can appoint any senate confirmed officer (Rubio, Bessent, Kash Patel, Bondi) to run DOGE. Musk can then continue to do everything he's doing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Digital_Service

Beyond that, Musk is not running DOGE. He is a special governmental employee under the auspices of the Treasury department. As such, he is entitled to have access to government records. Anita Dunn was an SGE for Biden. Huma Abedin was Hillary's SGE. Cheryl Mills was an SGE. There is nothing unusual about a president having an SGE to help with a specialize issue.

The lawfare is only delaying the inevitable. There is a 0% chance that the supreme court rules the chief executive/President is barred from having his subordinates perform an audit of executive agencies. And in that regard, Trump is setting up a direct challenge to the Impoundment Control Act. There's a good chance he wins that case as well.

More than 1 million federal employees complied with Musk's 'what did you do last week' email: WH https://t.co/kuEQEAdOjZ

— Fox News (@FoxNews) February 25, 2025

1 out of 350 Americans complied! Quite remarkable, actually.

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Beyond that, Musk is not running DOGE.

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LOL

Found some real fraud for DOGE to investigate.

Quite a scandal: Biden was prepared to spend a few hundred thousand dollars on Teslas for the State Department, and the Trump administration altered that to $400 million, then back-dated the records to make it look like Biden did it.

State canceled the contract after… https://t.co/HWMmSGUSza

— Ryan Grim (@ryangrim) February 26, 2025

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The lawfare is only delaying the inevitable. There is a 0% chance that the supreme court rules the chief executive/President is barred from having his subordinates perform an audit of executive agencies. And in that regard, Trump is setting up a direct challenge to the Impoundment Control Act. There's a good chance he wins that case as well.

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You might want to review the Impoundment Control Act of 1974.

In Trump's telling, presidents were allowed to freely wield impoundment power until 1974. That's when the government, during the Watergate era, enacted the Impoundment Control Act, which restricts presidents from unilaterally impounding funds.

"This disaster of a law is clearly unconstitutional a blatant violation of the separation of powers," Trump said.

However, a long line of legal scholars, officials and judges from both major political parties including Brett Kavanaugh, who was appointed by Trump to the Supreme Court has rejected the idea that the president has a constitutional power to ignore spending laws. They say that the Constitution clearly gives Congress the power of the purse and that this includes the power to tell the executive branch how much and how little to spend on things (when those spending directives have passed both houses of Congress and been signed into law by a president, or when, in the face of a presidential veto, Congress passes the spending law with a supermajority in both chambers).

Can Trump ignore Congress' spending laws? The debate over 'impoundment' : Planet Money : NPR

BREAKING (Fox News) — Federal agencies told to brace for large-scale layoffs pic.twitter.com/FG5rVBw31e

— Election Wizard (@ElectionWiz) February 26, 2025

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Found some real fraud for DOGE to investigate.

Quite a scandal: Biden was prepared to spend a few hundred thousand dollars on Teslas for the State Department, and the Trump administration altered that to $400 million, then back-dated the records to make it look like Biden did it.

State canceled the contract after… https://t.co/HWMmSGUSza

— Ryan Grim (@ryangrim) February 26, 2025

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Your link seems like some liberal lies. Why would they contract for roughly twelve Teslas? Why was the contract "altered" before Trump even took office?

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Musk: "Donny, I think I'll chair the upcoming Cabinet meeting. Instruct the members that attire will be t shirts and tennis shoes……..

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….and you thought I was making this sh@it up….


" …anyone unhappy with Elon? If you are, we'll throw them out of here," Trump asked the room at one point, eliciting some chuckles."
-The Hill

*Bobby Jr had the same look on his face as when Trump forced him to take that picture on his plane eating a Big Mac, you know, the same facial expression your dog has right before he pops his cookies.

Mark my earlier prediction, Rubio or Bobby Jr. will be the first to vamoose when their personal debasement levels are finally exceeded. The rest will be taking cyanide in the bunker at Mar a Lago with The Boss.

"President Trump on Tuesday shared an AI-generated video depicting the devastated Gaza Strip as an opulent resort emblazoned with his name. The video was immediately scorned by many Palestinians."
-NY Times



Trump Shares Bizarre AI Vision For Gaza 'Riviera' Utopia


https://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-shares-bizarre-ai-generated-vision-for-gaza-utopia-complete-with-bearded-belly-dancers-and-gold-statue-of-himself/

" Serious question to every sycophant falling in line for this terrorist attack on Democracy? What does it feel like to know that you are the reason it is happening?"
-Fred Gutenberg

The debt is exploding as legislators rev up new tax cuts. DOGE is a smokescreen

Our Government:

- let in 35 - 55 million illegal under educated workers
- Biden flew in and spurred 8 - 15 million illegal immigrants himself
- ran up a crippling $36 Trillion in debt
- $1.1 Trillion in interest payments per year
- hasn't adjusted the Social Security system in years though people now live to be 88, or much older
- many urban schools have 20% or less of their students pass basic proficiency
- policies drove out middle class manufacturing jobs