Discussion on Musk's DoGE ideas, the federal deficit, and GDP

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Zippergate
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Mitch has never been MAGA. He's your party, the Uniparty.
DiabloWags
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Zippergate said:

Mitch has never been MAGA. He's your party, the Uniparty.

How's Pete Hegseth doing today?
Is he still digging a deeper hole and claiming that he shared no sensitive military information?

Zippergate
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This is really bad. If the facts bear it out, he should resign. I think Lutnick should go as well. But why do you keep changing the topic? Are we just here for drive-by insults?
movielover
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Smells like C-A op. Jeffrey Goldberg?
sycasey
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Zippergate said:

Mitch has never been MAGA. He's your party, the Uniparty.
It's funny how you guys talk about Mitch McConnell as though normie Dems are fans of his. No, they f***ing hate him.
Zippergate
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Mitch is a RINO sellout, thoroughly uniparty. Like Liz Cheney and Mitt Romney, the kind of "Republican" Dems love. What exactly is a normie Democrat?
sycasey
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Zippergate said:

Mitch is a RINO sellout, thoroughly uniparty. Like Liz Cheney and Mitt Romney, the kind of "Republican" Dems love. What exactly is a normie Democrat?
"Normie" in the sense of average, middle-of-the-road, etc. They hate Mitch.
Eastern Oregon Bear
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Zippergate said:

Mitch is a RINO sellout, thoroughly uniparty. Like Liz Cheney and Mitt Romney, the kind of "Republican" Dems love. What exactly is a normie Democrat?
He may be a RINO sellout, but he's never been a friend to Democrats. I'll be celebrating when he leaves office. Just like you.
bear2034
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Taco Tuesday. Margaritas. The two women next to me at the bar said they had a tough day at work, I asked why? They were federal government workers, middle aged, brunettes, bearister's type. A bunch of people left their group or were laid off and they're only allowed to hire one new worker for every four who leave. So, they're swamped. They still have to send a weekly email that summarizes what they did in 5 bullet points. I told them no one is going to read their emails but they already knew that. I asked them if they wanted to go outside and burn some Teslas. They laughed and we ordered more margaritas....
movielover
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Smooth.
sycasey
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bear2034 said:

Taco Tuesday. Margaritas. The two women next to me at the bar said they had a tough day at work, I asked why? They were federal government workers, middle aged, brunettes, bearister's type. A bunch of people left their group or were laid off and they're only allowed to hire one new worker for every four who leave. So, they're swamped. They still have to send a weekly email that summarizes what they did in 5 bullet points. I told them no one is going to read their emails but they already knew that. I asked them if they wanted to go outside and burn some Teslas. They laughed and we ordered more margaritas....
Did you tell them you were in favor of their colleagues getting fired?
bear2034
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I told them they better start learning how to code?
sycasey
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bear2034 said:

I told them they better start learning how to code?

Smooth.
Eastern Oregon Bear
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sycasey said:

bear2034 said:

I told them they better start learning how to code?

Smooth.
Even bear2034 recommends service jobs over the millions and millions of manufacturing jobs Trump is promising to bring back to America.
movielover
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Reportedly four new LNG export terminals in the works down south.

How about those egg prices!? Eggsellent.

https://www.perishablenews.com/dairy/u-s-wholesale-egg-prices-plummet-but-volatility-remains/

Zippergate
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

sycasey said:

bear2034 said:

I told them they better start learning how to code?

Smooth.
Even bear2034 recommends service jobs over the millions and millions of manufacturing jobs Trump is promising to bring back to America.
Have a look at what the US exports to China and try to explain that using classical economics. When you enjoy the "exorbitant privilege" of having the world's reserve currency, you can get away with not actually making things...for a while. But the era of cheap imported manufactured goods is coming to an end and it has very little to with Trump or even Biden for that matter; it's about decades of "free trade."
sycasey
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Eastern Oregon Bear
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sycasey said:


Fortunately (or unfortunately), my agency told us not to send our 5 bullet emails to OPM, just to our local supervisor who will archive them. My supervisor knows what I've done each week, but I'm still doing my best on it. I'm having NO trouble coming up with 5 items. Usually I leave a couple out.
movielover
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He's talking worse-case, impossible scenario. All NGOs aren't getting cut off, and cuts don't happen all at once. Same for illegal immigrants, where deportations have slowed.



movielover
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I thought they were all 17-year-old needs?

kelly09
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movielover said:

I thought they were all 17-year-old needs?


None of them is as smart as Reps Crock of it and Swallow well
DiabloWags
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Zippergate said:

Mitch has never been MAGA. He's your party, the Uniparty.


I disagree.

He literally thumbed his nose at Dems for all the years he was the Senate Minority Leader.

Moreover, were you living in a cave in 2016 when he screwed Judge Merrick Garland and the Dems?

How do you not remember that?

McConnell literally paved the way for a number of conservative judges on SCOTUS.

Neil Gorsuch.
Amy Coney Barrett

How do you not know this?

And youre claiming he was the RINO that Dems loved?

Where's your evidence of that?
That's pure fantasy.

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/democrats-mitch-mcconnell-senate-lessons-rcna185869
DiabloWags
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Zippergate said:

This is really bad. If the facts bear it out, he should resign. I think Lutnick should go as well. But why do you keep changing the topic? Are we just here for drive-by insults?


Because much of the time you make some really DUMB CLAIMS like the one about McConnell and its just not worth my time.

So I'll educate you one more final time.

"Perhaps most brazenly, his cynical manipulation of the judicial confirmation process in 2016 prevented consideration of Judge Merrick Garland, a highly qualified if blandly moderate federal jurist, to serve on the US Supreme Court.

McConnell's refusal to allow the Senate to take up the Garland nomination relied on an obvious lie: the claim that the Senate could not weigh high court nominations in presidential election years. In fact, the majority leader was simply keeping the seat open until a Republican president could fill it with a right-wing judicial activist. After Donald Trump's election, McConnell promptly steered Neil Gorsuch to confirmation in 2017. Then, when Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg's death created an election-year opening on the court in 2020, McConnell shamelessly raced to fill the seat with conservative Trump appointee Amy Coney Barrettfinishing his long mission of tipping the balance on the court so that it had an aggressively hard-right, anti-abortion majority. In less than two years, 50 years of precedent was overturned, as McConnell's court overturned Roe v. Wade and opened the way for states to block access to reproductive rights."

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/mitch-mcconnell-retiring-senate/

movielover
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Great overview and examples of government obsolescence. An IT nightmare.





DiabloWags
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movielover said:

Reportedly four new LNG export terminals in the works down south.




Too bad the oil and gas industry is having MAJOR buyer's remorse on Trump

And I bet you cant even figure out why.
Here, let me help you ...

25% tariffs on STEEL and ALUMINUM

Firing key staff at FERC and BLM

Verstehen sie?

MinotStateBeav
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Looking thru DOGE website I was looking at Agency spending...why did the dept of treasury spending go up so drastically between 2019 to 2024?

Department of the Treasury#15

$689.5B in FY 2019
$1311.9B in FY 2024

https://doge.gov/spend
Eastern Oregon Bear
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I'm not being required to send my weekly Five Bullets emails to DOGE/OPM, but I'm hearing from those who do that their inbox is full and emails are bouncing.

Gotta love our competent tech savvy DOGE overlords!
DiabloWags
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MinotStateBeav said:

Looking thru DOGE website I was looking at Agency spending...why did the dept of treasury spending go up so drastically between 2019 to 2024?

Department of the Treasury#15

$689.5B in FY 2019
$1311.9B in FY 2024

https://doge.gov/spend

Must have been Biden propping up the stock and bond markets with Treasury purchases!

Page #18

mts0225.pdf
bearister
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Despite Musk's claims, the Trump administration's spending is on pace to surpass Biden levels - MarketWatch


https://www.marketwatch.com/story/despite-musks-claims-the-trump-administrations-spending-is-on-pace-to-surpass-bidens-levels-19cdf24c


"DOGE has made it increasingly challenging to fact check its assertions after it removed federal identification numbers in its website's source code that could help outsiders identify specifically what grants and contracts the agency is referring to.

That makes it difficult and sometimes impossible to know the vendors the government has contracted with and whether the government is actually saving the amount of money DOGE is claiming it has.

Meanwhile, there are claims on the website that are incorrect. The largest savings asserted by DOGE is a cancelled $1.9 trillion contract for IT modernization. But the contractor awarded the money told the New York Times last month that the award was actually cancelled in November 2024, under President Biden."
"The White House didn't respond to a request for comment.
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Send my credentials to the House of Detention

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sycasey
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bearister said:

Despite Musk's claims, the Trump administration's spending is on pace to surpass Biden levels - MarketWatch


https://www.marketwatch.com/story/despite-musks-claims-the-trump-administrations-spending-is-on-pace-to-surpass-bidens-levels-19cdf24c


"DOGE has made it increasingly challenging to fact check its assertions after it removed federal identification numbers in its website's source code that could help outsiders identify specifically what grants and contracts the agency is referring to.

That makes it difficult and sometimes impossible to know the vendors the government has contracted with and whether the government is actually saving the amount of money DOGE is claiming it has.

Meanwhile, there are claims on the website that are incorrect. The largest savings asserted by DOGE is a cancelled $1.9 trillion contract for IT modernization. But the contractor awarded the money told the New York Times last month that the award was actually cancelled in November 2024, under President Biden."
"The White House didn't respond to a request for comment.
This is always how it goes. A lot of big conservative promises about controlling the budget and then they don't.
DiabloWags
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Well, that didnt take long.
He has announced he will "exit" by end of May.

https://www.thetimes.com/us/american-politics/article/im-almost-done-with-my-revolution-elon-musk-says-njxl7c703
movielover
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"after reducing the US deficit by $1 trillion," - and he has a 130-day limit.

Congress has to vote on a bunch of this, and prior to Trump 2.0 they've been content to spend us off a cliff.
DiabloWags
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Why has the Orange Man mentioned Biden's name on average, 6.3 times a day?

https://www.facebook.com/100059174186752/posts/pfbid02VBD55smXgS4XK45o1ebKXsypuhJkP7iN3n6pPxJ7ozmP6sPbPhz6e3E3S5Qy8Aoel/?mibextid=CDWPTG
DiabloWags
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And yet some of Musk's alleged cuts cant be verified.

And Trump's spending is on pace to exceed Biden's by 7% this year.

Youre terribly gullible.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/despite-musks-claims-the-trump-administrations-spending-is-on-pace-to-surpass-bidens-levels-19cdf24c
DiabloWags
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YOU'RE FIRED.

Trump Tells Inner Circle That Musk Will Leave Soon


 
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