Discussion on Musk's DoGE ideas, the federal deficit, and GDP

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2:18p, 8/14/25
Boom!

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In reply to movielover • 8:16p, 8/14/25
movielover said:
Boom!

DOGE strikes again.

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In reply to bear2034 • 1:31p, 8/17/25
Why are my tax dollars subsidizing SpaceX, a private company?


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In reply to DiabloWags • 1:40p, 8/17/25
DiabloWags said:
Why are my tax dollars subsidizing SpaceX, a private company?





Because they are better than NASA.
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In reply to oski003 • 1:47p, 8/17/25
Because we don't want to leave astronauts stranded on the ISS?

Landing the reusable booster rockets is amazing and a huge cost / efficiency savings. Blue Origin still struggling?
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In reply to movielover • 2:21p, 8/17/25
As you know, SpaceX has received roughly $21 Billion in government contracts.

Of that promised money, $14.6 Billion came from contracts with NASA, covering everything from supply runs to the ISS to the design and testing of a new moon lander.

If NASA chooses to exercise all options in every contract, we are talking a whopping $56.4 Billion!





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In reply to oski003 • 5:49p, 8/17/25
oski003 said:
DiabloWags said:
Why are my tax dollars subsidizing SpaceX, a private company?





Because they are better than NASA.

Agreed, they do litter the lower atmosphere with rocket debris and unburned fuel far more effectively than NASA does. They also litter LEO with thousands of Starlink satellites with a relatively short lifespan.
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In reply to Eastern Oregon Bear • 5:54p, 8/17/25
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
oski003 said:
DiabloWags said:
Why are my tax dollars subsidizing SpaceX, a private company?





Because they are better than NASA.

Agreed, they do litter the lower atmosphere with rocket debris and unburned fuel far more effectively than NASA does. They also litter LEO with thousands of Starlink satellites with a relatively short lifespan.


Your views would 180 If SPACEX and STARLINK were owned by Democrats.
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In reply to oski003 • 6:00p, 8/17/25
oski003 said:
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
oski003 said:
DiabloWags said:
Why are my tax dollars subsidizing SpaceX, a private company?





Because they are better than NASA.

Agreed, they do litter the lower atmosphere with rocket debris and unburned fuel far more effectively than NASA does. They also litter LEO with thousands of Starlink satellites with a relatively short lifespan.


Your views would 180 If SPACEX and STARLINK were owned by Democrats.

No, I value the environment and despise recklessness more than I value the Democratic Party.
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In reply to Eastern Oregon Bear • 6:14p, 8/17/25
Amen.
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In reply to Eastern Oregon Bear • 6:30p, 8/17/25
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
oski003 said:
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
oski003 said:
DiabloWags said:
Why are my tax dollars subsidizing SpaceX, a private company?





Because they are better than NASA.

Agreed, they do litter the lower atmosphere with rocket debris and unburned fuel far more effectively than NASA does. They also litter LEO with thousands of Starlink satellites with a relatively short lifespan.


Your views would 180 If SPACEX and STARLINK were owned by Democrats.

No, I value the environment and despise recklessness more than I value the Democratic Party.


Compared to the rockets that the Airforce and NASA dump into the ocean, SPACEX is much more environmentally friendly. It appears some liberal mumbo jumbo has you (and a certain other EDS afflicted individual) confusing up with down.
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In reply to Eastern Oregon Bear • 7:10p, 8/17/25
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
oski003 said:
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
oski003 said:
DiabloWags said:
Why are my tax dollars subsidizing SpaceX, a private company?





Because they are better than NASA.

Agreed, they do litter the lower atmosphere with rocket debris and unburned fuel far more effectively than NASA does. They also litter LEO with thousands of Starlink satellites with a relatively short lifespan.


Your views would 180 If SPACEX and STARLINK were owned by Democrats.

No, I value the environment and despise recklessness more than I value the Democratic Party.


Then why don't you go help cleanup some disastrous Democrat big cities? Oakland, Stockton, Houston, Detroit.
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In reply to movielover • 10:16p, 8/17/25
movielover said:
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
oski003 said:
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
oski003 said:
DiabloWags said:
Why are my tax dollars subsidizing SpaceX, a private company?





Because they are better than NASA.

Agreed, they do litter the lower atmosphere with rocket debris and unburned fuel far more effectively than NASA does. They also litter LEO with thousands of Starlink satellites with a relatively short lifespan.


Your views would 180 If SPACEX and STARLINK were owned by Democrats.

No, I value the environment and despise recklessness more than I value the Democratic Party.



Then why don't you go help cleanup some disastrous Democrat big cities? Oakland, Stockton, Houston, Detroit.

That's an interestingly partisan and narrow definition of the environment. I do environmental cleanup closer to my home rather than hundreds to thousands of miles away. I do have to show up for my day job after all.
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In reply to oski003 • 10:21p, 8/17/25
oski003 said:
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
oski003 said:
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
oski003 said:
DiabloWags said:
Why are my tax dollars subsidizing SpaceX, a private company?





Because they are better than NASA.

Agreed, they do litter the lower atmosphere with rocket debris and unburned fuel far more effectively than NASA does. They also litter LEO with thousands of Starlink satellites with a relatively short lifespan.


Your views would 180 If SPACEX and STARLINK were owned by Democrats.

No, I value the environment and despise recklessness more than I value the Democratic Party.


Compared to the rockets that the Airforce and NASA dump into the ocean, SPACEX is much more environmentally friendly. It appears some liberal mumbo jumbo has you (and a certain other EDS afflicted individual) confusing up with down.

I'd question whether an intact rocket landing in the ocean is worse than blowing up a rocket and scattering the contents over a broad area, but I'm not in favor of either one despite what a pathological contrarian who has twisted himself into a pretzel to make a contradictory argument thinks.
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