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In reply to sycasey • 4:43p, 8/12/26
sycasey said:
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Wouldn't they want her to win?


Kinda looks like Bernie and AOC knew what they were doing on this one.


She would have been easier to beat in a general also.
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 6:16p, 8/12/26
BearlySane88 said:
sycasey said:
BearlySane88 said:
Wouldn't they want her to win?


Kinda looks like Bernie and AOC knew what they were doing on this one.


She would have been easier to beat in a general also.

They could see that and didn't want to be associated.
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12:00p, 8/31/26
Democrats really don't understand or just don't care about the public's mindset.

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12:02p, 8/31/26
Republicans control both houses in Congress.
It's too bad they know anything about how the economy works.

Maybe they can keep this War going all the way thru midterms.


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In reply to DiabloWags • 12:08p, 8/31/26
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Republicans control both houses in Congress.
It's too bad they know anything about how the economy works.

This thread is about Democrats. Please direct your posts to one of the many Trump/Republican threads that already exist.

Thank you for your consideration.
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In reply to Cal88 • 1:07p, 8/31/26
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bearister said:
It's called gaslighting. I tried cases against attorneys that utilized it. They always lost, but the judges and juries did a lot of head scratching trying to figure out what they were witnessing.

*The possibility exits that it is non responsive involuntary non linear thinking.


I'm doing a lot of head scratching trying to figure out what part of my post you think is gaslighting or what this has to do with your court room history. Let me know when your AI has finished analyzing why a majority of Americans dislike socialists.


A majority of Americans dislike socialism because they are satisfied with their healthcare plans and costs, believe that a college education should cost a quarter million dollars and that spending $10 trillion on forever war is "the cost of freedom".

Democrats only pretend to support fixing healthcare when Republicans are in charge.

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12:04p, 9/1/26
What an exciting forward-thinking agenda Democrats have for us!

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1:16p, 9/1/26
Our platform: genocide and insurance companies.
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3:08p, 9/3/26
Democrats are fighting for you for the issues you care about
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This wasn't even a close vote. The biggest opposition to Prop 40 is billionaires. Looks like the check cleared for San Francisco Democrats who are being bribed to prioritize a few wealthy donors over their people's essential needs.


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In reply to Aunburdened • 3:26p, 9/3/26
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Democrats really don't understand or just don't care about the public's mindset.


That reality doesn't exist

vote blue and vote dems
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In reply to Aunburdened • 3:29p, 9/3/26
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What an exciting forward-thinking agenda Democrats have for us!


Yeah, that translation you posted is way off though. America wants what is listed.

We sure don't love not being insured and paying more due to tariffs and horrible nonsensical wars

VOTE BLUE AND VOTE GAVIN
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In reply to SBGold • 3:30p, 9/3/26
SBGold said:
Aunburdened said:
Democrats really don't understand or just don't care about the public's mindset.


That reality doesn't exist

vote blue and vote dems


It most certainly does exist, just not in the bubble.
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In reply to Aunburdened • 3:32p, 9/3/26
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DiabloWags said:
Republicans control both houses in Congress.
It's too bad they know anything about how the economy works.

This thread is about Democrats. Please direct your posts to one of the many Trump/Republican threads that already exist.

Thank you for your consideration.

BS has argued that threads can wander and weave when I have made the same argument for threads I created (note most of the fun, creative threads on OT are ones that I created). He convinced me at the time, so Wags is good here.

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2:10a, 9/4/26
A quarter of this country is Democrat women. Give them want they want, the dude who murdered the United Healthcare CEO.
Joe Biden pardoned his son, Anthony Fauci, Gen Milley, Schiff, and the J6 Unselect Committee. The mods all voted for Kamala. They had no choice after the Biden coup. The people who shot Trump and Charlie Kirk probably vote Democrat too. The people who were obsessed with Russia hoax, vax status of others, J6, and the Epstein list are ignorant fools. Building genocide could have been prevented. Queers for Palestine. Trans rights. No Kings. Hamas not Hummus. Cousin love. Allahu Akbar.
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12:34a, 9/6/26
Do liberal white women hate Jews too?

If so, Hakeem is in big trouble.
Joe Biden pardoned his son, Anthony Fauci, Gen Milley, Schiff, and the J6 Unselect Committee. The mods all voted for Kamala. They had no choice after the Biden coup. The people who shot Trump and Charlie Kirk probably vote Democrat too. The people who were obsessed with Russia hoax, vax status of others, J6, and the Epstein list are ignorant fools. Building genocide could have been prevented. Queers for Palestine. Trans rights. No Kings. Hamas not Hummus. Cousin love. Allahu Akbar.
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In reply to sycasey • 3:02p, 9/7/26
sycasey said:
BearlySane88 said:
Wouldn't they want her to win?



They know she's kind of a dingbat.


Do Ilhan Omar and Hasan Piker know she's kind of a dingbat?

Am I wrong to lump all Democrats together because I've never seen any of them debate or discuss their differences publicly.
Joe Biden pardoned his son, Anthony Fauci, Gen Milley, Schiff, and the J6 Unselect Committee. The mods all voted for Kamala. They had no choice after the Biden coup. The people who shot Trump and Charlie Kirk probably vote Democrat too. The people who were obsessed with Russia hoax, vax status of others, J6, and the Epstein list are ignorant fools. Building genocide could have been prevented. Queers for Palestine. Trans rights. No Kings. Hamas not Hummus. Cousin love. Allahu Akbar.
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In reply to DaddyLegend • 4:31p, 9/7/26
DaddyLegend said:
sycasey said:
BearlySane88 said:
Wouldn't they want her to win?



They know she's kind of a dingbat.


Do Ilhan Omar and Hasan Piker know she's kind of a dingbat?

Am I wrong to lump all Democrats together because I've never seen any of them debate or discuss their differences publicly.

Hasan can be a little out there too, but he's a guy who rambles on the internet and not in a position of power so I don't care that much.
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In reply to DaddyLegend • 4:58p, 9/7/26
DaddyLegend said:
sycasey said:
BearlySane88 said:
Wouldn't they want her to win?



They know she's kind of a dingbat.


Do Ilhan Omar and Hasan Piker know she's kind of a dingbat?

Am I wrong to lump all Democrats together because I've never seen any of them debate or discuss their differences publicly.

Lump all Democrats together because however they come into the party, they eventually all start saying the same things and voting the exact same way with few deserters. More of a cult than an organization in terms of how everyone must assimilate or be expelled (unless they are an anti-abortion Democrat).
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5:07p, 9/7/26
Hasan Piker would never call himself a Democrat.
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In reply to SBGold • 5:42p, 9/7/26
SBGold said:
Aunburdened said:
DaddyLegend said:
sycasey said:
BearlySane88 said:
Wouldn't they want her to win?



They know she's kind of a dingbat.


Do Ilhan Omar and Hasan Piker know she's kind of a dingbat?

Am I wrong to lump all Democrats together because I've never seen any of them debate or discuss their differences publicly.

Lump all Democrats together because however they come into the party, they eventually all start saying the same things and voting the exact same way with few deserters. More of a cult than an organization in terms of how everyone must assimilate or be expelled (unless they are an anti-abortion Democrat).

Have you all not watched a primary debate in your lives?

My word, we are discussing issues with a special group. And by special, I don't mean super intelligent or advanced.

VOTE BLUE AND VOTE GAVIN

I watched a primary debate once.



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In reply to Aunburdened • 6:28p, 9/7/26
Don't lump us!

Vote Blue and vote Gavin
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In reply to SBGold • 12:53p, 9/8/26
SBGold said:
Don't lump us!

Vote Blue and vote Gavin

I'll let Ben Rhodes lump you. He did a good job today.



https://gvwire.com/2026/09/08/voters-have-spoken-why-arent-democrats-listening/

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Yet in the decade since Mr. Trump's first election, Democrats have played defense: defending legacy programs, marginalized communities, democratic institutions and incumbency. These understandable impulses have at times led to self-destructive excess: prioritizing past achievements, tipping into sanctimonious wokeism, taking ownership of a broken system and resisting generational change. By defining themselves in opposition to Mr. Trump, Democrats have failed to tell a story about the future beyond him.

To break this cycle, Democrats must put themselves on the side of Americans who feel as if they don't have any power or even agency over their future. But that is not how the party is currently seen.

The pollster David Binder has spent this election cycle examining the attitudes of voters who have been willing to switch parties through the Trump decade. "The bottom line is that voters everywhere are saying, 'Nobody is looking out for me,'" he told me. "Republicans, Democrats they all look out for themselves. They get corrupted quickly upon election because they get sucked into a system which is about money, re-election, donors, special interests."

While Democratic leaders would dispute that, Americans aren't wrong to feel a disconnect between themselves and the politicians who represent them. The economic populism that fuels campaigns is often muted in Washington. The backlash to data centers started in communities across the country, not in Congress. The growing opposition to arming the Israeli government is far more pronounced among voters than politicians. While many Democratic candidates refuse corporate PAC money, party leaders in Washington do not.

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In reply to Aunburdened • 1:01p, 9/8/26
what is this cat saying, when I read this :

" The backlash to data centers started in communities across the country, not in Congress. The growing opposition to arming the Israeli government is far more pronounced among voters than politicians. While many Democratic candidates refuse corporate PAC money, party leaders in Washington do not."

Candidates refusing the PAC money, leaders understanding more and more what real world Dems want (me), things are changing nicely.

Don't lump me, I'm not a Beltway insider.


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In reply to sycasey • 11:46p, 9/9/26
sycasey said:
BearlySane88 said:
Wouldn't they want her to win?

They [AOC and Bernie] know she's kind of a dingbat.

But that's not saying much.
Joe Biden pardoned his son, Anthony Fauci, Gen Milley, Schiff, and the J6 Unselect Committee. The mods all voted for Kamala. They had no choice after the Biden coup. The people who shot Trump and Charlie Kirk probably vote Democrat too. The people who were obsessed with Russia hoax, vax status of others, J6, and the Epstein list are ignorant fools. Building genocide could have been prevented. Queers for Palestine. Trans rights. No Kings. Hamas not Hummus. Cousin love. Allahu Akbar.
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9:09p, 9/11/26
Another deeply important article from the New Yorker


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12:13p, 9/12/26
Is there any serious talk about former VP candidate Tim Walz making a run in 2028 or do y'all agree by now he's nuts or something worse too?
Joe Biden pardoned his son, Anthony Fauci, Gen Milley, Schiff, and the J6 Unselect Committee. The mods all voted for Kamala. They had no choice after the Biden coup. The people who shot Trump and Charlie Kirk probably vote Democrat too. The people who were obsessed with Russia hoax, vax status of others, J6, and the Epstein list are ignorant fools. Building genocide could have been prevented. Queers for Palestine. Trans rights. No Kings. Hamas not Hummus. Cousin love. Allahu Akbar.
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In reply to DaddyLegend • 1:03p, 9/12/26
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Is there any serious talk about former VP candidate Tim Walz making a run in 2028 or do y'all agree by now he's nuts or something worse too?

He's not nuts, but no, I don't think there's much interest in him running for President.
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In reply to DaddyLegend • 3:27p, 9/12/26
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Is there any serious talk about former VP candidate Tim Walz making a run in 2028 or do y'all agree by now he's nuts or something worse too?

Somehow, he takes more of the blame for Kamala not being a good enough candidate than she does. Not that he didn't have some gaffes along the way. That said, VP candidates from losing Presidential campaigns rarely make good candidates themselves because they're mostly chosen to be people that will never outshine the Presidential candidate.
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7:29a, 9/13/26
Interestingly Kamala is still regarded as a serious candidate despite being a loser who would take the Titanic for another spin
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12:40a, 9/15/26
Kamala it is.
Joe Biden pardoned his son, Anthony Fauci, Gen Milley, Schiff, and the J6 Unselect Committee. The mods all voted for Kamala. They had no choice after the Biden coup. The people who shot Trump and Charlie Kirk probably vote Democrat too. The people who were obsessed with Russia hoax, vax status of others, J6, and the Epstein list are ignorant fools. Building genocide could have been prevented. Queers for Palestine. Trans rights. No Kings. Hamas not Hummus. Cousin love. Allahu Akbar.
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3:04p, 9/17/26

Swap out Walz for AOC.
Joe Biden pardoned his son, Anthony Fauci, Gen Milley, Schiff, and the J6 Unselect Committee. The mods all voted for Kamala. They had no choice after the Biden coup. The people who shot Trump and Charlie Kirk probably vote Democrat too. The people who were obsessed with Russia hoax, vax status of others, J6, and the Epstein list are ignorant fools. Building genocide could have been prevented. Queers for Palestine. Trans rights. No Kings. Hamas not Hummus. Cousin love. Allahu Akbar.
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In reply to sycasey • 12:46a, 9/18/26
sycasey said:
Hasan Piker would never call himself a Democrat.

Out of self-respect?
Joe Biden pardoned his son, Anthony Fauci, Gen Milley, Schiff, and the J6 Unselect Committee. The mods all voted for Kamala. They had no choice after the Biden coup. The people who shot Trump and Charlie Kirk probably vote Democrat too. The people who were obsessed with Russia hoax, vax status of others, J6, and the Epstein list are ignorant fools. Building genocide could have been prevented. Queers for Palestine. Trans rights. No Kings. Hamas not Hummus. Cousin love. Allahu Akbar.
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7:36a, 9/18/26
AOC is a no-brainer VP choice for any Democratic Presidential nominee
Censorship has always been a tool of the fascist
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In reply to dajo9 • 12:31p, 9/18/26
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AOC is a no-brainer VP choice for any Democratic Presidential nominee

She's not for any number of obvious reasons
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12:42p, 9/18/26




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