Some musings about the Democratic Party's deep challenge

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sycasey
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MinotStateBeav said:

Aunburdened said:

We saw the NYC mayor's race, so we already know this to be the case, but still



The thing is these are not populist democrats, they are flat out communists that are using the democratic party machine to essentially take over the party from within using their own infrastructure. They are like a parasite.

So the same thing that happened with Republicans and MAGA.

People are just tired of the status quo on both sides. It's hitting later for Democrats but it's hitting.
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We need two new parties- a fascist and communist- to satisfy Dems and Repubs. Both would wither on the vine.
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sycasey said:

MinotStateBeav said:

Aunburdened said:

We saw the NYC mayor's race, so we already know this to be the case, but still



The thing is these are not populist democrats, they are flat out communists that are using the democratic party machine to essentially take over the party from within using their own infrastructure. They are like a parasite.

So the same thing that happened with Republicans and MAGA.

People are just tired of the status quo on both sides. It's hitting later for Democrats but it's hitting.

No Not like MAGA at all. MAGA holds conservative values. The kind of values the conservative GOP left behind. MAGA was created to remind them what we stand for. Communists do not hold the same values as Democrats.
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At least 50% of Americans have a negative view of MAGA. This is why:

The criticisms of the Make America Great Again (MAGA) movement focus on democratic erosion, social division, and rejection of established facts.

Critics argue these core values harm democratic norms and public trust.

Threats to Democratic Norms
Election Denial:
Promoting false claims that the 2020 election was stolen undermines trust in democratic systems.

Political Violence:
Supporting or justifying physical force to achieve political goals weakens the rule of law.

Authoritarian Leanings:
Valuing a strong, unchecked leader over standard democratic processes.

Social and Cultural Divisiveness
Xenophobia and Racism:
Blaming immigration and multiculturalism for national decline fosters discrimination and exclusion.

Us vs. Them Mentality:
Creating deep cultural polarization by labeling opponents as enemies or unpatriotic.

Erosion of Fact:
Rejecting verifiable science, historical records, and mainstream journalism in favor of conspiracy theories.

Institutional and Systemic Harm
Attack on Free Press:
Hostility toward independent media outlets harms public access to neutral information.

Moral Compromise:
Tolerating extremist behavior, hate speech, and derogatory rhetoric within political groups.
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Now do the majority of Americans who have a negative view of socialists.
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Two questions:
What is your source for the 75% claim?
Are the people in question responding to an actual example or definition of true socialism, or to some silly MAGA low information voter definition of socialism?
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BearlySane88 said:

Now do the majority of Americans who have a negative view of socialists.


Every Trumpist thinks that anyone that isn't buying the con is a socialist. Trump and his family are amassing billions because they were put in the position to do so by naive people that think like that.

The Trumps seeking immunity from tax audits should be like a 2 x 4 to their thick skulls knocking some sense into them yet they still don't get it that they've been taken.
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bearister said:

BearlySane88 said:

Now do the majority of Americans who have a negative view of socialists.


Every Trumpist thinks that anyone that isn't buying the con is a socialist.


Nope, there's plenty of democrats who aren't socialists which is why a majority of Americans don't like socialists. Do your little AI analysis on that for us.
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It's called gaslighting. I tried cases against attorneys that utilized it. They always lost, but the judges and juries did a lot of head scratching trying to figure out what they were witnessing.

*The possibility exits that it is non responsive involuntary non linear thinking.
*AI, like legal research, is of no use to individuals that can't craft the proper prompt.
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bearister said:

It's called gaslighting. I tried cases against attorneys that utilized it. They always lost, but the judges and juries did a lot of head scratching trying to figure out what they were witnessing.

*The possibility exits that it is non responsive involuntary non linear thinking.


I'm doing a lot of head scratching trying to figure out what part of my post you think is gaslighting or what this has to do with your court room history. Let me know when your AI has finished analyzing why a majority of Americans dislike socialists.
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MinotStateBeav said:

sycasey said:

MinotStateBeav said:

Aunburdened said:

We saw the NYC mayor's race, so we already know this to be the case, but still



The thing is these are not populist democrats, they are flat out communists that are using the democratic party machine to essentially take over the party from within using their own infrastructure. They are like a parasite.

So the same thing that happened with Republicans and MAGA.

People are just tired of the status quo on both sides. It's hitting later for Democrats but it's hitting.

No Not like MAGA at all. MAGA holds conservative values. The kind of values the conservative GOP left behind. MAGA was created to remind them what we stand for. Communists do not hold the same values as Democrats.

MAGA definitely does not hold the same values as the Reagan conservative party I grew up with. Reagan was very much in favor of immigrants, for example.
 
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