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Warriors 2019 playoff thread
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Congrats to the Raptors. The Warriors fought hard considering the circumstances, but injuries are part of the game. I think Toronto were worthy champions, as Kerr made sure to point out.
Agreed. Feel bad for the Warriors but find the Raptors to be one I can respect both on and off the court.
Easy.Yogi Bear said:Probably? There's no way.sycasey said:Yowch.philbert said:Torn ACL. Brutal.sycasey said:
Klay hurt again!
No one would blame the Warriors if they lose this series.
Probably no title run next year. Which is fine.
Thompson gets his max deal, and rehabs for as long as it takes, but is back by playoffs.
Durant signs his 1 year $30M option.
Warriors stumble to playoffs, even if as 8 seed.
Durant comes back for playoffs, in 10 months.
Warriors would have essentially their championship team:
Curry
Klay
Draymond
Iggy
Durant
And who knows who else from there.
That's a championship squad.
I'm also dreaming.
Headline says Klay out 9-10 months.
Watching replay of final shot by curry on a loop.
Iggy just stands and watches. If he had entered the field of play, after throwing the long inbounds to Draymond, he could have gotten that rebound.
Too bad!
Cook also just stands in the corner and watches, though the rebound would not have come his way had he moved in.
Seems like those two guys became Curry fans for a moment like the rest of us.
It happens.
http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/homerun/nbcsports.com/a216faf00191fc66c599b5d87fee8477
Iggy just stands and watches. If he had entered the field of play, after throwing the long inbounds to Draymond, he could have gotten that rebound.
Too bad!
Cook also just stands in the corner and watches, though the rebound would not have come his way had he moved in.
Seems like those two guys became Curry fans for a moment like the rest of us.
It happens.
http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/homerun/nbcsports.com/a216faf00191fc66c599b5d87fee8477
W's keep F Bell, F Looney, C Jones, F McKinney and journeyman C Bogut.
G Evans surprises.
Cousins moves on. Livingston retires.
Bell matures, makes a commitment and works to improve his game.
Go W's.
G Evans surprises.
Cousins moves on. Livingston retires.
Bell matures, makes a commitment and works to improve his game.
Go W's.
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SFCityBear said:How did Trump get into this discussion? I haven't read every post, but it appears to be you who brought the President into the conversation. In one fell swoop you demonstrate that you have no more knowledge of what goes on in political press conferences than you do about what goes on in basketball press conferences.concordtom said:
Kerr today
Right after his Lindsay Gottleib comments he gets into the Durant situation, and it made me think, gosh, I wish our president could be a stand up guy and answer questions like that.
"stand up guy"? That conference was a love-fest between sports reporters, most of whom love Steve Kerr, love the Warriors, and love Kevin Durant. Even if there was some small agenda to find out more about the decision for KD to play, to perhaps assign blame to someone for this tragic injury, it does not in any way compare to a Trump press conference, where some the worst human animosity short of violence is on display. The journalists asking questions of the President mostly hate the man. They are trying every trick they know to upset, him, trip him up, catch him in a mistake. They are trying to get him out of office, by planting enough negative thoughts in voters' minds so they defeat him, by trying to uncover a crime for which he can be impeached and driven out of office. They are not reporters, trying to report facts. They are agenda-driven, agenda-controlled. They would cheer Trump's defeat at the polls, or his death by any means. Trump gets no softball questions from the majority of these 'journalists". What he gets is rudeness, (towards him and towards fellow reporters). Trump stands up to this, as he should, and gives back what he gets and more. He is already a bully, but he is goaded into being even more obnoxious behavior by these paragons of the press.
You take these same journalists in a press conference with a President they love, like Barack Obama, and what you got every time was a love fest, with few tough questions, much more like the press conference you saw with Steve Kerr and the reporters questioning him. I grant you it was a little tough to stand up and talk about an issue of a player's injury. First of all the game and series are played at a high level of emotion, and the injury affected all of them, KD, players, fans, coaches, and the team's owner and employees. Kerr is emotional guy, they all all are. The tough part is the probing into the decision, what was actually said between player and doctor, which is confidential and highly personal between the two of them. Kerr can't reveal any more than that, and it has to be uncomfortable to talk to reporters about.
But that is a far cry from journalists trying to rudely grill a President, no matter what you think of the guy. Affairs of state are serious matters. Lives hang in the balance of a President's decisions. The decisions of a basketball coach can affect the outcome of a game, or a player's career, and even with the seriousness of the KD's injury., it does not rise to the level of questions a President has to answer over killing Bin Laden, or placing sanctions on Iran or sending troops to Venezuela, or the questions designed to entrap him into revealing some evidence of violating his oath of office.
In a later post here, you told a poster to leave politics to OT. Since you are the one who often brings Trump into basketball discussions, why not make the first move, and take your own political views to OT? .
I believe Bogut is still under contract in Australia, and his team gave him permission to sign with Warriors for the playoffs.joe amos yaks said:
W's keep F Bell, F Looney, C Jones, F McKinney and journeyman C Bogut.
G Evans surprises.
Cousins moves on. Livingston retires.
Bell matures, makes a commitment and works to improve his game.
Go W's.
And Looney is a free agent.
W's would need to sign him.
W's would need to sign him.
You know, if the warriors keep Durant and Klay, only to unleash them for the playoffs, it could be good news for the warriors,
They were not deep enough this year, it turns out.
But give some regular season runway to some younger fresher guys and let them grow into it.
Then we'd be deeper come playoffs.
Gotta do some offseason unearthing for talent.
They were not deep enough this year, it turns out.
But give some regular season runway to some younger fresher guys and let them grow into it.
Then we'd be deeper come playoffs.
Gotta do some offseason unearthing for talent.
Sounds like Lacob is putting max deals on the table for Klay and KD. I can't see either guy declining those offers. Can anyone?
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KD: GSW offers super Max deal and agrees to trade him down road if he asks to be traded next summer if he wants out.
go GSW
go Bears
go GSW
go Bears
Except they could get those deals from other teams too.cal83dls79 said:
Sounds like Lacob is putting max deals on the table for Klay and KD. I can't see either guy declining those offers. Can anyone?
sycasey said:Except they could get those deals from other teams too.cal83dls79 said:
Sounds like Lacob is putting max deals on the table for Klay and KD. I can't see either guy declining those offers. Can anyone?
Less, though. I think KD gives up like $60M to sign elsewhere. Not sure about Klay.
Wouldn't offering max deals to Durant and Thompson create massive luxury tax implications?
Thompson was a lock to stay with GS anyways.
Duran't injury makes it more likely he will take the 5th year and the max. Wouldn't make sense to him to opt in for one more year.
Duran't injury makes it more likely he will take the 5th year and the max. Wouldn't make sense to him to opt in for one more year.
Sounds like he didn't have his credential with him so after the game when he went to the court to celebrate, the police prevented him from doing so (and they didn't recognize him), which led to some kind of fracas.
Is that what battery is called these days?TheFiatLux said:Maybe cooler heads prevailed, and some situational awareness.GBear4Life said:
Should have been arrested.
I wonder why not
Yes. Warriors have been paying luxury tax already these past few seasons, but the upcoming Klay and KD contracts would greatly increase that. The USA Today article below is from February but all the relevant information is still applicable.TheSouseFamily said:
Wouldn't offering max deals to Durant and Thompson create massive luxury tax implications?
Warriors Salary Cap Implications
85Bear said:Yes. Warriors have been paying luxury tax already these past few seasons, but the upcoming Klay and KD contracts would greatly increase that. The USA Today article below is from February but all the relevant information is still applicable.TheSouseFamily said:
Wouldn't offering max deals to Durant and Thompson create massive luxury tax implications?
Warriors Salary Cap Implications
Thanks for the link. Interesting stuff. Conceivably, they'll pay more in luxury tax than actual payroll. They' can probably print money essentially at their new arena but those numbers are still pretty staggering.
I have very little doubt that Lacob is going to offer the super max to KD and the max to klay. its just the way the NBA salary cap works, you almost have to offer max contracts to your own players (assuming you're already over the cap), because the rules allow you to re-sign your own players once over the cap, but don't allow you to sign other FA's once over the cap.85Bear said:Yes. Warriors have been paying luxury tax already these past few seasons, but the upcoming Klay and KD contracts would greatly increase that. The USA Today article below is from February but all the relevant information is still applicable.TheSouseFamily said:
Wouldn't offering max deals to Durant and Thompson create massive luxury tax implications?
Warriors Salary Cap Implications
Put in another way, even if they were to let KD go, they cannot use the money saved to sign another free agent. So yes, the luxury tax is going to be expensive, but Lacob can afford it and its the only way the dubs can stay title contenders.
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The business model is that Lacob & Co. are developers of a new and very pricey arena who happen to also own the primary tenant in their arena.ducky23 said:I have very little doubt that Lacob is going to offer the super max to KD and the max to klay. its just the way the NBA salary cap works, you almost have to offer max contracts to your own players (assuming you're already over the cap), because the rules allow you to re-sign your own players once over the cap, but don't allow you to sign other FA's once over the cap.85Bear said:Yes. Warriors have been paying luxury tax already these past few seasons, but the upcoming Klay and KD contracts would greatly increase that. The USA Today article below is from February but all the relevant information is still applicable.TheSouseFamily said:
Wouldn't offering max deals to Durant and Thompson create massive luxury tax implications?
Warriors Salary Cap Implications
Put in another way, even if they were to let KD go, they cannot use the money saved to sign another free agent. So yes, the luxury tax is going to be expensive, but Lacob can afford it and its the only way the dubs can stay title contenders.
Keeping the paying customers of that primary tenant happy is good for their main business -- the arena -- even if it's a loss leader for the tenant.
BearSD said:The business model is that Lacob & Co. are developers of a new and very pricey arena who happen to also own the primary tenant in their arena.ducky23 said:I have very little doubt that Lacob is going to offer the super max to KD and the max to klay. its just the way the NBA salary cap works, you almost have to offer max contracts to your own players (assuming you're already over the cap), because the rules allow you to re-sign your own players once over the cap, but don't allow you to sign other FA's once over the cap.85Bear said:Yes. Warriors have been paying luxury tax already these past few seasons, but the upcoming Klay and KD contracts would greatly increase that. The USA Today article below is from February but all the relevant information is still applicable.TheSouseFamily said:
Wouldn't offering max deals to Durant and Thompson create massive luxury tax implications?
Warriors Salary Cap Implications
Put in another way, even if they were to let KD go, they cannot use the money saved to sign another free agent. So yes, the luxury tax is going to be expensive, but Lacob can afford it and its the only way the dubs can stay title contenders.
Keeping the paying customers of that primary tenant happy is good for their main business -- the arena -- even if it's a loss leader for the tenant.
It's much more than just the arena. They also own the surrounding complex which will feature offices, retail and restaurants, including uber's new headquarters.
Lacob wants to win. I have no doubt he's going to spend the money to do it.
If the Warriors go into decline and so does the economy, I'm finding it hard to see a good financial scenario in this for Lacob (talking about over the next several years... value of franchise has soared and he'll always have that).
Doesn't resigning both injured players mean they will play the entire season short two of their best three players, and not be able to upgrade their bench (which is weak)?
HoopDreams said:
Doesn't resigning both injured players mean they will play the entire season short two of their best three players, and not be able to upgrade their bench (which is weak)?
Yes, and that is what GSW will do. Does not mean KD will sign super Max, but GSW will put super Max on table for KD to sign.
GSW is glad Klay did not make 3rd team all NBA, as GSW were planning to offer Klay max no matter what.
go GSW
go Bears
Bogut said he's going back to honor the commitment even if GSW wanted to keep him.85Bear said:I believe Bogut is still under contract in Australia, and his team gave him permission to sign with Warriors for the playoffs.joe amos yaks said:
W's keep F Bell, F Looney, C Jones, F McKinney and journeyman C Bogut.
G Evans surprises.
Cousins moves on. Livingston retires.
Bell matures, makes a commitment and works to improve his game.
Go W's.
I could see Klay coming back for the playoffs if GSW can make it there. But the question is can GSW make it to an 8 seed with only Steph, Draymond, and probably one last year of Iggy?
Can Draymond and Curry and Iggy and a cast full of other people make an eight seed? Absolutely.
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