In case you missed Kamala's town hall, it went like this.

First 49 minutes: Trump is a fascist.

Last minute: We must to stop the division.

— MAZE (@mazemoore) October 24, 2024

Same day:

Obama: “I don’t understand how we got so toxic and just so divided and so bitter.”

Biden: “I know this sounds bizarre. I said it five years ago… We gotta lock him up.”

Democrats applaud.

Still wondering?

— David Sacks (@DavidSacks) October 23, 2024

And of course, the allegation is 30 some years old and there's zero corroborating evidence. They are trying to 'Kavanaugh' Trump on the eve of the election because they have nothing else to offer the voters. https://t.co/4FsSvJ53w7

— Election Wizard (@ElectionWiz) October 23, 2024

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And of course, the allegation is 30 some years old and there's zero corroborating evidence. They are trying to 'Kavanaugh' Trump on the eve of the election because they have nothing else to offer the voters. https://t.co/4FsSvJ53w7

— Election Wizard (@ElectionWiz) October 23, 2024

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Ahh, the Election Wizard is back. The guy who caused a plethora of humiliation on the right on election night 2020. Looking forward to more bad takes.

bear2034 said:

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In case you missed Kamala's town hall, it went like this.

First 49 minutes: Trump is a fascist.

Last minute: We must to stop the division.

— MAZE (@mazemoore) October 24, 2024

Same day:

Obama: “I don’t understand how we got so toxic and just so divided and so bitter.”

Biden: “I know this sounds bizarre. I said it five years ago… We gotta lock him up.”

Democrats applaud.

Still wondering?

— David Sacks (@DavidSacks) October 23, 2024

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Lock him up and many divisions will end. Sacks is a dumb sack of s hi te

VOTE BLUE

This woman's story seems a little kooky. First, this 'model' is dating (having sex) with creepy Epstein.

Then they go meet Trump at Trump Tower, mid-day - where he allegedly fondled her in front of Epstein. Epstein and Trump allegedly had this all planned out, and enjoyed it. This is happening with family, children, staff, maids, workers, all coming and going.

But then outside, when the non-deed is done, crass man-of-the-underworld Epstein was revolted by an alleged high school fondling - which he set up!?

It doesn't make sense.

The Left: "If we could just jail Trump, get rid of MAGA, end the Electoral College, pack the Supreme Court, ban voter ID, and censor free speech we could save democracy."

— Eric Schmitt (@Eric_Schmitt) October 23, 2024

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Big C said:

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I hope it's not a sign of desperation -- or if it is, please let it be an unfounded one -- the fact that the Harris campaign (including the Vice President herself) is going full on Trump-is-an-existential-threat right now, 12 days before the election.

Far less than half the voters even know what "existential" means. Nor do they care.

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Maybe it turns out that this was the right argument, but personally I'm not a fan of this shift. It's too close to the same argument Biden was making (not very successfully) before he dropped out. Seemed to me that the earlier approach of just making fun of him while pushing your own domestic agenda was better.

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The "existential threat" argument is a bad one because it is both not believable and untrue. The country and democracy survived 4 years of Trump - just like it will survive 4 years of Biden, 4 more years of Trump (if he wins), and 4 years of Harris (if she wins). These are stupid claims that fire up the base (inclusive of the many far left people on the board). Some republicans, including Trump, make similar arguments. Its red meat, but does nothing to convince swing voters and probably alienates them.

Meanwhile, at tonight's town hall, Harris was asked what her number one legislative/policy objective will be if she wins, and should could not formulate an actual answer. It is her inability to articulate an agenda (or even a cogent argument) that explains her campaign and poll struggles. She's an awful candidate/retail politician, in large part because she has no clear policy or political philosophy (other than the accumulation of power). She can spout leftist rhetoric (which is all that's required to win in California), but she's utterly incapable of formulating actual arguments to defend the Biden/Harris unpopular policies. Swing voters see that and are not impressed.

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The Left: "If we could just jail Trump, get rid of MAGA, end the Electoral College, pack the Supreme Court, ban voter ID, and censor free speech we could save democracy."

— Eric Schmitt (@Eric_Schmitt) October 23, 2024

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This tweet is exactly right. The left's mantra is that in order to stop the evil fascist Trump, the left must be even more fascist/authoritarian. Outside of a few people on the left (Glen Greenwald being one of them), there is no self awareness.

I will fix your confusion:

If we could have the rule of law apply to Trump, choose a President by popular vote, have the Supreme Court be a body of the people, and counter misinformation from foreign adversaries, we could save democracy.

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The Left: "If we could just jail Trump, get rid of MAGA, end the Electoral College, pack the Supreme Court, ban voter ID, and censor free speech we could save democracy."

— Eric Schmitt (@Eric_Schmitt) October 23, 2024

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The Left: "If we could just jail Trump, get rid of MAGA, end the Electoral College, pack the Supreme Court, ban voter ID, and censor free speech we could save democracy."

— Eric Schmitt (@Eric_Schmitt) October 23, 2024

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Made up list of fake grievances of the Day

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FIFY

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Lay off the acid. You can't tell reality from your imagination. Your posts this morning have made that abundantly clear.

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sycasey said:

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Big C said:

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I hope it's not a sign of desperation -- or if it is, please let it be an unfounded one -- the fact that the Harris campaign (including the Vice President herself) is going full on Trump-is-an-existential-threat right now, 12 days before the election.

Far less than half the voters even know what "existential" means. Nor do they care.

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Maybe it turns out that this was the right argument, but personally I'm not a fan of this shift. It's too close to the same argument Biden was making (not very successfully) before he dropped out. Seemed to me that the earlier approach of just making fun of him while pushing your own domestic agenda was better.

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The "existential threat" argument is a bad one because it is both not believable and untrue. The country and democracy survived 4 years of Trump - just like it will survive 4 years of Biden, 4 more years of Trump (if he wins), and 4 years of Harris (if she wins). These are stupid claims that fire up the base (inclusive of the many far left people on the board). ...

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I have to disagree with this point. Progressives and NGOs are purposefully flooding the country with illegal immigrants, specifically in swing states. Kamala Harris will give Amnesty to 5 million or 20 million, and their hope is this will lock in a Democrat majority for decades.

Along with a 4th term, won't-go-away Barack Obama, superficially a uniter, but really a historically divisive president. (On top of that, he took Bush's Patriot Act changes, and turned the Intell agencies against their adversaries, while also making the FBI and DOJ Progressive idealogues.)

All they're interested in is power. The Left used to be staunchly anti war - they're now NeoCons. It's so bizarre. NeoCons supported by elite Billionaires and hi tech newbies.

There will be no corrections back to a center. It will be Left, Far Left, Progressives and Marxists, Big Government stooges. Like our HSR train to nowhere, and the California Water Board blasting Elon Musk. They'll drive him and his middle class manufacturing jobs and innovative companies out of California, then whine about declining tax revenues.

I don't see Trump as Hitler as rational, just as I don't get the Mah Russia fantasies. Or censorship. I would ocassionally read The Bay Guardian and others, never wanted to ban them.

I think one real underlying motivation is the Supremes.

Not astounding at all. MSM is just an extension of the Democratic Party.

It is astounding that an unsubstantiated allegation — denied on-record by multiple people present for the claimed incident & rejected by the victim’s family — put forward by a *lone, anonymous source* made it into print & immediately became the CBS Evening News’ lead story: pic.twitter.com/UlzZSSXHwd

— Guy Benson (@guypbenson) October 24, 2024

Frustrated Democrats Reportedly Consider Letting Voters Pick The Presidential Candidate Next Time https://t.co/9CAtnOEXcg pic.twitter.com/eC8NXPWCSJ

— The Babylon Bee (@TheBabylonBee) October 24, 2024

movielover said:

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BearGoggles said:

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sycasey said:

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Big C said:

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I hope it's not a sign of desperation -- or if it is, please let it be an unfounded one -- the fact that the Harris campaign (including the Vice President herself) is going full on Trump-is-an-existential-threat right now, 12 days before the election.

Far less than half the voters even know what "existential" means. Nor do they care.

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Maybe it turns out that this was the right argument, but personally I'm not a fan of this shift. It's too close to the same argument Biden was making (not very successfully) before he dropped out. Seemed to me that the earlier approach of just making fun of him while pushing your own domestic agenda was better.

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The "existential threat" argument is a bad one because it is both not believable and untrue. The country and democracy survived 4 years of Trump - just like it will survive 4 years of Biden, 4 more years of Trump (if he wins), and 4 years of Harris (if she wins). These are stupid claims that fire up the base (inclusive of the many far left people on the board). ...

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I have to disagree with this point. Progressives and NGOs are purposefully flooding the country with illegal immigrants, specifically in swing states. Kamala Harris will give Amnesty to 5 million or 20 million, and their hope is this will lock in a Democrat majority for decades.

Along with a 4th term, won't-go-away Barack Obama, superficially a uniter, but really a historically divisive president. (On top of that, he took Bush's Patriot Act changes, and turned the Intell agencies against their adversaries, while also making the FBI and DOJ Progressive idealogues.)

All they're interested in is power. The Left used to be staunchly anti war - they're now NeoCons. It's so bizarre. NeoCons supported by elite Billionaires and hi tech newbies.

There will be no corrections back to a center. It will be Left, Far Left, Progressives and Marxists, Big Government stooges. Like our HSR train to nowhere, and the California Water Board blasting Elon Musk. They'll drive him and his middle class manufacturing jobs and innovative companies out of California, then whine about declining tax revenues.

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I generally agree that the left and NGOs have the agenda you describe. Harris admitted as such at the townhall yesterday where she essentially acknowledged that the dems created the border problems because they wanted leverage in negotiating a congressional "global" immigration deal (i.e., amnesty). It is and has been transparent. It should be opposed. The policies are deeply unpopular outside the beltway.

However, if Harris wins, I disagree that the election of Harris would be the end of democracy. The dems have been doing this for years and were expecting immigrant and subsequent generations to be staunchly dem. But they are not, as evidenced by Trump's growing popularity among African Americans, Hispanics (particularly the younger generation), and other immigrant groups. The same checks and balances that limited Trump will limit Biden. If Harris is elected, there almost certainly will be divided government.

Ultimately, people vote their interests which are mostly perceived through an economic lens. Biden/Harris and the progressive left have over reached and the backlash will eventually arrive (quite possibly in the next 2 weeks).

The true threat to democracy is the erosion of the first amendment (complete inversion by the left) and the growth of the federal (authoritarian) bureaucracy/government with the former abetting the later). That is why they hate Elon Musk.

For your consideration: Some of you people are absolute whack jobs.


(The reaction by those to whom I am referring will either be, "I'm sure he doesn't mean me", or, more likely, "He's the whack job". Well, I do mean you and no, I am not.)

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For your consideration: Some of you people are absolute whack jobs.


(The reaction by those to whom I am referring will either be, "I'm sure he doesn't mean me", or, more likely, "He's the whack job". Well, I do mean you and no, I am not.)

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Do you have close friends, and I mean long time close friends, that you know and get along with well except (now) about politics. I do. And some of their thoughts appear wacky to me. I think I know why but I just let it go. One of my lightbulb moments occurred when a family friend helped me understand my neuropsychology exams I had to take to get my license back. A year before Biden was 'dismissed' he told me in no uncertain terms that Biden displayed no cognitive issues other than a bit of normal age degradation. He was sure he was fully capable of serving another term as president. I thought he was wacky but realized that like my other friends they will contrive all sorts of stories to validate their beliefs that Trump must be defeated. I have yet to hear one say anyone of their side is very flawed but they'd rather deal with their flaws than vote for Trump. I still don't think they are wacky just a bit defensive. That's ok, I get that way when I'm obsessing about making some meaningless points to a friend or wife or daughter.

The Harris campaign went from a Hail Mary to Heil Hitler in a week.

— Scott Adams (@ScottAdamsSays) October 25, 2024

Was it really the Trump McDonald's photo-op that pushed the Kamala campaign over the edge?

82gradDLSdad said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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movielover said:

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BearGoggles said:

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sycasey said:

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Big C said:

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I hope it's not a sign of desperation -- or if it is, please let it be an unfounded one -- the fact that the Harris campaign (including the Vice President herself) is going full on Trump-is-an-existential-threat right now, 12 days before the election.

Far less than half the voters even know what "existential" means. Nor do they care.

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Maybe it turns out that this was the right argument, but personally I'm not a fan of this shift. It's too close to the same argument Biden was making (not very successfully) before he dropped out. Seemed to me that the earlier approach of just making fun of him while pushing your own domestic agenda was better.

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The "existential threat" argument is a bad one because it is both not believable and untrue. The country and democracy survived 4 years of Trump - just like it will survive 4 years of Biden, 4 more years of Trump (if he wins), and 4 years of Harris (if she wins). These are stupid claims that fire up the base (inclusive of the many far left people on the board). ...

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I have to disagree with this point. Progressives and NGOs are purposefully flooding the country with illegal immigrants, specifically in swing states. Kamala Harris will give Amnesty to 5 million or 20 million, and their hope is this will lock in a Democrat majority for decades.

Along with a 4th term, won't-go-away Barack Obama, superficially a uniter, but really a historically divisive president. (On top of that, he took Bush's Patriot Act changes, and turned the Intell agencies against their adversaries, while also making the FBI and DOJ Progressive idealogues.)

All they're interested in is power. The Left used to be staunchly anti war - they're now NeoCons. It's so bizarre. NeoCons supported by elite Billionaires and hi tech newbies.

There will be no corrections back to a center. It will be Left, Far Left, Progressives and Marxists, Big Government stooges. Like our HSR train to nowhere, and the California Water Board blasting Elon Musk. They'll drive him and his middle class manufacturing jobs and innovative companies out of California, then whine about declining tax revenues.

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But do you not see the left has its list of reasons why the world will fall apart too? To people with their world view their list is just as valid as your list is to you.

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Yep. Each side seems to feel that there is not enough time to start to tackle real long term problems with our country in a mature way. They see no value in building alliances with the other side. Not good.

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I can't recall either side offering concrete solutions to real problems. We have reportedly 1,000 bridges in need of repair? Then fund repair / replacement. But we instead gets bills that are 85% pork.

President Trump secured the border.

President Trump built 450 miles of 30' tall wall.

President Trump confronted China.

Trump had direct peace talks w Morth Korea.

President Trump took a new path, and signed give Mideast peace deals.

Even our FDA and sister institutions are a mess, bought off by Big Ag. Can RFK Jr. MAHA?

So she really is the DEI candidate. The gall to have two highly educated parents, come from the top Indian (Brahmin) caste, not make the Hastings entrance requirements (LSAT 140), and use affirmative action to gain admission.

LAW: It's no secret that Kamala Harris failed the bar exam on her first attempt, but what remains under the radar is that her path to law school was paved by an 'adverse experiences' admission program, designed to aid students from disadvantaged backgrounds facing extreme poverty… pic.twitter.com/pJo0EdUd2X

— @amuse (@amuse) October 25, 2024

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So she really is the DEI candidate. The gall to have two highly educated parents, come from the top Indian (Brahmin) caste, not make the Hastings entrance requirements (LSAT 140), and use affirmative action to gain admission.

LAW: It's no secret that Kamala Harris failed the bar exam on her first attempt, but what remains under the radar is that her path to law school was paved by an 'adverse experiences' admission program, designed to aid students from disadvantaged backgrounds facing extreme poverty… pic.twitter.com/pJo0EdUd2X

— @amuse (@amuse) October 25, 2024

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Movielover going from Trump is a hero to well, he's talking about Palmer's member, so let's get back to racism to close up this election cycle

We see you lover, same old same old

VOTE BLUE

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movielover said:

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So she really is the DEI candidate. The gall to have two highly educated parents, come from the top Indian (Brahmin) caste, not make the Hastings entrance requirements (LSAT 140), and use affirmative action to gain admission.

LAW: It's no secret that Kamala Harris failed the bar exam on her first attempt, but what remains under the radar is that her path to law school was paved by an 'adverse experiences' admission program, designed to aid students from disadvantaged backgrounds facing extreme poverty… pic.twitter.com/pJo0EdUd2X

— @amuse (@amuse) October 25, 2024

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Movielover going from Trump is a hero to well, he's talking about Palmer's member, so let's get back to racism to close up this election cycle

We see you lover, same old same old

VOTE BLUE

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Did she fail the bar? Did she truly not meet normal test scores required to gain admission to Hastings? Did she pretend to come from a disadvantaged household to gain admission to Hastings? Did her lies take up a spot of a more deserving applicant?