Kamala Harris for President

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tRump: "I want the war over."

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Big C said:

Holocaust Harris said:

bear2034 said:


Doug Emhoff impregnated his nanny.





I think this election is going to be all about voter turnout.

This has been true for the last 20 years when the country has been basically evenly divided. Thank you captain obvious.

Voter enthusiasm for their candidate (or hate of the other candidate) drives turnout. Also $$ helps when it comes to election day turnout drives and more questionable acts like ballot harvesting.

Like it or not, Trump has a very motivated base that blindly supports him. Independents are also trending toward trump.

In stark contrast, there is no real enthusiasm for Biden or Harris - Harris may be the dumbest and least qualified candidate in the history of the republic. The media is trying hard to pump her up, but she is utterly uninspiring and until recently was being hidden awa. So instead the dems have focused on getting their base to hate trump, often with lies about Project 2025 and abortion rights. It worked in 2022 (when Trump wasn't even on the ballot). We shall see this year.

There is a reason Harris has emerged from protective custody to do more media. And that reason is because her people think she's losing. It is clearly not because her people think she's great with media.
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BearGoggles said:

Big C said:

Holocaust Harris said:

bear2034 said:


Doug Emhoff impregnated his nanny.





I think this election is going to be all about voter turnout.

This has been true for the last 20 years when the country has been basically evenly divided. Thank you captain obvious.

Voter enthusiasm for their candidate (or hate of the other candidate) drives turnout. Also $$ helps when it comes to election day turnout drives and more questionable acts like ballot harvesting.

Like it or not, Trump has a very motivated base that blindly supports him. Independents are also trending toward trump.

In stark contrast, there is no real enthusiasm for Biden or Harris - Harris may be the dumbest and least qualified candidate in the history of the republic. The media is trying hard to pump her up, but she is utterly uninspiring and until recently was being hidden awa. So instead the dems have focused on getting their base to hate trump, often with lies about Project 2025 and abortion rights. It worked in 2022 (when Trump wasn't even on the ballot). We shall see this year.

There is a reason Harris has emerged from protective custody to do more media. And that reason is because her people think she's losing. It is clearly not because her people think she's great with media.


You are in a bubble
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bearister said:

David Muir: "Who do you want to win the Ukraine War?"
tRump: "I want the war over."

That is the correct answer since different people have different answers to what "winning" is.
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Of course, Kamala wouldn't do anything different from Biden. Both Biden and Kamala are puppets. But who are the puppet masters?
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bearister said:

David Muir: "Who do you want to win the Ukraine War?"
tRump: "I want the war over."

That is the right answer, no question about it.
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Cal88 said:

bearister said:

David Muir: "Who do you want to win the Ukraine War?"
tRump: "I want the war over."

That is the right answer, no question about it.


Trump wants the war over even if it means giving Russia everything they want.

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dimitrig said:

Cal88 said:

bearister said:

David Muir: "Who do you want to win the Ukraine War?"
tRump: "I want the war over."

That is the right answer, no question about it.

Trump wants the war over even if it means giving Russia everything they want.


More importantly, it means giving what the people of Ukraine really want, an end to the war and no more forced conscription of hapless middle-aged men on the streets by the tens of thousands, men whose average lifespan on the front is one week.



Ukraine is being led by a coalition of radical nationalists and corrupt politicians who want to keep the war going to the last Ukrainian, either for ideological or financial reasons.

Sooner or later, this is how it is going to end anyway, the Russians are going to get what they want. Nearly one million dead already, high time for this mass slaughter to stop. People who want to keep this going hate Russia more than they love Ukraine (hello Nuland, Graham and co).

Trump is at least as bad as Biden/Kamala on Gaza, I'll give you that, but he's clearly better on Ukraine.
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No one is stopping you and your kids from going over there and fighting.
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dajo9 said:

BearGoggles said:

Big C said:

Holocaust Harris said:

bear2034 said:


Doug Emhoff impregnated his nanny.





I think this election is going to be all about voter turnout.

This has been true for the last 20 years when the country has been basically evenly divided. Thank you captain obvious.

Voter enthusiasm for their candidate (or hate of the other candidate) drives turnout. Also $$ helps when it comes to election day turnout drives and more questionable acts like ballot harvesting.

Like it or not, Trump has a very motivated base that blindly supports him. Independents are also trending toward trump.

In stark contrast, there is no real enthusiasm for Biden or Harris - Harris may be the dumbest and least qualified candidate in the history of the republic. The media is trying hard to pump her up, but she is utterly uninspiring and until recently was being hidden awa. So instead the dems have focused on getting their base to hate trump, often with lies about Project 2025 and abortion rights. It worked in 2022 (when Trump wasn't even on the ballot). We shall see this year.

There is a reason Harris has emerged from protective custody to do more media. And that reason is because her people think she's losing. It is clearly not because her people think she's great with media.


You are in a bubble
Yes, someone with my political views but participating on this far left leaning board is definitely in a bubble. Clearly on this website I don't have exposure to views different than my own.

Speaking of bubbles, which conservative leaning websites do you actively read and post in? I'll wait.

You are truly amazing.
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BearGoggles said:

Harris may be the dumbest and least qualified candidate in the history of the republic.

This is an amazing thing to say, given who her opponent is. Literally the only person to win the Presidency after zero years in public service.
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sycasey said:

BearGoggles said:

Harris may be the dumbest and least qualified candidate in the history of the republic.

This is an amazing thing to say, given who her opponent is. Literally the only person to win the Presidency after zero years in public service.

Trump has 4 years of public service as president and won his party's nomination 3 times. Kamala never won her own party's primary once.
Big C
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BearGoggles said:

Big C said:

Holocaust Harris said:

bear2034 said:


Doug Emhoff impregnated his nanny.





I think this election is going to be all about voter turnout.

This has been true for the last 20 years when the country has been basically evenly divided. Thank you captain obvious.

Voter enthusiasm for their candidate (or hate of the other candidate) drives turnout. Also $$ helps when it comes to election day turnout drives and more questionable acts like ballot harvesting.

Like it or not, Trump has a very motivated base that blindly supports him. Independents are also trending toward trump.

In stark contrast, there is no real enthusiasm for Biden or Harris - Harris may be the dumbest and least qualified candidate in the history of the republic. The media is trying hard to pump her up, but she is utterly uninspiring and until recently was being hidden awa. So instead the dems have focused on getting their base to hate trump, often with lies about Project 2025 and abortion rights. It worked in 2022 (when Trump wasn't even on the ballot). We shall see this year.

There is a reason Harris has emerged from protective custody to do more media. And that reason is because her people think she's losing. It is clearly not because her people think she's great with media.

BearGoggles, even though you may not actually have respect for me, you might show some, even just for politeness' sake, by capitalizing my name. Have I ever called you "beargoggles"?

True, some of Trump's base is more fervent, but counteracting that is the fact that Harris' more educated base might be more likely to vote than the "non-college-educated" masses that make up Trump's following*. And while some Trump supporters are very enthusiastic, the rally-goers we see, and their ilk, only account for a small percentage of those who will vote for him. Which gets back to Captain Obvious' point about voter turnout.

"Harris may be the dumbest and least qualified candidate in the history of the republic." Seriously?!? What were Trump's qualifications in 2016? And while Harris may not be the brightest bulb on the Xmas tree, Trump -- who I actually think has a certain genius -- has sounded lately like the schoolyard bully who is getting all F's. Dumb? Be honest, how do you like Trump's tarriff ideas? So maybe you are lashing out in frustration. In any event, that sucking sound we hear is your credibility rushing out the window, based on that one sentence alone.

- Captain Obvious


* When a candidate's support among the educated steadily erodes over eight years, does that perhaps tell us something? Hmmm...
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BearGoggles, even though you may not actually have respect for me, you might show some, even just for politeness' sake, by capitalizing my name. Have I ever called you "beargoggles"?

You should have stopped here.
Perfect.

I skimmed the rest and the "support from intelligent people" hit a nerve with me. I hear from too many these days and it makes me question my lifelong views of their intelligence...and mine. I really don't need any more of that type of internal reflection after a couple years of forced introspection in my trips to seizureville. You're still one of my favorites here so all good.
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bear2034 said:

sycasey said:

BearGoggles said:

Harris may be the dumbest and least qualified candidate in the history of the republic.

This is an amazing thing to say, given who her opponent is. Literally the only person to win the Presidency after zero years in public service.

Trump has 4 years of public service as president and won his party's nomination 3 times. Kamala never won her own party's primary once.

And in 2016 he had zero years of public service.
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BearGoggles said:

dajo9 said:

BearGoggles said:

Big C said:

Holocaust Harris said:

bear2034 said:


Doug Emhoff impregnated his nanny.





I think this election is going to be all about voter turnout.

This has been true for the last 20 years when the country has been basically evenly divided. Thank you captain obvious.

Voter enthusiasm for their candidate (or hate of the other candidate) drives turnout. Also $$ helps when it comes to election day turnout drives and more questionable acts like ballot harvesting.

Like it or not, Trump has a very motivated base that blindly supports him. Independents are also trending toward trump.

In stark contrast, there is no real enthusiasm for Biden or Harris - Harris may be the dumbest and least qualified candidate in the history of the republic. The media is trying hard to pump her up, but she is utterly uninspiring and until recently was being hidden awa. So instead the dems have focused on getting their base to hate trump, often with lies about Project 2025 and abortion rights. It worked in 2022 (when Trump wasn't even on the ballot). We shall see this year.

There is a reason Harris has emerged from protective custody to do more media. And that reason is because her people think she's losing. It is clearly not because her people think she's great with media.


You are in a bubble
Yes, someone with my political views but participating on this far left leaning board is definitely in a bubble. Clearly on this website I don't have exposure to views different than my own.

Speaking of bubbles, which conservative leaning websites do you actively read and post in? I'll wait.

You are truly amazing.
First, this is a far right leaning board. The vast majority of posts on this site are from the far right. movielover and bearforce probably post more on this board than everybody from the left combined. Also, if you just add up individuals there are probably more regular posters from the right than the left. This measure would be closer, but in terms of posts, the right has it by an easy margin.

Second, this board doesn't reflect anybody's presence inside or outside a real world bubble. This board is a bubble of its own. A stupid, vacuous, bubble.

Third, you made conjecture about Vice President Harris and her supporters. So the question is your bubble. When I make conjecture about Donold and his supporters, go ahead and challenge my bubble-ness then. Here is what you said:


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In stark contrast, there is no real enthusiasm for Biden or Harris - Harris may be the dumbest and least qualified candidate in the history of the republic. The media is trying hard to pump her up, but she is utterly uninspiring and until recently was being hidden awa. So instead the dems have focused on getting their base to hate trump, often with lies about Project 2025 and abortion rights. It worked in 2022 (when Trump wasn't even on the ballot). We shall see this year.

There is a reason Harris has emerged from protective custody to do more media. And that reason is because her people think she's losing. It is clearly not because her people think she's great with media.
Here are democratic voters driving a surge in enthusiasm since Vice President Harris became the nominee. Note, this change in enthusiasm is not driven by Donold, who has been a constant. It is driven by Vice President Harris since she replaced President Bideon on the ticket.
https://www.axios.com/2024/08/31/voting-enthusiasm-presidential-election

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Americans, driven by a Democratic surge, are the most enthusiastic about the presidential election in 24 years of Gallup polling.
I know you are in a bubble because you say things like "until recently (she) was being hidden awa". You believe things like that partly because you are not getting the full story from your chosen news sources and partly because that is the narrative corporate news wants to present as they minimize her coverage and focus on Donold all day, every day.

Here is a list of just some bigger audience recent events. There are more events of course. The media doesn't cover any of it much, unlike the other guy.

September 19, Oprah Winfrey livestream


September 20 rally in Madison, WI speaking to 10k. Check out the big, enthusiastic crowd.


September 25, speech on economic vision in Pittsburgh, with little coverage from the media


September 30th in Las Vegas, check out the big, enthusiastic crowd


October 3rd receiving endorsement from Republican Liz Cheney
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/liz-cheney-hits-trail-kamala-harris-republican-party-wisconsin-rcna173713

October 5th in Flint, MI, check out the big, enthusiastic crowd.


I believe Phoenix is coming up. Will you hear about it?

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dajo9 said:

BearGoggles said:

dajo9 said:

BearGoggles said:

Big C said:

Holocaust Harris said:

bear2034 said:


Doug Emhoff impregnated his nanny.





I think this election is going to be all about voter turnout.

This has been true for the last 20 years when the country has been basically evenly divided. Thank you captain obvious.

Voter enthusiasm for their candidate (or hate of the other candidate) drives turnout. Also $$ helps when it comes to election day turnout drives and more questionable acts like ballot harvesting.

Like it or not, Trump has a very motivated base that blindly supports him. Independents are also trending toward trump.

In stark contrast, there is no real enthusiasm for Biden or Harris - Harris may be the dumbest and least qualified candidate in the history of the republic. The media is trying hard to pump her up, but she is utterly uninspiring and until recently was being hidden awa. So instead the dems have focused on getting their base to hate trump, often with lies about Project 2025 and abortion rights. It worked in 2022 (when Trump wasn't even on the ballot). We shall see this year.

There is a reason Harris has emerged from protective custody to do more media. And that reason is because her people think she's losing. It is clearly not because her people think she's great with media.


You are in a bubble
Yes, someone with my political views but participating on this far left leaning board is definitely in a bubble. Clearly on this website I don't have exposure to views different than my own.

Speaking of bubbles, which conservative leaning websites do you actively read and post in? I'll wait.

You are truly amazing.
First, this is a far right leaning board. The vast majority of posts on this site are from the far right. movielover and bearforce probably post more on this board than everybody from the left combined. Also, if you just add up individuals there are probably more regular posters from the right than the left. This measure would be closer, but in terms of posts, the right has it by an easy margin.

Second, this board doesn't reflect anybody's presence inside or outside a real world bubble. This board is a bubble of its own. A stupid, vacuous, bubble.

Third, you made conjecture about Vice President Harris and her supporters. So the question is your bubble. When I make conjecture about Donold and his supporters, go ahead and challenge my bubble-ness then. Here is what you said:


Quote:

In stark contrast, there is no real enthusiasm for Biden or Harris - Harris may be the dumbest and least qualified candidate in the history of the republic. The media is trying hard to pump her up, but she is utterly uninspiring and until recently was being hidden awa. So instead the dems have focused on getting their base to hate trump, often with lies about Project 2025 and abortion rights. It worked in 2022 (when Trump wasn't even on the ballot). We shall see this year.

There is a reason Harris has emerged from protective custody to do more media. And that reason is because her people think she's losing. It is clearly not because her people think she's great with media.
Here are democratic voters driving a surge in enthusiasm since Vice President Harris became the nominee. Note, this change in enthusiasm is not driven by Donold, who has been a constant. It is driven by Vice President Harris since she replaced President Bideon on the ticket.
https://www.axios.com/2024/08/31/voting-enthusiasm-presidential-election

Quote:

Americans, driven by a Democratic surge, are the most enthusiastic about the presidential election in 24 years of Gallup polling.
I know you are in a bubble because you say things like "until recently (she) was being hidden awa". You believe things like that partly because you are not getting the full story from your chosen news sources and partly because that is the narrative corporate news wants to present as they minimize her coverage and focus on Donold all day, every day.

Here is a list of just some bigger audience recent events. There are more events of course. The media doesn't cover any of it much, unlike the other guy.

September 19, Oprah Winfrey livestream


September 20 rally in Madison, WI speaking to 10k. Check out the big, enthusiastic crowd.


September 25, speech on economic vision in Pittsburgh, with little coverage from the media


September 30th in Las Vegas, check out the big, enthusiastic crowd


October 3rd receiving endorsement from Republican Liz Cheney
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/liz-cheney-hits-trail-kamala-harris-republican-party-wisconsin-rcna173713

October 5th in Flint, MI, check out the big, enthusiastic crowd.


I believe Phoenix is coming up. Will you hear about it?




Far right board?????
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I think most of the posters here are centrist or left of center . . . but the right-wingers sure make up for it with posting volume in OT.
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Deep Throat said:




She has a history of being rejected by voters nationally.

She's in a tough spot - can't run against her own administration's record, can't run on it; she had very little time to organize a campaign.

At least in my area and where I've visited (ie, viewed her ads in more than 1 location) her campaign boils down to two things: 1) Abortion; 2) Donald Trump is evil. Time will tell but I think that ultimately only gets you so far...I suspect that's shy she has a ceiling in the polls.

Flip side, no politician has ever been as hated as Trump.
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"...rejected..." and "...most hated...". How on earth did we end up with these two. The machine is officially and eternally broken. Time for an AI president???
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sycasey said:

I think most of the posters here are centrist or left of center . . . but the right-wingers sure make up for it with posting volume in OT.

I think most posters who are centrist ended up on the right because the left shifted far left. The centrists didn't shift, the left did.

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bear2034 said:

sycasey said:

I think most of the posters here are centrist or left of center . . . but the right-wingers sure make up for it with posting volume in OT.

I think most posters who are centrist ended up on the right because the left shifted far left. The centrists didn't shift, the left did.




This is Bill Mahr's contention.
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100% agree re the move left. I have lived in Blue cities/states my whole life...things are different on that side of the isle.

On the other side I am not sure what being Conservative even means anymore; Trump / America First has muddled it all up. Protectionism, massive government spending, tariffs, certain foreign policy items...this isn't Reagan's party anymore.
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bear2034 said:

sycasey said:

I think most of the posters here are centrist or left of center . . . but the right-wingers sure make up for it with posting volume in OT.

I think most posters who are centrist ended up on the right because the left shifted far left. The centrists didn't shift, the left did.




Elon doing some projecting. tRump labels all opponents Far Left Radicals.

"I think most posters who are centrist ended up on the right…"

Wrong. The Right is too stupid and believes in too many conspiracy theories to ever attract a moderate. A moderate is intelligent enough to realizes that the extremes are equally evil.
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tRump has talk up the alleged Black vote he is going to get because he thinks it will help legitimize the 85 to 90M "votes" he is going to board.
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Not Donald Trump is a good enough reason to vote for her for me.

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tequila4kapp said:

100% agree re the move left. I have lived in Blue cities/states my whole life...things are different on that side of the isle.

On the other side I am not sure what being Conservative even means anymore; Trump / America First has muddled it all up. Protectionism, massive government spending, tariffs, certain foreign policy items...this isn't Reagan's party anymore.

You might not get everything you want with your pick, but one side still believes in the 1st amendment, 2nd amendment, sovereign borders, and no new wars.
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bearister said:

tRump has talk up the alleged Black vote he is going to get because he thinks it will help legitimize the 85 to 90M "votes" he is going to board.

Obama is trying but it's tough to convince black males to vote for Kamala?
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dimitrig said:

Not Donald Trump is a good enough reason to vote for her for me.
I think this has always been the Kamala campaign's main message.
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82gradDLSdad said:

bear2034 said:

sycasey said:

I think most of the posters here are centrist or left of center . . . but the right-wingers sure make up for it with posting volume in OT.

I think most posters who are centrist ended up on the right because the left shifted far left. The centrists didn't shift, the left did.



This is Bill Mahr's contention.

I've seen this same tweet posted by Elon Musk, Scott Adams, and Ben Shapiro.
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bearister said:

bear2034 said:

sycasey said:

I think most of the posters here are centrist or left of center . . . but the right-wingers sure make up for it with posting volume in OT.

I think most posters who are centrist ended up on the right because the left shifted far left. The centrists didn't shift, the left did.


Elon doing some projecting. tRump labels all opponents Far Left Radicals.

"I think most posters who are centrist ended up on the right…"

Wrong. The Right is too stupid and believes in too many conspiracy theories to ever attract a moderate. A moderate is intelligent enough to realizes that the extremes are equally evil.

One thing I always found interesting is the far left dislikes being labeled, "extreme". Why not embrace the label? They believe men can be women and can get pregnant.
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bear2034 said:

dimitrig said:

Not Donald Trump is a good enough reason to vote for her for me.
I think this has always been the Kamala campaign's main message.

So you admit she has a message!!!
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Here is some more copium for our bubble friends. Harris spoke to a big, energized 7k+ in AZ yesterday.
https://www.threads.net/@kamalahq/post/DA9yU8AKOC7?xmt=AQGzxUGOQzeFuB3Tiq74vHQeNmGKDCmIrBsfwv3qEdn9EQ
 
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