Discussion on Musk's DoGE ideas, the federal deficit, and GDP

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^ movieliver source..
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movielover
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movielover
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sycasey
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movielover
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It was reduced to $1 Trillion.
movielover
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Horrible news. We are running a $2 Trillion yearly deficit, and the UniParty wants to spend more.
DiabloWags
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movielover said:

Horrible news. We are running a $2 Trillion yearly deficit, and the UniParty wants to spend more.


Yeah, I was really looking forward to my DOGE dividend.
I bet you were too.

I guess we got duped.

sycasey
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movielover said:

Horrible news. We are running a $2 Trillion yearly deficit, and the UniParty wants to spend more.

DOGE was always a smokescreen that accomplished nothing except killing a bunch of kids in Africa. Sorry you had to find out this way.
movielover
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sycasey said:

movielover said:

Horrible news. We are running a $2 Trillion yearly deficit, and the UniParty wants to spend more.

DOGE was always a smokescreen that accomplished nothing except killing a bunch of kids in Africa. Sorry you had to find out this way.


Amfar monies are still being sent to Africa via the State Department.

You don't care about our calamitous budget, or anything Trump is reflexively bad?

We see USAID and USIP were a total sh-t show, and we now know NGOs are a fame to route monies wherever, that is untraceable. No FOIA requests, no audits.

Look at the Education Department, all noise, no signal. Mississippi turned their school scores / Education around by reportedly going back to basics, heavy emphasis in reading, children stopped in third grade (?) if they're not at grade level. Several southern states are excelling.
Eastern Oregon Bear
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sycasey said:

movielover said:

Horrible news. We are running a $2 Trillion yearly deficit, and the UniParty wants to spend more.

DOGE was always a smokescreen that accomplished nothing except killing a bunch of kids in Africa. Sorry you had to find out this way.
Well, DOGE did do a good job of eliminating much of the mid and upper management over 55 (who needs experienced leadership?) and eliminating the people that had just been hired at no small expense (who needs the employees of the future?).
dajo9
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Treasury reports a record monthly deficit in October of $284 billion

Now that Trump and Musk have gotten rid of all the waste, fraud, and abuse - what is the next step?

PAC-10-BEAR
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DiabloWags said:

movielover said:

Horrible news. We are running a $2 Trillion yearly deficit, and the UniParty wants to spend more.


Yeah, I was really looking forward to my DOGE dividend.
I bet you were too.

I guess we got duped.




Your post is fake news, bro.

DOGE is continuing to cut liberal spending.
Eastern Oregon Bear
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I have found one positive to the government shutdown. Before the shutdown, I scheduled a vacation week during the shutdown and took it. After the shutdown was over, it was determined that no leave could be taken during the shutdown. So my vacation week was recorded as Furlough - Not Working. Now that the shutdown is done, I still have those 5 days of Annual Leave, so I'm going to get to use them twice. I'm planning to take them off around New Year's Day. Sweet!

I think Sick Leave was handled similarly.
DiabloWags
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PAC-10-BEAR said:


Your post is fake news, bro.

DOGE is continuing to cut liberal spending.


YOURE EASILY DUPED.

PRESIDENT CHUMP INCREASED THE NATIONAL DEBT BY $3.4 TRILLION OVER 10 YEARS.. $4.1 WHEN YOU INCLUDE INTEREST.

TURN YOUR BRAIN ON.
DO BETTER.

SIGNED,

HAAS CLASS OF '82
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Tim Walz was one of the loudest anti-Elon voices when Elon was at DOGE. Now we understand exactly why.
sycasey
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DiabloWags
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DOGE was a complete FARCE
Suckers and Losers got duped again by President Chump.

Welcome to DUMBERICA!

To sort DOGE's bogus cuts from its successes, The Times looked at federal records for the 40 largest items on the "Wall of Receipts." In at least 28 cases, DOGE got it wrong.

Its errors included:

  • Double-counting. DOGE took credit for canceling the same Department of Energy grant twice, adding $500 million in duplicate savings.
  • Timeline errors. One contract that DOGE claimed credit for ending had actually been terminated by the Biden administration, weeks before DOGE began its work. Three more items on DOGE's list had simply expired. These were pandemic-era contracts with pharmacies that provided free Covid-19 testing for the uninsured. They were originally allowed to spend up to a combined $12.2 billion, but they never came close to that level. Then, in May, the three contracts ended on schedule.
    DOGE still claimed credit for killing them, highlighting $6 billion in savings.
  • Misclassifications. Seven programs that DOGE claimed to have terminated are not dead, including four that were resurrected by court rulings.
  • Exaggerations. In 16 cases, DOGE greatly exaggerated its cuts. Many, including those two large Defense Department contracts, relied on an accounting trick that produced "savings" with little real-world effect. DOGE lowered the official "ceiling value" of contracts reducing the theoretical limit on what the government could eventually pay without changing its actual spending.
"Does lowering the maximum limit on your credit card save you any money?" said Travis Sharp, a senior fellow at the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments, which studies federal spending. "No, it does not."

In one case, DOGE made its claim particularly hard to check: It took credit for saving $312 million by canceling a United States Agency for International Development contract, but declined to identify which contract, citing continuing litigation.

The Times used the few details given by DOGE to identify the mystery item as a tech contract with the firm Accenture. Here, as well, DOGE's claim was inflated by treating the ceiling value as if it were an I.O.U. that the government had to pay in full, though it did not.











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