The Economy

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DiabloWags
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Budget deficit holding firm at $1.8 Trillion.
Even with tariff revenue.

dajo9
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DiabloWags said:

Budget deficit holding firm at $1.8 Trillion.
Even with tariff revenue.




Spending for the month grew 4% vs. last year. No evidence of the government being cut.
graguna
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/why-is-the-price-of-gold-rising-4000-ounce-economy/
I'd like to thank our Pedo president for treating the economy like one of his 12 year old rape victims; the value of the gold I bought years ago is going thru the roof
DiabloWags
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graguna said:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/why-is-the-price-of-gold-rising-4000-ounce-economy/
I'd like to thank our Pedo president for treating the economy like one of his 12 year old rape victims; the value of the gold I bought years ago is going thru the roof


+52% on the year after being up 24% in 2004.

Thank You President Chump!
dajo9
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Interesting day in the markets. The stock market is like an immature youth on drugs but the bond market is more of a mature adult. The Trump / China tariff announcement seems to have green lit a stock selloff (at least for the day) but to me what is interesting is the money seems to have moved to the bond market which has had a big rally. This is not a tariff / inflationary trade - this is an economic weakness / flight to safety trade. (at least for the day).
DiabloWags
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Yup.

From 4.15 to 4.05

Wonder if Chump and all of his "buddies" got short equities (again) yesterday.

Another Full Moon Top






movielover
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Yuuge:

CNBC: Trump reaches deal with AstraZeneca to lower U.S. drug prices

- UKs pharma giant AstraZeneca will agree to sell drugs directly to Medicaid patients at the lowest price offered in other developed countries (aka "most-favored nation" pricing) on developing government website TrumpRx.gov. [company chose the name]
- AstroZeneca will invest $50 Billion in USA by 2030
- currently investing $5 Billion in new Virginia manufacturing plant, which will also create 3600 jobs
- President asserts massive tariffs brought them to the table
- anticipated substantial reductions in drug prices, which therefore substantially helps state health care budgets
- POTUS asserts $18 Trillion in planned new investments in 8 months; dwarfing the less then $1 Trillion invested under the Autopen Administration

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/10/trump-astrazeneca-drug-pricing-deal.html


Results:
- rapid onshoring of pharma production in USA
- shortly, massive reduction in drug prices paid by government programs, which should reduce medical inflation
- private HMOs to piggyback on the same drastically reduced prices???
movielover
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Pfizer has recently committed up to $70 Billion in new (4) and expanded manufacturing facilities in the USA.

- In June, Novo Nordisk announced a $4.1 billion investment to expand a manufacturing plant in North Carolina.

- In September, Eli Lilly announced plans to build a new $6.5 billion manufacturing facility in Texas.

https://www.fool.com/investing/2025/10/10/heres-how-this-pharmaceutical-giant-is-protecting/?source=globeandmail&utm_source=globeandmail&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=article&referring_guid=d885c11e-2398-48d7-a375-f7de465de0d5
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Cal88
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movielover
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He supports taxes, fees, and regulations that have driven jobs to other states, countries, and out of business. Just one example: he and his brethren have driven CA energy prices through the roof, and they're now closing two more oil refineries. Over the decades we've gone from 30, to 13, to 10, and now soon 7-8. The fourth largest economy in the world with unique fuel requirements.

RR supports the 35 - 50 million illegal immigrants in the US that have driven down wages.
DiabloWags
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Car buyers are falling behind on Payments.

A portion of auto loans 60 or more days overdue hits a record of over 6%

How can this be happening in a TRUMP economy?


smh
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> How can this be happening in a TRUMP economy?

welll duh
Cal88
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movielover said:

He supports taxes, fees, and regulations that have driven jobs to other states, countries, and out of business. Just one example: he and his brethren have driven CA energy prices through the roof, and they're now closing two more oil refineries. Over the decades we've gone from 30, to 13, to 10, and now soon 7-8. The fourth largest economy in the world with unique fuel requirements.

RR supports the 35 - 50 million illegal immigrants in the US that have driven down wages.


Yeah a lot of what Reich supports is trash, but noticing that the US has become an oligarchy is a relevant observation.

The even more important aspect of the wealth imbalance is that most of the debt under the Fed system is owned by billionaires, a lot of it can and should just be written off.
smh
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> The even more important aspect of the wealth imbalance is that most of the debt under the Fed system is owned by billionaires, a lot of it can and should just be written off.

i'm simple, sorry, but hows that gonna work (except in crazy town)
Cal88
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smh said:

> The even more important aspect of the wealth imbalance is that most of the debt under the Fed system is owned by billionaires, a lot of it can and should just be written off.

i'm simple, sorry, but hows that gonna work (except in crazy town)



Some historical context on debt, recommended readings:

https://www.amazon.ca/Debt-First-5-000-Years/dp/1612191290

https://michael-hudson.com/2015/09/killing-the-host-the-book/

Fairly short (given the breadth of the subject) overview from economist Michael Hudson:

DiabloWags
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Make no mistake, Gold's rally reflects the deficit.

Just think, well into a recovery the annual budget deficit is $1.8 Trillion as of Sept. 30, 2025.

Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent bragged this past week that the fiscal 2025 budget deficit to GDP ratio had a "5" (%) in front of it in contrast to 6% last year... even though such a shortfall once was associated only with deep econ9mic downturns or wars.
movielover
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Mr. Wonderful Kevin O'Leary has suggested opening the Artic National Refuge for use and routing taxes and fees there 100% to paying off debt.

DOGE has about $780 Billion to go (to cut $1 Trillion), but Dems fight the easily identified $220 Billion in waste and fraud in Round 1.
DiabloWags
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Your President increased the federal debt by $3.5 Trillion with his Big Beautiful Bill.
smh
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DiabloWags said:

Your President increased the federal debt by $3.5 Trillion with his Big Beautiful Bill.


(wanted to star this'n twice, but no soap)
dajo9
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smh said:

> The even more important aspect of the wealth imbalance is that most of the debt under the Fed system is owned by billionaires, a lot of it can and should just be written off.

i'm simple, sorry, but hows that gonna work (except in crazy town)



It makes sense when you understand what Putin88 wants is the end of American exceptionalism so defaulting on our loans would be a good way to do that
movielover
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DiabloWags said:

Your President increased the federal debt by $3.5 Trillion with his Big Beautiful Bill.



Then why are the Democrat Marxists whining so much?
smh
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> It makes sense when you understand what Putin88 wants is the end of American exceptionalism so defaulting on our loans would be a good way to do that

umm, sorrry, no tanks.
DiabloWags
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movielover said:

DiabloWags said:

Your President increased the federal debt by $3.5 Trillion with his Big Beautiful Bill.



Then why are the Democrat Marxists whining so much?


Because the lower class (those making between $17,000 - $50,000) a year get hurt the most by his Big Beautiful Bill and will lose money. Clearly, you and Chump couldn't care any less about that.

Trump's big tax bill: Who are the winners and losers?





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DiabloWags
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Ford cuts Truck and SUV Production after a devastasting fire at an aluminum supplier.

Ford is already facing a $7 BILLION HIT FROM TARIFFS AND EV LOSSES THIS YEAR.

MAGA for MORONS!
movielover
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Automotive News: Stellantis says it will add 5,000 U.S. factory jobs with $13 billion investment; Canada loses Compass production

https://www.autonews.com/stellantis/an-stellantis-us-manufacturing-investment-1014/

GSK to invest $30 billion in R&D and Manufacturing in the United States over next 5 years

https://www.gsk.com/en-gb/media/press-releases/gsk-to-invest-30-billion-in-rd-and-manufacturing-in-the-united-states-over-next-5-years/

The GE Aerospace Foundation announced a $30 million workforce skills training program to prepare the next generation of its U.S.-based workforce.

oski003
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DiabloWags said:

Ford cuts Truck and SUV Production after a devastasting fire at an aluminum supplier.

Ford is already facing a $7 BILLION HIT FROM TARIFFS AND EV LOSSES THIS YEAR.

MAGA for MORONS!



The EV losses aren't MAGA. You may have already forgotten again, but you've posted Fords tariff losses more than 50 times. Also, arsonists appear to be liberals

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abc7.com/amp/post/federal-grand-jury-indicts-palisades-fire-suspect-jonathan-rinderknecht-could-now-face-maximum-45-years-prison/18014555/
movielover
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Preach.
 
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