New York City race for Mayor

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okaydo said:

tequila4kapp said:

Ds in America's biggest city elect a Socialist. Everyday Ds everywhere keep saying the party is not moving left.

Americans also elected Obama, a socialist, to the presidency.

Obama campaigned as a Democratic Socialist in 2008. However, as you'll recall, he governed as a Neoliberal / moderate Republican. His economic team was chosen by Citigroup, and as soon as he was inaugurated, he was all Wall Street, writing huuge bailout checks to... Citigroup & the biggest banks.

Bill Clinton played the same game -- ran as a Progressive (remember the Covenant With America?), and governed as a deregulating, ending-welfare-as-we-know-it Republican.

What politicians like Zohran Mamdami, AOC, & Bernie Sanders are proposing is simply a return to the brilliant economic policies of the New Deal -- the policies that Made America Great.

Before FDR took office in 1933, we had the normal boom/bust cycles of unregulated Capitalism, with a financial crisis or bank failures every 7 to 15 years.

Under FDR, we invested in education & infrastructure, had regulated banking, steady growth, were the world's biggest manufacturer, and the world's biggest creditor, we had NO financial crises, our standard of living was among the highest in the world, and we led the world in social mobility.

Then, in the 1970s, both parties set out to end all the successful New Deal policies. They rolled back the New Deal regulations, lowered taxes, eased anti-trust enforcement, and set out to help large corporations increase their earnings -- at the expense of Workers. We now have 60% of Americans living paycheck-to-paycheck, and 50% of American who can't afford a $400 emergency expense.

New Deal policies: High wages, low cost of living;

Neoliberal / 'Trickle-down' policies: Low wages, high cost of living.

New Deal / Democratic Socialist policies are economically moderate, in the sense that they represent a fairly even balance between the economic & political power of Capital & Labor. Bernie Sanders, AOC, & Zohran are economic moderates. Conservatives and even "moderate" Democrats are Milton Friedman Neoliberals, at the extreme economic Right.

There are a lot of people who want OUR tax dollars spent on US, and NOT on corporate welfare, tax cuts, gov't subsidies, bank / private equity / hedge fund bailouts, regime-change wars & genocide.




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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

tequila4kapp said:

calpoly said:

tequila4kapp said:

Ds in America's biggest city elect a Socialist. Everyday Ds everywhere keep saying the party is not moving left.

They elected a candidate that supports regulated capitalism that is not the Socialist idealology

Mamdani is a member of the Democratic SOCIALIST Party, the "country's largest Socialist organization." He is literally a socialist.

But thanks for the personal attacks about my level of intelligence - it allows your post to be an all time doozy for the immensity it's stupidity, naivety and irony.
Hitler's Nazi party was officially the National Socialist German Worker's Party, but they were hardly socialists. What's in a name?


"What is Democratic Socialism?

Capitalism is a system designed by the owning class to exploit the rest of us for their own profit. We must replace it with democratic socialism, a system where *** we collectively own the key economic drivers…"
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Republicans are now calling to strip Mamdani of his citizenship. This is how the fascism works, at least until such time they can forget the pretenses.

Mamdani is a naturalized citizen. Completely legal and non-criminal. But magat fascists dont like his politics and want him deported. By stripping him of his citizenship and legal authority to be in the U.S. he becomes a criminal. Magat fascists can deport him and say he is a criminal.

They are far, far more extreme and un-American than anything Mamdani is trying to do for the people of New York. Their dangerous extremism should be our focus.


https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-ask-donald-trump-revoke-zohran-mamdani-citizenship-deport-2090891
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Voting for Eric Adams to stop Mamdani.
Big C
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

tequila4kapp said:

calpoly said:

tequila4kapp said:

Ds in America's biggest city elect a Socialist. Everyday Ds everywhere keep saying the party is not moving left.

They elected a candidate that supports regulated capitalism that is not the Socialist idealology

Mamdani is a member of the Democratic SOCIALIST Party, the "country's largest Socialist organization." He is literally a socialist.

But thanks for the personal attacks about my level of intelligence - it allows your post to be an all time doozy for the immensity it's stupidity, naivety and irony.
Hitler's Nazi party was officially the National Socialist German Worker's Party, but they were hardly socialists. What's in a name?

In the case of being an admitted "socialist" in American politics, perhaps a lot. Perhaps not.

Are voters nuanced enough to know that there's a huge difference between "Marxist socialism" and the democratic socialism practiced in many Western European countries?
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Cal88
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Adams is going to run against Mamdani as an independent, he's going to have a hell of a war chest and most of the local media in his pocket. If Cuomo also runs as an independent, Mamdani will win, but if he sits out, Adams can win.
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You think Trump is leaving his asset's chances in that race to chance?
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bear2034 said:



Voting for Eric Adams to stop Mamdani.


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movielover
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What are you smoking?

If I recall correctly, WWII brought us out of the Depression, not FDRs policies.

Reduced programs in the 70s? That's when oddles of welfare programs, affirmative action (signed by Nixon), the EPA, etc began. And we've spent Trillions on the War on Poverty with little success. The Free Market does a far better job. One example. Even with lingering Democrat racist policies, Black families income rise more quickly before the 1960s than after. (Source: Economist Dr. Thomas Sowell.)
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movielover said:

bear2034 said:



Voting for Eric Adams to stop Mamdani.
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Anarchistbear said:

Cal88 said:

Mamdani is a classic coastal liberal, grew up in NYC, went to Bowdoin, father is a Columbia prof and mother is a famous film director (Mississippi Masala, Salaam Bombay, Ameila,...) He can relate to his constituency.
And yet the stupid Sharia memes persist

Agreed. The Communist ones hit harder.
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bear2034 said:

Anarchistbear said:

Cal88 said:

Mamdani is a classic coastal liberal, grew up in NYC, went to Bowdoin, father is a Columbia prof and mother is a famous film director (Mississippi Masala, Salaam Bombay, Ameila,...) He can relate to his constituency.
And yet the stupid Sharia memes persist

Agreed. The Communist ones hit harder.


The irony is that it is Adams who has been indicted for bribes from foreign governments.

Quote:

What are the charges against Eric Adams?
The charges center on Adams's mayoral campaigns. They allege that he knowingly accepted illegal donations facilitated by a Turkish government official, and favors like luxury plane tickets as part of a quid pro quo relationship with the country. Together, they paint a picture of a foreign government official cultivating a prominent US politician over a period of years. The charges are:
Conspiracy to commit wire fraud, solicit foreign contributions, and accept bribes (1 count): Adams is accused of setting up an illicit system to accept foreign donations as part of his mayoral campaigns, of accepting multiple plane tickets and luxury travel perks from a Turkish government official and Turkish businesspeople, and of helping a Turkish consulate building in New York City circumvent regulatory requirements in return.
Wire fraud (1 count): Certain campaign donations in New York City can be matched with public funds to help encourage candidates to seek small-dollar donations. The indictment alleges that Adams fraudulently solicited matching funds for donations that he knew were from "straw donors," or donors used to funnel money from another source. He's accused of using straw donors in both his 2021 and 2025 campaigns, and of securing $10 million in public matching funds in this way.
Solicitation of a contribution by a foreign national (2 counts): US political candidates are barred from accepting donations from foreign citizens, something Adams is accused of knowingly doing by taking money from Turkish nationals.
Bribery (1 count): This charge is also related to Adams's alleged exchange of certain travel benefits, like expensive plane tickets, for relaxing the regulatory requirements faced by a new Turkish consulate building. The building had yet to pass a fire safety screening ahead of a visit by Turkey's president, and Adams reportedly pressured a Fire Department official to obtain expedited approval. The perks he received are alleged to have been valued at around $100,000.
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bear2034 said:



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Adams is a bag man for the Turks
Cuomo, Schumer and Jeffries are bag men for the Jews

Democrats finally found someone who can connect with young men. Problem is he's not corrupt enough and actually wants to help them
movielover
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Wants to defund the police and levy $10 Billion in new taxes on businesses w no facilities in NYC?
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bearister said:


RFK,Jr., pictured here as he senses the last trace elements of his dignity and self respect exiting his body to free up storage for self loathing.

Sometimes you just have to suck it up and take one for the team. I'm sure the Big Mac was delicious.
Cal88
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How about an $8 shawarma plate instead?
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Cal88 said:

How about an $8 shawarma plate instead?
Mixed plate shawarma...mmmm...I could it eat it every day.
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Is this real? If so, why am I getting Zelensky CIA asset vibes?
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bear2034 said:


Is this real? If so, why am I getting Zelensky CIA asset vibes?

His mother is a pretty famous film director, Mira Nair (Mississippi Masala, Salaam Bombay, Kama Sutra etc), and his wife is an artist. More Brooklyn hipster than Davos plant.
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I don't think it was ever a secret that Mamdani tried his hand at a musical career before.
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sycasey said:

I don't think it was ever a secret that Mamdani tried his hand at a musical career before.
And it's a little thing to criticize him for a wacky entertainment background given our current President and his stint on tv
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It's Reaganesque
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Anarchistbear said:

Adams is a bag man for the Turks
Cuomo, Schumer and Jeffries are bag men for the Jews

Democrats finally found someone who can connect with young men. Problem is he's not corrupt enough and actually wants to help them

I admire the way you never pull punches. A lot of people feel this way about Trump, too, with the main difference between you two is that he's full of s***.
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Big C said:

Anarchistbear said:

Adams is a bag man for the Turks
Cuomo, Schumer and Jeffries are bag men for the Jews

Democrats finally found someone who can connect with young men. Problem is he's not corrupt enough and actually wants to help them

I admire the way you never pull punches. A lot of people feel this way about Trump, too, with the main difference between you two is that he's full of s***.


A 'full of s***' President who:

- has promoted two peace deals / cease fire
- 60-year-best wage growth
- tariff revenue jump
- $10 Trillion in new investments
- closed the border tight
- homicides down
- etc
Big C
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movielover said:

Big C said:

Anarchistbear said:

Adams is a bag man for the Turks
Cuomo, Schumer and Jeffries are bag men for the Jews

Democrats finally found someone who can connect with young men. Problem is he's not corrupt enough and actually wants to help them

I admire the way you never pull punches. A lot of people feel this way about Trump, too, with the main difference between you two is that he's full of s***.


A 'full of s***' President who:

- has promoted two peace deals / cease fire
- 60-year-best wage growth
- tariff revenue jump
- $10 Trillion in new investments
- closed the border tight
- homicides down
- etc

If whatever he does ends up being successful, I am happy to give him his due for that. But in the meantime, some of the main reasons I think he is full of s*** are his hateful rhetoric and the way he uses his office to enrich himself.
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bear2034
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I may be wrong but Zohran Mamdani will get his 15 minutes of fame but will flame out as quickly as he entered the scene. He has a history as a politician and is carrying way too much baggage around.
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bear2034 said:


I may be wrong but Zohran Mamdani will get his 15 minutes of fame but will flame out as quickly as he entered the scene. He has a history as a politician and is carrying way too much baggage around.
I don't agree with him using "white neighborhoods" as part of his political framing, but my understanding is that if you actually look at the policy proposal it is about raising taxes on the areas with higher property values and is not broken out by race.
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sycasey said:

bear2034 said:


I may be wrong but Zohran Mamdani will get his 15 minutes of fame but will flame out as quickly as he entered the scene. He has a history as a politician and is carrying way too much baggage around.
I don't agree with him using "white neighborhoods" as part of his political framing, but my understanding is that if you actually look at the policy proposal it is about raising taxes on the areas with higher property values and is not broken out by race.

Mamdami is probably going to lose against Adams, those types of smear campaign usually work. Adams is going to have a huge campaign budget, it might end up approaching the all-time mayoral campaign record or over $100 million by Bloomberg. Cuomo burned $24 million in his failed Democrat bid for mayor.
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Isn't Mamdami the perfect candidate to receive big donor money? A Democrat running for mayor in a large blue city?
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bear2034 said:

Isn't Mamdami the perfect candidate to receive big donor money? A Democrat running for mayor in a large blue city?


USAID was defunded. Democrats are scrambling to fundraise without stealing taxpayer money.
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oski003 said:

bear2034 said:

Isn't Mamdami the perfect candidate to receive big donor money? A Democrat running for mayor in a large blue city?

USAID was defunded. Democrats are scrambling to fundraise without stealing taxpayer money.

Awesome. Hopefully, George Soros and his kind will experience difficulty finding a way to support his campaign.
 
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